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SOOOO DELIGHTFUL i really enjoyed it. its still available to read until july 25th rveryone RUN!!!!!
obsessed with john rich's obsession with garfield honestly hes right. garfield is the best. AND THE TATTOO REVEAL GOT TO ME its such a good character choice for him to not reveal this until almost the end. its such a recalibration of our perception of him. hes such a fun character i really liked getting in his head even though it was completely infuriating how obtuse he was sometimes like omg. he likes u dude stop overthinking this!!!!!!!
soooo many good fun characters!!!!! i really liked hunter and jules a lot. hunter i love you. jules keep draeing porn comms on the job ur amazing. and GEOFFREY BRENNER what a fantastic character. john rich was too in his head to appreciate it but i think hes awesome.
tyler is such a good character too i wish we got to see him more outside of john's biased and overanxious perspective..... he seems like a really fun and decent guy. sweet as hell. john stop falling for the gossip and rumours look at him objevtively im trying to appreciate him!!
really excited to see what happens with this story!! i am stressed on johns behalf having to keep tyler a secret from hunter for any length of time he will Not be very successful at it. she will find out. i hope we get to see it some day....
the jack zimmerman jumspcare was wild too i like knew it was the same author and the same college but i thought it was just borrowing worldbuilding i did NOT expect the crossover. of COURSE bitty would like john's whole vibe. this makes sense. awkward jack zimmerman ilu
Broke: what is worldbuilding? Made in a lab to be as blandly inoffensive as possible. Time to randomly namedrope terms like 'nonbinary' and 'ace' while doing zero work actually incorporating them into the world or characters and have someone give a speech about how valid they are. Lines like 'I'm too ace for this' while never exploring the concept of asexuality or aromanticism and still having very central romance plotlines is common. I hate it here learn how to write realistic dialogue and fully realized characters I'm begging.
Woke: more ore less typical sci-fi and fantasy but It’s Queer Now. Might include in-universe queerphobia to be struggled against or may have queer identities be fully normalized. Can be done bad or well depending on the skill of the writer. A good way to explore our contemporary ideas of gender and sexuality or to have a bit of a power fantasy with lesbian princesses and trans knights. There will probably be a bisexual love triangle.
Bespoke: what is a gender. What is monogamy. What is polyamory. What is romance. What is platonic. Time to show you the most fucked up uncategorizable relationship you’ve ever seen. There may be weird ass metaphorical sex
AKA books that tackle gender, sexuality and relationships in ways that come off as deeply alien and non normative to our present day culture, frequently featuring actual aliens.
For details on the books, check under the readmore! My personal favorites are marked with an *
A note: as I'm generally more into sci-fi than fantasy, this list skews heavily toward the former. Feel free to make your own recommendations in the notes if you know of more titles!
If you want more book recs, check out my masterpost of rec lists!
Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie*
Once, Breq was Justice of Toren, a starship whose artificial intelligence linked through the minds of a multitude of human ancillary bodies. Now, there is only Breq, a lone soldier seeking vengeance after a horrific act of betrayal cost her everything. As Breq gets closer to her goal, the conquering empire she once served begins to destabilize from the inside, and Breq herself has to question her priorities as new loyalties arise. Features female-as-neutral worldbuilding, as well as singular characters existing throughout many bodies.
Note: my favorite from this series is Translation State, which gets really weird about gender and sexuality and stands fairly well on its own, go read it!
The Black Tides of Heaven by Neon Yang
Novella series. In a world where children choose their gender when they're ready, twins Mokoya and Akeha once swore never to pick. But as they grow older, the two find themselves drawn in different directions, both in terms of gender and in what they want from their lives. Rebellion is brewing, and the twins' mother is looking to use them to her whims to retain power. Akeha, unwilling to be her pawn, resorts to leaving home and falling in with the rebels.
The Unraveling by Benjamin Rosenbaum*
On a distant planet in a distant future, everyone has multiple bodies that can be customized however they want, cybernetics have abolished nearly all privacy, and the gender binary is no longer about man or woman. Instead, there's vail and staid, for which biological sex is irrelevant. Fift should be focusing on the obligations of a staid, but is distracted by budding feelings for Shria, forbidden due to Shria being a vail. When their complicated relationship unexpectedly becomes the center of a growing revolution, they will both have to decide where their priorities lie.
Dawn by Octavia E. Butler*
After a devastating war leaves humanity on the brink of extinction, survivor Lilith finds herself waking up naked and alone in a strange room. She’s been rescued by the Oankali, who have arrived just in time to save the human race. But there’s a price to survival, and it might be humanity itself. Absolutely fucked up I love it I once had to drop the book mid read to stare at the ceiling and exclaim in horror at what was going on. Includes darker examinations of agency and consent, so enter with caution.
The Javelin Program by Derin Edala
Dr Aspen Greaves expected to be woken from decades of cryo sleep on humanity’s first deep space colony, but instead finds themself alone on a spaceship still years away from its goal. Surrounded by mysteries on a barely functioning ship, Aspen must make sure the still sleeping crew reach their new home, while also dealing with the many secrets hidden behind the Javelin Program. Nonbinary and aromantic lead, based on a society and norms very far removed from ours.
Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir*
Gideon, raised as a swordswoman by unfriendly nuns, would rather run away and make her own life, but her services are needed. The Reverend Daughter, Gideon’s childhood nemesis, has been invited to a trial to win a place as an immortal by the Emperor’s side, and she’s in need of a bodyguard. Listen, if you’re on tumblr I probably don’t need to explain this book to you. Trust me when I say it’s exactly as good as people claim. Humorous and spooky but also absolutely gut wrenching and clever with a lot of political commentary. There are also, indeed, lesbian necromancers in space.
Too Like the Lightning by Ada Palmer
Centuries in the future, humanity has deliberately engineered society to be as utopian as possible, politically, socially, sexually, religiously. But things begin to crumble as the shadow of impending war looms. Written in an enlightenment style and featuring questions of human nature and whether it’s possible to change it, and what price we’re prepared to pay for peace, this book is simultaneously very heavy and very funny, and written in a very unique style. While still human, the society presented often feels starkly alien.
Walking Practice by Dolki Min
Having crashed their space ship, a shapeshifting alien finds themself trapped on Earth. Suffering from isolation and loneliness, they have settled into a routine to survive. Using online dating services, they take on the shape of human men and women to hunt humans for food. Strange, gross, and gender weird, Walking Practice is a unique take on gender from a wholly alien perspective.
The Stars are Legion by Kameron Hurley
Zan wakes without memory, a passenger aboard one of the living world-ships of Legion, a fleet of decaying generations ships. Told she’s the salvation meant to free them from the fleet, Zan is flung head first into a brutal and bloody conflict. This book fucked me up when I read it. It’s weird, it’s gross, there’s So Much Viscera, there are literally no men, it has living spaceships and biotech but in the most horrific way imaginable, where humans are nothing but part of an ecosystem that cares little for their well-being. It’s an experience but not necessarily a pleasant one.
All Systems Red by Martha Wells*
After having hacked its own governor module, SecUnit uses its small amount of new freedom to secretly download and watch as much media it can between doing its job guarding humans. But when the scientists it’s been charged with keeping safe come under attack, it must make a choice about whether to continue keeping its freedom secret or risk it all to save them. The series features both novellas and full length novels, and balances humor with scathing social critique. There's also an excellent tv adaptation!
Drinking Sapphire Wine by Tanith Lee
Four-BEE is a utopian city, in which humans have no responsibilities, are cared for by machines, and few acts cause true consequences as even death has been conquered. Able to change bodies and gender nearly at will, living lives of luxury and hedonism, everything should be perfect; yet the narrator finds him/herself dissatisfied with his/her life. After an impulsive decision leads him/her to break one of the only remaining taboos, he/she is exiled from Four-BEE into the wholly uninhabited desert wilderness outside.
The Cloud Roads by Martha Wells
Moon doesn't know what he is. Having lost his family young he lives on the move, shifting shape to hide his true form. The only ones similar to him he's ever encountered are the vicious, bloodthirsty Fell, but he knows he cannot be one of them. When chance leads to a meeting with someone like him, he hopes his days of loneliness are over. But his new people stand against a dangerous enemy, and not all of them welcome Moon's help. Featuring a world with not a single human in sight, The Cloud Roads makes for a unique perspective.
When the Angels Left the Old Country by Sacha Lamb*
The angel Uriel and the demon Little Ash have been friends for centuries, living and studying together in a small Jewish community in Europe. But times are changing, and many of the community have left for a new life across the sea. When one of these emigrants go missing, Uriel and Little Ash decide to leave their peaceful life to go find and, if needed, save her. While set in our own past rather than a fictional world/time like other titles on this list, the relationships and identities of the two main characters often break our ideas of gender as well as platonic/romantic.
The Summer Prince by Alaya Dawn Johnson*
Young adult. Young artist June Costa lives in Palmares Tres, a beautiful, matriarchal city relying heavily on tradition, one of which is the Summer King. The most recent Summer King is Enki, a bold boy and fellow artist. With him at her side, June seeks to finally find fame and recognition through her art, breaking through the generational divide of her home. But growing close to Enki is dangerous, because he, like all Summer Kings, is destined to die. Set in a world in which bisexuality and polyamory are largely the norm.
Dreamsnake by Vonda N. McIntyre*
In a future ravaged by disaster, Snake is a traveling healer who uses the venom of her snakes to concoct medicines for all imaginable ills. The most valuable of them all is her dreamsnake, an alien creature whose bite can grant a painless death. When circumstances cause her to lose her dreamsnake, she must embark on a dangerous journey to obtain a new one so she can continue her work. Set in a world where polyamory and bisexuality are largely the norm.
Shadow Man by Melissa Scott
As an effect of an FTL drug, intersex births increased, resulting in five separate genders among humans: men, women, mems, fems, and herms. But on the planet Hara, people cling to the old two gender system, forcing intersex individuals to pick one of the two and generally refusing to recognize their existence and needs. As conflict on the planet broils, Warreven, a Haran advocate and herm, and Tatian, an off-worlder, find themselves dragged into a struggle for equality.
Leech by Hiron Ennes*
Unbeknownst to humanity, a sentient hive mind has taken over the entire medical profession to ensure the health of their host species. One of their doctors is sent to an isolated location where they’re cut off from the rest of the hive mind, only to realize they’re faced with a rivaling parasitic entity. Leech hands you only just enough information to get by, and whether its historical fantasy, an alternate timeline, or futuristic post apocalypse is hard to determine. It’s spooky and weird and wildly creative, and does some neat things with gender, because what does gender even mean when you're a hive mind bacteria inhabiting countless bodies?
Axiom's End by Lindsay Ellis
It’s 2007, and a leak has just confirmed that the US has reached alien contact. Cora wants nothing to do with it, but as her absent father is the whistleblower who dropped the news the media won’t leave her alone. Even worse, she soon finds herself meeting and being stalked by the alien presence itself as it tries to remain in hiding - and discovering that there is a much larger threat on the horizon. Features aliens with very different ideas of gender and relationships than humans, and a central focus is how a relationship between one of them and a human would look like.
Ammonite by Nicola Griffith
Centuries ago, the first settlement on the planet Jeep was hit by tragedy: a virus killed off all men, leaving behind a society of only women. Now, the planet has been rediscovered, its inhabitants having long forgotten about the rest of humanity. Anthropologist Marghe Taishan is sent to test out a potential vaccine. If the vaccine succeeds, Jeep and its people would no longer be in forced quarantine, but it would also open them up to exploitation.
Ethan of Athos by Lois McMaster Bujold
For Dr. Ethan Urquhart living on Athos, delivering babies looks a little different: they are "born" from uterine replicators, as Athos is a planet populated entirely by men. But now they're running out of the ovarian cultures that allow them to reproduce. To replace them, Ethan is one of the first of his people to be sent off planet into the wider universe - where there are women, rumored to be an evil and corruptive force.
The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin
Genly Ai is an emissary sent to the planet of Winter, meant to help facilitate Winter’s inclusion in a growing intergalactic civilization. But he’s unprepared for Winter’s citizens, who spend much of their time genderless or switching between genders, making for a culture wildly different from what Genly is used to.
Meet Me in Another Life by Catriona Silvey*
Thora and Santi are strangers, brought together by a coincidence and torn apart just as abruptly when tragedy strikes. But this is neither the first nor the last time they meet - again and again they encounter each other, as friends, lovers, enemies, family, every time recognizing in each other a familiarity no one else carries. But with every new life, a mysterious danger grows ever closer, forcing them to find out the truth of their connection. This is a puzzle-box of a story that goes some entirely unexpected places in a very wild ride, featuring a bisexual co-lead and a very hard to define main relationship.
A Door Into Ocean by Joan Slonczewski
On the moon Shora live the Sharers, a nation of women who reproduce via parthenogenesis and have developed highly advanced biological sciences. Leading wholly pacifist lives, the Sharers are threatened when humans from another planet come across their world and decide to develop it, no matter what the Sharers themselves think. The Sharer society is openly sapphic, though the main romance is m/f.
Dust by Elizabeth Bear
In a dying spaceship, orbiting an equally dying sun, noblewoman Perceval awaits her own gruesome death. Having been captured by an opposing house, her wings severed and life forfeit, Perceval’s execution is imminent - until a young servant charged with her care proves to be Perceval’s long lost sister. To stop a war between houses likely to doom them all, the two flee together across a crumbling, dangerous spaceship. At its core waits Jacob Dust, god and angel, all that remains of what the ship once was. And he wants Perceval. Sapphic and asexual characters, however be prepared for kinda fucked up relationships.
Halfway Human by Carolyn Ives Gilman*
When Val, expert in alien cultures, gets called in to help handle the young Tedla after a suicide attempt, she is let in on a secret decades in the making. Tedla is neither male nor female, an asexual person from an isolated planet where a genderless class of 'blands' are exploited as a work force. As knowledge of Tedla's presence begins to spread, so does the attention of various parties wanting to use it for their own ends, including its old masters. As Val works to unravel the history of how Tedla came to leave its world, the pressure builds - what is to become of Tedla? Content warning for themes such as suicidal ideation, slavery, and child sexual abuse.
Moonstar Odyssey by David Gerrold
On the planet of Satlik, humanity have been changed: children are born genderless, and have the ability to choose between male and female during puberty. As a child coming of age, young Jobe finds herself having a hard time choosing what she wants to be, a decision coming into shadow as global disaster looms near. Novella length, focused as much on building up the history and lore of Satlik as it is on the coming of age story. Also an early example of female pronouns being used as default and neutral!
Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon*
Charlie Johns is just your average guy, so when he suddenly finds himself pulled into the strange, utopian future of Ledom, he's shocked. In Ledom, gender is a thing of the past, as is hunger and war. Confused and wanting to return home, Charlie Johns is promised that he will be returned, but first the people of Ledom want him to tour their society. Charlie Johns agrees, but the more he learns and the better things seem, the more suspicion grows: why is he really here? Published in 1960, Venus Plus X is frankly astoundingly progressive about the topic of gender.
Trouble on Triton by Samuel R. Delany
On the moon Triton hundreds of years in the future, life looks a little different from our world. The only place yet to be drawn into a war spanning the entire rest of the solar system, society on Titan is in many ways a utopia, where everyone can live however they want, no matter how strange their ideals. Yet despite this, martian immigrant Bron Helstron isn't happy. Unable to build meaningful relationships or figure out what he actually wants out of life, Bron is prepared to all but turn himself inside out to figure things out. Strange, surreal, and a bit out there, I'd recommend this if you want a story with a fairly loose plot and prose that will scramble your brain. Not a personal favorite, but an impressive work.
Every Day by David Levithan
Young adult. A is neither boy nor girl - in fact, A doesn't have a body of their own. Every day they wake up inhabiting a stranger's body, and spend a single day living their life before waking up as someone else the next day. They try to be respectful of their hosts' lives, not making decisions they wouldn't themselves make, but after meeting and falling for Rhiannon, the girlfriend of one of their hosts, things begin to change as A begins pursuing their own wants.
Woman on the Edge of Time by Marge Piercy
After being forcefully committed to an asylum, Connie Ramos' life is looking bleak. She's being coerced into experimental treatments meant to "cure" her, and no matter what she does no one will believe she's fit to be released. Her only escape are the mysterious visits by a time traveling envoy, who introduces her to a utopian future of sexual and racial equality. But this isn't the only possible future, and Connie herself may be a driving force in what shape the future will take. A very interesting work featuring a mostly gender neutral future, though it does at times feel more like a thought experiment than a narrative.
[images: photo collages of the covers of all the named books, first all of the books in one image and then in groups of three before the descriptions.]
BOOK OF ALL TIMEEEEEE genuinely love this book sooo so so much. both because it introduces ART and because i REALLY love tapan maro and rami.
they were its first chosen clients!!!!!! its adjusting to being free and not being expected to act a certain way and its trying so hard.....
i kept getting cuteness aggression for mb in this reread i cant lie it would be doing something and i'd need to put the book down to imagine squeezing it into a tiny ball. murderbot..... my murderbot....... it is so kind and sweets. it cares so much. wah i love it......
really noticed too the switch in how it thought of tlacey's comfortunit. like all through the book its calling it a sexbot and being like. really disparaging about its function. and then suddenly at the end he calls it the comfortunit. much to be said about mbs relationship to and experience with other constructs im rotating it in my mind
and well of course theres my fav bit of Two bots in a trench coat attempt to pass a job interview.
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Some really hard-hitting works in here. I read the first half of it like a year ago but i remember some of the poems really spoke to me. Very good collection
yeaaah. yeah. REALLY good. I read this one on a rec thank you asper your taste remains incredibly inline with mine it's crazy.
There was something about him slowly learning to love every aspect of life on earth that really got to me. Something about the flaws and the contradictions being what it's all about. That peaceful uneventful utopia isn't the perfect world. Really enjoyed his take on what life is all about.
Very fun storytelling premise too. Him talking to the Vonnadorians and telling them all about earth. I liked it
I ENJOYED THE MATHS maths really is magic. Maths is the answer to everything. This book had me looking up the riemann hypothesis and crying those graphs are so far beyond me I do NOT get it but i am intrigued.
Only thing i wana know is why the Vonnadorians also use base 10. do they also have 5 digits? Really fun bit of world building implication to me. Completely unrelated to humans but base 10 is universal apparently? Don't tell the Eridians
Reallyyyy liked these two points. Nodding my head.
I AM BACKIN THE BUILDING. ive ben wanting to reread for ageessssss i planned to do it beginning of june but everything happens so much.
i'm bringing this today as my fav book to discuss in the book club event at a local thing :3 everyone is going to love my best friend murderbot
i started reading this last night and finished it this morning god its SO good. i forgot how short it was!!
noticed things again on this reread too. mb is literally sweet..... its a sweetiepie....... the silly. it looks up definitions of words it doesnt know! i love it so bad.
im so genuinely in love with the way martha wells writes characters and personalities they all feel so well-rounded and individual even in a 149page novella its really impressive. FANTASTIC work.
i'm excited to get into rereading the whole series and finally getting to platform decay!! i'm gonna try to finish the other books im in the middle of first (there are a few...) but i think it's very doable and i've been more in the reading grindset lately. yippeeeeee i love the written word
i read this on shift yesterday and it was honestly a great insight into his work and ideas. very fascinating to see how he just reuses the same names for different stories or projects.
i enjoyed mermaid rhapsody i thought it was really sweet, woke-up-as-a-girl syndrome was kinda silly kinda funny but i could see what he was saying in it about like. gender roles and expectations and what it means to act like a man vs be a man etc. i dont think hes all the way there but u know it was a fun story anyway
i REALLY liked nayuta of the prophecy a lot. it was so so sweet. and awesome that he liked nayuta enough to put a version of her in csm honestly he really DOES recycle his characters so much.
sisters was. very difficult to read in public at my job. i fogot there was nudity in this LOL i was shielding my book whenever patrons came up to the desk. this was a weirder one.
i liked that there was a little commentary in betwen about them it was nice to have a little explanation or context
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oohhhh euini...... :((( richeh and euini...... i like him hes sweet. im exploding kukrow badly
verryyyyyy good chapters i love them exploiting the Well reversing forbidden magic isnt explicitly forbidden therefore its allowed. really interesting stuff happening
once again SO obsessed with the artstyle i really love it. olruggio and qifrey are so good too <3 they care so much im crying. seeing every other persons attitude towards kids and apprentices and they turn up like. thats really mean. you should talk to your kids like people. its fantastic
i really love richeh..... shes really getting her time to shine this volume....... soo excited to see how she and aggott make it out with euini i have full faith in them
i would HATE to earn an angricheh point. shes so cute
VERY good and compelling worldbuilding im obsessed with the magical fax machine its so cool
also hiiiiiiiii alaira......... love her
i really like the drawing style of this theyre so so expressive. so much emotion and intention in their facial expressions and body language...... fantastic work
read two books in the last week or so that used nonlinear storytelling in the same way. both had a singular protagonist who was also the pov character, and you were experiencing a now and a then. one of them had me sighing every time the timeline switched bc it was So hamfisted and forced and sometimes downright corny, and Every now chapter felt like it had to end on a cliffhanger before you got a tiny bit of context for whatever question or character or conflict had just come up in the now. every bit of storytelling set then was directly correlated to how the mystery was unfolding now, and as a result by the end of the book even though i liked it and liked the mystery and was at least mostly satisfied with the resolutions, i was like well. why didn't she solve that mystery five years ago since i figured it out halfway through the book with only half the summer of context. it was really obvious that the main story was now and then was more of a prop.
the other one did nonlinear storytelling so well i couldn't put it down. it felt like two complete stories that were connected seamlessly but never redundant and never straightforward. some clues i figured out as soon as they came up, some i didn't even realize were clues until much later. i was equally invested in the now and the then because even though they were connected, i wanted to see all of the points of connection.
and interestingly, both books were pretty focused on trauma i think both were trying to use nonlinear storytelling to show the way prior events left a deep impact on the main characters. but the first one was soooo heavy on telling instead of showing. like the then storyline presented things as mostly sunshine and rainbows until The Event that would recontextualize otherwise fairly normal if bad decisions made by the main character (imo). sometimes she had a bad feeling in her stomach while she made those bad choices but they were all, again, very normal bad choices that a starstruck twenty year old would make in the face of a shiny new friendship that she was desperate to keep. and it felt like if The Event hadn't happened at the end of the summer, it would have resolved itself fairly normally (still would have been devaststing if the truth had come out at the end of that summer but i think the story itself presented it as if the Shock of The Event is what ruined the mc's life). This was only exacerbated by the epilogue/last chapter that was a classice "one year later and everything is good" kind of happy ending. so even though i was like yay decent mystery and i did like it enough to finish it, i don't think it's one i'll be like omg you Have to read this.
the one i just finished did such a good job at what it was trying to do that i fully didn't know if there was actual magic in the world of the book or if it was just the way the mc was struggling to reconcile all of the different perceptions of her childhood and family as an adult. it was so well done. even the brightest childhood memories explored in the then storyline had an edge to them, showed off the cracks that even a little girl had picked up on, and the way they intensified as time went on and the problems built while the child got older. it's a portal fantasy book but from the pov of somebody who never discovered the portal, and doesn't know if the people around her actually found the portal or were just broken, messed-up people, but they were still her family and the people she loved. and i don't think it would have mattered to me if it ended up being fantasy or realistic fiction (there is a definitive answer in the book tho) because i was so drawn in by the characters and their lives that i just wanted to know more the entire time. and the author used the nonlinear narrative to pull you in deeper and deeper until by the end you were holding your breath, making the last connections and piecing together what really happened. and this book had it's own The Event but unlike the first book, the buildup to it was so natural and woven into the story that it didn't feel like a one hit wonder of trauma and you had the sense that even if The Event hadn't happened, our main chatrcater would have been just as hurt and lost from everything else in her childhood anyway.
anyway. i'm really glad i read the worst one first bc the one i just finished is one of the books that's now on my "reasons why i love writing as an art form" list. It's The Children by Melissa Albert if anyone was wondering and storytelling aside I also really liked her writing style and word choice. really easy to read bc it flows so well and sits so pretty in my brain.
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i've been chewing on this and i can't quite figure out if i hate the book itself or if i just can't fucking stand the characters in it.
i think it's very much a Me Problems as every single person in the book club absolutely loved it and thought it was really impactful and intense, but i closed the cover anfter finishing like. this is what you're calling a masterpiece? the front cover had a quote calling it "savage and darkly hilarious" and i don't think i'd use either of those words myself.
i might be missing something but it felt very surface level to me. i don't know anything about this author's background and i heard tonight that he used to be in the spaces that this book explores but i think maybe he just failed to quite say anything with the novel. i am willing to accept that it simply wasn't meant to speak to me as i don't and haven't ever really experienced anything similar.
the main character and her social circle was the main thing i fucking hated though GOD. if performative was an olympic sport she would win gold. every single thing she did was with the Omnipresent Audience in mind. she formed her own narrative like she was trying to get ahead of an twitter callout post at times. i understand that this is like a critique on the scene and i'm perhaps not meant to adore her and find her faultless but it was actually painful to get through for me.
i just cant fucking standddddd instagram influencers and their way of thinking and speaking and the more i think about it i think this is the main reason i just did not enjoy this book at all. i didnt want to be in her head because it was making me miserable. make a choice out of your own desires for once in your life. who gives a fuck that your lampshade is too common and you might need to change it so people dont think youre following the trend. im clawing my eyeballs out
i think like it was an effective way of portraying her being stuck. in the relationship mostly but also in life. i dont think it was neccessarily a bad choice. it was her trying to control her image because its the only thing she has left to control cause her husband is a piece of shit. but man. i couldnt do it. i had to read it in such little chunks cause it was just so fuckingggg miserable to get through. i dont look at instagram for a reason i dont wanna have to deal with the instagram mindset while reading a book.
the ending was a bittttt. idk. we kinda agreed on the fact that it didnt quite fit or flow. felt kinda like he didn't quite know how to end it? but like not the worst ending in the world. thoroughly just did not enjoy the book though so it mightve coloured my opinion of it.
i do think leo was a fasciating character and i enjoyed getting to see his thought process. other people commented on the sentence structure while hes high being really effective and impactful but i thought it was mostly just decent? i think maybe i've read some darker books than a lot of them have so that might be affecting this too like it seemed like this dark grim storyline was relatively new for them while i read aftg at like 15 so, u know, different expectations of what is shocking and gripping ? idk.
the main character mallory and her childhood friend joanie was really good too i think it was really effectively portrayed how u can be right beside someone and yet still get isolated from them until you can't reacognise eachother anymore. i did like their dynamic a lot i thought it was interesting and well written.
i don't really know why exactly i hated it so much i really do think its mostly the voice of mallory. she just pissed me offfff with how she cared so so much about appearances. which i understand again is part of the character and the story being told. but. like. it was in such an influencer way. i think it it wasnt contemporary and name dropping real brands and companies it wouldnt have grated on me so bad. i fucking hate consumerism