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Hi! Mind doing a reading on how H's CAN team feels about C? I have the feeling they're not very fond of him or his relation to H... I mean his manager and PR person tkss
hi babe! well.. this reading is kind of revealing...
h’s canadian team × c — dynamics reading
how does h’s manager genuinely feel about c?
the hanged man + two of cups
h’s manager seems to recognize that c and h share a genuine and meaningful bond. the two of cups is difficult to interpret as simple professional proximity: it represents mutual affection, emotional reciprocity, and a relationship that matters to both people.
however, the hanged man suggests that the manager may feel uncertain about what to do with this connection. they could perceive it as something that places h in a complicated position, requires sacrifices, or forces professional plans to remain suspended. this does not look like personal dislike toward c. it looks more like recognition of the bond combined with discomfort about the circumstances surrounding it.
how does h’s pr person genuinely feel about c?
four of cups + strength reversed
the pr person’s attitude appears considerably less positive. the four of cups suggests dissatisfaction, emotional disengagement, or reluctance to embrace what c represents. strength reversed adds insecurity and a sense that this connection is difficult to control.
they may feel that h behaves differently around c or becomes less willing to follow the expected strategy. c could represent an emotional influence over h that the pr person cannot easily manage. their discomfort therefore seems connected not only to c personally, but to the loss of control they may associate with his presence.
how do they view c’s influence on h?
eight of cups reversed + five of swords reversed
they appear to believe that c prevents h from completely walking away from something emotionally significant. the eight of cups reversed shows a bond that h repeatedly returns to or cannot leave behind, even when circumstances make it complicated.
the five of swords reversed suggests that c may also influence h toward reconciliation, ending conflicts, or reconsidering decisions made under pressure. they could see c as someone who makes h question whether certain professional battles, narratives, or sacrifices are truly worthwhile. this influence is not inherently negative, but it may interfere with the direction his team wants him to follow.
how do they feel about h and c’s relationship?
page of cups reversed + the star reversed
they do not appear optimistic about the relationship, at least within its present circumstances. the page of cups reversed suggests that they may perceive it as emotionally complicated, vulnerable, difficult to communicate openly, or capable of creating immature reactions and disappointment.
the star reversed shows a lack of faith in its future or discomfort with the hopes attached to it. they may believe that the relationship creates unrealistic expectations, exposes h to disappointment, or conflicts with the public trajectory they envision for him. this does not necessarily mean they think the feelings are false. the manager’s two of cups strongly suggests the opposite. their concern seems to be whether the relationship can function without disrupting professional plans.
have they tried to influence how h handles his relationship with c?
ace of pentacles reversed + the devil + ace of cups reversed
yes, these cards strongly suggest pressure or attempted influence. the ace of pentacles reversed points to professional opportunities, money, contracts, or career stability being used as reasons for caution. the devil introduces control, restrictive expectations, unhealthy pressure, and obligations that are difficult to escape. the ace of cups reversed then shows emotional suppression: feelings being contained, redirected, or prevented from being expressed naturally.
this combination could indicate that h has been encouraged to prioritize material and professional considerations while keeping the emotional reality of the relationship private or restrained. it does not necessarily mean they explicitly demanded that he end it, but it strongly suggests attempts to control how much space the relationship occupies in his decisions and public life.
overall message
the reading does not show the entire canadian team simply disliking c. h’s manager appears to recognize that the connection is real and mutual, although they may see it as professionally complicated. the pr person seems more resistant, insecure, and uncomfortable with how difficult the connection is to control.
their principal issue appears to be c’s influence over h and the possibility that his emotional attachment to c could make him resist professional expectations. the cards suggest that the team has tried to contain the relationship’s impact, particularly through practical concerns, restrictive obligations, and emotional suppression.
the central dynamic is:
recognition of the bond → professional discomfort → fear of losing control → pressure to contain its expression
Since there’s a lot of discussion now on “Are HC an actual couple?” i’ll offer this.
Believe whatever you want, whatever makes sense to you! I have my thoughts, you can have yours. However.
It doesn’t matter.
They have romantic feelings for each other. They prioritize each other. They are building long-term plans together. They do talk all the time. They kiss, they (redacted), they move and look like a couple every time anyone has seen them existing in the same space.
So once again.. the label genuinely does not matter. They might have labels in place, they might not yet! Whatever they feel good about is fine!
They have chosen each other. They will continue to choose each other.
The rest is just noise. Honestly. The love is everything ❣️
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oh holls….yet another live from bridgerton fandom’s least favourite tarot reader 😵💫
I’m actually posting this as a PSA…
if you still follow Ang*, I advise you to cease doing so. Apart from her usual HK nonsense, her opinion towards our Hudson is increasingly nasty, under the guise of “I love him, so I can say what I want.” Calling him a “dumb fuck,” calling him immature, conflicted, acting like he’s a pathetic puppy crawling back to K.. implying that he’s wronging Connor by playing games…
It is frankly appalling, and I find it cowardly that she’s hiding these gossip girl opinions behind the fucking lives, because she won’t dare post it on main.
anyway fuck her, sorry. I won’t be taking messages about this either.
Saw these pics on threads and someone asking if they are wearing the same top. (Connor has a loose tshirt over the top of it but looks v similar 👀 the ribbed fabric and the cuffs)
Have we seen this clothes-sharing evidence before?
Oh my goddd I do think they look verrry similar if not identical🥹🥹🥹
Mind you both of these pics were taken during their honeymoon in LA in December. So 100% yes one of them could have absolutely mindlessly grabbed the top from the floor after it being thrown there for Reasons and worn it without thinking anyone would clock it😇
I honestly wanted to add my quick thoughts to this as well, because… holy unprofessional work, Batman! This is our trusted source? 😂
But it works well enough to promote the influencer- I mean, the gf’s name and image out there. I hope it’s part of her agreement to finally take her cake and go home. If she’s feeling left behind by her suddenly famous ex bf, it tracks 100% that her brand must be established before she exits stage left.
Lots of jokes still circling about Unperceived. I genuinely believe Hudson was telling the truth when he said that though - The truth as he knew it then. Clearly her goals (and the team’s guidance, since Minimally Perceived GF did nothing to distract from Hudcon) have changed since then.
The nightmare circus continues, but I think they’re struggling to pay the power bill.
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Don't you ever think you've over-idealized their relationship? These last few days are making me realize that maybe we're wrong, that maybe they really are two "friends" who talk to each other from time to time and that, when they manage to see each other and because they're in the same place, maybe they do it without expecting anything from this friendship! I don't know, but the last 72 hours are really making me consider so many new scenarios that I never would have thought of, as much as I want the exact opposite, I'm a bit of a crisis, every time it seems like we're at a turning point and bam we get an even bigger blow.
This is honestly making me think the exact opposite.
Let me start by talking about the circus duo.
To be honest, when The Insta Doom Drop dumped, I was pretty surprised. Even as a season card holder of the circus, that was a new act! I dusted off some older theories to start examining them, in case I’d missed anything. And if you saw my first post when that happened, there was some confusion and open questioning you don’t normally see from me.
But then his team got to Greece and staged a performance I know very well. The goddamn beach pap photos.
So now I’m right back to, Alright, they are desperate to prove this. Beyond the shadow of a doubt, they are pushing really hard to make sure we know this man “loves” his gf. It is a play often ran to reinforce a couple that isn’t being taken seriously, or to clear doubts surrounding a queer celebrity.
You don’t just organically “oops I got papped in these high quality photos at this beach!” So yeah that’s ringing the alarm. That’s tripping the BS sensor big time - and you can see those shockwaves running through twt and other spaces, because even the GP knows this play.
So we get it, they’re scared of something. You know what that could be, right? We know.
Streets are speculating that he’s trying to land a big role. I don’t know. Maybe! But he’s also about to be locked down with his partner a hot man he has electric chemistry with, back to working on a queer production. From there they will inevitably do a promo tour, where the GP will bear witness to their chemistry, and ask the same “are they an item?” questions they did before.
Except now his team can point to, But didn’t you see him in love with his gf? Even if they are “broken up” by then. Regardless of whether or not Hudson feels compelled to tip toe more out of the closet (I suspect he will), we have “evidence” that he “likes girls”.
Even if he gets caught pursuing a certain man. That’s especially important if he does, because being a bi heart throb is a much, much easier career path than oh he’s just gay?
So regardless of what HK is doing, and regardless of what Hudson’s sexuality is (and I am taking notes 📝), this is a message that helps protect him from future issues that will come from being queer and being true to himself.
I don’t buy that his team is pushing Straightson. Not with those club appearances, and not with the way they’ve allowed him to behave. They are specifically pushing “he does like girls,” which feels different.
And to close on HC…
I am a strict believer in the 2-3 week meet-up timeline. I believe full well that they’ve had plenty of secret dates. To put that bluntly they kiss, they share clothes, etc. I believe they do talk all the time. I notice how effortlessly they bring up each other. I notice how they glow with love around each other.
I think it’s intentional that they haven’t been allowed to be near each other in public for months. It is almost laughable when you track how seriously that rule was implemented. I think their teams want us to temporarily forget how they act when they’re together. Don’t take the bait.
Keep calm and carry on, this will all be water under the bridge later.
disclaimer: these interpretations are intentionally kept brief and are not meant to be exhaustive, nor should they be taken as reflections of reality! they're intended primarily as a starting point for discussion with my fellow tarot readers. if you're one of them, i'd love to hear your thoughts, interpretations, and the cards you've drawn please! (∩˃o˂∩)♡
major personal themes in H’s life surrounding the holiday vacation; what led up to it, motivated it, and continues to shape it:
detachment, independence, authority
quarrel, order, speculation
status, drama, revenge
h: two of pentacles reversed, queen of pentacles, page of cups — overwhelmed but trying to appear grounded. shadow: juggling people or priorities, seeking comfort while avoiding full responsibility, emotionally immature sincerity.
clarified by; manipulation and control. king of pentacles, two of wands — wants stability and control over the direction things take. shadow: strategic planning, possessiveness over his image, his potential and his relationships; could be attempts to control the narrative or “image” of the relationship itself. playing the role of the “good, responsible guy” while quietly avoiding difficult choices? band-aid over a gunshot wound — reassurance rather than genuine healing attempts/emotional growth; making decisions based on reputation or long-term benefit rather than real feelings
vacation: ace of pentacles, eight of cups reversed, knight of wands — opportunity for a fresh experience, but someone may be struggling to fully “commit” before acting impulsively. shadow: returning to unfinished business, or filled with inconsistent. hot-and-cold energy; chasing excitement over consistency. using the trip as a distraction or reset button instead of addressing the real problem?
clarified by; risk and extremism (lol). page of pentacles and wands — a new beginning requires practical effort but there’s too much impulsive, high-risk energy. shadow: naïve risk-taking, rushing into something before it’s fully developed or fully thought through. impulsively trying to “fix” something that can’t be fixed by changing the scenery, hoping it’ll all work out despite obvious warning signs
relationship with k: ace of wands reversed, ten of cups, eight of swords — strong emotional potential existed, but it’s blocked by fear, aggression or overthinking, with themes of self-entrapment. shadow: idealizing the connection while feeling trapped or self-limiting. could the relationship—or even the potential of the relationship—have become something he idealized? alternatively, he could feel trapped by what the relationship is supposed to be: trying to force a happily-ever-after that never developed naturally. fear of ending it because too much has already been invested?
clarified by; protection and defense. eight of wands, ace of cups reversed — fast communication or movement clashes with emotional withholding. shadow: defensive reactions, mixed signals, avoiding—or feeling the need to defend against—emotional connection and vulnerability. the same hot-and-cold dynamic from the vacation spread? note: assertiveness/aggression as a theme again
bottom of the deck; five of cups — lingering regret, disappointment, or focus on what has been lost; mourning something that’s already over while pretending it isn’t. shadow: difficulty letting go of past mistakes or missed opportunities (lol)
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h and c: knight of swords reversed, three of pentacles, ten of swords reversed — tension or miscommunication exists, but there is still an effort to cooperate and recover from past conflict. shadow: passive aggression, healing that isn’t fully complete. polite on the surface, avoiding difficult conversations to keep the peace
clarified by; companionship and devotion. three of cups reversed, king of cups reversed — emotional imbalance or social tension affects the connection. shadow: gossip, exclusion, emotional manipulation, hidden resentment beneath outward loyalty. third-party could be influencing the emotional tone, resulting in some resentment (heavy implication: two 3’s)
c: page of swords, the magician reversed, justice — curious and observant, but something feels off; suspects more than he’s saying or "piecing" together inconsistencies. accountability ultimately matters. could be waiting for someone to expose themselves rather than confronting them directly, especially with the magician reversed; he thinks the truth will reveal itself eventually?
clarified by; loss and intuition. five of swords, ten of wands — defeat; a sense of having "lost" a battle again (ego clash with horse, again. lol). exhausted from constantly trying to understand everyone's motives. justice paired with intuition could suggest he feels whatever is behind that "off" feeling—or whatever caused the "loss"—will eventually come to light. alternatively, he may already intuitively know the answer but feels burdened by not being able to prove it, leaving him to carry the weight of suspicion without any real "closure"
what he thinks about the vacation: six of pentacles reversed, king of wands, six of cups — believes nostalgia is clouding judgment, resulting in unequal expectations and romanticizing old dynamics. may think someone is putting in more effort than the other, and that someone keeps returning to what’s familiar instead of what’s healthy
clarified by; inheritance, patience and drama; the moon, the lovers — he may believe emotions and relationships play a significant role, though much remains uncertain or hidden to him. or, more lol: he believes not everything about the trip was genuine; h is choosing the relationship because it's easier than confronting change. he may think appearances or preserving the relationship mattered more than the relationship itself, or wonder whether it's built more on history, familiarity, and obligation than genuine compatibility. similarly, he could see the trip itself as a choice made to project an image, maintain an illusion, or quiet ongoing drama rather than address the underlying issues. "patience" could also reflect his perspective—that he sees the relationship as a long, deeply entangled situation with years of history and recurring drama. tied to justice, he may believe time will eventually expose what's real, making waiting and observing more effective than intervening. there may even be an underlying assumption that the truth—or the consequences of everyone's choices—will reveal themselves without him having to force anything (lol)
the moon and the lovers clarified by six of swords reversed and influence — someone "won" him over, but he believes the same unresolved patterns keep repeating, just in different settings. could see the vacation as an attempt to postpone an inevitable decision rather than resolve anything. again: may believe outside opinions, pressure, or emotional influence are contributing to the setbacks, making it difficult for either person to move forward independently. there may be a sense that choices aren't being made entirely from the heart, but are shaped by history, guilt, obligation, comfort, or the need to preserve the relationship. the moon especially could suggest he thinks there's more happening beneath the surface than what either person is willing to admit—illusions, pretenses, avoidance—leaving everyone emotionally stuck in the same cycle. he may see the vacation less as a fresh start and more as another chapter in an already familiar pattern: distance followed by reconciliation, uncertainty followed by reassurance, only for the same issues to quietly resurface. six of swords reversed could also suggest he doesn't believe either person has truly moved on from whatever keeps pulling them back together. "influence" makes it feel as though the relationship is steering the decisions, rather than the people in it. from his perspective, there may always be something or someone pulling h back before he fully commits to moving forward. so in the most dramatic reading (lol), he may think the vacation wasn't really about the vacation at all, but about stabilizing the relationship, repairing appearances, or delaying an ending that still feels inevitable
bottom of the deck; eight of cups — a larger theme of walking away, emotional distance, or searching for something more meaningful. shadow: avoidance, emotional withdrawal, leaving before true resolution.
"defeat weighs heavily on him; a sense of having "lost" a battle again (ego clash with horse, again. lol). exhausted from constantly trying to understand everyone's motives."
how'd you read this and still deduce h's actions arent hurting him. like h constantly chooses her over him. is he just unaware of how it would affect c? or its not in his list of priorities? obv h cant make an informed decision if he doesnt even consider c would be affected.
ദ്ദി(˵ •̀ ᴗ - ˵ ) ✧ because c's individual spread doesn't really read as hurt, betrayed, or heartbroken. page of swords, the magician reversed, and justice aren't emotional turmoil cards; they're all practical and analytical in nature. that doesn't mean he has no emotions about the situation, but if there are deeper negative feelings, his cards don't suggest he's being ruled by them. again: h is a very contained facet of c's life, not his entire life. c also comes across as someone who's very intelligent and pretty good at regulating his emotions, living his silly sword-driven life, not, like, a lovesick baby sitting around in a shitty diaper waiting for someone else to make him feel better. i trust his cards more than i trust h's lol
i did account for any emotional fallout between h and c in their combined spread: nothing dramatic, because there's nothing particularly dramatic happening between them in my reading, i guess? if i'm going to layer in more of my own personal interpretation, i also think c understands the situation too well to genuinely hold it against h. that feels much more in character for c than some super aggressive resentment toward someone who's been struggling with something that's shaped his entire life. if there's frustration, it seems directed more at the situation—and maybe h's choices within it—than at h as a person. to me, that's a lot more consistent with c's cards than reading them as someone consumed by hurt or heartbreak
tension or miscommunication exists, but there's still an effort to cooperate and recover from past conflict. shadow: passive aggression, healing that isn't fully complete, being polite on the surface while avoiding the difficult conversations to keep the peace
i've also touched on c's communication issues before—the ego battle comment is mostly a joke about one aspect of it. those ego battles are part of what makes him flip-flop in the first place, and i have said he's been working on it, but meh, again, healing isn't linear, and neither are people! i think i talked about it in last month's projection reading, and probably a few other posts. it was something along the lines of: h can't make an informed decision if he doesn't even consider that c would be affected, like you said. communication issues are a two-way street, even if this reading shows the most mild and polite version of them. because, really, how can someone know they're needed when you act like you don't need anyone at all?
but meh x2, i've personally been a subscriber of the micro-dosing theory for a while! to me, c could just be waiting for the right time to really wrangle him into shape for his own well-being, which fits justice pretty well
either way, my interpretations aren't meant to be exhaustive, and i invited more for a reason—i want more tarot interpretations! where are my tarot readers?
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I believe I've shared this post before, but below is the first post I ever made on my blog. It was at the height of the frenzy around C/F, and I was trying to make sense of everything.
I try to infuse a lot of humor into my musings and posts, but I spiral like anybody else, and it can get ugly. I just don't think that needs to be shared with y'all, because we all come here for fun. But trust me I've had my thoughts. However, let me share some of my more detailed thoughts as to how I view what's currently going on.
December: The minute Hudson and Connor started getting questions about their sexuality while doing press I knew this was going to be a shitshow. That's why I'll never forgive Jordan Firstman for stirring up that mess about Connor and Hudson's sexuality and then HBO Max sending Hudson to clean it up when it wasn't his fault in the first place. What happened as a result was Connor hanging out with Francois and his sister, that video being taken of them walking, DM posting it and doxxing K in conjunction with that TikTok leaker account and here we are in July still dealing with the fallout. I always felt that this constant obsession about who Hudson and Connor were "dating" was a backwards way of getting them to come out either way and just say if they were Gay or Straight. Which, by the way, even though we all speculate, neither has confirmed what they are so the desire to force them to speak on it has always been bullshit to me.
Hudson and K: How you view Hudson and K right now depends on how you viewed them back in December when she got doxxed and revealed as the "girlfriend that we all knew about." I've said this before, but I think it's important to be clear now. I have never even after Valentine's Day, and the Vanity Fair After Party thought that K was Hudson's girlfriend, that they are currently dating, or that they have ever dated in the past.
I don't believe they had an on/off relationship, or an open relationship. I don't believe any romantic feelings were ever there. That's why I draw the parallels so much to Connor and Bailey. Not because I think Hudson and K are close like that (I did think that before this current sideshow 🤡) but because people have allowed pictures to paint such a specific narrative of Hudson and K that the cognitive dissonance of them in person is like an atom bomb going off, because it just doesn't match up. I always thought it was weird that before he did the Valentine's Day IG story and before Hudson said the word girlfriend in the GRWM video, that people were so sure that she was his girlfriend. Circling back to Connor and Bailey, closeness and intimacy between a man and woman does not automatically equal a romantic relationship, and Hudson and K have even less chemistry than Connor and Bailey and we know they're just friends.
Because I believe they were never, nor are they currently a couple, albeit a toxic one, I'm not expecting them to "break up". I'm expecting for the charade to end. Whatever closeness was there prior to December is dead now in my opinion. I see two people who appear to have once been very close look like they have completely outgrown each other and are trying to fit themselves back into whatever they were before Hudson's fame and popularity, and it has been excruciating to watch.
K: Since you get called a misogynist no matter what you say, I'm going to say what I want. From what I've seen not what I know, I don't like her energy. She seems to smirk rather than smile in her public appearances with Hudson, and as I mentioned in previous posts there's only so many times, we can catch you in a bad mood or an off day. She gives me the ick. I don't think she ever was Hudson's girlfriend, I think she was Hudson's closest friend for a longtime and she was not able to handle him outgrowing her and his sudden fame taking him outside of the box they existed in back in Vancouver. I especially don't think she's ever been jazzed about Connor taking up the top spot in Hudson's life romantically, emotionally, and simply being a very good friend and confidant to Hudson.
He's Gay: I'm simply saying this to lead into this topic, but the reality is that there is a high likelihood that Hudson is Queer. Whether he's Gay or Bisexual, or unlabeled doesn't really matter because he's shown in words and actions that he does fall somewhere under that big Queer umbrella, that a lot of us find ourselves under as well in this Fandom. Some of my mutuals have spoken more eloquently than I have about this, but there is a reason why Hudson can't be more "out" right now. It has a lot to do with something I've mentioned before in regard to Hudson's sexuality, which is intersectionality.
Hudson is a Person of Color and possibly Queer. He's a Half-Asian man but perceived as Asian completely and that comes with its own set of stereotypes and expectations. Hudson wants I'm sure to have a long career in Hollywood, and while it's obvious based on his previous work before Heated Rivalry, that he appreciates Queer Art and making Queer Art, Hollywood is Hollywood, and how he navigates that and presents himself is own unfortunate problem to deal with. We should just send positive energy his way that he's able to navigate this better going forward, but this man just turned 25 and blew up overnight, this is not infantilize him but to extend him the grace that I think we should, no matter how much all of this upsets us, I'm sure suppressing himself upsets him more, but he probably feels he has to do this, possibly for a greater reward at the end.
Now, speaking of being Gay, that shit today? No offence but it made him look even more Gay. And now he's out partying not looking an ounce like the "straight boyfriend" persona we were being force fed a couple of hours ago. If there were natural attraction and closeness, even residual romantic feelings to tap into from a previous relationship between the two, then it would've been easy for him to tap into it today. The feelings are simply not there and I'm not surprised. Remember the last time we saw her with her "assets" on full display at the Vanity Fair Oscar Party, Hudson didn't look at her once like she was the "baddie" people claim she is. Rather he got downright giddy to see Connor with his chest out in a sheer shirt. Hudson's attraction leans male, and more specifically for one man.
Connor: This is a man who literally said that the moment he saw Hudson in the Chemistry Read that Hudson was his, and that he was his soulmate. This is also a man who had someone from his past, basically out him. Connor has been navigating that breach of trust ever since then, including having another costar insert himself into a false narrative about the two of them that further fractured Connor's trust. I believe that Connor and Hudson are going through everything together, not passively watching the other one be a part of a story they don't want. If they weren't doing this together, we would've seen them break by now. I'm not saying that any of this makes sense, just that I don't think Connor is sitting somewhere like Ilya scrolling through gossip sites and getting upset and blindsided about what he's seeing. Now, make no mistake I think Connor is upset, but not at Hudson or because he thinks any of this real, but he and Hudson are probably both frustrated to find themselves in this position in the first place.
Now let me close with this. In June after the umpteenth attempt to cancel Hudson, there was a distinct quietness from Hudson. Now of course, at the beginning of the month this probably had something to do with said attempt to cancel him. I, however, still think that pieces were being moved and plans were being finalized in the quiet that ensued when we didn't know where Hudson was, until he popped up whether in private (Atlanta) or in public in (LA, Vancouver, NYC).
Lastly, the last time Hudson put on a performance with K was at the CSA's. Right after he gushed about Connor at the Bell Media Upfront Event before going to Atlanta where Connor was filming. I don't care if it's a stretch, but maybe Hudson's performance these past weeks, has been to keep everyone looking one way, while he slips off in another direction to see someone before Season 2 starts filming. These are two men who can't go more than 2-3 weeks without seeing each other and we're coming up on that 2-week mark soon. Think about it 👇🏽.
Alright I'm turning in. But as we prepare to see whatever else we see in the coming weeks, I only have one rule.
Sorry the Sci-Fi nerd in me had to use this one again 🤣. Alright I'm out.
