are there any fics of ilya meeting shane’s extended family and if not then why not
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are there any fics of ilya meeting shane’s extended family and if not then why not

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During a game the Jumbotron falls and Shane is still underneath it when it begins plummeting to the ground. Ilya doesn’t have time to think about, just moves across the ice and tackles them both out of the way in time. Ilya shields Shane from potential debris and lays on top of him protectively until everything settles.
He pushes up but still remains on top of him, asking if Shane is hurt. Shane shakes his head. No, he doesn’t think he is. He asks the same to Ilya, can't help but put his hands on him as he asks-- cradling his face-- but Ilya's alright too. Neither got hit with anything. They’re both okay.
The Jumbotron falling makes headlines because fucking duh. Thankfully no one was seriously injured, although some of the players got bumps and bruises from falling bits but nothing horrific. Everyone was able to skate out of the way. No one got crushed. No one got killed.
The moment with Shane and Ilya gets talked about too. It goes viral, even outside of the sports sphere. There’s all different sorts of angles of it, even multiple close up shots from the photographers and fans that were there during the event.
People speak about the humanity shown bc even with the rivalry, their first instincts were to hold onto each other during a horrifying brush with death. People talk about how Ilya had been safely out of the way before he put himself in danger to make sure Shane was out of the way too.
Yuna Hollander becomes Rozanov’s biggest fan after that. He saved her son. She reaches out to Rozanov herself to invite him to a dinner, which Ilya accepts because it would be rude to decline. After that-- Yuna and David practically adopt Ilya having no idea about the relationship he has with their son. Maybe Yuna even becomes Ilya's manager when she realizes Ilya's own team has been taking advantage of him.
Canon divergence where JJ clocks Shane's "crush" on Ilya early on after the charity reveal, but instead of thinking that it's hopeless because Ilya is terminally straight, JJ thinks to himself "Well, it's a known fact that 99.99% of professional hockey players would go gay for Shane Hollander if he smiled at them, Ilya Rozanov isn't so special to be part of the .01%" and then goes about concocting increasingly chaotic shenanigans to get Ilya and Shane together. Somewhere along the line he's having dinner with Bood, and this is how the Centaurs get roped into things because yeah. That makes so much sense. Cap and Shane Hollander??? Obviously. And between Bood and JJ, two of the most social guys in the MLH, pretty soon it's like a network of matchmaking hockey players including half of the Bears and a couple of Admirals (not Scott Hunter who noped out IMMEDIATELY, because fuck them kids).
Is this realistic? No! Do I care? no! I'm very fond of all the himbo hockey bro fics Ive been reading lately and this particular flavor would be so fun.
Ok sorry last one. For tonight at least I just have a million JJ thoughts
I also personally think that once JJ sees Hollanov he's pretty much on board right away (as compared to Hayden staying cool for a long time). I think this because JJ clocked Shane's feelings and DIDN'T JUDGE THE CHOICE. He just was sad for Shane because he thought Ilya was straight! I think once he sees it so obviously reciprocated he's actually super tickled by it and happy to see Shane happy.
I get the vibe he's way more sex positive than Hayden so I think when Ilya makes gross sex jokes about Shane instead of getting all weird he just goes "hell yeah brother" and hi fives Shane (who wants to die).
I think this eventually escalates to JJ asking Shane way too invasive questions about gay sex and Shane is like "don't you know like a million gay men. you were trying to set me up for ages ask one of them"
I love Shane so much like it's such a classic comphet thing to be all "oh I'm not *gay* I would still date a man/woman. Like look I'm attracted to Chris Hemsworth / Jennifer Lawrence. They're hot. I'd date them"
and most people eventually realize the inherent absurdity of this because you can't date the hottest celebrities on earth and that's a stupid standard and obviously attraction should be more innate than that.
But Shane Hollander CAN date Jennifer Lawrence and by god he's gonna try

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Look sometimes I am gonna call Ilya gay if it works better for a punchline. I am bisexual. I know Ilya is very proud to be bisexual and that is a very special wonderful thing and he does correct people. But I feel like Ilya Rozanov and I would be in agreement that you can be both a proud bisexual and think that saying gay instead works better for the bit sometimes. And Ilya Rozanov is always gonna understand doing something for the bit.
Has anyone written an AU where Grigori doesn’t die? Like he still gets dementia, but it’s later, like maybe it shows up just as he and Shane are just starting to figure their shit out, and maybe in another world he would have stopped tolerating his family at this point and cut them off but right when it looks like he might be strong enough to do so the dementia arrives and he knows he can’t leave. He can’t go to the cottage in the summers, he can’t be brave enough to call Shane his boyfriend, and he spends the next four years still terrified of leaving the closet and disappointing his father. Maybe he still moves to Ottawa, maybe he gets to come home two weeks early every summer for the Game Changers camps because he can make the excuses if it’s work, but it isn’t the same. Instead of spending the three years before The Long Game romanticizing the idea of being out, he is still repressing a lot of his feelings about things out of fear. He thinks Harris is cool as fuck but also Harris terrifies him. He can’t participate in pride nights and the team knows why but that doesn’t stop him from getting accused of being homophobic. He gets his PR card through work like he does before, but it’s just insurance rather than opportunity. He hasn’t yet considered the possibility of never having to go back. The conflict in the long game is similar but also completely different, and if anything it’s Shane who seems to be wanting more (maybe he hasn’t come out to the voyageurs so that Ilya would feel more comfortable publically associating with him). They aren’t even engaged when the FanMail video comes out, and then a week later, Grigori dies, and Ilya can’t even go to the funeral.
Shane sitting poolside in Tampa, watching Ilya play with the kids, interspersed with cuts of him playing hockey on a team with Ilya, literally the most at peace he's ever been. Ilya getting out of the pool and splashing him with water, telling him to get his wallet out, playfully teasing him and interacting with him in public in a way that feels easy and lighthearted and true. It's almost like he's being given a taste of his dream future and, listen, the thing is that he gets it all.
I give TLG a lot of shit but beyond that, there is the hope for the future he saw glimpses of in Tampa. Once they get through all of the hardships, all of the awful things Shane sometimes feels will threaten to pull him under, he will get what he got to taste in Tampa and he will get it for good. He will get to play on a team with his husband, he will get to have that lighthearted banter with him in public and it will get to feel easy. He'll get to lounge by the pool and watch Ilya with the kids, whether they're Hayden's or their own someday, maybe.
Shane Hollander will get everything he never dared hope for and I will say "good for him."
I shit you not when I first watched that scene I couldn’t remember what Ottawa’s colors were and I thought they were black and gold (got them mixed up with Boston, sue me) IN WHICH CASE I was like omg they’re FORSHADOWING their FUTURE bc the eastern conference jerseys are like vaguely those colors and I ended up being wrong but imagine if I was rightttt
Yesterday I saw a post about Ilya getting his bachelors degree just for funsies and I was like oh that’s cute but unrealistic but TODAY I found out ALEXANDER OVENCHKIN has a PhD!!! So actually!!!
He gets his bachelors from Boston University because when Sveta started going in Fall 2011 he would sometimes get bored and just follow her to her lectures
Sometimes he would answer questions and the teachers (recognizing him) would be like, do you go here???
So he started talking to some people and managed to apply and the university was honestly just happy to have him so he starts in the fall of 2012
Also crucially he did his first year of university in 2009-2010 during the “gap year” back in Russia
And when he gets to Boston he’s literally 19 so he’s going to MIT parties and Harvard parties and BU parties and Tufts parties and Boston is Boston so they all sort of bleed together but he really enjoys how many college kids are in his new city
He takes as many virtual classes as he can even though that’s not really a thing in 2012, so he ends up taking just the most random set of classes while only occasionally able to slip in the required courses for his major
He only takes two or three classes a semester because obviously he’s a very busy guy
These combination of factors makes it so he doesn’t actually graduate until spring 2018 (6 years later) and even then he was really locking in the last year before he left Boston, made easier by the fact he wasn’t partying as much and he was able to take summer classes the previous summer for the first time, since he wasn’t going home to Russia
He works up the nerve to take a virtual gender studies class his last semester and learns a lot about himself but also has no idea when he would ever use that information
“So do you think you’ll be able to come up the last week of May if you don’t make the playoffs?” “Oh actually I’m busy that week” “with what?” “I’m graduating” “graduating what?” “College, Hollander, oh my god” “WHAT?!”
Crucially Ilya’s major is sports science (it’s just what’s easiest to get all the credits for since that’s what he studied in Moscow and also His Job) (yes I know BU doesn’t actually offer this as a major but let’s *pretend*) which is also really helpful for being a captain of a professional sports team. It’s also one of Sveta’s majors (she’s doubling in business statistics) so they get to do some of it together
I say “crucially” because a lot of people think Ilya “doesn’t really care” about hockey and is just a slacker who Just Happens to be good when that’s… just not how it works.
Like Ilya generally eats good food and doesn’t drink during playoffs and has a pretty fucking decent hockey IQ, he just doesn’t make it His Whole Thing like Shane does.
Also he didn’t pick his major because hockey is his hyperfixation (like Sveta lol) he just did because it’s what’s convenient and relevant to his life.
Also maybe possibly subconsciously because then he can talk to Shane (and Sveta, which is the version he tells himself) about all the stuff they’re autistic about
Shane LOVES reading research articles and books and studies about hockey and how to optimize himself and Ilya’s like “I know all about that!” and it’s incredibly endearing to Shane but it also makes him kind of crazy because what to you MEAN he’s been doing all the same shit as Shane AND he has a bachelors degree like he’s literally been GOING TO CLASSES to learn about the stuff that Shane just offhandedly reads about and somehow Shane is the insane one???
Like he’s so jealous but also so proud and turned on and he can’t believe his boyfriend is so smart and perfect in literally every way
Anyway Ilya moves to Ottawa and pretty much immediately starts working on his Masters because he has a lot more time now, especially in the summers.
I don’t know where he gets the degree from, possibly still BU, but it’s all online, and it’s still sports-science adjacent, and because he’s been working at the camps he decides to focus on like childhood development in sports.
Because he’s able to lock tf in during the summers he manages to graduate in two years, just before The Long Game starts
That season is the first one Ilya had spent without doing school stuff since his sophomore season in Boston, which contributes to why his depression is so much worse that year because he isn’t able to distract himself during his free time
So all of that previously productive free time is spent bed rotting :)
(Also Ilya failed half his classes during the fall of 2016 because he was depression spiraling. Happens to the best of us.)
Both Galina and Shane mention to him sometime during their engagement that maybe going back to school was good for him and would give him something to do.
But then it’s the first season with Shane on the team and Ilya is fine letting his husband take up all his free time.
Eventually though they settle away from their honeymoon stage (and it takes a while! Like a few years!) and they’re like yeah we probably should spend some time not constantly attached at the hip and maybe have some of our own hobbies
So Ilya starts working on his PhD
This time though he does a program about like gender and diversity and stuff like that
Stuff he never really let himself publicly study while he was closeted, except that one class his final semester of undergrad
He ends up just getting a second masters before working on his PhD thesis
So his thesis ends up being about how diversity is developmentally valuable in sports, using examples from hockey in Russia and Canada and the US, and seeing how exposure to diversity has impacted some of the Irina Foundation kids who within a few years are already being scouted for juniors programs, and seeing how the presence of out queer athletes has changed hockey culture over the last decade, etc.
He doesn’t finally get the PhD until around now (2026) and then he spends the last few years of his career guest lecturing at random universities on his days off during road trips
Shane is sooo proud of him and also feels a little better about it all because the whole gender thing is not at all a thing he would study (his previous insecurities having been that he COULD have gotten a degree like Ilya but he never did) but it’s still something he’s interested learning about and he loves hearing Ilya talk all about it
And then when Ilya retires all of this stuff is really useful for if he wants to become a coach somewhere, because 1) you unsurprisingly learn a lot in sports sciences that is relevant to coaching and 2) if he does it at the collegiate level I’m pretty sure you need a degree to work at a university? I might be wrong tho
I personally hc that he ends up coaching in the PWHL though and those girls are all really smart and a lot of them have gotten degrees concurrently with their careers and obviously are very interested in his area of study so it’s just kind of perfect.
Saw something earlier that mentioned Ilya becoming a PWHL coach when he retires and it’s completely rewritten my concept of Ilya as a character.
Yes absolutely he is becoming a PWHL coach. He’s doing constant promotional work to expand the league and its audience and doing interviews where he talks shit about all the creeps and losers in and running the NHL. “if me and my husband, Shane Hollander, had been female hockey players, we would have been criminally under paid and almost entirely ignored despite our epic love story. These women take their jobs incredibly seriously and play outstanding hockey. Of course some of them want to kiss each other. Would happen more in the NHL if the vile behavior of some players was not both tolerated and supported by teammates, coaches, and administrators.”
His players love him, the owners don’t understand his methods but can’t argue with results, and the NHL is actively pursuing their second defamation lawsuit against him even as they are actively trying to prevent Luca from doing public appearances with his new husband.
Now that they have his undivided attention, Shane becomes a regular guest commentator for PWHL games (never for Ilya’s team though, he’s in the stadium for those generally) and becomes a highly regarded figure for many PWHL fans.
Also, Shane Hollander loves lesbians. He goes out for mojitos and grain bowls with some of the women from Ilya’s team every month and they all get a little tipsy and grill each other about hockey stats and house renovations. He suddenly discovers the appeal of arranging play dates for your kids when he can hang out with some of the other SAPs and talk about play off chances and the fact that the team is on a road trip during the local spring break week while the kids play with foam blocks in the living room.

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Yesterday I saw a post about Ilya getting his bachelors degree just for funsies and I was like oh that’s cute but unrealistic but TODAY I found out ALEXANDER OVENCHKIN has a PhD!!! So actually!!!
at some point in 2018, shane is in the montreal locker room with his team, and they're listening to music, he thinks jj is on the aux today, and a song comes on he's never heard before (not an uncommon occurrence). it has a good beat, and catchy lyrics (later, he'll find out that it's screwed by janelle monae), and then it launches into a bridge repeating the phrase everything is sex, except sex, which is power (and later still he'll learn that this is actually based on a quote from someone else, but he can never remember who). the line is already starting to worm its way into his brain, turning itself over in his mind, when he hears a teammate on the other side of the room make the joke first — he's thankful that he hears it, it gives him a moment to think over the correct response to say out loud as the chirp makes its way across the room to him. by the time someone actually says to his face "that's like you and hockey, right hollander? everything is hockey, except for hockey, which is about—?" he's able to flatly say "winning" like it was the first thought that came into his head, instead of the truth.
everything is hockey, except hockey, which is about having sex with ilya rozanov. well then what's having sex with ilya about then? that's also about hockey, weren't you paying attention?
obsessed with the concept of ilya beginning to change the tides of hockey culture by simply not giving a fuck. he drops his gloves for a fight and his nails are painted. when press brings it up he asks I'm sorry, is painted nails against rules? look too good? too hot? is very distracting I know. maybe is why only took one punch to make him turtle. pictures circulate of him wearing eyeliner to a club and when a player tries to chrip at him about it he raises an eyebrow and says I saw your new Calvin Klein ad. full beat and black and white filter could still not make you look pretty. do not be jealous. makes you somehow uglier. someone makes a comment about his personal grooming and ilya rolls his eyes and answers ofc it seems like a lot when most hockey players have never been taught what deodorant is. ilya rozanov does not give a single fuck.
Ok but imagine an AU where Hollonov is just ten years older. Just ten years and it makes all the difference. Just all these little ways that being queer has gotten easier (and harder, in some ways) in the span of a decade alone.
Gay marriage isn't legalized anywhere in the world until the year 2000, right around the time they have their first few hookups before/during their Rookie year. Gay marriage isn't legalized anywhere in Canada until 2003, and it's legalized in both Quebec and Massachusetts (the first U.S. state) in 2004. It was made fully legal in Canada in 2005 and in the U.S. in 2015. Obviously they're not trying to get married two years into their relationship but it's a pretty good symbolic representation of where the world was comparatively at with The Gay Thing back then. Think about how this could effect their comfort levels with the idea of being queer!!!
On top of that is the timeline differences — they would get to participate in four Olympics throughout their careers, but these would serve as wildly different objects for the plot than in canon. The 2002 Olympics are in Utah and the 2006 Olympics are in Italy, but the 2010 Olympics are in Vancouver. Would Shane feel a lot of pressure with the Olympics in his country like Ilya, or not because he's always played Hockey in Canada? Depending on how closely to canon we follow, is Ilya still repping team Russia by 2010, after three years of a relationship with Shane? Regional anti-gay propaganda laws began popping up in Russia by 2006, and became federal in 2013. Would he even want to go to Sochi, if he and Shane are still in the closet at thirty-three? If they're somehow out by then, by some means other than a fanmail video (because those didn't exist) (but not because they came out on their own, because they never would have done that in 2011), would Shane still have gone to Sochi? It was actually a thing at the time that some countries sent queer athletes or representatives (mostly female) in protest, but would they feel safe sending Shane when they know his husband is the former Captain of Team Russia, making him sort of the ultimate enemy?
In this AU all the other Hockey Queers are the same age as before, so without the Skip Kiss, would it take Shane and Ilya longer to get their shit together? Would they keep pretending they aren't boyfriends even though neither of them have been able to sleep with other people since the 2007 All-Stars? How long would it take them to cut the crap? How much longer would it take for Shane to come out to his parents? Would he ever tell Hayden? He'd definitely never tell his team.
Would Ilya even transfer to Ottawa during the summer of 2008? Or would he stay in Boston, since he's still in denial? Maybe his new contract would be shorter, and he moves to Ottawa a few years later, when the distance becomes too much to bare. Maybe they do this instead of getting married in 2011. Maybe that's the most they can do at that time.
Would they stay in the closet, fully in the closet with nobody but each other (and eventually Rose and Svetlana and Shane's parents) until 2017 — after seventeen years of fights and heartbreak and trying to distance themselves for their own benefit and the horrible experience of being codependent with somebody you hardly see every week, much less every day — until Scott Hunter, practically a child compared to the two of them, kisses his boyfriend on the ice after winning the cup.
What do they do then? Do they come out? Do they decide it's better to wait it out, since they're so close to retirement anyway? Does Shane get down on one knee, right then and there, and finally propose to the love of his life at thirty-six years old?
In the end, do they still come out in 2021? Is it the day they retire? Is it at their last MLH Awards? At their hall of fame induction? Are they, just barely forty now, a little grey around the temples, a little tight around the eyes?
Have they been mentors to Scott? To Troy, the poor kid Ilya helps out in his last season, and the other one, Luca? To Ryan, who he played with back in Boston (or did he? Was he still in Boston in 2014)? Are they friends with Eric, now that they're closer in age? To Wiebe, who is only a year older than them. With those other two guys that were mentioned as offhand references in TLG, who were made to retire when they came out in the wake of the Skip Kiss? How many more people exist amongst the older generation of gays that never got a chance because they were there a decade too early?
Ugh just there are all these cultural things that truly do make THAT much of a difference in a decade, and also all of these current-events happenings that would totally effect their story.
while my personal shane characterization is still taking shape in my head, I think a core part of #myshane is that he’s pretty lonely but doesn’t fully register it as loneliness because he’s just always felt that way. it’s normal to feel like there’s always this invisible barrier between you and other people that you don’t know how to climb over or pass through. it’s partly the maybe on the spectrum thing, it’s partly the child prodigy who was marked and set apart as Different from his peers at a young age, it’s partly the only child of overinvolved parents thing, it’s partly the young gay kid who learned early on to compartmentalize and deflect and lie by omission to himself and others thing. it’s a little bit of all of those things. shane’s not alone—he has teammates, he has his family, etc. but like… he’s lonely. and he just sort of assumes he’ll always be lonely because he can’t change who he is. you can’t just become someone different. and then ilya bulldozes his way into shane’s life and says I Like You Just As You Are (through his actions if not his words lol) and invites him again and again to play. and teaches him how to play. and shane goes oh—like this? like this? and then he’s goofing around with his friend, who knows him in all his prickly lonely awkwardness and still continually seeks out his company and likes him just as he is. and then he’s not lonely anymore.
Thinking about how the This Is Fine attitude in TLG that so many people criticize Shane for is actually just him thinking his loneliness and misery is normal and the whole time he's saying "everything is fine" and thinking this will be sustainable behavior for another decade, and he doesn't even think about those feelings, not when The Math says that he is dating the love of his life and winning stanley cups so obviously he's happy and Perfectly Fine with how things are going now. And then he gets married and starts living with his husband full-time and joins the Centaurs and is like. Oh. This is different.

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A thing I noticed on rereads is that Shane and JJ aren't friends in Heated Rivalry. In HR, JJ is fun, fashionable, and willing to fight Ryan Price for Shane while being adorably bad at hiding how nervous he is about that. He is also only ever described as Shane's teammate. In TLG, he's one of Shane's best friends on the Voyageurs. Here's how I think they could have gone from teammates to best friends, ordered from least to most hilarious (to me):
-they simply grew a friendship over the years between the books (boo, boring)
-they became friends after Shane came out to the Voyageurs because Shane was finally opening up to the team. This works with the TLG theme of "telling the truth is good for relationships and hiding the truth is bad for relationships" but it is not funny.
-they became friends after Shane came out to the Voyageurs because JJ is like a video game NPC who really really really values Honesty as a stat. Your Honesty stat goes up, you get +5 Friendship from JJ. (Unfortunately this also means if your Honesty stat goes down, you get +5 Betrayal from JJ, and that is sad instead of funny.)
-they became friends after Shane came out to the Voyageurs because JJ really really really likes gay people. I like to imagine JJ has dreams of becoming Montreal's #1 gay matchmaker. This version of JJ keeps headshots of all his gay friends in a folder in his phone. This is especially funny to me because of the prospect of Ilya and JJ teaming up to meddle in the lives of every single queer hockey player in the fake NHL.
-they became friends after Shane and Ilya announced the foundation and their friendship, and JJ looked on in horror at his beloved Capitaine having apparently been so in need of friends that he befriended the hockey equivalent of a demonic raccoon dragging around a trashcan full of dynamite and thus immediately stepped up his friendship game. In this metaphor the raccoon is also hot and really good at hockey and that is distressing to JJ and also to Hayden when JJ tells him about it via phonecall because JJ canonically hates texting and loves calling and this is the funniest option to me simply because I am very amused by the idea of Hayden continuing to be tormented by phone calls having to do with Ilya Rozanov.
you lot could NEVER make me hate jj for even A SECOND! and i AM judging you and calling you certain adjectives in my mind if you do.
he is the ONLY teammate besides hayden to openly acknowledge and engage w shane’s sexuality. this is a rly big deal in that boys’ aquarium. he tried to set up shane w dates bc he doesn’t want his bsf to be lonely, or be hung up on his crush on a ‘straight’ man. he offered to be his wingman. he even told shane he deserves a man who fulfils high standards, even higher than ilya rozanov, a world-famous pro-athlete.
he also was the ONLY person who noticed how upset shane was after hearing the ottowa centaurs’ plane news. he gave shane some space, then grabbed him a coffee the next morning and checked in w him to see if he’s alright. he obviously thought abt shane’s mental wellbeing A LOT beyond this interaction bc he even drew the conclusion that shane might have a crush on ilya, which is such an absurd idea in their world, that no one even dared to entertain it for years despite their odd pairing for the charity. during their conversation, he watched for clues of discomfort, taking away the shirt shane kept refolding nervously, and even tried to make shane laugh. i especially love that he went eye-level w shane when he noticed him drawing away, ducking his head and switching to their ‘secret’ language (french), evoking that this is a safe space and he can be honest w him bc it will stay between them. he reassured him that he takes shane’s feelings v seriously and would never make fun of him, reminding him that shane can rely on his support. and that hug was SO cute man, just engulfing shane entirely. what if i cried rn.
shane had been dating or rendezvous-ing w ilya, whatever you may call it, for a DECADE. jj was always there for shane, offering comfort, allyship, a safe space, all kinds of support. and shane never once even brought up the fact that he alr had a romantic involvement w someone, let alone w ilya. that must have felt like a punch in the gut to jj. he has been so forthcoming in his support all this time, and shane has been hiding this big, important secret from him. shane hurt his feelings. he must’ve been utterly confused and conflicted abt his perception and experience of their friendship. i think we should all cut him some slack, esp bc he did come through in the end.