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Born Again S2 rewatch and some cornplating: Episode 1-2
DISCLAIMER: I enjoyed Season 2, but this post contains a lot of criticism. But that comes from the place of love, and surely, I don't think anyone would actually object any of the thesis there.
It's nice to see a man, who's been struggling with suicidal ideation for quite a lot, being actually happy about surviving the night. There's something healing about seeing Matt smile as he realizes that he actually lived the ship's capsizing. He later also says that he actually wants to "get alive" out of Red Hook, which is so nice to hear from this guy. He actually grown over the years, and started to value his own life and be aspired to return to loved ones, which is not an explicit, but a very huge step in Matt's evolution as a character.
I still don't understand why they altered lighting in final cut. Promotional still image kinda implies it was actually digitally altered? The trailer one looks much more softer with golden light (thus more intimate?), it has deeper contrast and shadows that polish the shot. The pale overexposed blue just doesn't capture the weight of this "reunion", even it happened off-screen, and just generally makes eyes bleed. And the fact that it happens all across season just irks me so much, I can't. Like, why, why??
I also love to analyze the set and its details, because it might hide some stuff that tells something about the characters. For example, this one isn't really seen in the final cut itself, but Karen just loves to throw around her underwear, this is how comfortable she is in that appartment of theirs. Or it's Matt's bra? Who knows.
By the way, the abandoned attic is kinda Matt/Karen shtick in original comics. They move to similar place in original "Born Again" storyarc, when Karen returns to New York. Also, worth noting, that by this point, Matt and Karen are technically still hunted by Fisk. Even tho that place explodes, they still choose to live in some studio in the attic in "Predator's Smile" novel and Nocenti's run.
There are several continuity errors across the season, and I love chronology and story-consistency, so it bothers me very much. This Wanted poster keeps me at night. The first photo is just a shot from Episode 3, but it can be excused, 'cause our girl might not have lots of clothes or place for them (as we learned previously). But what's up with "court room trial of Mayor Wilson Fisk"? What does this refers to? What trial? When it happened? Why it happened? Do they meant like... The one that happens in Episode 8? Or what?
This little infodrop implies that Fisk isn't legally allowed to be involved in real estate or construction, his old businesses in original Season 1, even though he is a mayor now. This is a nice detail, I love that, but they didn't really delve into details of how exactlly Fisk was acquitted post-S3, so there's still so many question about his current status-quo.
Like I said, I'm a little obsessed about chronology, and this is my another ick. Second season is officially happening 6 months after the first, and yet, the show acts like it's been several weeks at max. Like, what do you mean BB and Karen never had a conversation about Ben, or meaningful enough for BB to know for sure that Karen was close with Ben? It begs the question about what exactly Matt and Karen were doing in those six months? I mean, I already came up with tons of fix-it headcanons, but still, they never adress this issue in the show itself.
The same goes for this scene. Like, did Matt and Karen never discussed whether or not they miss their past life, being the old selves, Nelson Murdock and Page? I guess as soon as they admitted feelings to each other they were just having a fun time for half a year straight, because it's kinda... Well, not consistent? Idk. Just so weird.
This is a nice way to acknowledge that Sister Maggie is still around and have a big chance of coming back soon, but I just don't understand, why Dex is looking for her specifically? From what we know about his POV, Sister Maggie just happens to be a random person who aided Karen and chatted with Ray a little bit, which kinda made him betray Fisk. So, Dex can't possibly know who Sister Maggie is to Matt (and by that extent, to Karen), and what function she has in Matt's life (which is mentorship and guiding one).
Also, this blue light very quickly becomes boring, so other episodes that not directed by Benson & Moorhead straight-up don't use it. I mean, it is a cool representation of Dex's mindset and inner turmoil, but it really gets overused like in a span of few episodes, just like the overlapping scenes, but that remained thru entirety of season. But if I was given a choice between this overlaps and Dex's blue light, I would choose the latter, cuz at least it's a cool method of "show don't tell"
We all heard about irritating MCU humor, but Born Again, despite it flaws, magically lands every single one of such jokes, and it doesn't disrupt the flow of narrative (unlike some serious moments). It suits Bullseye to be a little humorous, and they definitely leaned onto that aspect of a character this season, which was benefitial to overall portrayal of him being unhinged as hell.
This little moment in the bar also seems to be chopped up. It just fries me how much scenes were cut and I don't understand why. Like, there clearly was a dialogue before "cheers", but we just never see it. Like, what is Matt or Karen right about? What were they talking about prior to that? Why we can't just see them existing anymore? Like, this was such a good set-up for them to recall the events of BA 1x01, talk about Foggy and express high hopes, but they just cut that shit. Ugh.
This is important to me that after years of providing the comfort to others, Karen is one who receives it. She deserves all the kisses, and cuddles, and hugs, and strokes, and carreses and compliments, and I'm glad that it's Matt who gives her all that, a guy who struggled with not just accepting, but getting comfort himself. Also, love how quiet they are. It adds certain level of softness and tenderness to both, and it really shows how much healthier Matt and Karen dynamic became over the years, despite all the odds. Also, it has another little reference to original "Born Again" with black hole metaphor.
And this is the only example where I actually like overexposure, especially after disappointing yet another altered shot from the trailer with Daredevil's grin. I love the consistent angel leitmotiff within Karen's character, and dychotomy it creates with Matt's devilish imagery. Her 616 pet-name was "angel", her secret identity was "Paige Angel", and she clearly possess this certain "fallen angel" narrative in original Born Again comic. And this scene, man, it's so corny, I love it. Matt sits there in darkest (and may I notice, lowest) corner of stairs in his devil suit. And as soon as Karen arrives, an angelic chorus is in the background music and the brightest source of light appears, like she descended from literal heaven.
One thing I recall in your end of season review on DDBA s2 that stood out was this:
"Big action scenes were sparse and that’s why when we got them we were more than thrilled. Having this show be bombarded with action scene after another every single episode simply dilutes their importance and their impact on the story."
And it reminds me of one of the biggest weaknesses of season 2 of the Netflix show compared to seasons 1 and 3. It feels like there, they threw a lot of Matt's fights with the ninjas in to keep the audience from checking out. None of them really stand out compared to each of the individual big action scenes in the first half of season 2, or each big fight in seasons 1 and 3.
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Thanks for letting me know my words somehow stuck with at least one person! I tend to vent a lot on the internet about my grievances with the show and a lot of the time it feels like I’m screaming into the void lol
But yes exactly that. Season 2 of OG series is weaker than season 1 and 3 for this exact reason too imo. Focusing too much on the ~comics~ aspect of the show and adding a lot of fantastical elements as well as action scenes that feel… unearned simply makes for a less compelling and profound storytelling.
When Daredevil focuses on the human aspect and the crime drama like Deborah Ann Woll just described in the recent con event it makes for great TV. Because what has always made this show great was seeing Matt become the man and hero he is today, not shiny costumes and action for the sake of it… When the show adds superheroes on top of superheroes as well as people running around in costume like DDBA does… well I’m sorry but it simply ends up looking goofy and loses the « seriousness » that was there from the beginning.
I love that Daredevil exists in the Marvel realm. I really do. But I never wanted this show to become just like any other superhero show… its strength was always how mature it all felt DESPITE being a superhero show.
I think this is Disney and Marvel’s greatest weakness. They never know how to hold back and everything ends up feeling like a big blockbuster when it has no business being that. Just compare the budget of S1 and S3 of OG show with what they’re given nowadays. It all feels like such a waste of money… I always come back to Chloe Zhao’s quote about Eternals when she was on Hamnet’s press tour : “Eternals had, like, an unlimited amount of money and resources. And here we have one street corner that we can afford, to [stand in for] Stratford…. Eternals didn’t have a lot of limitations, and that is actually quite dangerous. Because we only have that street corner [in Hamnet], suddenly everything has meaning.”
This is what’s missing from the new Daredevil show. Creativity. Because when you don’t have a big budget you have to limit how many action scenes you can have and so when you do: they are impactful and ADD to the story.
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Heyyyyyyyy a fellow jonsa AND karedevil shipper ! Let’s celebrate that !!! The fact that they have many parallels too and I talked about it once on my twitter !! (Mostly about how the Sansa/Jon/D*ny and the Karen/Matt/El*ktra triangles were basically the same). Like maybe I *DO* ship the same ship in different font wait 🤔
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Syd roasting Richie about flirting with Jess inside the restaurant and comparing them touching hands to this scene from Tarzan was very funny.
It's pretty accurate, though? Richie is also an orphan like Tarzan who takes up with the Berzattos.
There are Disney references or alluding to Disney tropes throughout this show. But I feel like they're also upending Disneyesque expectations and taking the piss sometimes?
Like Syd's comment about Remy from Ratatouille as "that fucking rat" (the mouse house), even though she's the one who had taped him to the pass with a huge, shit-eating grin in the first place?
Which, the implication is...did they do that because they had to? Just like Ted randomly dropping in the name of a Disney Channel movie he watched in S4 tied to his cheesy romance with Kelly that doesn't get any play this season?
Anyway, Syd is basically saying here Richie has no game. And then how they giggle together and won't let Carmy in on the conversation is pretty telling.
Because Carmy isn't good at hiding things any more than Richie is. Carmy is very much a straight-man and will make it awkward if his situation with Syd was about to be compared to Richie and Jess.
But also, this moment with Tarzan and Jane is about silent communication that transcends words. Which is a hallmark of Sydcarmy and them finishing each other's sentences.
And isn't the end of Tarzan about them having to say Goodbye and it being unbearable to be parted and then Jane runs back to him? How she is worried about leaving her dad alone in England with out her (Syd and Emmanuel)?
Then Jane jumps into the water, and swims back to Tarzan. They run towards each other and she flings herself into his arms.
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