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While I'm thinking about things that are implied in the John chapters...
I remember A— and M—… they were alive … we all hid behind a kitchen table. I remember their hands in my hands … I remember A— telling me something, and M— saying, We’re together. We’ll go together.
But they found us, they were already there. They shot A— right in front of us … hauled me out … M— said, Take John alive. He’s worth more to you alive. And they shot her.
He stood there and he said: “Do you remember what I said was coming?”
She said, “Yes.”
He said, “This is the part where I hurt you..."
They've been cornered by heavily armed former cultists. John has been dragged out from behind the table, over A-'s dead body, and M- is begging them not to shoot him because, evidently, they are very much planning to shoot him. They shoot M-, and then John's narration...jumps. Jumps to him outside, yelling at the spirit of the earth, about to set everything in terrible motion.
There's something missing here.
John and Nona's stories unfold with a series of parallel moments, and I can't help but think that Nona gets shot (twice) but it simply doesn't stick.
Did John wait til his friends were both dead before remembering that he could kill people with magic? Or did they shoot him too?
I rather suspect that Gideon's abilities may in some ways reflect what Alecto gave John pre-res. And she notably doesn't stay dead.
I don't have the book on hand rn, but I remember there was a passage immediately before the one you quoted where John recalls standing in the room watching everybody shot each other and somehow they kept missing him. I always assumed John got shot at multiple times and didn't realise it because his body kept healing. But now you're making me think that maybe he actually got shot dead, too
#Given the no good very bad probably no more than 40 minutes that man had involving various people and probably himself getting shot#You begin to wonder if the whole swords thing in the Houses wasn't just because it was hashtag aesthetic (via @katakaluptastrophy)
Don't get me wrong, it was definitely his choice to Do This To Her, that part was John, or scraps of John, but definitely not her. But I keep thinking about this with the idea of him getting shot and waking up in Tantrum Mode, and now I'm questioning more than ever how much the lines were already blurring.
Her anger, his anger, her fear, his grief, her raw and feral power, his obsession, her desperation and drive, his impulsive decisions...
From the point that it becomes clear that his attempt to stop the FTL ships by taking the nuke to Melbourne has failed, John crashes hard. When the nun turns up with Pyrrah's gun, his reaction is:
I thought she was there to kill me. Titania and Ulysses were there, but I didn’t have them jump in front of me, I didn’t have them stop her. I guess I almost—I was feeling pretty bad, you know? I was feeling pretty shaken.
Later, after he's watched his friends die and possibly died himself and then woken up alone beside A- and M-'s bodies, he begs the earth to take him and purge him and use him.
John spends an awful lot of John 1:20 wanting in some way to no longer exist. And he is reborn in terrible violence as he... Tries to be subsumed into something greater? Become something that cannot fear and fail?
In the pool scene, Harrow tells Gideon about how she broke into the Tomb to see if the terrible violence used to create her was worth it, planning to walk out of the airlock if it wasn't:
“Nav, when I saw her face I decided I wanted to live. I decided to live forever just in case she ever woke up.”
I've been thinking about that AU where Abigail notices Wake's ghost in Canaan House before anyone dies. Which has me wondering.... how does summoning a ghost even work outside the River? How do you talk to it?
Nothing we've seen implies that spectres are capable of just manifesting without possessing a physical form. Revenants certainly can't, or things might have gone a bit differently on the Mithraeum.
I imagine the Ninth nuns might have put Wake back in her dead body to get a few words out of her immediately postmortum, but that wouldn't work in Canaan House, and it wouldn't have worked for the Eighth ncromancers who questioned Glaurica. Do summoners have some object they invite the revenant to possess? Do they channel the spirit themselves under carefully controlled circumstances?
Great news!! Signs indicate this is more or less exactly what happened!
Augustine and Ianthe go on to elaborate that thanergy mass could be comprised of grave goods, remains, a murder weapon, all examples were tangible physical objects.
All of them were non-options for Glaurica, too, lost in space. 🤔 Doctor Sex ended up borrowing the skeleton of a blood relative. I wonder what Glaurica's soul latched onto. A book is as likely a choice as any, especially if she' ever bled on it.
I'm so sorry, OP, but I have spent way too much time thinking about the functionality of Fifth necromancy...
So when we see Abigail summing Wake's ghost in the River bubble, she is doing what in many respects looks like a nekiya - an ancient Greek ghost calling rite. In fact, many of the steps she takes and words she says are drawn directly from Odysseus summoning the ghost of Tiresias in the Odyssey: a libation of what might be milk and honey (no blood to follow, as she's a ghost herself, but as mammalian milk is a blood product it presumably has some efficacy there), a form of words and promises of future blood offerings. Now nekiya is often associated with liminal underworld-adjacent spaces, but that wasn't a prerequisite for the rite. In literature, these ghosts are viscerally corporeal: they physically consume the blood offering, and you can fend them off with a sword.
Here's Odysseus talking to a friend's physically present ghost, who has been attracted by the blood from the sacrificed rams:
The other detail we get about Fifth necromancy is that it involves a lot of complicated chalk diagrams. Which is also a feature of historical practices of necromancy (fun fact: the idea of necromancy as raising skeleton soldiers or zombies or whatnot is very modern. Historically, "necromancy" means summoning the spirits of the dead to gain knowledge. The Fifth are, quite literally, practicing biblically accurate necromancy).
We don't get any details about the chalk circles Abigail is drawing, but my assumption is that it's meant to be drawing on early modern necromantic practices. Here's John Dee and Edward Kelly summoning a ghost:
The only suggestion we get that what we see Abigail doing is outside of her usual practice is her not being able to use her own or other people's blood. Otherwise, we have to assume that the libations and chalk circles are her usual practice.
Dr Sex was an improperly summoned revenant, trying to go about things with limited time and capacity. He and Wake were haunting objects or possessing people or their remains because those were the limited courses of action available to them under their own steam.
My assumption, from the historical traditions of necromancy that Fifth practice draws on, is that when properly summoned, a revenant would take on some kind of bounded and temporary form that could be communicated with. I think that's very much what a Speaker to the Dead does - grant ghosts the temporary ability to communicate (in the Odyssey, it's the consumption of blood that grants them ability to speak and remember). A revenant possessing, say, their own hand bones or their old copy of The Little Office of the Blessed Cristabel Oct or whatever, might then be bound with wards and offered blood, and thus granted the ability to communicate, were an appropriately skilled necromancer available. Per the Odyssey, a cavalier with a sword might be useful here too.
So in an AU where Abigail spotted and summoned Wake's ghost in GTN, I'd assume this would involve communicating with a very pissed off bit of residual self image, carefully contained by wards. And very much, I suspect, a battle of wills.
I know there’s been a ton of discussion in the fam about Born in the Morning’s name but I have a theory! As anyone who has been reading my posts knows by now, this is kinda long-winded.
So I think his name is Chen, a Chinese name that signifies “born in the morning”. Literal translation would be like, “dawn” or “morning”. (I really hope I did the link correctly!)
Kid has so many fathers, right? Well, in Chinese from what I gather grandpa, parents, dad, and male relatives all have the same Chinese symbol in how they are written!
父 fù is the Chinese symbol for patriarch and the compound version is placed above other symbols to produce derivatives! I’m sure there are more than what I’ve listed below, but here are a few.
父亲, 爸爸, 爹, 爸 - Father or Dad
父母, 父母亲 - parents
岳父 - father in law, good-father
祖父母 - grandparents
祖父, 外祖父 - grandfather
舅父, 伯父 - uncle
教父 - godfather
“Born in the Morning, who was saddled with five fathers: Eldest Father, Second Eldest Father, Brother Father, Younger Brother Father, and New Father”
I’d assume these are all on his father’s side as Chinese naming conventions follow the paternal line (and much much more really cool info regarding male lineage!)
Eldest Father - Grandfather
Second Eldest Father - Father
Brother Father - Older Uncle
Younger Brother Father - Younger Uncle
New Father - Father’s New Husband???? (This one stumped me but sexual orientation rules are very evolved in TLT so this wouldn’t be a reach)
In the TLT universe, womb-vacs are available for citizens to use, I don’t think they’d be limited to the Nine Houses since they’re the ones to “Shepard” and take care of newly colonized planets. It’s entirely plausible that Born in the Morning’s family utilized womb-vacs with donated eggs and selected male chromosomes for the child they’d incubate, thus producing only males in their family. This is a fascinating possibility and one that theoretically could be replicated by other families with different variations. (I could go on about the possibilities womb-vacs could create, but I’ll shush for now. Ugh I love TLT so damn much!)
Back to the naming conventions of Father; if Nona is directly translating names from what the name means into House (which I think is assumed to be English) then if Born in the Morning is talking about his shúshu (叔叔) Nona would translate that to Younger Brother Father because she’d automatically add in all of the age and generational differences associated with that name. Which is fucking impressive as hell! As if being able to automatically translate all languages wasn’t impressive enough.
**I do not speak or read Chinese, I’m just going off what I read and dug into during this rabbit hole excursion. I hope I did okay, this was so much fun to work through! I love language!!! And adding in the different types of possible family dynamics made it even more fun! Any Chinese speaker feedback would be great!
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Why Didn't Ianthe use the First Key? (Or did she?) [Cancelled]
This post had actually a prodecessor I developed in a claustrophobic hotel room in Paris. But apparently, developing something in a claustrophobic hotel room in Paris is no garant for success... It was pretty much of a conspiracy theory. (Also, I just looked it up for the quotes, and... it looks as if I'd forgotten to insert them. Ooops!) But! Back to the theme! During her villain monolouge in GtN, Ianthe says this:
And... It strikes me as really odd... I mean, why? Why wouldn't she use at least the first key? And why would she ask Teacher for that key if she didn't intend to use it? I thought Ianthe would try to get in first before anyone else can and burn any bridges that need to be burned...
I mean, imagine you want to reach a goal very urgent, have a key to it, and... just don't use it. That doesn't make sense. Especially, since she is obviously interested in the information the rooms hold. That's why she's spying the others all the time. As far as I can see, there are two possible explanatations for that:
Ianthe DID use the key. I mean, as if she wouldn't use it as fast as she could. Unfortunately, she failed (like Harrow, at first) because she tried it alone and would've needed her cav for it. Therefore she gave up and started to sneak around instead. And since she can't just admit that in her great villain monolouge, she says "I didn't need your stupid keys, anyway! I haven't even tried it!" (Like a lying liar)
The first option is already very convincing to me... But there is another, which I find at least as much interesting... It is: Ianthe is afraid to to go into the cellar of Canaan House alone. We see her there only with others, after the murder of Magnus and Abigail. And it's not even unrealistic... Ianthe seems to know much more about the dangers of Canaan House than the others:
Is there anything in Canaan House, even Ianthe Tridentarius is scared of?
it's always so fascinating and heartbreaking when a character in a story is simultaneously idolized and abused. a chosen prophet destined for martyrdom. a child prodigy forced to grow up too fast. a powerful warrior raised as nothing but a weapon. there's just something so uniquely messed up about singing someone's praises whilst destroying them.
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I'm going crazy thinking about Pyrrha and Gideon and the permeability of souls. Bc what first tipped Palamedes off was a habit that he, the intrusive soul, picked up from Ianthe, the host. The osmosis doesn't just go one way. While Pyrrha's soul bled into Gideon, he was seeping into her, too.
Gideon wasn't an attack dog in John's recollection. He was steadfast and devoted, but he was an engineer moonlighting as a grill dad. Reminding John to put airholes in his bovine forcefield, then firing up the barbie to make sure everyone got fed. It was Pyrrha who carried a gun and wanted to hit back hard and fast. Pyrrha who advocated for a show of force.
How much of the Saint of Duty's bloody minded perseverence did Gideon get from Pyrrha, and how much was originally his? Would the Pyrrha of ten thousand years ago have stood at a stove on the eve of an apocalypse flipping pikelets for the kiddie, or is that something she picked up from Gideon?
Once again, Pent and Quinn are 5 in Greek and Latin respectively, which we all know is the pattern. NOW, first names are fun!
Abigail, meaning-wise is biblical. It shows up a couple times, as the name of the wife of Nabal and one of David's wives, and as the name of David's sister. Jewish Women's Archive describes Abigail (Nabal's wife) in this way
Abigail, the wife of Nabal of Carmel, is the only woman in the Hebrew Bible who is described as both intelligent and beautiful ... She is “of good sense and beautiful in looks,” while he is “hard and evil in his deeds” ... Alternatively, according to the written text he is just “like his heart” Later, the narrative recounts that “his heart died within him and he became like stone". Mean and inhospitable, he meets his fate, measure-for-measure, in the petrification of his hard heart. It accounts for Abigail’s motivation: why she intervenes secretly to provide a feast for David and his men without consulting her husband. In a subtle twist, she simultaneously saves her household and allies herself with David, eventually in matrimony when she is fortuitously widowed.
The things that feel noteworthy here are
A. Abigail being very defined by having a husband (But, in this case, her husband sucks)
B. Several mentions of the heart, which... they are the heart of the emperor!
and C. She's widowed!
Continuing down her story, we see some more stuff that feels of note
She further portends that God will establish a “sure house” for David, foreshadowing Nathan’s prophecy of an everlasting dynasty for the king. She ends her speech with a hint: “when the LORD has dealt well with my lord, then remember your handmaid”. David then praises her good sense and expresses gratitude that she restrained him from bloodshed, uttering an oath to counter the prior violent one
Every time I see the word "house" alarm bells start ringing. Anyway, an everlasting dynasty feels particularly familiar here. I mean, Abigail doesn't have all that much to do with Jod, but it still feels relevant to be drawing connections when I see them.
Based on her prescience, the Talmud identifies Abigail as one of the seven female prophets in the Hebrew Bible. More likely, she is keenly perceptive about the shifting tides of history.
Not anything extraordinary here, but the concept of Abigail being "keenly perceptive about the shifting tides of history" feels pretty accurate to our Abigail!
When Abigail returns home, she finds her husband drunk from feasting “like a king” and waits until the morning to tell him what she has done. His heart then strangely turns to stone and he dies ten days later, struck by “the Lord”. David, hearing that she has been widowed, sends for her. She obsequiously prostrates herself, calling David “lord” and herself “maidservant prepared to wash [his] servants’ feet”; though, ironically, she follows the messenger with five maids on donkeys in tow. She then becomes his wife
Feels like she's very defined by being people's wives. If anything, I feel like Magnus is the wife guy in TLT. But, again, we're seeing a whole lot of heart talk, which feels like it has to mean something. The whole point of this reread is rereading so I'm certain I'm missing things, but I never got the impression Abigail was all that zealous in her religion. I will say, I will be keeping an eye out for anything that really makes Abigail feel particularly Jod-sympathizing. In GTN, we don't really blink at people supporting the emperor outside of times where it really stands out, like the Eighth, but I do wanna watch out for Abigail mentioning the emperor at all. Just something to keep in mind.
Good old' Wikipedia describes her name as derived from the Hebrew word ab, "father", and the Hebrew root g-y-l, "to rejoice," Meaning it probably means "father's joy". Again, not all that sure how this relates to Abigail the character, but still gotta cover my bases.
Abigail's self-styling as a handmaid led to Abigail being a traditional term for a waiting-woman, for example as the waiting gentlewoman in Beaumont and Fletcher's The Scornful Lady, published in 1616
The aesthetic makes sense to me. Abigail is very gentlewoman in my eyes.
Nooo Magnus don't get your own post. Nooo don't make the fifth house like 4 different posts nooo Magnus
I promise I'm not just going to become a weird Reply Person to these posts, but you mentioned Abigail and religion, which are basically my two favourite TLT topics...
"I never got the impression Abigail was all that zealous in her religion. I will say, I will be keeping an eye out for anything that really makes Abigail feel particularly Jod-sympathizing."
My read is that Abigail is actually one of the more religious characters we meet, but that rather gets drowned out in the face of teenage cult leaders Harrow and Silas!
Her reflexive response to learning that others survived Canaan House is to murmur "the King over the River is good" (rather triggering poor Harrow, who has very much been having the 'The King over the River is awful' experience) and when it becomes clear to her that Ortus is hoping she will summon the ghost of Nonius ("Nigenad, you think too much of me!"), she is heard saying "Oh, God. God, please help me." Which makes her the only character other than Harrow who we see praying spontaneously.
Obviously Abigail has a somewhat complicated relationship with religion, openly acknowledging that some of her beliefs would be considered heretical in mainstream Joddism and specifically pointing out that Jod isn't omnipotent. But I don't think this is atheism - I think this is a sort of more 'progressive' or 'deconstructed' Joddism. She's a historian of the very earliest days of their civilisation, of the formation of the intertwined empire and religion of the Nine Houses. Her comment about Jod's lack of omnipotence isn't a denial of divinity - she's pointing out that while the religious hierarchy may consider her views heretical, they don't contradict the King Undying himself. She talks about John almost fondly, wishing she could send him her notes. And all this despite the fact that by that point in the story she knows exactly what a Lyctor is, and what she was summoned to Canaan House to do. Elsewhere, she says that the opportunity to come to Canaan House and see the place she had studied first hand meant almost more to her than the idea of serving the Emperor. I wouldn't go so far as to say that Abigail loves her god, but she's perhaps oddly fond of him, and very much recognises that properly understood, their faith entails metaphysics beyond him. Which, thematically, isn't all that far off from where we see Harrow at the end of NTN - recognising John's limitations and the need to explore the metaphysical reality beyond him. But unlike Harrow, she doesn't have the full context for just how awful this guy is. I'm so curious as to whether we'll see her again in ATN, and what she might know by then... (she does promise to return to her 'homeland' when summoning Nonius, which is a direct reference to the Odyssey, but also has some interesting implications in light of the whole saving her house thing in the Biblical narrative).
"Good old' Wikipedia describes her name as derived from the Hebrew word ab, "father", and the Hebrew root g-y-l, "to rejoice," Meaning it probably means "father's joy". Again, not all that sure how this relates to Abigail the character, but still gotta cover my bases."
This is at least incidentally funny, as Abigail canonically has an unspecified number of mothers. So assuming whatever flesh magic tech is going on with the vat wombs involves some kind of gametogenesis, Abigail literally doesn't have a father.
I would love nothing more than for you to become a weird reply person to these posts. I LOVE a reply to my posts. Regardless, this is super interesting! It's easy to think about Jod worship in terms of Silas and Harrow's complete zealotry, or even in smaller parts like Ianthe's... Ianthe-ness towards Jod or the 2nd house's military dedication to the emperor, and especially with a POV character like Gideon (who is not particularly interested in the whole religion of the matter), for more subtly religious characters to slip under the radar. I never noticed Abigail being particularly forthright with her religion but seeing this puts some stuff in perspective. Yeah, I'm absolutely keeping an eye out. This also raises some interesting points for her character in general. Did Cytherea's whole thing not raise any red flags for her? Or did she just incorporate that into her belief of God's non-omnipotence. So juicy. There's so many characters I feel like I never can get the full picture on, and the Fifth house was never like, my primary focus on the first read-through (just because there was so much going on lol) but doing this reread is REALLY cluing me in to how much complexity there is in all of them. Just wait for the analysis posts when I get to Harrow the Ninth 😅
Also Abigail "Oops all moms" being named "Father's Joy" feels like an intentional Tamsyn Muir jab. That's funny.
Once again, Pent and Quinn are 5 in Greek and Latin respectively, which we all know is the pattern. NOW, first names are fun!
Abigail, meaning-wise is biblical. It shows up a couple times, as the name of the wife of Nabal and one of David's wives, and as the name of David's sister. Jewish Women's Archive describes Abigail (Nabal's wife) in this way
Abigail, the wife of Nabal of Carmel, is the only woman in the Hebrew Bible who is described as both intelligent and beautiful ... She is “of good sense and beautiful in looks,” while he is “hard and evil in his deeds” ... Alternatively, according to the written text he is just “like his heart” Later, the narrative recounts that “his heart died within him and he became like stone". Mean and inhospitable, he meets his fate, measure-for-measure, in the petrification of his hard heart. It accounts for Abigail’s motivation: why she intervenes secretly to provide a feast for David and his men without consulting her husband. In a subtle twist, she simultaneously saves her household and allies herself with David, eventually in matrimony when she is fortuitously widowed.
The things that feel noteworthy here are
A. Abigail being very defined by having a husband (But, in this case, her husband sucks)
B. Several mentions of the heart, which... they are the heart of the emperor!
and C. She's widowed!
Continuing down her story, we see some more stuff that feels of note
She further portends that God will establish a “sure house” for David, foreshadowing Nathan’s prophecy of an everlasting dynasty for the king. She ends her speech with a hint: “when the LORD has dealt well with my lord, then remember your handmaid”. David then praises her good sense and expresses gratitude that she restrained him from bloodshed, uttering an oath to counter the prior violent one
Every time I see the word "house" alarm bells start ringing. Anyway, an everlasting dynasty feels particularly familiar here. I mean, Abigail doesn't have all that much to do with Jod, but it still feels relevant to be drawing connections when I see them.
Based on her prescience, the Talmud identifies Abigail as one of the seven female prophets in the Hebrew Bible. More likely, she is keenly perceptive about the shifting tides of history.
Not anything extraordinary here, but the concept of Abigail being "keenly perceptive about the shifting tides of history" feels pretty accurate to our Abigail!
When Abigail returns home, she finds her husband drunk from feasting “like a king” and waits until the morning to tell him what she has done. His heart then strangely turns to stone and he dies ten days later, struck by “the Lord”. David, hearing that she has been widowed, sends for her. She obsequiously prostrates herself, calling David “lord” and herself “maidservant prepared to wash [his] servants’ feet”; though, ironically, she follows the messenger with five maids on donkeys in tow. She then becomes his wife
Feels like she's very defined by being people's wives. If anything, I feel like Magnus is the wife guy in TLT. But, again, we're seeing a whole lot of heart talk, which feels like it has to mean something. The whole point of this reread is rereading so I'm certain I'm missing things, but I never got the impression Abigail was all that zealous in her religion. I will say, I will be keeping an eye out for anything that really makes Abigail feel particularly Jod-sympathizing. In GTN, we don't really blink at people supporting the emperor outside of times where it really stands out, like the Eighth, but I do wanna watch out for Abigail mentioning the emperor at all. Just something to keep in mind.
Good old' Wikipedia describes her name as derived from the Hebrew word ab, "father", and the Hebrew root g-y-l, "to rejoice," Meaning it probably means "father's joy". Again, not all that sure how this relates to Abigail the character, but still gotta cover my bases.
Abigail's self-styling as a handmaid led to Abigail being a traditional term for a waiting-woman, for example as the waiting gentlewoman in Beaumont and Fletcher's The Scornful Lady, published in 1616
The aesthetic makes sense to me. Abigail is very gentlewoman in my eyes.
Nooo Magnus don't get your own post. Nooo don't make the fifth house like 4 different posts nooo Magnus
A battle to see if I can actually get to the book at this point, but man... I do love to dive into the houses! y'know how it is. Back on the topic of the fifth house!
Alright, so we sure did look into that heart thing..
.. a while ago, but, always be with the knowledge that no matter how long I break for, the analysis gears go marching on. Now, if I could finish these analyses before ATN...
regardless! We're gonna SOLVE Koniortos court, and then make our way to the sixth ! (hopefully, within this one day, but who knows how the wind blows.)
My good buddy, a google search ending in "meaning" garnered me
raised dust, flying dust
as a meaning for "Koniortos" and that it's deemed this within the bible
so okay, boom, step one of finding what that means is done. The bigger questions is HOW it means. (<- pretend I made sense here)
So, where's dust used IN the bible?
Well, again, my friend "biblestudytools.com" comes in clutch, and we can find some results for usage there.
Dr. Miall Edwards leaves me with a handful of leads, which in turn I leave for you, my readers, to enjoy at your leisure!
Now, a couple things really stick out to me here! first off, "(Genesis 3:19 - Dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return)" sets some things off for me. Edwards says that this is used figuratively for the grave, or mortality, which really fits here in my opinion. I mean, we know they're specifically speakers to the soul, to that dust! Unlike many of the other necromantic specialties, which deal with the matter, the fifth deals mainly with that mind (the sixth house would be offended if they weren't so busy carbon-dating things)
Also, probably not very vital, but we do see a Paul reference! Casting dust in the air to express their wrath against him, which. I feel like I am stretching a little, but I could see something about going against the natural order of lyctorhood resulting in some sort of rage against Paul, primarily from Jod? I mean I assume he would be a little pissed off at any tainting of his perfect lyctorhood, seeing how he talks about any other half-baked or imperfect lyctor (Anastasia deserved better!!!)
Now, the first half of this drafted post has been sitting in waiting for...... a really long time. and I had HOPED to keep the 5th house analysis to just 2 posts but we're looking like we might need a third to get to their names! But, hopefully absence makes the heart (<- hehe) grow fonder, and we will all appreciate the return of my elaborate TLT meta posts. If only!
"Koniortos" is a fun name choice, because while there are also all sorts of evocative meanings, it's also entirely descriptive: the Koniortos Court is an installation in the atmosphere of or in orbit around Jupiter.
The Fifth can be fairly straightforwardly assumed to be Jupiter:
Fifth poetry is very much I come from climes of sulphur gas/I shine in plasma sheet/Er-hem-er-hem-er-hem, surpass/My spot a crimson feat
Abigail was born "at" the Koniortos Court, which seems to the preposition used for installations in the Cohort Intelligence Files, ane she talks about her windowless childhood bedroom with specially reinforced desk for sheltering from zonal jets, which are a feature of the Jovine atmosphere.
But like the other gas giants, Jupiter also has rings, made of fine dust particles trapped by its massive magnetic field.
This is both super relevant and something I super missed! Always the stuff thats obvious that I look over lol...
Of all the things to keep track of in TLT, I almost always fail to remember that the houses are the actual planets! But the fifth's relation to dust makes doubly sense when it's because they're literally hanging around on a dust ring.
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the locked tomb x homer: a not particularly comprehensive guide that no one asked for put together by a brain-fried uni finalist and it's all probably already been said but whatever
(previously discussed by me here (insane diagram linking everything) and here (paris, hector, gideon))
(sorry 4 dodgy photo editing... tried to add Visual Interest but. well. graphic design is my passion dot jpeg)