Rayne and Orter's characters study in comparison, The Analysis.
By a huge fan of Rayne, and the number 1 orter hater.
(Funny how in this pic it looks like even Rayne is asking what tf he has to do with Orter, but anyway.)
*sighs* I didn't want to do this, but here I am, writing about Orter and having to analyse every one of his panels to prove how of a horrible, terrible character he is. And how, most importantly, Rayne would NEVER want to do anything with him if its not work related. So let's go...
โ ๏ธ DISCLAIMER: I will be VERY mean to Orter in this analysis, but I will try to stay as polite as possible (and God knows how hard it will be for me) so if you are an Orter fan, I do not advise you to read this, or read at your own risk. Also, I will try to use the manga as much as possible.
Another point that may be important is to read my previous analysis about how Rayne sees Mash because that will be VERY important in this analysis since Mash is a central point in proving that Rayne and Orter have really nothing to have with each other.
First of all, before starting, it is important to know what is a Divine Visionary since its literally the only thing that Rayne and Orter have in commun (apart from being big brothers but we literally dont know what is Orter and Wirth's relationship since they never interected, so this commun point between Rayne and Orter is irrelevant.)
We see in chapter 6 Wahlberg explaining what a DV is to Mash;
Basically, they work for the government and their influence can affect the management of the city which is a very huge important role that i dont think anybody can take. Surely the current DVs must have reasons to be DVs which could be interesting to know. But, sadly we will never know for most of them, except for Rayne and Orter. Thankfully, they are the characters that interest us here so we will talk about their goal later. But, before going to it, there is another point that is important to define.
Before making any judgement regarding the Bureau of Magic/DVs (if they are bad or good), it is important to know what is the state of the society they live in.
In chapter one, it was said that magic determines social status, and we find out later that it basically means that society values magic over human lives, which is a very BAD thing, and it actually created a lot of problems that we saw throughtout characters' stories. Let's enumerate some of them:
Mash's death threat over the fact that he is a magicless. That shows that society (aka the government aka the DVs) kills people like him which we can all solidly agree that it is NOT a good reason to kill someone. We get it that magic is important in this society but it is not a reason to kill a human being that did nothing wrong. And, if they were really religious, as Brad Coleman stated, they would have accepted that God doesn't make mistakes, so if magicless exist, its also because God wanted them to live, but anyway. Mash was lucky to not have been murdered, but his fellows probably were, thats probably why we've never seen or heard about other magicless. And we know for a fact that other magicless existed:
So nowadays either they are hiding like Mash, or they moved to another city, or they have been killed (and it has been stated a lot of time the fact that magicless are murdered, by Brad and a certain someone :))
2. Several depicture of parents abandoning/mistreating their child because they follow that mentality that is "magic over human" or "high status matters", here list of that subject:
The Crown's story. Their parents are a perfect representation of the damages society's mindset had generated. They had put Lance in a high place because he is a double liner and talented, but they immediately rejected Anna once they discovered that she was about to lose her magic. That shows that parents dont love their children, here, the Crowns only loved Lance because he will bring prestige in their family, if he had been in Anna's place, they would have rejected him too, because human life doesnt matter.
Wirth's story. He had been put into unbearable pressure to not "ashamed" his family because prestige is what matters and not human life. And it is crazy how his father just kept saying that he worths nothing if he doesnt prove himself, and by proving himself that means becoming something he is not. But what is ironic in this story is that Wirth's WHOLE family perpetutes that toxic mindset since they all work at the Bureau of Magic. (they are the ones that manage society and have the power to change it, but they dont)
The last story i will bring up is Abyss Razor's story. It is very interesting how he was called "the number one enemy of magicians" because of his Devil Eye that erase magic. Do you realize how bad it is in this society that values magic over human? Like, its ok to kill people, but to erase magic? Blasphemy, unacceptable. And it is so bad that Abyss' parents tried to kill their own son. And even in Easton he was apparently being avoided, according to his private discussion with Abel.
It really shows society's mentality.
3. Those harmful mentalies created more and more distance between the differents social class, in families, in the street, in schools, probably even in the Bureau of Magic, since the focus is only on magic, inegalities grow which could only result in unfairness, corruption, etc... We saw how the magical police acted (with Brad and his coworker who took advantage of their power to mistreat Mash/Regro), we saw how bad Easton is (quoting Lloyd Calvin and the vice president who also used their privileged status to expel Mash and Finn. Also the whole Abel story were he genuiely thought that he could do whatever he wanted with the "weaks") and so on. And it seems like nobody does anything to change that, not even the DVs...
But, anyway, that was a lot to show you how messed up this society is, which is a very very very important point in this analysis since it is a subject that will inevitably and undeniably create a conflict between Rayne and Orter.
Now, let's refocus on our two characters by talking about their origins and the reason that pushed them to become DVs.
3. Rayne and Orter's backstory.
He was a victim of this society. He became an orphan at a young age, and since his family, who surely isnt better than the other families, probably have that bad mindset of "human life doesnt matter", they let him live on the street with no one to take care of him because he technically didnt bring them anything (in term of prestige and stuff). Adding to that, since society itself doesnt care about its children, Rayne didn't have a choice but to take care of himself (and his brother) alone still at a young age. We dont know how they survive but he managed to get to Easton with a goal in mind; becoming a Divine Visionary, and his reason was stated in chapter 118:
Rayne rightously wished to create a world where no more children would have to go through what he had been through. And i strongly think that it is not the only goal he has since he admitted that society has a lot of problems
He surely tries to solve as much social problems as he could and about the sentence "i'd like even one strong ally", i already stated it in my previous analysis, but that applies that Rayne is alone in this goal of changing society (Wahlberg doesnt count for reasons that i already stated there.) Also, it has been months since Rayne had become a DV which means that even among the DVs he found no one that shares his goal (are we surprised?)
In conclusion, Rayne had a very hard traumatic childhood, and he knew that it is because of the bad society they live in, so now his dearest wish is to change it for the better so no one would have to suffer like he did. This is a very logically and brave wish, but will he be able to achieved it? We don't know, but we are not here for that, so...
We don't know anything about his childhood. But what we can do is look at Wirth's one and speculate about Orter's. Wirth's was awful, there is nothing else to qualify it. But the question we can ask ourselves is... Did Orter live the same thing as him? We don't know, and honestly? I want to say that he didn't. And i have arguments:
For having watched a lot of animes, i feel like Orter and Wirth have that sort of brother-like relationship where the older is the smartest and most talented one (which is a point that have been stated a lot in the manga, quoting what 008 and Doom said) who makes his parents very proud. So i dont think that his parents have to put pressure on him since he is naturally talented and was able to become someone important (i suppose easily?). As for Wirth, their parents expected him to be the same as Orter, but ofc he doesnt meet their expectations because he is not Orter. So i dont think that Orter lived a bad childhood.
Adding to that first point, Orter looked waaaaaaaay too chill in his flashback for someone that is supposed to have been raised under constant pressure like Wirth. So, mmmh, hard to believe that he actually did live through what Wirth went through. Let's remind ourselves his past attitude; Orter was constantly late (i bet Wirth would die from a heartattack if he ever gets late and his father finds out), he doesnt do his job (if Wirth even thinks about not doing his job he would literally feel sick cause his father will look down on him) then there is this:
Idk if that just means that he is so previliged that he can have a "moderate life" but i don't think that Wirth ever had the chance to ever think that he can have a moderate life considering how much pressure his father was giving him. (until he gave up on making his father proud, as he should.)
So to sum, i believe that Orter did NOT have a bad childhood. And even if he did, that wouldn't justify his actions (like for Abel) but let's not go too far yet. (lets just note that for now, we can say that Rayne and Orter had lived completely different lives since Orter was still a rich privileged kid despite his potential "bad childhood" that could not even be compared to what Rayne went through. Adding to that, it seems like Orter actually became like his father with the speech he had when he was training Lance and Dot. And again, even if he did live a horrible childhood, actually becoming like his FATHER after that, and still being like him at the age of 23, his childhood is not an excuse anymore when he could have CHANGED. And you can't tell me "yeah but his only paternal figure was like that so he could only because like his father", do i have to remember you WHERE Rayne had been raised? IN THE STREET, and do you know how usually kids that are raised in the secret end up like? Rayne could totally have become like that, but he didn't, which means that Orter could also NOT become like his father.)
Anyway, another thing that can be noted about Orter's backstory... he literally chose to become a cop. A cop. he could have been literally ANYTHING to get his moderate life, but he chose to be a cop (lets just remember how cops act in the Mashle world... With Brad and his coworker :) what a dream job!). Anyway... Though, ironically, Orter was waaaaaay better in his past self (when he used to do nothing) then currently. And the worst thing that had happened to him is Alex Elliot. (but that still doesn't justify what he did, its just that if he hadnt meet Alex, maaaaaaybe he wouldnt be the asshole that he became, oops, sorry, i insulted him, but he deserves it.)
So lets talk about those two wannabe cops.
Orter and Alex met in the magic police school, and Alex explained that they both chose to become cops for "the love of justice"
Alex is incredibly naive and so unaware of society's problems (probably because he is privileged too) to say "for the love of justice" what justice? Decided by who? The same that let orphans starve on the street? The same that let parents and schools kill their children? The same that let people in poverty? The same that cares more about magic than human? What are you even saying Alex.
Unfortunately, he is the one who had put in Orter's head the "sense of respecting" rules and order...
Again, what rules and order? I am not trying to say that justice and rules are bad, not at all, in the contrary, its important to have rules and a justice to maintain the world's order. But when your society is messed up, where the justice is corrupted, and when the rules are unfair, are you really willing to give your life for that? This is very sad that Alex actually did die for that though, without achieving any significant thing. Maybe he did help some people, but the real problems of society that cause a lot of people to die/suffer were not solved, and Alex literally worsened things by pushing Orter to become a horrible and terrible person with his sense of "respecting the rules because that would maintain the world" what world are you maintaining if it is already messed up?
Anyway, now that we have both Rayne and Orter's goals, let's compare them.
In appearance, they both want a better world, but in very different ways that contradict each other; Rayne wants to change society for making the world better, while Orter tries to not change anything to keep the world as it is because he thinks that would make the world better.
Now, lets see which one is the most likely to make the world a better place, but it is not even hard to admit that it is Rayne's without any hesitation. Why? Easy. Rayne is not a selfish privileged asshole that closes his eyes or completely ignores society's REAL problems. Rayne was a victim of society which means that he understands more than anyone that they couldnt keep living in a world like that, and there is not only him that has that thinking, Wahlberg too, Mash, even Lance. They actually want what would be fair for everyone! As for Orter??? He doesnt acknowlege society's problems and literally perpetuate them, just, because. (actually he gave a reason that is completely stupid and its the fact that if one exception is made the whole society will collapse, thats stupid because the rules he is trying so hard to maintain were literally changed not so long ago since in Adam's jobs era, magicless, for exemple, werent killed, which means that this rule is recent, and which means that things can change, but Orter is stupid so i can't really expect him to think.) Anyway sorry i was mean again (not sorry) i hope you understand more why Rayne and Orter can't get along, but we didn't even get to how messed up Orter fully is so lets just get into it
4. Mash in Rayne and Orter's life
The apparition of Mash in their life is another VERY obvious point that proves that Rayne and Orter can't get along. When Rayne saw Mash for the first time, he saw in him a potential ally. When Orter saw Mash for the first time, he saw him as an enemy that he needed to eliminate. a 16 years old. That had done NOTHING to deserve to die (hiding his lack of magic and signing in Easton arent reason to kill a teenager). But Orter still thought that those are reasons to kill Mash cause he is too stubborn and stupid to change his mind.
But do you know what is worse in all this? i will repeat myself but i dont care;
If mister knew a bit of his history, "their" world, as he called it, didnt always "operated" like that, hellooooo what about Adam jobs??? I dont even think that his death was a century ago, so it is recent, and magicless werent killed at that time. WHICH MEANS THAT RULES CAN BE CHANGED DEPENDING ON WHO RULES (cant believe that a 23 years can't understand that, and he is one of those that "rule" this city, no wonder that it is still a mess) what is funny is that Wahlberg LITERALLY TOLD HIM THAT
But the arguments Orter or even the other DVs had provided to respond to Wahlberg were heartless and so unhuman like, they clearly showed that they dont care about being fair, they dont care about being just, they are just marionets that follow the rules blindly without any sort of thinking whether the rules are good or not, and the realm of magic is ruled by them? No wonder Rayne saw no ally in them, especially Orter.
Seriously, their arguments are barely arguments when you know that rules can in fact change, and i dont think that the realm is a democracy so the population cant really have their word to say. The DVs are seen as idols who are worshipped, if all of them decided that magicless deserve to live, the population will just have to accept since they wouldnt have a choice but to obey their "divinities", and letting magic-less alive literally wont change a thing in their lives!
But anyway lets just focus on Orter for now:
This makes me laugh a lot everytime i read it because he really thinks that its rational to kill innocent people and that it is "being emotional" to not want other human beings to die for nothing, but this is not even the WORST OF HIM.
After the debate with Wahlberg, the judge of the tribunal decided to spare Mash's life. And since it is the new rule applied, the other DVs, since they are brainless marionets who dont think by themselves, just accepted that without questioning or adding anything. But guess who put conditions? Guess who DIDN'T stop at that despite the conditions; Orter Madl.
This dude is a Divine Visionary, he probably has very important works that need to be done, he is a 23 years old dude that probably should be thinking about marriage or whatever people his age are supposed to think about, but this dude made Mash's murder his only goal in life and almost stopped living until he dies. Bro sent Margarette against him, probably even Carpaccio, he was there in the DV exam where he shouldnt probably be there, he tried to kill Mash during the second part of DV with 008, and... this...
This is a kind of obsession that is utterly pathetic. And, for someone that is so for the respect of the rules, its funny how he goes against what has been decided by the tribunal for his own "personal" ego. Why didn't the other DVs act like him, is Orter better DV than him? I dont think so, but maybe that guy is just using his status as a DV to get to his goals, not very that just right? But what i am expecting from a guy like that.
Now to compare him to Rayne. Somehow, he knew that Orter wouldnt stop at the conditions (cause Rayne knows that he is a piece of trash). And what proves that is that Rayne literally knew that Margarette would fight Mash. We dont know how he knew, but he did. And that could hint something about Rayne (that i already talked about in my previous analysis); he may be caring (too much) about Mash (to not say obsessed too but in a totally different way than Orter) and i will just put two pictures that show how different Rayne and Orter think.
Those pictures are enough to show you that those two men would never get along. You have Rayne that will give his life TO Mash, while Orter will give his life to KILL Mash, not the same thing at all. And if Rayne weren't professional, i am sure he would try to fight Orter (Oh wait, he actually did:
5. Other differences between Rayne and Orter
You compare whatever that scene is to what is said about Rayne in the fanbook when he helped a lost child but ended up making him cry just because of his scary face (Rayne actually helped the kid though, while Orter literally pumped into the child and didnt even apologized for that and her glace.) What a good adult and DV :) Rayne would so much want to be close to him! *obvious irony*
The whole 008 story... just... idk what is the status of animals that serve humans in Mashle, because we know nothing about them. But maybe their only purpose is really to serve magicians, BUT, but, but, it is not a reason for them to be mistreated. And poor 008 has been severally mistreated by Orter, cause Orter is a heartless dude that thinks that living being doesnt matter, which is extremely bad. If we have to compare him to Rayne, Rayne also has a "servant", arachnabus, and it doesnt seem like Rayne is mistreating it, and i dont think that Rayne would ever do something like that cause Rayne actually has a heart, also i think that Rayne must be fond of animals since his favourite subject is Magic Zoology and he actually owns pets that he takes care of VEEEEERY well, so again, Rayne surely would want to be close to Orter knowing how he treats any living being :)))) *obvious irony again*
Last point cause i am starting to get very tired of seeing and reading about Orter; despite everything he had done to Mash, he never ever apologized to him, never. And honestly his whole sacrifice scene in 147 would never atoned for the multiple attempt murders he had committed. But the only good thing there was the fact that he finally ended up "recognizing" Mash but ONLY when they were all at the edge of dying, like wow, the city needed to get destroyed for him to finally open his eyes that magicless arent the problem in society? And i didnt even talk about how he treated Dot and Lance cause i cringe everytime i see them together so lets not talk about it. However, Rayne immediately gave his full trust to Mash, for the beginning until the very end he supported Mash as much as he could! And, unlike Orter, Rayne tried to thank Mash for all the things that he had done (if it was not for the rabbit)
So after all that nobody can tell me that Rayne and Orter would get along, they wont! and i dont want ANYONE coming at me and telling me "yeah but Rayne and Orter fought together against Doom." OFC THEY WILL FIGHT TOGETHER, THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER THEY DONT HAVE A CHOICE, AND THEY WERE IN A CRITICAL SITUATION SO OFC THEY WILL, but that doesnt mean that they get along!
Anyway, i will stop there, i guess my points are clear, Orter is the worst character, and Rayne is so much better than him, i love him very much and i hate Orter.
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