Jadentoontime

i do think Eram is deliberately evil. I entertained the idea for a while of them not being able to tell right from wrong- but I don't think that's the case. they purposefully give hints on how to start the Weird Route, mock and provoke Kris, and (obviously) fight them. (Although they do help Kris indirectly by providing them the Mantle... so maybe not?)

and that's not even to mention the theories we could get into from the latest dialogue update. for all we know, Eram could have been the one distributing Shadow Crystals, and it seems highly likely they're the leader of the "hunting pack" of FRIENDs.

personally, I don't think Eram will be redeemable, even though Toby doesn't usually write truly irredeemable villains. I predict they'll be treated kind of like the Titan (just a consciously evil being, instead of one that's "evil by nature"), and that the Fun Gang is going to have to purify/banish them.

but that's just speculation!

(they inspired me to write a long-ass answer, so i sent it to them - but i also think it's worthy of being published as a post - i also posted in on twitter: https://x.com/opisthethe/status/2078243967632544063)

The thing with the titans is that they are not sentient - and this is what defines them. They are "evil" because they are not sentient and are fear of darkness taking a physical form. Fear is often not a rational emotion - you are afraid largely when you seem to rationally process something, one needs to overcome it by processing it properly. So "evil" here is the lack of sentience. Friends are also "not smart", btw. Not the thing with Eram.

They do give the mantle, which they kidnapped themself, and drop candies to make it obtainable. So they help to overcome the challenges they themself create and then progress. In the game, they seem to want Kris or the player (or both) to overcome these challenges - "This is what I wanted to see."

About the "Weird Route" and hints to it. First, the game presents it in Ch. 3 - 4 years after the players discovered it. So as a hint it's kinda useless. Yes, Toby wanted to place it in Ch. 2, yet, he didn't - he decided not to.

Secondly, the game presents the "Weird Route" in a creepy way and as something morally repudiable ("Is it fun, Kris? Playing around like this…") and painful - killing your friends and engaging in a hard fight. Eram clearly has devil-like appearance [like Tenna and some other characters], but a devil figure would "tempt" the player to do it - and so present it in attractive way. Eram doesn't.

Instead, Kris and the player are outright threatened with the loss of agency. And (contrary to what some people say?), the "Weird Route" seems to be largely about the loss of agency, pushing until ceasing to be able to control it (even for the player!) - opposite to freedom. The one narrating the mantle game, seemingly Eram, is honest about it - "She was used up. YOU WERE USED UP." "Thank you" - for carrying out someone else's will while depriving yourself of your own, doing the dirty work - like everything else said by them, it sounds sarcastic, even the "hard work" - mindlessly killing everything around. Mindlessly…

Cashing this in while I still have the chance to (also sorry for the low quality)

Could you please draw the King of Diamonds? My fav underrated character from Deltarune, my lovely pathetic wet snake :]

if yr stilll doing this can you draw the orange flower from deltarune smokin a fat doink thanks

Mentors in Deltarune are either a dead old man or an anime twink trying to fuck your dad

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