Katia Nusakan

Eridian Doctor: We went through the human genome and found a bunch of places with old broken DNA repair mechanisms so we came up with a gene editing therapy that fixes them in order to extend your lifespan.

Grace: *flashbacks to when Rocky found out that humans can experience long term effects from lower doses of radiation exposure and Grace wasn't being as careful as he should have been back when they first met because he still thought this was gonna be a suicide mission*

Grace (internally): Oh, so cancer prevention! Got it!

Grace: Sounds good!

*like 100 years later*

Grace: Hey Rocky, how am I not dead yet?

For context he just got back from a late show or smth.. (fun fact uhh this was supposed to be a doodle but then I suddenly had the ability to render 😃)

Not to me personally. I can see why some people headcanon Lucifer as autistic, and I considered the possibility with Alastor, but neither of them give me the same "there is definitely something going on here" vibe.

Like, Vox is pretty obvious once you notice, because there usually isn't an alternative explanation for his behavior. His monologuing approach to conversations shows up in multiple contexts, with both friends and enemies, so it's not (always) him trying to control the interaction. That's just how he socializes. Same for his inconsistent eye contact, use of non-communicative gestures, and inappropriate social touch. Even if it's intentional sometimes, he's doing it all the time, and with everyone. Throw in the stimming and sensory seeking, which he also does all the time, and his limited interest in close relationships, and he easily clears the behavioral criteria.

In Lucifer's case, social skills degrade if you don't use them, and he's been isolating for a long time (and that isolation can be better explained by depression and a shortage of people he wants to interact with than by an overall lack of interest in socializing). So even as awkward as he is, to me his interactions with others just read like he's been alone for far too long. And aside from his fixation with ducks, he doesn't seem to meet any of the non-social criteria (in fairness, he's only been a major part of two episodes, and only has a scene or two in most others he appears in).

Then with Alastor, it's like... If you interpret his touch aversion as being sensory, and his refusal to change with the times as rigid thinking, you could meet the non-social criteria. But I don't think he meets any of the social criteria, because all of his behaviors could be explained as something else.

He isn't close with many people, but we don't know if it's because he isn't interested in relationships, or if it's trust issues and/or trauma (his reaction to Vox calling them friends suggests the latter, but it could also be both). He makes little effort to relate to or connect emotionally with people, but we don't know if it's because he doesn't care or because he doesn't want to care (again, evidence suggests the latter). He does make less eye contact and grander gestures when he's putting on a performance or trying to get a reaction out of people, and he does touch people inappropriately when he's manipulating or mocking them. But otherwise his use of gesture and eye contact is comparable to the other characters', and considering the context, he probably knows he shouldn't touch people that way.

I find it to be a sad, but unsurprising side effect of the ways people interpret his character and the stereotypes they apply to him, as well as a stereotype in its own right. And arguably the single biggest disservice done to his character by the fandom (I am not joking).

Creativity is a trait normally attributed to people who are rebellious, absentminded, sensitive, colorful, and expressive with their physical appearance and environment. Some interpretations of Vox might hit one or two of those, but for the most part he's treated as a Serious Businessman who only wears suits and is entirely focused on the real world. If he does have a creative outlet, it's something practical and tech-based like coding or electrical engineering. And of course, the most disparaging takes will outright say he's incapable of creativity because he just steals from and copies others.

Canon Vox doesn't really fit the creative stereotype either, especially when compared to the other Vees. He's the most business-minded, the one scolding the other two for rocking the boat, and the one who's rarely seen in flashy outfits. Where the other two have decked out their rooms with plants and hearts and comfortable furnishings, his rooms are tidy and minimalistic. And compared to Valentino in particular, who is explicitly a skilled artist and does fit the sentimental, absentminded stereotype to an extent (an extent that is pretty much limited to the other Vees, but still), Vox tries to keep people at arm's length and tends to come across as pretty goal-oriented.

The thing is. When you go in and divide the Vees into the Creative and Artsy Ones and the Boring Tech Guy. You are losing yet another thing Vox isn't insecure about.

Again, Valentino is a skilled artist, in multiple mediums, and Velvette is a professional designer (we haven't seen any of her drawn work, but there's a drafting table in her room). Meanwhile, Vox is a perfectionist who clearly enjoys creative pursuits, but is very much not as advanced as they are. He has every reason to hide the fact that he draws at all, never mind letting them see the results. But not only is he presenting his own art without fear of judgement, he's presenting imperfect work.

If you look at the right side of the rainbow on his drawing of the hotel crew, you will notice a random white patch that doesn't match the rest of the background. This would be a result of drawing on paper with something that doesn't erase, then deciding you want to change it. In this case, it seems like the rainbow was probably drawn over the hotel, and Vox didn't like how it looked. So he then used white to cover up everything behind the rainbow. But since it's a different shade of white than the paper, it isn't a subtle fix. It shows.

And he left it that way! Not only did he not redraw it, he still included it in his presentation and showed it to his professionally artistic friends.

Like. Fanon Vox does tech stuff. He codes or messes with electronics, with no competition from the other Vees, and he's good at it. He has to be good at it, because if he's not, it's not perfect.

Canon Vox makes collages with clippings that still have parts of the background attached, and draws pictures with big white blotches in the middle. He lets himself make things that aren't perfect, with physical materials that don't have an undo button, just because he likes doing it.

I repeat: Fanon Vox does tech stuff with no competition from his friends. Canon Vox draws, which his friends are better at. His sin on Earth was envy, which led him to kill people. His fatal flaw is that he always wants more than what he has. Yet here he is, engaging in something those closest to him do at a higher skill level, and enjoying it for its own sake. There is no compulsion to be better than them, or to sabotage them to make himself feel better, or even to hide the flaws in his own work. It doesn't matter if he's not the best, or if it's not perfect. He just likes doing it.

In a small, inconsequential, but very real way, he is acting against his sin by indulging his creative side for fun. And when he has a hobby that's different from the other Vees, which doesn't pose a threat to his ego and has no reason to wake his darkest impulses, he loses that.

also holy fuck this took me nearly 37 hours

I guess what I mean is do you think he would, for example, project eyelashes/eyeliner onto his screen, swap his trousers for a skirt/dress, making his voice more feminine, etc? I just really like the idea of genderqueer vox actually getting to act/dress/sound a little more feminine just to see if it suits him. Maybe he decides it’s not for him, or maybe he ends up actually liking it, either way just the idea of him accepting this part of himself and exploring it.

Idk I really enjoy your unique take on Vox (I prefer it to fanon Vox) so I just wondered what your thoughts would be on this. No pressure to answer!

Oh, absolutely. His choice of clothes, at least, is conscious, so him wearing sharper heels than is typical for men already suggests a willingness to experiment. And if he's gonna copy Charlie's voice and features in front of other people without the slightest hint of discomfort, I see no reason why he'd balk at messing around with his own if he wanted to. I don't think he'd even feel that weird about it, considering he could have stopped mimicking Charlie before turning back to the room and he didn't.

(As an aside, I don't really like the eyes on most versions of fem!Vox, but he kinda pulls it off when he's imitating Charlie. So I am of the opinion that we need more depictions that go big with the lashes, especially if they're trying to match the show's style).

I could more easily see him experimenting with skirts than dresses, because they can be paired with clothing we already know he likes (shirts, vests, etc), and he could easily retain his usual look for business settings by swapping his suit jacket for a blazer. But dress or skirt, I think he'd be picky about the style, for the simple reason that he's very active. If he can't move freely, including all the jumping around he does, I don't think he'd be comfortable wearing it.

That said, it is almost impossible to find examples of anything I could see him wearing. This is literally all I've been able to find, after multiple searches, and I am this close to saying fuck it and drawing something. Because this is not the first time I've talked about what kind of feminine clothing he might be willing to wear, and not having actual examples for something as simple as a skirt is killing me.

Luckily for him, his best friend is a clothing designer, and she's familiar with how he moves. If he did want to experiment, she'd be able to help find something that works for him (unlike my search engine, which is no help at all).

Hellavua Dads! Hope the Hellaverse can crossover at some point, we'd love to see Lucifer and Blitz meet.

This was supposed to be a short doodle and spiraled into a full 13 page comic ahaha

Eva Stratt, meanwhile, is a stain. Graffiti tucked away in alleys and under bridges, forever painted over by the powers that be. A name meant to be forgotten. Stratt has always known this was part of the deal: after all, humanity needs a villain just as much as it needs its heroes. The best she can hope for is to be erased entirely on Earth.

We've all been trying to parse out what these two could be alluding to in this moment. This was a different jab from Alastor than the normal "You're weak and pathetic" and Vox's response is very different from his normal crashing out as well. As a matter of fact, for once, Vox doesn't rise to Alastor's baiting. It's clear what Al said got under his skin, but he instead gave a flippant affirmation for a response, instead of his usual defensivness. It's what makes this scene so jarring for both of them. Though, again, it's clear the jab did hit its mark by the look on Vox's face when he turns around and walks away (and Alastor knows it)

So... what gives?

I think it's a callback to their initial falling out, when Alastor laughs Vox out of the pub for daring to suggest they could be partners.

Now, we've all had our takes on Alastor's reaction to Vox's pitch. A lot of people think Alastor took it as a threat that if Vox was asking for a partnership, then he'd be targeting him next; others think it was a knee-jerk reaction of someone actually getting too close to him; and others think it was Alastor lashing out for Vox daring to disappoint him. Whatever his reasoning, it resultes in Vox NOT taking his rejection well, obviously.

But... what happened after that? What's the next correlating moment as a follow up to Alastor's cruelty? Did Vox lash out? Did he storm out? Did they have their first brawl? Did Vox swear he'd prove Alastor wrong? Who knows (hopefuly later seasons will reveal more on these two). But, regardless... what if Vox came back after that? Tried to make ammends? Tried to apologize, or tried to explain himself, and reaffirm to Alastor that his offer wasn't one of exploitation, or - god forbid - necessity, but of genuine companionship to benefit them both? What if he tried to plead with Alastor to reconsider?

And Alastor just point blank didn't believe him?

What if he took everything Vox was saying as 'excuses' and 'lies' because he could not comprehend Vox would actually WANT friendship as an Overlord? And it just reinforced Alastor's perception that Vox was trying to desperately scrounge for more power, and he was much weaker than he initially thought of him as? That all of Vox's pleading hammered home that he was 'weak' in Alastor's eyes? When in reality, Vox's offer was just: "Hey, let's have even MORE fun - together!"

And, over the years, how many times did Vox try to defend himself against those accusations from Alastor? It sounds like he has slung that shot at Vox more than once. "After all this time, you're still making excuses and lying through your teeth."

And so this look on Vox's face just before his blasé response is kinda one that reads as: "God, not this again."