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Happy 1 week since the finale 😭😭
(I love them all and will not be moving on)
Look, I am definitely not the president of the Tin Fan Club or a member of his doe-eyed defender squad, but my fingers are literally twitching and I have to defend the man for a second. Let's actually put on a 1932 Siamese royal's custom leather shoes for a hot minute! 😎
Criticism number one: “He knows people are suffering and still lives in luxury.”
Fair point, but contrary to popular belief, it doesn't prove he's just putting on an act. Tin grew up in a gilded bubble; that excessive lifestyle is literally just the water he swims in. He didn't invent systemic inequality for fun. But here’s the kicker: the show immediately calls him out on it. When Phob points out that they shouldn't be feasting while people starve, Tin doesn't get defensive. He just goes, you're right. That’s such an important moment! If the writers wanted to make him a performative phony, they would've written a cliché standoff where Phob says “People are starving” and Tin rolls his eyes and goes “Well, the elite need to maintain appearances.” Instead, Tin owns the cognitive dissonance. His problem isn't that he's blind to the suffering; it's that seeing the rot doesn't magically give you the blueprint to fix it. That makes him so much more interesting.
Criticism number two: “Ugh, why didn't he just cut off his family after the revolution?”
Look, this is so frustratingly disconnected from how history works. You can't judge a 1932 character by twenty-first-century progressive standards. Cut them off and go do what? The man is a literal royal prince. His entire life, brain wiring, career, and safety net are wrapped up in the palace. The revolution goes down, his brother is caught up in corruption, their assets get seized, his dad faces political ruin, and people are sitting on Twitter going, "Well, he should have just walked away." Walked away to where? Do y'all realize this happened ninety-four years ago in 1932? It wasn't last week! What does walking away even mean in that context? Is he supposed to issue a public press release disowning his family? Join the rebels? Leave his father high and dry while everything burns? Pretend to be a card-carrying revolutionary when he's fundamentally not one? Strip down to his bare feet and perform an ideological confession? None of that makes sense for the guy the show has actually written.
Let’s not forget that Tin never promised to be Phob. That’s the whole point. Phob’s radicalization took a decade of exile, French political science textbooks, deep-seated trauma, and experiencing systemic oppression first-hand. Tin spent that exact same decade climbing the corporate ladder of the royal government. Expecting them to be on the same page when they reunited is wild because their starting points couldn't have been more different.
Another big one is people saying, "Tin thinks only the upper crust should run the country."
Like, no, the show hasn't actually shown us that at all. What we do know is that Tin is a firm believer in competent institutions and professional governance, which is a totally different ballpark. There's a world of difference between "only blue-bloods should be in charge" and "we need steady leadership, and I think the existing setup can be fixed." Tin is definitely leaning toward option two. Plus, living in Britain adds up. He saw a constitutional monarchy up close, so in his mind, the progression goes: absolute monarchy → constitutional tweaks → modernized state. Phob has fundamentally blown past that into full-blown revolutionary territory: absolute monarchy → tear it all down → brand-new regime. That's why the restaurant confrontation hits so hard. Phob is essentially asking, Can you cross the finish line with me? And Tin can walk right up to the line, but he can't make the jump. That doesn't make him stupid or malicious; it just means his brain is wired by a completely different set of experiences about what's possible.
There’s also a massive reason why Tin can’t just sit down and do some modern self-reflection like Phob. Like I was saying earlier, Tin isn’t operating out of a political playbook; his entire internal world runs on family and tradition. The words that actually break him are things like duty, honor, sacrifice, family, and love. So when his dad corners him with "Your life isn't yours alone," Tin doesn't quote political theory at him. He just breaks down and says, "I just want to be free." That is everything. Tin’s first real act of rebellion isn't about tearing down the monarchy; it’s him finally demanding the right to own his own existence. That's why I'm so hyped for what comes next, because watching him untangle his own mind is going to be so much more interesting than watching him suddenly turn into a card-carrying revolutionary.
The core of Tin’s problem isn't just that he's backing the wrong political horse. It’s that he doesn't actually know who he is when he isn't playing a part. His entire existence has been scripted for him: by his dad, by the crown, by titles, by protocol, and now, entirely by Phob. His ultimate rebellion against his father doesn't even break the mold, because it's still just about Phob: "Let me have the man I love." So sure, he's fighting for his freedom. But he’s like a dog chasing a car; if he catches it, he has no idea what to do next.
Can we talk about how wild it is when people say Tin made the revolution "all about himself" just because he was apologizing?
Like, no! That is such a misread. If anything, the complete inverse is happening. Tin is throwing himself under the bus for every single thing that goes wrong because he’s been wired his whole life to believe he's personally accountable for the universe. Look at how he speaks: "I'm sorry, I'm so stupid, I'm sorry." That’s not a narcissist center-staging himself; that is the text-book definition of crushing, pathological self-blame. It's literally his M.O. throughout the entire story. Tin’s brain operates on a loop: Disaster strikes → It's my fault → Time to martyr myself. He did it in 1921 when he left Phob, he did it when he tried to bury his feelings, he did it when he took a literal bullet, and now he's right back at it. It's tragic, but it makes total sense for who he is.
Think about what just went down right before this. Tin finds out information that basically hands him his worst nightmare on a silver platter: The guy I'm in love with only came back because he's running a political op that's going to destroy my family. But does he throw a tantrum about treason and monarchy? No! His first reaction is just a devastated, "Why, Phob?" That is pure heartbreak talking, not political outrage. And then he limps home and has a full-blown breakdown sobbing into his dad’s arms, calling himself stupid. Why? Because his entire reality just got ripped away. He spent this whole time believing, He came back because he loves me, only to have to face the sickening thought, Oh god... what if I was wrong about everything? For someone who carries the weight of the world on his shoulders and blames himself for everything, that is the ultimate psychological hit.
This is why the whole "Tin is making the revolution about himself" argument falls totally flat for me.
Tin isn't sitting there throwing a tantrum saying, "The revolution is bad because it inconvenienced me." He’s having a total crisis of faith in his own brain: "I thought I knew the person I loved. I thought I could trust my own judgment. What if I was completely blind, and my stupidity is the reason everything went to hell?" That is worlds away from narcissism. He is literally drowning in self-blame for things that are completely out of his control. Enter his dad, who seizes on that exact weak spot and throws him a lifeline: Don't blame yourself, darling. Phob just used you. Of course that sounds comforting. It gives Tin somewhere to shove his crushing guilt so he doesn't have to keep carrying it. But Tin doesn't actually buy into the easy villain narrative. Look at what he actually tells Phob later: "I understand your ideology." Drop everything for that line, because it's huge. If Tin was just throwing a selfish, ego-driven fit, he'd demonize the politics entirely. Instead, he does the hardest thing possible: he separates the politics from the personal. He’s basically saying, I get why you had to burn the world down, but I can't be the person you throw into the fire. That is so devastatingly mature. He’s not saying Phob shouldn't care about the country; he's saying, "I'm breaking because I can't survive being your sacrifice." It's heartbreaking, and it fits his character arc to a T.
Tin’s fundamental issue isn't just that he's privileged, it's that he has virtually zero concept of his own desires as having inherent worth. Look at how routinely his happiness gets treated as an open negotiation. His father orders him to marry; Tin argues that he won't be able to make the bride happy. His father invokes family honor; Tin tells him to disown him. His father declares that Tin's life belongs to the dynasty; Tin responds that he simply won't live it. And with Phob, Tin falls into the exact same trap: I will break myself so he can stay whole. That isn't noble selflessness. That is self-erasure wrapped up in a shroud of duty. Tin never learned how to say, "I deserve this happiness." He only knows how to say, "I'll take the punishment." That is precisely why the fallout from this revolution is going to shatter him. For the very first time, the institutional scaffolding that gave him an identity is going to vanish, and he is going to have to figure out who he is when he isn't being useful to someone else.
And this is precisely what makes the father's accusation against Phob so fascinating. The father essentially tells Phob: You were never sincere. You just weaponized his love. Whether the father is objectively right is almost beside the point. What matters is that even though Tin didn't hear those exact words, this is the exact narrative Tin is most agonizingly primed to believe. Because Tin's default operating system is already, "I am the root of the problem." So his father's poison gives him a tragic out, a way to make sense of the unbearable paradox from Tin's own POV: Phob loves me, yet Phob is willing to throw me to the wolves. Tin's brain simply cannot reconcile those two truths. Consequently, telling himself, "Maybe his love was a lie all along" feels psychologically safer than facing the crushing reality: "Someone can genuinely love me to pieces and still choose a cause over me." And that is the devastating lesson both men are forced to swallow. Because Phob genuinely loves Tin, but he also genuinely believes in a future bigger than their romance. And Tin genuinely loves Phob, even though he once believed his royal duty eclipsed it all. Neither man was faking his devotion. They both just fell for the fatal delusion that love could survive being repeatedly thrown on the altar of sacrifice. Episode 8 is where that fantasy finally goes up in flames.
Now, let’s expand the prediction for the rice-mill storyline, because Tin working there could genuinely be fantastic television.
The real question is: What is this arc trying to teach him? I’ve already laid out the lazy, poorly written trap the writers could fall into, but there is a much more brilliant path available. The rice mill can strip away everything and teach Tin something he has never experienced a day in his life: What it feels like to exist with zero institutional protection. That is a completely different ballgame.
See, Tin has always intellectually understood poverty, but he has never actually experienced powerlessness. Those are two entirely different universes. Up until now, his life came with a permanent safety net: a royal title, a family name, a palace, generational wealth, elite education, institutional authority, servants, high-level connections, his father's shield, and the unshakable luxury of assuming someone else would always step in to fix the crisis. Now? All of it vanishes. That is potential rocket fuel for character development. It’s that terrifying, floor-dropping-out-from-under-you realization: "Oh my god... I have never known what it's like for there to be nobody left at the top to save me." That is the exact missing link in his worldview. And it completely reframes what he told Phob back in Episode 7 ("I don't have enough power to solve these problems"). Because now Tin is finally going to live on the flip side of that coin: What does it actually feel like to be completely, utterly powerless? That is infinitely more compelling.
But let's look past the poverty angle, because there's an even bigger emotional gut-punch here. Tin needs an arc where he finally breaks free from the two men who built him in a lab when he was just a caged prince: his dad and Phob. The symmetry of his life is actually insane if you map it out. Pre-1932 Tin? A puppet dancing to his father's tune ("You belong to this family, do as you're told"). Post-return Tin? An absolute goner whose entire identity shifted to being defined by Phob ("I am Phob's Tin"). His whole emotional core became about serving Phob and keeping him breathing. And then the rug gets pulled. The revolution destroys the monarchy, his dad loses everything, Phob walks into power with the new government, and all of Tin's safety nets (the titles, the money, the palace) evaporate overnight. Left standing in the dust is the scariest question imaginable: Without his father's name or Phob's gravity, who is Tin left with?
Okay, but Tin turning down Phob's rescue? Elite tier storytelling. Perfection. Because it would finally be the moment Tin looks all of his keepers in the face and goes: "You don't get to run my life anymore." Not his dad, not the crown, not Phob, no one. Talk about a glow-up. Picture Tin stripped of his title, his cash, and his safety net, rolling up his sleeves and going, "I'll work for a living." And not because he's throwing a pity party or trying to earn a saint badge, but because he's finally taking the wheel: "This is mine. Let me handle it." That turns his whole "I just want to be free" mantra on its head. Freedom stops being code for "Let me stay tethered to Phob" and finally transforms into: "Let me find out who the hell Tin is on his own." I am begging for this exact arc.
This also completely fixes the whole "Tin needs to understand the poor" debate that people keep recycling.
The biggest misconception is thinking Tin has to morph into Phob 2.0 to be redeemed. No! He doesn't need a party card, a radical manifesto, or a sudden socialist awakening. He just needs his massive blind spot popped. Put him at the rice mill and let him realize that everyday people aren't a monolith: some are rooting for the new regime, some hate it, and a lot of them are just trying to survive and don't trust any politicians, old or new. That would shake Tin to his core in the best way possible. Instead of viewing the world through abstract political teams, he’d actually have to look at real people with messy, contradictory lives. That’s the kind of actual, hard-earned development we want to see.
The ultimate setup of this whole series is so clear once you look at it: Tin and Phob are both addicted to the exact same toxic martyrdom loop. And then the 1932 revolution comes in and clears the board. Tin doesn't have a royal title to hide behind anymore, and Phob can't use "for the greater good" as an excuse to sacrifice Tin, because there's literally nothing left to sacrifice. All their safety nets are gone. Which means they finally have to face the real question: Can you love somebody without trying to play God and decide what's best for them? That right there is the true romantic climax. It’s not about whether a royal and a rebel can hold hands in public; it's about whether two people who are used to weaponizing protection can step back and let the other person breathe. That is so much more satisfying. And if the writers are as genius as they've been all season, that emotional reckoning is what the rice mill is building toward.

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just a normal day at mars house...
they didn't kiss?? god's strongest soldiers fr
THE PHOB SLANDER NEEDS TO END
I need people to understand that Tinn feeling betrayed and ending things between him and Phob doesn't mean what Phob did was wrong. The Phob slander I keep seeing is sad because I feel like some people watching the show don't understand the gravity of the decision he made to be a part of this revolution. For a better Siam, for a constitution that benefits all, where people who don't live as nobility have a voice, for change for all.
Tinn may feel used and that is valid because Phob did use their relationship to his advantage (reluctantly) though honestly I feel like the info he did get from Tinn wasn't what helped move the revolution forward though. Anyway, Tinn's feelings are valid but I do think though the tables have turned against the royal families, Tinn will come to understand what Phob did.
It makes me sad when people say he doesn't deserve Tinnakorn and they shouldn't end up together because why would you ever not want two people so irrevocably in love to get their happy ending? What makes Phob unworthy of Tinnakorn, because he was willing to put first the greater good for the people of his country to benefit not just them but himself and free Tinn also from the expectations of his family, so that their love could flourish?
Phob's mother's reaction irks me to no end, because she has never not chosen the royal family over her son, likening him to less because of their status. What Phob has done was to eliminate exactly that kind of system. I understand she is grateful to the royal family for all they did for them and I'll admit they were very kind to them, financing Phob's education (though isn't it exactly this kind of system that prevented him from being able to get an education without royal intervention in the first place?) and encouraging the friendship between the two, the grandma was even fine with their relationship if only to see her grandson happy. And Phob has never been ungrateful to them. He appreciates it all but look at Chat. Embezzling and misappropriating Ministry funds; for people's salaries and pensions. The people on the street with little to no food. If you had the opportunity to exact change that benefitted the many over the few, is that not a noble cause?
I just needed to vent a bit because the Phob slander has been getting to me. In conclusion, Phob's actions are valid and so are Tinn's feelings and I hope these two make it back to each other sooner rather than later. They suffered enough with an 11 year separation.
I'm not watching a preview ever fucking again.

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Hey, have you noticed that in every single photo of Vasin from various tumblr posts about his fights with Tinn, he makes the funniest, craziest faces? This actor's facial expressions are out of this world 😄
These are random screenshots I took
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I saw someone on Twitter predicting that Tin will single-handedly help Phob overthrow the monarchy based on next week's preview. God, I hope not.
That would feel so Wattpad 😭 We don't need "love fixes the revolution" in a historical drama! The show's biggest flex so far has been treating the politics like a real, high-stakes conflict, not just a convenient background obstacle for two cute boys to overcome. If the writers suddenly turn Tin into the secret MVP who hands the People's Party the win, they’d completely undermine all that beautiful tension.
Thankfully, the preview leaves room for a much juicy narrative route. We’ve watched Tin for five episodes now. He’s no fool. He’s the King’s right-hand man, sitting right at the center of power with his finger on the pulse of the nation. Believing Phob is just accidentally stumbling into every major political event would be absurd. Based on what he told his father, he already knows deep down. The real question isn't if he'll figure it out, it's "How much longer can he keep gaslighting himself?"
This is also why I’m not buying the "Phob confesses the plot" theory for a second. Historically speaking, that’s a disaster waiting to happen. The People’s Party wasn't a book club. It was a tight, underground conspiracy built over years. Their whole superpower was top-tier compartmentalization: you only knew what you needed to know. The idea that Phob would go, "You know what? Let me just outline the entire coup to the King's personal secretary," just because said secretary gives him cute eyes? Absolutely absurd. No matter how down-bad Phob is, what happens if Tin says no? Congratulations, you just handed an imminent military coup to a high-ranking royal official on a silver platter. That's not romance, that's treasonous stupidity. A revolutionary as disciplined as Phob doesn't take that gamble, and the Phob we know definitely wouldn't. He’s too smart, and frankly too paranoid to throw away years of conspiracy for a pretty face.
It also does a huge disservice to Tin's character arc. If the show goes down that route, Tin stops being a fully realized person and just becomes an extension of Phob. We lose the brutal tragedy of him choosing between his loyalty to the Crown and the man he loves. Instead, he’s reduced to "the royal boytoy aiding the coup." Boring! Up until now, Tin has had a distinct brain of his own: he believes in measured reform, fears the chaos of revolution, and cares deeply about human life. Those convictions don't just evaporate because he's down bad for a captain.
Where I do see the writers going, however, is the beauty of doing absolutely nothing. I can totally imagine Tin hitting that crushing moment of realization: "Oh... Phob is actually one of them." And then? Silence. Not helping, not snitching... just absolute, frozen inaction. That is a vastly more interesting moral choice, because doing nothing is still a choice. Imagine Tin holding enough evidence to ruin Phob's life. He can't bring himself to hand him over, but he can't actively betray the Crown either. He’s completely paralyzed, and that paralysis itself becomes a turning point in history. That feels so much more in-character than him secretly putting on a revolutionary beret.
Now, about the intel on the King's whereabouts... This is where my skepticism dials up to eleven. Historically, the King's location wasn't just a fun piece of trivia; it was the entire operational jackpot. King in Bangkok? Game plan A. King in Hua Hin? The People’s Party takes Bangkok first. It was operationally decisive! I swear, if the writers turn this into a casual post-sex confession where Tin just leaks state secrets over pillow talk, I'll scream 😭😭😭 That makes the entire coup hinge on romantic serendipity! The show is way smarter than that. I want Phob doing actual intelligence work: stealing documents, running surveillance, or piecing together overheard details. Let his betrayal actually feel like a heavy, dangerous betrayal.
If the writers want to play with real history, there's a massive loophole they could use: Prince Paribatra's legendary hesitation. Imagine Tin getting his hands on a list of suspects (remember, the royalists did have military snitches around the Rattanakosin sesquicentennial) and unknowingly causing the delay himself. Not by being a rebel, but by being a relentless lawyer for justice! Tin argues the evidence is thin, insists on due process, and begs his father for just one more day to verify the intel. His goal isn't "hooray for the revolution"; it's "we don't arrest people on rumors." And that exact decency gives Phob’s side the breathing room they need. It’s wonderfully tragic: Tin’s own morality becomes the ultimate Trojan horse. He accidentally burns down the regime by trying to do the right thing. Now that preserves everyone's integrity.
Here is my official breakdown of how these theories stack up against the show's actual writing:
Tin figures out Phob’s secret and stays silent to bide his time: 5/5 (Clean, tense, logical)
Tin looks the other way because he refuses to send his love to the gallows: 4/5 (Deliciously painful)
Tin accidentally delays the crackdown by insisting on ethical procedures: 4/5 (Top-tier narrative irony)
Phob swipes the Hua Hin intel on his own, suffering immense moral agony: 5/5 (100% on brand for him)
Tin willingly leaks state secrets to his crush: 1/5 (Be serious)
Tin puts on a revolutionary beret and joins the coup: 0/5 (Did we watch the same show?)
The bottom two options completely erase the tension. The entire weight of this tragedy relies on the fact that they are both trying to save Siam according to their own principles. Neither man needs to switch teams for this story to be brilliant.
One thing I deeply appreciate about Tin's characterization is that the writers refuse to flatten him into a basic anti-reform royalist. He isn't blind to the system's flaws; he just genuinely believes in fixing the machine from the inside, while Phob has given up and brought out the sledgehammer. It’s an actual battle of worldviews, not a Disney moral spectrum. If the show respects its own premise, the ultimate heartbreak shouldn't be Tin switching sides for love. It should be Tin looking at Phob, completely understanding his motives, and realizing, "I love you, but I can't walk down this road with you." A mutual understanding without a neat political compromise? That's peak storytelling.