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hello and good afternoon specifically to the anon who mentioned glow squid dream, red panda sapnap, and coral george

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okay i donât know what finally made dream snap but i am so proud of him! he removed the dream stan supremacy from his alt twitter bio, he posted an up to date version of his boundaries that talked about everything from shipping to racism, heâs learned to correct stans firmly when theyâre out of line through dmâs instead of replying to tweets directly (sucks he has to do that in the first place though - mcyttwt my beloathed), he unfollowed a toxic stan, he deactivated his private twitter and has barely been on twitter except for his fanart account that doesnât follow âstan accountsâ per say, and that we know brings him joy. i donât know if he hired pr or has just decided to make a change, but either way i am so happy for him because it looks like heâs cutting a lot of negativity out of his life, and in doing so has also addressed a lot of the problems within his community. bravo.
i canât stop thinking about how dream didnât just immediately write the letter to techno. he had been tortured for over sixty days at that point, even if he thought quackity was lying, wouldnât it be worth the risk?Â
why wouldnât he take that chance? he says he cares about no one, that he has no attachments, so even if quackity was lying, why would he care?
i canât stop thinking about it, not because thereâs the implication that dream either cares about techno or still clings to the hope he can use the favor to get him out.
but because heâs been in that jail for over a hundred days, tortured for over sixty and he still said no at first. because even after calling quackity âsirâ, even while cowering in the corner, he still looked at the person torturing him and shouted, âyou like it! you like torturing me!â
i canât stop thinking about it because quackity is good at what he does, he knows all the right places to poke and prod and heâs had over sixty days and he still hasnât broken dream.
if there's one thing i know abt quackity, that man thrives off of spite. everyone thinks the green guardians are gonna lose bc of him and he's gonna prove them all wrong on saturday.

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quackity's gonna ask fundy if he has any fiances and fundys gonna burst into tears /dsmp /rp
w what if quackity makes foolish burn down kinoko kingdom??? to prove his loyalty to las nevadas?? /dsmp /rp
its always interesting when i see posts that r like âand this is why c!dream isnât a sympathetic villain while c!wilbur and c!quackity are sympatheticâ
bc i dont know how to tell u thisâŚ. but the only reason we think of them as sympathetic villains is bc weâve always gotten their pov.
we saw wilburâs pov of lâmanberg. we saw his pov of the elections, we saw his pov of the festival and him losing it. THEREâS VODS OF THAT SHIT.
same w quackity. we saw his pov of swag vs pog. we saw his pov of the schlatt administration. we saw his pov of the war, and we saw his pov of feeling abandoned by kinoko kingdom. we sympathize w them, bc we understand why they act the way they do. we understand why theyâre villains.
that does not apply to dream. we know next to nothing abt him. weâve NEVER seen his perspective of any event on the smp, and not only that we will usually see dream through the eyes of people who fucking HATE him (tommy, tubbo, ranboo, sam, etc)
so it isnât that any of them are sympathetic or not. its that we are meant to understand and see wilbur and quackityâs character arcs develop, but we arenât meant to see dreamâs.
well ⌠yeah?
that should honestly be the whole point of any post that decides whether or not a villain is sympathetic: how much weâve been ALLOWED to sympathize with them. We havenât been ALLOWED to sympathize to sympathize with c!dream because the storytellers donât want to give us the opportunity.
Something that iâve noticed is that people who believe c!wilbur can change and become better are the people who watched his POV. whereas those who started watching after Nov 16, who only ever saw him through othersâ eyes are more likely to view him as an irredeemable big bad.
so yeah, the only reason less people sympathize with c!dream is because we donât se his POV. But⌠thatâs the whole point?
well yes, thats what iâm saying!! this post was more in response to the idea that dream is irredeemable or unsympathetic bc hes a bad villain, when thats just not true.
he seems unsympathetic bc we donât know how he thinks, unlike c!quackity and c!wilbur :]]
hi there! I'm v anxious so I'm on anon, but I wanted 2 mention something abt ur post abt how gettin a character's pov means they're more easily viewed as a sympathetic villain. while I will say right away that I hate him as a content creator, I am v fascinated by c!Schlatt, n tho we never get his pov, it's easier for me to see him as a sympathetic villain. so do you think it's just pov, or do u think the clues we get from other povs despite the relations between characters have an effect?
this is a very good question and i think it can very much depend.
i think there's several things that can affect how sympathetic you interpret a character.
-pov
-how others view the character
-personal biases
i will be the first to admit that the main reason i like c!dream so much is bc i love cc!dream. he's my favorite content creator so i tend to be more attached tp his character even if he is a villain.
with c!schlatt i think its a matter of generally not knowing ANYTHING about him. we might not get dream's pov but we still know quite a bit about him. we know a bit of his past, and although we might not know EVERYTHING we still have a general idea abt his character.
c!schlatt on the other hand is an enigma. its easier to headcanon and sympathize w him when we don't know anything for sure abt him
its always interesting when i see posts that r like âand this is why c!dream isnât a sympathetic villain while c!wilbur and c!quackity are sympatheticâ
bc i dont know how to tell u this.... but the only reason we think of them as sympathetic villains is bc weâve always gotten their pov.
we saw wilburâs pov of lâmanberg. we saw his pov of the elections, we saw his pov of the festival and him losing it. THEREâS VODS OF THAT SHIT.
same w quackity. we saw his pov of swag vs pog. we saw his pov of the schlatt administration. we saw his pov of the war, and we saw his pov of feeling abandoned by kinoko kingdom. we sympathize w them, bc we understand why they act the way they do. we understand why they're villains.
that does not apply to dream. we know next to nothing abt him. weâve NEVER seen his perspective of any event on the smp, and not only that we will usually see dream through the eyes of people who fucking HATE him (tommy, tubbo, ranboo, sam, etc)
so it isn't that any of them are sympathetic or not. its that we are meant to understand and see wilbur and quackityâs character arcs develop, but we arenât meant to see dreamâs.

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mama puffy and her duckling!!
real talk tho i would KILL to know what dreams childhood was like
something something c!quackityâs torture of c!dream is a power trip. c!quackity has no actual power, but having c!dream underneath him? that makes him feel powerful and important
Pls change your quackity tag to c! because THERE SHOULDNâT BE NONE OF THIS IN THE CC! main tag .TY :]
AH SORRY I DONT USUALLY TAG HIM BUT TY FOR TELLING ME!!
something something c!quackityâs torture of c!dream is a power trip. c!quackity has no actual power, but having c!dream underneath him? that makes him feel powerful and important
confrontation
(based on @kingjem âs post on this!!)
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YOOOOOOOO
your halbarry dream and george is just *chefs kiss* & PLEASE I NEED to know your justice league dsmp au... you have somehow combined my two favorite things on this planet and I am OBSESSED
these r vague roles that i still wanna expand upon but......
-dream: hal jordan
-george: barry allen
-sapnap: oliver queen
-badboyhalo: superman
-wilbur: the joker
-tommyinnit: damian wayne
-tubbo: jonathan kent
-ranboo: kyle rayner
-foolish: aquaman
-puffy: diana prince
-technoblade: batman

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i think the question is less of. does c!dream deserve redmeption and more so, does c!dream even want redemption?
FREE C!DREAM!!!!! HE'S A FUCKED UP LITTLE MAN AND I WANT HIM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!