#phobtin

or, How I Found A Little Hope

(I was trying to sort through the episode from both Phob's and Tin's specific perspectives, and identifying what Tin's experience of Phob is, completely separate from our omniscient audience insight into Phob's point of view. Isolating Tin's narrative blind spots ironically gave me a big moment of clarity that I decided was too important not to share.)

(I really hope y'all aren't sick of ep 8 meta at this point... or of me never shutting up about this show. Okay here we go!)

The Initial Gut Punch - Betrayal

Tin begins the episode in pretty much pure confusion - he doesn't know anything. What has happened? Where is Phob? Is his family okay? What does this all mean?

Until Tin goes to Nual's house, and hears the truth from Phob in truly the worst way:

"We are not dogs, mae! We don't have to be grateful for whatever scraps they throw our way. We're all human, including the royals. We deserve the same dignity and respect. We shouldn't have to bow to them forever!" ... "I did what I had to do."

This is so different from the way this conversation would have been framed if it were Phob breaking the news to Tin himself. Nual, as we are all aware, is a trauma-informed royalist; she literally cannot see Phob's ideology as anything other than dangerous ingratitude. They owe their lives, livelihoods, and every good thing they've ever gotten, in her view, to the benevolence of their masters; a benevolence only earned by staying firmly bowed under their heels. Phob's words to his mother are forceful because that's the only way he'll ever get through to her - by trying his best to shatter the warped lens of her worldview.

But - unknowingly, he shatters Tin, instead.

Every happy memory he has of Phob since their reunion - every steadfast promise, every moment of affection, every passionate declaration - has it all just been a lie?

I don't know if I believe that Tin would assume that it was all a ruse, that Phob never loved him - his own feelings run too deep to characterize Phob that uncharitably. But this violent reframe of their relationship, of Phob's recent desperate reassurances, of Tin's willingness to leave everything behind - it's a gut punch, a deep and sudden knife in his heart.

"Why, Phob? Why?!"

Twisting the Knife - Phob at the Palace

Their next encounter does not make anything better. Tin has already begun to blame himself, thinking the current political chaos is his fault; all because he was too weak and too blind. I think he has a lot of questions at this point about what exactly they were to each other, but he is now firmly of the belief that Phob betrayed and used him.

This time, what Tin overhears is Phob's reaction to the disgust and resentment from his own family. Vasin and especially Chat are hugely symbolic of the flaws and prejudices of the old regime, and Phob has to confront them for it:

"Noblemen like you are the very reason the old regime had to fall. It upheld a system that allowed those born into nobility to oppress others and take advantage of people regardless of their ability. They relied solely on the privilege of their birth while bleeding the nation dry."

Tin knew, to a certain extent, that Phob felt this way. But hearing these words in this moment just emphasizes how personal this is for Phob. How much his own family (and therefore, Tin himself) is complicit, and, even worse, how it drove Phob to see them as the enemy.

Phob finally sees Tin, knows he overheard, and reacts with sudden anxiety, desperate to talk to him. We the audience know why - we know Phob genuinely loves Tin and hasn't seen him and wants so badly to have a chance to explain himself - but that same desperation could read out of context as a liar anxious because he's been caught. Tin only gets more evidence that he has been betrayed, and furthermore, more conviction that he was the weak link that allowed for this upheaval.

"I was so stupid. It all happened because of me... I'm sorry."

Both Better And Worse - The Letter

So, with his father certain that Phob was only ever using him, and his personal, professional and familial worlds all in chaos, Tin has been cut off from Phob. Deep in his grief and heartbreak over the gulf between what he thought they were and what Phob chose to do, Tin has lingering questions and no answers.

But then, Siri delivers the letter. And finally, albeit one-sidedly, Phob is able to explain himself to the man he loves, with words he actually chooses.

"I know what I did shattered your trust in me beyond forgiveness. There were times I wondered if everything could have been different had I chosen otherwise. But I had no choice. What I saw was never just about you and me. It was about countless people who were never given the chance to choose their own lives. I wanted to see a world where no one would have to suffer simply because they were born beneath someone else. And I still believe that when our country truly changes, when everyone is free to choose their own path, our love will no longer have to remain a secret. I am not asking you to forgive me. I am not asking you to understand me right away. I just want you to know that I've loved you every single day, and I always will."

It's both better and worse than Tin thought - because he finally has confirmation that Phob did and does love him after all. Phob's choices were made taking that love into account, because Tin will always be Phob's exception and motivation.

Why is that better? Well, Tin finally understands that Phob wasn't just using him out of some long con of spite. What they had was and is real for Phob. He's loved Tin every day of his life, and that will never, ever change.

Why is that worse? Ohhh, because it means this gets so much more complicated, for both of them. Phob did use and betray Tin - because of and in spite of his love for his Prince. Phob's dreams and ambitions and visions of the future are grand enough to want to free and save everyone, including Tin, even if it meant hurting him deeply, even if it meant destroying his trust. Phob made his devastating choices, and still retained a desperate hope that he could change the world enough not just for everyone else, but for the two of them.

(Quick tangent - A part of me wants to connect this letter to Tin's, from Episode 3 - but I think they are very different.

Tin, in his letter, lied. He did it out of love, his willingness to sacrifice his own happiness; to liberate Phob and give him what he thought would be the best possible future. It was designed to cut Phob just enough to cleanly sever their bond and send them off on their different trajectories, letting Tin be the only one to carry and bury the truth. That failed - it hurt Phob deeper than anything, and made him determined to find Tin again. But, regardless, Tin's intention was for separation to set them free.

Phob, in his letter, tells the truth. It hurts just as much, but Phob is trying to salvage their shared happiness from the wreckage of his choices. He wants both his feelings and his reasoning to be understood, while making space for the pain he caused and the lack of forgiveness he anticipates. It's unflinchingly honest and layered where Tin's was detached and simple.

So, yeah. Very different.)

How does Tin respond to this? Ah, now we're getting to the heart of it...

Tin says nothing, and sends Phob his ring.

Dear reader, I need to highlight a small but important detail - Tin isn't giving his ring back, he is giving it up. Literally - Tin is the one who bought the rings for them; but he isn't asking Phob to return his, he is sacrificing his own on purpose. (Let's come back to this thought later.)

Acceptance, and Sacrifice

The circumstances of their meeting in the final scene are not ideal - Tin has been forced to give up his position, and Phob is devastated to be so powerless to stop the collateral damage he's causing for the one person he wanted to be the exception.

Tin and Phob finally, finally meet face to face in the final scene of the episode, and are able to talk face to face. I want to bring up a few important lines:

Tin says "There's no need [to advocate for me]. I'm no longer of any use to you." Oooooof. This line right here tells me that, although Phob has explained himself, although Tin understands him a lot better, Tin is not yet emotionally removed from the betrayal he experienced. There's still a wound there, even if Tin is not trying to hurt Phob so much as he is trying to erase himself.

"Phob, if you could turn back time, would you still do the same?" / "...I would." Tin has read Phob's letter, but he needs to hear Phob speak the words out loud. He needs Phob to say that he wouldn't give up his convictions just for Tin. Phob confirms that this is bigger than the two of them, and worth the pain it has caused. Agonizing, but also, confirmation that Phob won't lie to make Tin feel better. He loves him enough to believe Tin deserves his painful honesty.

"I understand. I appreciate your honesty. I believe you... Phob, I understand your intentions. I understand what you stand for. And I truly believe that you want what's best for this country." Tin gets it. He's fucking heartbroken, but it's not anger, and it's not forgiveness. It's understanding and acceptance without reconciliation. That part matters.

From here, Tin chooses to leave, to say goodbye. "We are two people who can't be in love." Why?

Upon first watch, I questioned it. If Tin understands, now, why can't they just... be together? Why can't Tin trust Phob and choose his own happiness?

Tin knows Phob, accepts Phob for who he is. He sees Phob's convictions and hopes, but that doesn't mean Tin shares them. The subtext says, "I know you believe in what you say, and I really want you to bring your vision of the future to life. But I cannot see how this chaos is supposed to turn into something good. I love you, but I don't believe you can save me from the fallout."

It's like Phob is climbing a steep, rocky mountain. He's planned for this, he has all the gear he needs, and he knows if he can survive the arduous climb, there will be a beautiful sunrise and a brand new day that he (and everyone! everyone!) will see from the peak. A glorious day will unfold, if they can just make it there.

Tin is with him, on the same mountain. All his ropes have been cut. All his gear has been lost. Phob seems sure, but Tin only feels the rocks slipping under his feet, the sweat on his palms, the avalanche rumbling somewhere ahead of them. His whole world is in turmoil, and he has no rulebook for this, nothing to fall back on. He can't care about the summit if he won't survive the fall. If he ties himself to Phob, with blind faith - there's no real guarantee he won't doom them both.

After looking at this scene, and these lines, one more thing jumped out at me, from the ep 9 preview. It's in a different context entirely, the stakes have completely changed. But this -

"I don't want to be an obstacle that forces you to choose between me and what you believe in. I will watch your success from afar."

is exactly the same as this -

"He is a soldier with a bright future. I will never cause him any damage. I will never let him ruin his future because of me."

Dear reader, the realization hit me like a brick. This is so STAGGERINGLY in character for Tin. This is a familiar song, dear reader!! We've heard this tune! We have been here before.

And THAT gives me - unexpectedly - so much hope.

I don't believe things will play out the same way they did, necessarily - we're in a very different context now, a different world. But if they've tread this ground before, they can do so again. They can overcome their own flaws and failings. They can find their way back to each other, in spite of everything. And maybe this time, all the old rules won't matter anymore.

Tin didn't give the ring back, he gave the ring up. Sacrifice. Why? Phob has redefined what the highest heights of his achievement can be, and all Tin can see is all the ways he's going to weigh Phob down in reaching for them. So he'll try to walk away - out of love, out of the deepest love in his heart - to give Phob, once again, the brightest future that he possibly can.

Honestly, Tin is way less invested in politics than Phob because his main goal in life is literally just: "Let me love Phob in peace." Like, look at his actual priorities throughout the series.

When his dad tries to set him up with Siri, Tin isn't out here debating state policy. He just tells him straight up that he can't be a real husband to her. When his dad lectures him about family honor, Tin fires back with, "If that honor means a life without Phob, keep it." Even when he's locked up, what’s he saying? "I just want to be with the person I love," and "I just want to be free." That is not someone whose driving force is overthrowing the government.

That’s just a guy who wants basic human freedom and his boyfriend back. And honestly? We need to acknowledge how different that is from Phob's path.

Tin definitely cares about politics, but only on a human, empathetic level rather than a structural one. To phrase it precisely: Tin has political consciousness, yet lacks a political agenda.

He’s not blind. He sees the bad economy.

He watches people starving right outside government buildings.

He knows the administration is dropping the ball.

He's ready to support anyone who can actually help.

But let’s look at his blind spots, because they're telling. He’s never out here saying, "We need to overthrow the monarchy." He doesn't join secret societies, he doesn't investigate coup rumors, and he couldn't care less about political philosophy. He isn't mapping out a new government or brainstorming what post-revolution Siam should look like. That's Phob's lane. Tin is nowhere near that. And honestly? That character gap is everything.

This actually loops back to make that restaurant scene so good. Remember when I said Tin's quote about supporting whoever can fix the country meant he was secretly a reformist? Yeah, I take that back. That's giving him too much credit.

It's actually a lot simpler than that: Tin just doesn't care enough about preserving the status quo to hate someone for trying to change it. When he says, "If they can actually help people, why would I fight them?" he isn't shouting: "Sign me up for the revolution!"

He’s basically saying: "I'm not going to be anyone's enemy just for doing things differently."

And look at Phob's face right after.

He looks so smugly satisfied. Why? Because Phob realizes he has an opening: Tin won't stand in the way of the coup, but he also has no idea what he's walking into.

That disconnect is literally the whole point.

Call me crazy, but I’m still convinced Tin knows Phob is involved. Now, I’m not saying he has a spreadsheet of the entire underground plot or anything, but the text gives us way too much to ignore: Tin definitely knows Phob is playing with fire. The biggest proof? His warning to stay away from "those people." Like, be for real, you don't pull a panic-induced warning like that out of nowhere unless you already know your partner is knee-deep in dangerous company. Tin sees the writing on the wall. Plus, remember who brings up the coup rumors in the first place? Tin does. Right in the middle of their first big, intimate reunion scene. That’s not just random screenwriting filler; it means it's been living rent-free in Tin's head. He’s sharp enough to put two and two together.

But I don’t think Tin ever truly believed Phob would betray him, which ties right back to what he did during the Rattanakosin sesquicentennial. He simply gave Phob way too much benefit of the doubt. Honestly, that’s almost certainly what's playing out here.

Tin's internal logic probably went something like this:

"I know you're up to something shady."

"I know it's going to get you killed."

"I have no idea what your game is."

"But I know you love me."

"So you'd never hurt me on purpose."

That’s not him being stupid about politics; that’s his heart completely hijacking his common sense because he trusts Phob blindly. Which makes it all the more devastating when Episode 8 comes along and completely guts him.

Tin’s biggest mistake wasn't being totally clueless.

It was thinking, “Okay, I know he's hiding something, but there's no way Phob would ever choose politics over me.”

And honestly? You can't even blame him, because he has receipts. He has so much proof that Phob loves him, so his brain naturally goes to, "Whatever secret he's keeping, we'll figure it out as a team." That’s why he’s so reassuring when Phob wakes him in distress.

But the second he accidentally overhears, "I did what I had to do," the floor drops out from under him. The worst-case scenario becomes his reality:

Oh. So there was a hidden agenda all along, and I was just kept completely in the dark.

And at the end of the day, I wasn't enough to make him stop.

Ouch. That hurts on a cellular level.

This is also why Phob’s mom accidentally becomes the worst possible source of information. Tin never gets to hear Phob explain himself. He misses the entire ideological breakdown. He doesn't hear, "I love Tin, but the system has to change." Instead, he walks right into Phob's mother hurling the exact accusation he's always terrified of: You used your relationship with the prince. And then, to make matters worse, Phob responds with: "I did what I had to do."

Talk about an absolute disaster for Tin's mental state. All context goes right out the window. All Tin sees is the equation:

Phob + secret radicals + "I did what I had to do" + getting called a pawn.

So his mind naturally fills in the blanks. And because Tin has spent his whole life being fed the line, "You have to sacrifice your personal happiness for duty," hearing that fatalistic phrasing from Phob cuts him to the core. It essentially translates to: "Yeah, I loved you, but the cause came first." That's the knife twist.

Siri and Tin's reactions are such a good mirror of each other. When Siri hears that the revolution is going to bring freedom, she's basically like, "Bet. Does that mean I can do anything now?"

Meanwhile, Tin gets told that liberation is on the horizon, and his brain instantly short-circuits into panic mode: "Okay, but where does this leave Phob?"

That's why Siri embraces the chaos so easily. The revolution isn't threatening her relationship. For Tin, though? It’s a completely different story. His entire trauma history with Phob is built around losing him to class divides and politics. Of course he's laser-focused on the personal fallout instead of the grand political picture.

The irony of this is honestly devastating. Phob is literally trying to tear down the exact system that drove them apart, but to Tin, the revolution just feels like history repeating itself: it's tearing them apart again. You can't expect Tin to just go, "Yay, you're fighting for equality, go you!" because he doesn't have the luxury of looking at politics abstractly. For him, the revolution has a body count, and that body count is his relationship. He isn't seeing a glorious uprising; he's seeing the man he loves grow distant, keep secrets, disappear into the night, choose a movement over him, and put his family in danger. Even if Phob is building a world that could eventually set Tin free, right now, Tin is living through it as a front-row seat to being abandoned.

This also changes my read on Tin's so-called "politics." If I had to label his vibe, it's more like:

Politically observant.

Institutionally loyal by default.

Emotionally checked out from the bigger picture.

He’s not sitting in the palace drinking Kool-Aid thinking the royal bloodline is sacred. He’s just operating on autopilot: "I was born here, this is my job, my people are here, why rock the boat?" It’s so much more realistic.

But the second the crown stands between him and his happiness? The switch flips. He goes, "Okay, cool, then take it all." That's why his dad looks at him like he's lost his mind. Tin isn't trying to start a philosophical debate about governance or a new regime. He's literally just drawing a line in the sand and saying, "If being a prince costs me Phob, I'm done." It is intensely, heartbreakingly personal, not ideological at all.

This is why I think the fandom's critique of Tin needs a slight correction when they yell, "Why doesn't Tin get that Phob is trying to free him?" It makes sense until you realize everyone is projecting their own goals onto him.

The fandom thinks:

Tin wants to smash the social hierarchy and be free.

What Tin actually wants:

Tin just wants Phob.

Freedom is only valuable to him if it gets him his person. Look at how Siri reacts to the idea of freedom. She hears "You can do anything" and gets hyped for the revolution. But Tin? Tin’s response is just, "I just want to be with the man I love." They're both chasing "freedom," but Siri sees it as a political crusade, while Tin sees it as a domestic necessity. That is a massive gap in how their brains work.

That's precisely why I keep saying Tin isn't just an idiot when it comes to politics.

He sees the suffering all around him.

He recognizes that the government is broken.

He knows Phob is running with dangerous crowds.

I'd even argue he's open to the idea that Phob's faction has a legitimate point.

But let's be real: Tin doesn't have a revolutionary bone in his body. Politics is a sideshow for him; Phob is the main event. And because he loves Phob so unconditionally, he hands him a massive blank check of trust: "I might not fully get what you're up to, but I trust you." Until Episode 8 hits him with the horrifying realization: "Oh god... I thought I was the one thing in your life that was safe from your politics." That is why his breakdown is so catastrophic.

It’s not that he’s rejecting the concept of equality, nor is he fundamentally dismissing Phob’s diagnosis of Siam. What he’s rejecting is the terrifying reality that his love for Phob can survive Phob’s revolution without one of them inevitably consuming the other as collateral. Which, ironically, is the exact dilemma the show has been building toward since Episode 6. That reading makes him infinitely more compelling than the reductive "ignorant elite" take. Tin is a politically conscious man. He just cares about his emotional survival more than macro-politics, and he genuinely believed his boyfriend wouldn't make him an accidental casualty of the regime change. Episode 8 doesn't just hurt him, it blows that trust to absolute smithereens.

Siri serves as a brilliant counterpoint to Tin.

Her reaction explains why the audience might feel frustrated with him, but it doesn't prove that Tin is politically dense or self-absorbed. The vital difference lies in what each character perceives is at stake. When Janthron explains to Siri that a new system could grant ordinary people freedom and equality, her immediate takeaway isn’t, "Ah yes, this will elevate the masses." Instead, it’s, "Wait... does this mean I can be free, too?" Suddenly, the revolution becomes personally legible to her.

As a princess, she realizes that holding immense privilege is not the same thing as having autonomy. She has been raised under a crushing weight of protocol: marry the right person, uphold the royal image, behave impeccably, protect the family name, and sacrifice every personal desire for dynastic leverage. So when Janthron suggests that liberty and equality could extend even to the royal bloodline, Siri instantly grasps the personal translation: “You mean I wouldn't have to live my entire life as everyone else's puppet?” That is a language she speaks fluently.

This is honestly why people in the fandom lose their minds over Tin, because from our seat in the audience, he keeps missing the most obvious connections.

His dad looks him dead in the eye and says: "Your life isn't yours alone." And Tin's only response is: "I just want to be free."

Meanwhile, Phob is out here building an entire political movement to tear down the exact systemic power structures that allow his dad to control him like that. Naturally, the audience is screaming at their screens: PHOB IS LITERALLY TRYING TO FREE YOU TOO 😭

And look, they’re not even far off! I'm convinced the writers put that irony there on purpose. Phob's revolution isn't just about the working class; the world he's trying to build would also burn down the invisible walls caging Tin in. That’s why that moment where Phob tells Tin, "You may not have to bear this burden all by yourself in the future," is so monumentally important. It proves that Phob sees Tin's personal imprisonment and suffering as an inherent part of the system's injustice, too.

But here’s the catch. Tin doesn't frame his oppression as a systemic issue. He experiences it on a purely micro level: "My father is breaking me." There's a massive difference. While a bird's-eye view looks at the hierarchy and translates it straight to systemic liberation (System -> Freedom), Tin’s internal map is strictly localized: Father -> Family -> Duty -> Phob. His emotional radar is deeply, intensely personal.

When Tin confesses, "Honor has never made me happy. All it's ever brought me is misery and burden," he is already actively rejecting the crushing cost of the old hierarchy. But he hasn't made that final, structural leap: "Therefore, the entire system needs to be burned to the ground." That missing puzzle piece is literally the exact divide between where Tin is standing and where Phob has already arrived.

Siri has something Tin fundamentally lacks: psychological distance. This is the exact piece that explains their diverging reactions so well.

Siri isn't emotionally wrapped up in the machinery of the revolution the way Tin is. But Tin? Tin’s entire reality is tangled up in it because his family is the system. So when Phob comes in saying, "We have to change the system," Tin isn't hearing a romantic liberation speech.

He’s hearing: "Everything and everyone you love needs to be destroyed."

That is a vastly heavier emotional burden to carry. Siri, on the other hand, can look at the revolutionary argument with clear eyes and ask a simple, pragmatic question: "Okay, but what's in it for me?" The answer for Siri is just... freedom.

But there’s an even more critical dividing line: Siri isn't being forced to choose between his own liberation and Phob. Tin is.

This is why people often overlook how psychologically agonizing Tin’s position really is. Picture the internal tug-of-war playing out in his head:

Phob: "The system is broken."

Tin: "True."

Phob: "So we have to tear it down."

Tin: "...I guess."

Tin: "Wait, does this mean my family's world has to burn?"

Phob: "Probably."

Tin: "Does this mean we get to be together?"

Phob: "Someday, hopefully."

Tin: "Then why does it feel like I'm losing you to the cause?"

That's where it hurts. Phob is fighting to build a future where Tin could theoretically be free, while Tin is standing there, bleeding out, begging Phob to save him right now.

Those are two completely different, fundamentally incompatible emotional demands.

Siri’s political awakening is brilliant characterization because it proves that being privileged doesn't mean you're actually free.

Siri and Tin are both at the top of the food chain, but they're still trapped in golden cages. The moment Siri realizes that true equality means she finally has the autonomy to author her own life, the revolutionary concept clicks for her emotionally.

Look at how their mindsets stack up side-by-side:

Phob: "The whole system is corrupt and needs to burn."

Siri: "Hold on. This system is choking the life out of me, too?"

Tin: "I know it's choking me, but it's also my family. I can't stomach trading everyone I love to fix it."

That’s why Siri can cross that political bridge so fast, while Tin is left standing on the other side, torn apart by the weight of it.

Tin's whole deal is, "Ugh, my dad is just on a power trip." And if you think your dad is just being an unreasonable jerk, your logical next step is trying to reason with him. But Phob’s perspective is: "No, babe, your dad is acting like a tyrant because the system gives him a badge to do it." If the system is the actual villain, begging your dad to change won't do a damn thing, you have to tear the whole house down. And the moment Janthron spells that out for Siri, he connects the dots instantly.

This is also why I think we have to be careful about claiming that "Tin just doesn't see what Phob is trying to do for him."

I think he does see it eventually. He just doesn’t believe that accepting Phob’s political solution is the same thing as accepting Phob’s love. Welcome to the Episode 8 emotional bloodbath. By that point, Tin has painfully learned two truths:

Tin's whole stance is basically: "I understand why you had to do it. I just can't live like this with you."

That's why walking away is so heartbreaking. He isn't arguing that Phob was wrong about fighting for freedom. He’s saying, "I cannot be loved by someone who is willing to use me as a sacrifice to achieve it."

And that is a hell of a lot harder problem to fix. Good luck untangling that mess, because there's no easy fix for it.

I get why people are mad at Tin, but I think the fandom is directing that anger at all the wrong things. Sure, it's totally fair to critique him for being slow on the uptake while Siri connects the dots effortlessly. It’s fair to say his bubble shields him from reality, and it's fair to point out that Phob is literally trying to build a world that would free Tin from his miserable obligations. But writing him off with "Tin just doesn't care about equality"? Absolutely not. The show hasn't given us a single episode that backs that up. The writers knew exactly what they were doing when they put him in this impossible corner.

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1. We're watching a bl, historical-yes bl-non the less. And pretty obviously set to be viewed through the lens of a romance series. Of course people are gonna care more for the pretty boys' tears than the revolution. It's not a documentary. I'm only stating this because I keep seeing comments about monarchy apologists and not caring for the people, but the show itself invests more on the main characters' feelings, otherwise we would have seen more of the people suffering (so the viewers would become emotionally invested) than just a mention of Phob's hardships, Chat's "shenanigans" (I hate that character, love the actor), and people sitting down and eating scraps (Tin's father doesn't count, he mostly doesn't want his son to be gay). We know why the change is important to one of the main characters though.

2. Phob probably wasn't aware how deep his and Tin's love was when he proposed the idea of getting info from him. The more he realised, the more reluctant he was.

3. Tin loves, understands and forgives Phob. But he is now more than ever bound to his family, because there is no way they can handle him being with a man responsible for their fall from power. And he does love his family. Not the royals, not the duty, his grandma, father and brother. He could choose to leave them when he thought they were safe, not when they don't know what's gonna happen.

4. Was the Thai society that progressive in the 30s that could accept homosexual relationships if there was no class divide, or is Phob being delusional? Cause I'm betting on him being delusional, sorry.