dt richard II talk, 16/01/16
my fave parts of today’s king and country talk:
david tennant spoke about how significant richard’s relationship with aumerle is, in that it’s the only time this king - who has, through his belief in the divine right of kings, isolated himself in his superiority - truly connects with another person on a human and meaningful level.
he said that the scene with aumerle at flint castle, where they have their kiss and moments of tenderness, ‘gives Richard the strength to surrender,’ and ‘gives Richard a reason to surrender.’
he went on to explain that the way in which he surrenders, in the deposition scene, is one where he ‘owns everyone in the room’ and finally realises his own capacity for taking control, even in this moment of surrendering the crown.
the strength he exhibits in his finest moment, the point at which we feel most sympathetic towards him, derives fundamentally from that flint castle smooch with his boyfriend, basically. :)
when discussing the poignancy of the scene with the queen in which she and richard say goodbye, david mentioned how perplexed he was by it initially, because ‘he spends the whole play ignoring his wife’ and then they have this moving moment. so they circled round and round in rehearsals trying to work out how to pitch that. he said that he feels really sorry for both the actresses who have played the queen, because for the whole play he ‘gives them nothing to work with’ - he humorously recounted scenes in which she attempts to help him in some way and richard blatantly ignores her - and yet she is so loyal to him, and the actresses playing her have some poignant lines to deliver on the basis of not very much loving from richard, who is, according to david, much more interested in, ahem, going off with bushy, bagot and greene, in… all manner of ways, ‘possibly all at the same time’ ;)) god bless david tennant for not skirting around his interpretation of richard’s sexuality
when asked how much he researched historically speaking vs how much he stuck to shakespeare’s version of richard, david said something like, ‘as with any drama in which you are telling the story of something that actually happened, you have to respect history enough to at least do a bit of research, but you also have to respect the script enough to focus on that, as an actor.’ Clearly there are elements of richard’s life which shakespeare chooses to omit or change up, such as the queen being an adult in the play (in real life she was just a child when married off to richard) but when researching the real richard, david became obsessed with the notion of richard becoming a king as a boy, and the psychology of that, so that was a huge influence on how he portrays him. essentially, ‘you just take the useful stuff and discard the rest,’ where historical facts are concerned.
overall, it was a very interesting and entertaining talk and they covered all the stuff i was curious about re: the production and shakespeare’s approach to writing history plays/tragic histories in general, which was great.
shout-out to the other actor in the talk lol, jonathan slinger, who was very smart and funny and who didn’t break eye contact with me the entire time he was speaking lmao, i felt like i was in a seminar and found i kept nodding to show my approval at what he was saying
what i also loved was, because jonathan had also played richard II some years ago, they compared their productions as they answered questions; it’s fascinating to hear where they were similar in their approach and where they differed, esp when it resulted in them being like, ‘hmm well i agree with what david’s saying, but also maybe you could argue….[insert different view here]’ lol. i like that they acknowledge there can be different interpretations about certain aspects
one funny moment early on was when david went to justify his opinion about something with a line from the text, and forgot the line; he remembered it quickly enough, and proceeded to speedily reel off a few lines and then bowed his head and said ‘thank you!’ to applause, but it was so funny to see his initial distress, and he said, ‘i said these lines literally 12 hours ago why can’t i remember??’ This funny bit was compounded by jonathan subsequently quoting some lines from the play in one of his answers, to which david reacted: ‘how do you remember that? you did it years ago! i couldn’t have done that,’ or words to that effect.
of course, what made today all the more fun and memorable was catching up with @tyttetardis :D thanks, friend! i had a grand time <3