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Over twenty years ago my big brother got me a job at a Taco Bell in the St. Louis suburbs-West County. He warned me that it was the “gay Taco Bell”, but since I was coming from the “gay Howard Johnson’s” I wasn’t shocked. It turns out it was the black trans women Taco Bell complete with black trans women in management. And they’d worked out an arrangement with the local teen Narcotics Anonymous group so that twice a week we would shut down the drive thru and the dining room and exclusively serve 60+ teens in various stages of recovery. And many of the women I worked with were in various stages of being out or transitioning and they were from all generations from teens to over 50. One woman I worked with had a regular corporate job presenting as a man 9-5 Mon-Fri and then came to Taco Bell and worked 6pm -2am Friday and Saturday night so she could be herself surrounded by other black transwomen in those stolen weekends. And we had customers come from all over the metro area because they knew they could be themselves in the dining room. I only worked there from 1999-2001 but for young me, this was a vital, formative experience. Some of the girls came from north city all the way out to the “gay Taco Bell” on Manchester in west county because they heard it was safe to work there. Like- I know times have changed but they haven’t changed much in 20 years. I’m still convinced that for lgbt youth, finding a job at your city’s version of the “gay Taco Bell” is key to survival.
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Happy mothers day to the unnamed washerwoman who was already poor and still took in an extra mouth to feed because Binghe was homeless. She suffered humiliation at the hands of her employers but still worked hard and denied herself any comfort to save enough money to give Luo Binghe something valuable.
Evidence for why Binghe knew that Shen Qingqiu was not Shen Jiu after Sha Hualing's Invasion
Aka, why did MXTX write in her new extras that Binghe knew so soon?
This has been on my mind for awhile now after seeing people be upset about the new extras "rewriting bingqiu's relationship" and such. That was quite surprising to me because I had thought for years now that Luo Binghe knew that the new Shen Qingqiu was not Shen Jiu. The new extras really just confirmed my interpretation, much to my delight.
I hadn't necessarily thought that he knew this early on, especially since he hinted as such during the Holy Mausoleum arc that he knew that something was strange about Shen Qingqiu, but reading back I can see what mxtx was getting at. Her subtle hints were a bit too subtle early on, and since they left unconfirmed by the end of the original extras, I can see why she felt the need to have Luo Binghe confirm that he knew Shen Yuan wasn't the original Shen Qingqiu.
I'll be using my copies of the 7seas translation of SVSSS from Felicity. I'm not going to be referencing the new extras from here on. I also will not be using screenshots of the text and will instead be directly quoting or summarizing scenes if they are too long, mostly for accessibility reasons and because I am writing this on my computer. I'll cut out things that don't really matter, but I've included page numbers for if you want to read back and get the full context.
OOC
At the start of SVSSS, the System introduces a concept called the OOC lock for out of character actions. Until Shen Qingqiu can complete a "beginner-level quest to unfreeze it," he is bound to act like the original Shen Qingqiu. The System warns him repeatedly before he acts out of character, going as far to say that Shen Qingqiu would stand by and smile as Luo Binghe is beat or join in on the beating himself.
For each true violation of the OOC lock, he is deducted B-points, the only currency keeping him from being sent back to his original world. He only loses points when he takes an action that others notice is OOC and can attribute to him.
The first time he violates the OOC lock, he loses 70 B-points in rapid succession, ten for each sharpened flying leaf he sends to cut Ming Fan and the other bullies.
The only person to notice these OOC actions is Luo Binghe.
Meanwhile, outside the forest, Luo Binghe had already left the back of the mountain, and he slowly unclenched his fist.
Lying in his palm was a whole green leaf. Its edges were sharp and stained with blood.
- SVSSS 7seas Book 1 page 48
Because of the trenches Shen Qingqiu left from his training, Luo Binghe and Ning Yingying knew that Shen Qingqiu had been nearby. Luo Binghe is the only one out of the group shown to have realized what cut the bullies, the sharpened leaves. Shen Qingqiu is punished with point deductions because Luo Binghe knew he was acting out of character by protecting him.
The next point deduction comes after Ning Yingying "convinces" Shen Qingqiu to let Luo Binghe ride in the carriage with him, an action that he has to argue with the System is not OOC because, "Shen Qingqiu would never do anything to alleviate Luo Binghe's troubles." Shen Qingqiu loses B-points for the simple action of smiling at Luo Binghe.
The paragraphs before the point deduction offer us a look into Luo Binghe's mind. He's still under the impression that Shen Qingqiu is as bad as he's ever been, and he's surprised that he is being left alone. He even takes this moment to examine Shen Qingqiu, which stirs some uncertain feelings in him.
To tell the truth, it would have been a lie to say that Luo Binghe wasn't surprised. Even though he'd always revered Shen Qingqiu, he had no illusions about how his master treated and looked at him.
At first, he'd thought that if Shen Qingqiu asked him to get in the carriage, there must be something even more terrible waiting for him within, and he'd mentally prepared himself for it. He hadn't expected Shen Qingqiu to not bother with him at all, instead focusing only on himself as he began to meditate.
...when not fixed in a cold scowl, it [his face] became gentle and bright...
...He quickly averted his gaze and became increasingly awkward, unsure of what he was feeling
- pages 59-61
After arriving at the manor and meeting Old Man Chen and Die-er, Shen Qingqiu spends the evening locked up in his room because the System insists that, "the original Shen Qingqiu liked quiet and would be unwilling to mingle."
After Ning Yingying gets kidnapped and Luo Binghe retrieves his Shizun, Shen Qingqiu then loses 50 B-points due to being captured and half-striped by the Skinner demon. This is also when Luo Binghe gets his world rocked by seeing Shen Qingqiu tied up in red ropes. Since this plot isn't in PIDW and the System declared Shen Qingqiu getting captured OOC, we can assume that this doesn't happen to the original goods. This is a SY as SQQ special.
I don't want to quote the whole thing here, especially after that large chunk above, but give pages 76-77 a read to witness dear Bingmei's awakening sexuality.
Luo Binghe stared in disbelief. He wondered bleakly if Shen Qingqiu's hatred for him had truly become to great.
But if that were the case, why had his master been just a little nicer to him on their trip to the city?
- page 79
A bit obvious, but Luo Binghe definitely picked up on Shen Qingqiu treating him nicer.
...Luo Binghe stared, unmoving, at the fallen Die-er in a puzzled silence.
- page 81
Although it didn't initiate a OOC lock strike, the perfectly normal beam falling from the ceiling was incredibly unnatural. Luo Binghe knows that something supernatural happened here because of Shen Qingqiu, who tricked Die-er into targeting him.
After this the OOC lock violation and Die-er is defeated, Shen Qingqiu is free to act as OOC as he wants.
Special Treatment
"If this disciple could give up his life for Shizun, it would be an honor."
...
"This master will promise you in kind," ... "Even if an accident befalls this master, no misfortune will come to you."
...
When Luo Binghe heard these words, it was as if his life force had been ignited. The sunflower that had begun to wilt revived, full of renewed vigor.
- page 84
Although it is left unsaid, I think that this is the moment where Luo Binghe really started to believe that Shen Qingqiu might not be the original goods. They had just defeated the imposter Skinner demon, and for the first time, Shen Qingqiu is acting outwardly proud and protective of him. No more hiding in trees or flimsy excuses for medicine: THIS is the new Shen Qingqiu, dedicated to ensuring that no misfortune comes to Luo Binghe.
Before entering seclusion, Shen Qingqiu makes sure that Luo Binghe has a new cultivation manual.
"Why is Shizun giving this disciple a completely different manual?"
...
As he stared after Shen Qingqiu's retreating back, Luo Binghe held that manual in both hands, his heart profoundly shaken.
Shizun had specially given this manual only to him!
...
He didn't know what Luo Binghe was thinking, but the boy was almost certainly thinking too much.
- pages 87-88
Shen Qingqiu giving Luo Binghe a new manual is yet another sign that the man has changed, and from that last sentence, we can guess that he was connecting the dots to the larger picture. Two manuals, the first given to him through Ming Fan with all the rest, the second special for him. He is clearly being treated differently.
Confirmation
Next up is the demon invasion. Shen Qingqiu has just come out of seclusion, Sha Hualing is here to make trouble, you know what's up.
Throughout the fight between Shen Qingqiu and Elder One Arm, Luo Binghe is continually amazed at how incredible Shen Qingqiu is, internally complimenting how strong he is alongside the other disciples.
And while Sha Hualing and Liu Mingyan are fighting, Shen Qingqiu keeps glancing at Luo Binghe.
Luo Binghe found it very hard not to care about that gaze. Why exactly did Shen Qingqiu keep looking at him? Was it possible that Shizun...really had an interest in him?
- page 112
Next, Shen Qingqiu is forced by the System to send in Luo Binghe to fight Elder Sky Hammer. And of course, at first, Luo Binghe is terrified out of his mind, and his fighting skills suffer for it. But then-
"He will win," Shen Qingqiu said lightly.
...
That meant that Shizun would only have chosen Luo Binghe for this match if he really did firmly believe he would win!
Thus did Student Luo Binghe's colorful imagination successfully activate the Massive Fog of Misunderstandings System.
No one had ever believed in him like this. If only because he'd been entrusted with something so vitally important, he absolutely had to win and make everyone see!
- pages 117-119
And then Luo Binghe defeats Elder Sky Hammer within an hour.
The "Misunderstandings System" mentioned here is referencing that Luo Binghe attributed Shen Qingqiu's decision to send him in against Elder Sky Hammer solely because of his belief in him. Except, Shen Qingqiu was mainly motivated by the System into doing so. Same later with sending Luo Binghe into the Endless Abyss, not saying anything in the Water Prison, etc.
Notably, Shen Qingqiu's confidence in him is something entirely new to the current Shen Qingqiu. As shown before, Luo Binghe was well aware of how his old Shizun thought of him, and he knew that something had changed since the Skinner mission. With some hindsight and those early clues, he could now reason that the change had happened sometime around when he first received that bottle of medicine.
Luo Binghe never felt like he was "proving" himself with winning this fight, just that he was living up to his Shizun's expectations.
Luo Binghe stared at the teal-clothed back before him, having forgotten to even say thanks. He only knew his master had saved him once again.
Shizun was always like this. He would seem to be harsh on Luo Binghe, yet when it came down to the critical moment, he always stood before his student.
- page 122
While some may try to claim that Luo Binghe calling him harsh here means that he is still staunchly under the impression that his Shizun hasn't changed, I really think this is Luo Binghe starting to make the distinction between them in his mind already. "...he always stood before his student," when did Shen Jiu ever protect him? The Shizun he's referring to is the current one, who has protected him over and over now. The medicine bottle, the leaves in the forest, the carriage ride, the skinner demon, and now Elder Sky Hammer - all of these things were done by the current Shen Qingqiu.
Upon hearing the description of Without a Cure, Luo Binghe's lips trembled. In this moment, all the wrong Shen Qingqiu had committed against him in the past were wiped clean from his heart.
- page 127
This act of selflessness truly confirmed to Luo Binghe that this person was not the original Shen Qingqiu. It's well established that the og Shen Qingqiu cared a lot about his cultivation and catching up to his fellow peak lords. Having his Shizun sacrifice his cultivation and health like this, for a disciple he mistreated as much as Luo Binghe? Clearly this is someone else.
Luo Binghe doesn't know how or why it happened. Maybe Shen Qingqiu lost memories during a qi deviation like the other peak lords think, and that drastically changed his personality. Maybe Luo Binghe takes some inspiration from the Skinner demon and realizes that someone replacing another without needing to change skins so often is a possibility in this world. We don't know how he rationalizes it, but this sacrifice is enough for Luo Binghe to metaphorically wash his Shizun's sins clean in his mind.
These first two chapters, in regards to the relationship between the new Shen Qingqiu and Luo Binghe, have all been about establishing that this Shen Qingqiu is not out to abuse Luo Binghe. We see the start of Luo Binghe beginning to open up and trust Shen Qingqiu. With the demon invasion fight, Luo Binghe completely forgives his Shizun, and in the next chapter we have him making unending congee and moving into the Bamboo House.
Luo Binghe's Mind
"Originally, this disciple was under the impression that Shizun didn't care about him at all. Only after the third match did I understand what painstaking efforts Shizun had put in."
...
All that past mistreatment and abuse, completely forgotten because he'd saved Luo Binghe once? Weren't these favor points a little too easy to farm?
To no one's surprise, he was unable to understand the course of Luo Binghe's thoughts, with their hundreds and thousands of twists and turns.
...
He still didn't understand in the slightest. Bing-ge, what exactly did you realize?
- pages 136-137
Luo Binghe was apologizing for thinking ill of the new Shen Qingqiu, who he realized had been secretly putting in effort to help him for quite awhile now. Shen Qingqiu picks up that Luo Binghe is forgiving "him" too easily for all the abuse the protagonist suffered under "his" hands, and yet both his internal monologue and the narration imply that Luo Binghe has come to a conclusion that Shen Qingqiu does not understand.
Luo Binghe isn't forgiving him for abusing him because he saved his life once. He's forgiving him for thinking that he was the other guy. Because yeah, years of abuse isn't going to be forgiven that easily,
Meng Mo chuckled. "I saw your memories, boy. This master of yours does not treat you well. Why not just let me get rid of him? I would be going you a favor."
The memories Meng Mo had looked at were mostly those of the interactions between the original Shen Qingqiu and Luo Binghe. Those memories were indeed the greatest in number, but...
Luo Binghe shook his head, "Shizun isn't like you say, Senior."
...
For my sake, Shizun blocked two attacks meant for me. His goodwill is genuine.
- pages 170-171
That "but..." is pretty load bearing. Luo Binghe isn't considering the previous Shen Qingqiu as his Shizun at all anymore.
Conclusion
I've spent a long time making this post. I could go through all of SVSSS arguing my points, but I'm going to stop here partway through chapter 3. I hope that, if it hasn't convinced you that Luo Binghe knew that Shen Qingqiu wasn't the original, it at least showed that he knew that Shen Qingqiu had substantially changed. Luo Binghe goes through an arc at the start of SVSSS. He starts with being suspicious and wary of Shen Qingqiu, well aware of the mistreatment he's faced by Shen Jiu. Through his time with the new Shen Qingqiu, he gradually becomes aware that something has changed within his Shizun through the goodwill he is shown. By chapter 3, his outlook has completely changed, and he is fiercely loyal. Shen Qingqiu's continual support and trust in him came out of nowhere, but he eagerly accepts the change and returns it with deep loyalty and eagerness to return that selflessness in kind.
Okay! this is not their reference as i would've loved to do (bc i like procrastinating my own drawings with other drawings of the same damn thing okay) Anyways some lore:
Tenna's biggest changes comes from his lack of Parental Controls (which grounds him): His "family friendly" persona comes with a lot of repression and censorship and that makes him his unstable, eager to please version we see on deltarune. On the contrary, Showman!Tenna's pragmatic and serious approach in life.
Other change he sees from being free of locks is having a much stronger control over his realm; TV World becomes his sandbox to mold to his liking and manipulate to a new level which he isn't used to. This inadvertently makes him more powerful than his Deltarune counterpart (try fighting the god of a world kinda shii). And with the added problem of his physical form suffering bigger changes as the inability to hide his fangs, claws, and tail. He can still change sizes but it's much more prominent when he's angry or upset (instead as when he's happy or excited).
Tenna, as a Showman, has a "On stage" persona that's bubbly, loud and carefree; he will appear as a very open and energetic man until you meet him. But! He's still nice... just a little more difficult to manage...
Tenna rejects censors -> It's very important to note, In Freakshow! he interacts with the rejected by darkner's society: He connects with the broken and the weird, not only because he ends up working with a lot of them (spamton and other cases) but ALSO because of his own situation and fears (u know, classical Tenna shenanigans). That way his strong ties with darkners of this type and Spamton gives him a sense of self he on the contrary would lack of and making him someone who's willing to break the rules to protect his own, with this new eye-opening knowledge he builds different standards and ethics on TVWorld. The censors go against most of what he wants to do, or how he wants to help the ones abandoned by lightners (or other darkners), all this ultimately makes him reject his past desires to center his whole existence entirely to the Lightners (and to entertain them).
This new rebellious Tenna resonates deeply with Spamton and his relationship with him is HUGELY different... WHICH I WILL EXPAND ON IN FUTURE DRAWINGS I SWEAR. I'm still building this baby up!!!
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I LOVE HIM HE'S MY SON MY BABY *cough cough* anyways some lore:
If u can't read (bc i don't know how to use Tumblr haha) Here's the lore dump for today:
Spamton has a more unhinged personality (Has he compensates for Tenna's lack of mania). During his big shot era he SUCKED at sales, and everything business related —But was actually really good with his hands! (pun intended— So even with his Benefactor's help he's just... Terrible.
He's just THAT bad okay? And didn't understand what was wrong with him or his ads. What he didn't see because he was delusional is: he had inherent disadvantages, his personality was a shit for advertisement (too pushy, didn't know limits and runned his mouth like his life depended on it), his height, his looks and— actually everything! He was faulty, but never gave up and tried his hand with the influence The Phone gave him: Ultimately meeting Tenna.
Also the dude had NO FILTER whatsoever -> Tenna discovers him and his deep secret in like,, a week.
The only thing The Phone does is keep the rates high, so he's quite obvious about the whole "I'm a fraud" thing (At first, Tenna doesn't fire him because even with all his deceptions Spamton brings the Ratings higher than ever. Later is because he's the heart of the whole FreakShow Hour and he started to like him— romantically speaking.)
His nature as a Spam Mail makes him undesirable and even with his Benefactor, his stage presence unnerves the viewers... Which should've been a signal to remove him from the stage but Tenna finds him deeply endearing, even MORE after they started working as Co-stars. as you see they hit it off quite well huh
After his initial deal with Tenna, he quite stops leaving TV World, and after becoming a puppet he gets cut out from it completely -> Making him unreachable until Chapter 3 (sorry hoes, we don't get Sneo in this AU... or do we) thought there's references to him on CyberCity!
-AAAand that's all i have for now, i have some stuff for Showman!Tenna but first i need some drawings to keep you all entertained while i make this!
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