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Zoosadism is not the same as animal abuse. Zoosadism is a feeling of attraction towards animals in pain, not an act.

In a small survey of members of online zoosad community, most zoosadists said they have a species preference, have nonsadistic feelings towards animals, and consider their zoosadism to be a type of zoophilia. None of these people expressed support for animal abuse.

According to another survey, about 10% of members of general paraphilia spaces are zoosadists.

Yet zoosadism remains one of the most stigmatized paraphilias even within the para community. Partially it is the fault of zoo exclusionists - zoophiles who support a very narrow and restrictive definition of zoophilia. Many zoosadists online have been harassed and hated despite never abusing animals and not planning to.

This article on zoosadism basically repeats what I already said, but in a slightly longer way.

This is the anti contact zoosadist flag

Genuinely fuck you if you're still spreading that bullshit that plurals can't be happy and that being plural has to be all misery all the time or else you're faking!!!

I always am in awe sysmeds saying stuff like "everyone who thinks the opposite doesn't know how science works"

Because this list of people always includes those like Dr. Eric Yarbrough, author of Transgender Mental Health, who wrote this...

It includes the editors and reviewers at the American Psychiatric Association who published the book!

It includes Dr. Colin Ross, the single most prolific author on DID who has dedicated his life to treating trauma victims, and said this in an email discussing nontraumagenic multiplicity.

It includes people like Dr. Michael Lifshitz, a psychiatry professor at McGill University who has studied tulpamancy and reported seeing changes under an fMRI during switching.

And people who are neutral on it?

I mean, even the creators of the theory of structural dissociation have talked about how it may be possible for self-conscious dissociative parts of the personality to to form without trauma.

In fact, all the way back in 2001, dissociative identity expert Richard Kluft briefly discussed the possibility that there could be "nonpathological endogenous forms of dissociative identity disorder" that didn't require trauma.

That was a full 12 years before the term "endogenic" was coined!

And this is what gets me about these sysmeds!

There is a massive list of doctors who have affirmed the existence of endogenic plurality in various words! There are others like Kluft who have discussed the possibility but appear more neutral...

There are NONE that are anti-endo.

There is not one single doctor you can find saying "no, there's actually no way for multiple self-conscious dissociative parts/personality states/whatever-synonym-you-want-to-use to form without DID and without trauma."

For as much as sysmeds love to scream that anyone who supports endogenic systems or are even neutral on endogenic systems is supporting "pseudoscience," there are no sysmed doctors!

At least, not actual researchers writing papers. Clinicians are another story. NB4 the "but my therapist said..."

Like... do I need to explain for @anti-willo-ren that "author" is just a term for anyone who writes a book.

It's not that being "an author" makes him a reputable source.

Being a renowned psychiatrist, a Disguised Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association, the highest honor the American Psychiatric Association gives, does that. And the fact that said book was peer reviewed and published by the American Psychiatric Association does that.

But gods, I feel like I'm wasting my breath here.

It's honestly a coin flip whether or not a given sysmed even knows what the American Psychiatric Association is.

I always am in awe sysmeds saying stuff like "everyone who thinks the opposite doesn't know how science works"

Because this list of people always includes those like Dr. Eric Yarbrough, author of Transgender Mental Health, who wrote this...

It includes the editors and reviewers at the American Psychiatric Association who published the book!

It includes Dr. Colin Ross, the single most prolific author on DID who has dedicated his life to treating trauma victims, and said this in an email discussing nontraumagenic multiplicity.

It includes people like Dr. Michael Lifshitz, a psychiatry professor at McGill University who has studied tulpamancy and reported seeing changes under an fMRI during switching.

And people who are neutral on it?

I mean, even the creators of the theory of structural dissociation have talked about how it may be possible for self-conscious dissociative parts of the personality to to form without trauma.

In fact, all the way back in 2001, dissociative identity expert Richard Kluft briefly discussed the possibility that there could be "nonpathological endogenous forms of dissociative identity disorder" that didn't require trauma.

That was a full 12 years before the term "endogenic" was coined!

And this is what gets me about these sysmeds!

There is a massive list of doctors who have affirmed the existence of endogenic plurality in various words! There are others like Kluft who have discussed the possibility but appear more neutral...

There are NONE that are anti-endo.

There is not one single doctor you can find saying "no, there's actually no way for multiple self-conscious dissociative parts/personality states/whatever-synonym-you-want-to-use to form without DID and without trauma."

For as much as sysmeds love to scream that anyone who supports endogenic systems or are even neutral on endogenic systems is supporting "pseudoscience," there are no sysmed doctors!

At least, not actual researchers writing papers. Clinicians are another story. NB4 the "but my therapist said..."

Any of your friends or family members could be part of a system. Any of your classmates or coworkers could, too. Even your partner could be a system.

Plural systems usually do not announce our plurality. Because of the massive stigma around plurality, we try to pass as singlets. My system does this every day. My headmates have friends they've known for a decade who don't know we're plural.

It's said that dissociative disorders are very rare, but they're not. Trauma can and does happen to anyone. And many systems don't have dissociative disorders at all.