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Now these scenes SHOULD be progressive, cuz it allows diversity, inclusively, radical organising and the subcultures to expand but saying they already are, is a thought terminating cliché, it makes us forget the work we have to do to make these spaces better, erases the hate and hurt these spaces has caused.

This consistant rewriting of goth and punk history (not actually understanding the complex and nuanced contect of these subcultures) falls under a grand narrative, that we've always been perfect, when songs like "nazi die" had to be made because of how maluable punk is, and because we want its family definition to not let nazis in.

The calling of goth "specifically leftist" is increasingly strange too, as arguably goth was a pulling away from the harsher more radical sides of punk. Obviously there is progressive politics involved such as gender qeering, sexual autonomy and individual liberation, but these things are arguably still kinda liberal and individualist (definitely are the bases for more radical action tho)

These subcultures origins may not be the most revolutionary (arguably they are most in line with Sitiationalism which i have my own gripes with) but they definitely have the potential for more radical ends as they have proven to be in certain contexts