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I'm a massive Loustat/DM truther, massive Unholy Family enthusiast and I relate to Louis de Pointe du Lac on an intergalactic level.
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okay. coming from the desi armand fan: if your reaction to season 2 and 3 is to woobify him, if it's to choose that he was in the right, it it's to colour every interaction with the others as the sex worker he once was. if it's to take louis' sexual dominace as a genuine reflection of armand's character. i want you to know, in your heart, that an indian (me) considering every piece of info we have about this character, i comepletely consider all of the reads that disagree w those statements to be racist. i WILL consider you a racist. armand is a liar, manipulator, cheater, emotional abuser, mental abuser, murderer, monster, abuser in every possible definition. as a huge HUGE fan of armand, who is literally a delhiite bengali like arun seemingly was btw, he's an utterly irredeemable monster, just like lestat and louis and daniel, if you give two seconds of thought to who they are.
so as a bengali armand girlie: as jacob anderson said, give us the space to be problematic. give us the space to be whole and flawed creatures. armand being treated like a bitch by the rest of the cast is great bc they understand his character. only truly serious criticism this season about the vampire armand comes from W.H.I.T.E fans who cannot fathom the concept of adoring an evil character who is brown, so they Must dehumsnise him until he's their precious uwu bara japanime eyed puppygirl who is capable of no wrong, no agency, no personhood of his own. we are only people to them if we are good, and correct and obedient.
^^ let non-white characters be as problematic as everyone else. we deserve to also have characters that connect to us. we are imperfect human beings like everyone else.
Rag dolls are known for how limp they are. They have to be propped up, unlike other stuffed toys, and their limbs just sort of hang. If you held one up, its head would droop and its limbs would dangle. It cannot support itself at all.
I can still feel weight of the one I had as a child in my hands if I think about it hard enough. They aren’t regular dolls. They’re called rag dolls because, traditionally, they were made of leftover material and typically stuffed with rags instead of regular stuffing which makes them heavy. Comparing a person to that, I’d even say corpse-like. I had a really old one and it was the same size as me when I was young, so it was like dragging a body around. I couldn’t lift it on my own for several years.
“Rag doll for sale”
Little Arun is someone who can be manoeuvred into any position, who will not fight back and will be anything you want him to be. He is so perfectly submissive and pliant he may as well be a dead body.
And good news! You can customise him to your liking! You can dress him in different outfits, you can style his hair, you can even rename him! He’s all yours and he can’t do anything to stop you! You bought him, after all.
Jesus fucking Christ. All that to woobify the guy who is the biggest Marius fan in the books. He was going to show his ass eventually. This is just delaying the inevitable. This isn’t even high-school level analysis and Daniel Hart and the writers are too fucking smart and too good at what they do for people to be dumbing down the music like this.
everyone please Big Boss is NOT about shaming Armand about his past as Arun/Amadeo. it's not Lestat bullying over that Armand, the sarcastic labelling Armand being 'boss' in this first indicator that this song is nothing to do with his past as a victim of sexual slavery, it is about his time as 'boss,' about the hypocrital position of power he maintained as the Maitre of the Parisian Coven.
the line "rag doll for sale" is firstly a call back to 2x03 to Lestat's comment about the "grubs" and how he wished to maintain his "jabot collar" and not end up in rags like the Children of Darkness. when Lestat mentions "for sale" he is talking about Armand's principles. he is calling Armand a SELL OUT who adapts and develops his own interpretation of the Great Laws when it is beneficial to him, and switches sides depending on who grants him survival. something that is repeatedly called out in s2, even with Daniel's line in 2x06 of "Maitre in the bedroom? or maitre only when it's hot or convenient?" in Paris, Armand gives the pretence that he has allowed Louis to have power over him ("are you sure about that, Arun?" 2x04) because he is getting what he wants from him (a committed relationship) so he completely ignores the fact he was supposed to kill both Louis and Claudia in accordance with the Great Laws, because he is personally benefitting. however, the minute Louis begins acting outside this limited power he has been given, Armand immediately sides with the coven once more "they gave him a choice, and he chose." 2x06 and then conspires to kill Louis, Claudia and Madeleine. his attempt to defend himself in 2x08 says everything you need to know about Armand's tendencies as a sell out: "it was [Louis] or my coven of two hundred years, and i could not count on your love on lasting as long." HAD Louis not still been in love with Lestat, had Louis entered their relationship out of genuine love for Armand and NOT to initially protect Claudia, Armand is saying right here that he would have violated the Great Laws for him! that is a demonstration of his hypocrisy as the 'Big Boss'.
then these two lines show Lestat demonstrating Armand's pattern of behaviour. he says, "Big Boss wants to get you in his bed" this is a reference to how BOTH Lestat and Louis had people (Nicky and Claudia) who were used as "bait" to "ensare" them into *beginning* a relationship with Armand. ("are you inviting me in?" / "that depends. are you going to kill me or not?" 2x03) and the line "his kisses put me in a coma" is Lestat clearly referencing the murky underside to Armand's obsession with Lestat.
and of course, the most obvious lines are "if you're a boo-boo then he doesn't want you"/" only the Big Boss gets to decide who gets to stay alive and who dies." the former being reference to Nicky and Claudia as Armand only ever saw them as liabilities and weaknesses to the coven. and the latter being once again a reference to Armand's hypocrisy. he is saying here that at the trial HE SHOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN SENTENCED. "she is of my blood. i broke the second law. when you sentence them for their crimes, you sentence me, too." (2x07) except Armand doesn't have Lestat killed as well because he is too obsessed with him to let him die, so he gives him a free pass on execution despite the fact (under the pressure of Louis) HE is Claudia's MAKER. the literal person who made her at "fourteen years old."
of course Armand's sexual history is a very tragic aspect to his character and informs a lot of his current behaviour, but the assumption that EVERYTHING has to be about the fact he was Arun/Amadeo gets tedious because there is a LOT more to his character than just that. you must remember that the Amadeo/Arun element to him is 100% about his victimhood, but 'Armand' is also reflective of his role as perpetrator. Armand from his experiences understands how power works, *cough cough* looking at you Bench Scene in 2x04, and he knows how to manipulate it to get what he wants. only ever picturing him as vulnerable as he was during the Amadeo/Arun days really stifles the other elements of his character (the gremlin ones) that i personally love to see.
(also Sam literally says the song is about the TRIAL and nothing to do with Armand's backstory in the BTS.)
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Do you have any spoilers regarding louis being the next in armand's apology tour? the streets are saying louis' going to suffer even more when that happens and i am going to seriously quit this godamn show for doing such disserive to louis
yknow how i started coping with everything in this season? i think the only way to find any enjoyment in it is to fully embrace that this is purely lestat's pov. very biased one. the narrative he wants to present from the future. this obviously won't change the fact that this is a total waste of time to watch this season and how boring it is, but at least some things become less annoying.
louis' storyline this season will start making way more sense when you take this into account. because of fucking course lestat would depict louis struggling sooo much without lestat in his life, lonely, abandoned and unloved by everyone. ofc lestat would depict himself as a bitter reluctant knight who eventually runs to save poor louis from misery. this is basically the end of s1e1 again, except from lestat's pov.
and yes, it sounds weird that lestat from the future would depict himself both as the villain of the story, someone who hurt and abandoned louis, and the hero who "saves" him, but... this is lestat we're talking about.
...Louis *is* struggling without Lestat in his life. he is lonely. Lestat is the love of Louis life and vice versa. his line to Lestat of a "cry for help" in 3x02 is a projection. he needs help, yet he is refusing to reach out Lestat because as usual, he is burying his head in the sand and does not want to address how much the book "hurt" Lestat. Louis is struggling so much, he always has been, even in HIS own narration of the first two seasons. Louis is a deeply melancholy, deeply guilt-ridden character who is always in a state of emotional turmoil, (i have a linked post addressing this here) Lestat's narration does not change this.
Lestat "saving poor Louis from his misery" is expected because they are fundamentally best friends and lovers, the least you would expect them to do for each other at their hours of need is to go to one another and try their best to support one another. this works BOTH WAYS. Lestat is also at his lowest we have ever seen in the entire the show, there is not doubt that in this season we will see Louis also supporting him. it is simply how their relationship works. they bring out the worst in each other, but at the end of the day they are the only two people who truly understand one another, who can be completely vulnerable with one another. they are tragic lovers, that is just the plot of the show. im not really sure i understand your reference to s1 ending and would love it you could clarify :)
and i just want to put it out there that there are no "villains" or "heroes" in IWTV. every single character lies upon the spectrum of moral ambiguity. also, how did Lestat abandon Louis was Louis was the one who MURDERED HIM? no one denies that Lestat wasn't abusive (or that Louis wasn't either) but to say that Lestat abandoned him (which directly conflicts with a key component of Lestat's character: "it's why i don't particularly like being abandoned" 1x06) is not correct.
hey everyone, first i want to say a big thank you for all the people who actually read all of my essays and like them and stuff because they are a LOT, and i am very grateful for it and the positive support/engagement i have received. basically, alongside my fanfic writing, i am working on a long IWTV (s2)/ Shakespeare's 'Othello' (that absolutely NO ONE asked for lol) comparison, that i want to have posted before episode five drops because i already known that i will have so much to say. so what im asking is if you have any questions/thoughts or just random ideas you want me to answer or share my opinion on, could you do so now so i can also try my best to squeeze in responses and give them the attention they deserve because i really do love answering the asks you send me and bouncing off some of the responses i get in the comments (that i still can't flipping reply to) and would like to leave enough time to get to everything. (it takes me like over an hour to write out my essays lol)
I like the fact that Loustat have the same kind of crazy. They’re both desperate for the same kind of connection, emotional intimacy and companionship, but seeking it out either in people who have no interest in giving it or in people they have no business seeking it from in the first place. Like, if yall don’t just turn around lol
I mean, they have no business getting back into a romantic relationship right now. That would just lead to another disaster. But they started out as friends and still are each others’ best friend in the whole world. That’s the foundation that connected them in the first place and is what they really need to return to.
i really loved that breakdown Assad did about the purpose/intentions of each specific apologies, and the acknowledgment of Armand's Lestat obsession in his Autumn Brown interview. i just love that all the cast are just so dedicated to understanding their characters, it brings me so much joy.
As a child who escaped a seriously fucked up household, I cannot take you seriously if you put all the blame for Claudia’s situation on one parent. Louis and Lestat were both her parents. They both made a series of choices that failed her. Honestly if you stand for Claudia you acknowledge that, or you own up to the fact it’s not about her in your argument.
this!! you cannot talk about Lestat and Claudia if you do not address the environment and dynamic of the Unholy Family in its entirety. they're one of my favourite parts of the show (surprise surprise there with what im always yapping about haha) but an integral part of understanding or "defending" Claudia is recognising the way she was raised by BOTH her parents. understanding Louis' responsibility in the dynamic between Claudia and Lestat is what explains a lot of her frustrations and resentment in season 2. you cannot fully appreciate the depth of Claudia's tragedy if you do not also hold Louis as accountable as you do Lestat. seeing her character weaponised as a tool to bring down Lestat's character writing is ironic considering the fact that people often say that she only exists to "prop up" Lestat. but where are the people really willing to talk about her except in relation to how much of a bad parent Lestat was? it's disheartening to see, and to see Louis' agency somehow be robbed in the sense that "he couldn't do anything" in relation to Claudia and Lestat. his inaction is parental failure in itself "i didn't like me in it, PASSIVE, selfish, a liar...and not the lying to myself kind- a fucking liar." (3x02) Louis lets her down just as much as Lestat does. he can still be a sympathetic character in spite of these failings. Lestat can also be a sympathetic character in spite of these failings. not everything is black and white.
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We’re at the halfway point of the vampire lestat. I wanted to make another post about this because I have heard things do change in the next few episodes, but this is for me to gather my thoughts more than anything.
I had a lot of anxiety leading up to this season as a rape survivor. I knew I would have to watch carefully, and filter the discourse I consumed. I am admittedly surprised by the season in some ways, but disappointed in others. I’m going to really zero in on two sequences, and talk specifically about framing and color. For reference, framing is what is shown in a scene. The details shown often tell us more about what the characters or writers want us to know. Color grading has to do with contrast, exposure, and the colors that are exaggerated in a scene. Color can also be used to tell a story.
CW for rape, abuse, and incest going forward. Please scroll by if you don’t want to read further.
I was shocked that Magnus’ scene was actually handled more sensitively than I expected, specially after the “your biggest fan” misdirect. When I look at this scene, I can see the anguish in Lestat’s face. The scene with Magnus and Lestat itself is clearly not consensual, and it’s not up for interpretation. He indeed did not ask for this. There’s a struggle, and even the still cap has Lestat’s arm bent at an odd angle.
Now let’s look at color. I just color picked from a few different spots in each picture.
Lestat’s face had this deep blue, sickly green, and brown tones. It’s a very subdued palette. Greens and blues are often used in the horror genre or in pensive, slow, or upsetting sequences.
The full body shot was similar- more prominent on the blues, and a strike of yellow. There’s actually some really interesting literature on yellow in horror movies as a sign of rot, decay, and death, which I’m sure the writers are aware of. But still, the scene is mostly blue. It’s a cold scene.
Now for Gabriella and Lestat’s scene- there are a few. I’m focusing in on the one after the priest. Lestat says they were mother and son when she tended to him after the wolves, in a last ditch effort to have her acknowledge their relationship as parent and child. She then says I love you and beckons him into bed, rejecting his wish to return to their familial relationship. He can accept her offer for companionship by sleeping with her, or he can have nothing.
This too, is a sexual encounter Lestat did not want. It is also not consensual.
That said, it bees my wilders that it was depicted the way it was.
We know from watching the scene this is horrific, and it left him with further attachment trauma. Out of context? It looks like a typical romance scene, complete with the lead going in for a kiss and a with a gentle hand on the shoulder for encouragement even though that is not what this scene is. It is abuse. The next frame doesn’t help that case. It is one of the most explicit sex scenes we have seen even though Lestat was coerced into it. His hand is on her bare thigh, yet we know he doesn’t want to be there. From the framing, you could almost forget that. Maybe you’re meant to. I would argue this is by design due to the color choices.
These are warm tones, and the whole scene has a much higher exposure than the Magnus scene does. A warm color palette is often associated with romance, or even intimacy. The high exposure can bring a dreamy quality- and perhaps on its own this would have been fine because a flash back is a dream like sequence, but paired with the warm, romantic colors it starts to send a message that “this is dreamy” and not “this is a memory” as the scenes with Magnus did, even with darker exposure.
Once again, a similar warm color palette and high exposure is used here. If we dig into it, some of these peachy tones are sepia like- associated with warm nostalgia. Which… maybe not the vibe being molested by your mother is meant to evoke.
Anyway. What have I come to with all of my thoughts collected here? I guess I’m relieved they didn’t totally fumble Magnus, but shockingly disappointed with where they’ve taken Gabriella at the halfway point. We can talk about in universe explanations, such as Lestat hasn’t come to terms with it yet (agreed) but if we look at choices made in our world to frame and color grade it seems there are still double standards for f/m and m/m relationships. They are there even when it comes to abuse, rape, and violence- which is deeply disturbing to me. But rape is rape. It doesn’t matter who does it. I’m a little disappointed it’s been treated a bit haphazardly in some scenes, seeing as I now know this team can do better. I didn’t expect to be talking about this, actually. I thought this post would look different. But so far, this is what I’ve gathered.
It’s off my chest now. Maybe I can try and look at some other things now.
okay wow the time and effort that must have gone into this is really admirable, i LOVE your analysis on colouring (im so bad at anything artsy so i always love when people do colour/art analysis in literature and media) and i think your thoughts here are really interesting. i wouldn't say i have any concrete ideas of my own at this point, so forgive me because this is just me thinking out loud, but would you say that the framing of the gabistat incest as a love scene is more of Lestat's conscious attempt to water things down? with Magnus, that memory came as an emotional so breakdown, he was unable to push Magnus "back inside" so everything burst through the floodgates as it actually happened, in all its full horror.
during 3x04, as heart breaking as it is to see, we see that Lestat is spiralling because he his longing for Gabriella. ("it didn't feel like nine days."), so could this "romantic" framing of the scene somehow be representative of that? it is implied that this is the moment they fully breach the sexual boundary in its entirety "when you tended my wounds, we were mother and son" so Lestat framing it as this shared moment between them as they 'transcended' into a new relationship as "dark monarchs" instead of mother son, gives the feeling that you see in old Hollywood films where two characters having sex for the first time or losing their virginity to one another is meant to symbolise a change in the relationship. could Lestat trying to present it in such a "nostalgic" like be another attempt of him trying to convince himself that he does want this different relationship by almost trying to romanticise the night things fully changed for them? by trying to convince himself that it's what he wanted in hopes Gabriella would return?
ugh this is all so gross to type out. as someone who loves gothic lit the writers really aren't pulling their punches with the display of incest. i don't know though once again this was me thinking out loud. do you think this could be a possibility?
I'm so tired of claudia/lestat parallels in the show, fandom, and interviews with the cast. They're overdone, oversaturated, and so very boring. They ultimately only ever serve as masturbatory laments on lestats traumatic upbringing and they disservice claudia as a character by reducing every one of her traits and actions to falldown from her white abuser. The ripped out pages scene was particularly egregious but theyve been doing this for a long time.
the Lestat/Claudia parallels have always existed in the narrative, that is just the plot of the show and the books. in the books Lestat refers to her the "evil of my evil." her character writing is not "masturbatory" to Lestat at all, in s2 we see great developments of Claudia's character that has nothing to do with Lestat because as far as the ending of episode 6, she believes him to be dead. i don't really agree with this idea that Claudia and Lestat's trauma is competitive and one exists to draw the other down. literature and any story writing is BUILT on character parallels, foils and mirrors.
Claudia is Lestat's mirror character- a character who shares similar traits whilst being different in the way they respond to these similarities, which i take as this being their response to and rejection of victimhood, something i have written about previously.
just branding Lestat as her "white abuser" evaporates all the nuance from one of the most complicated dynamics in the entire show (that i am more than happy to discuss with you), and i think that does more of a disservice to both of them than their roles as parallel characters. they've always been parallel characters since Claudia's introduction in 1x04 "who was it she takes after again?" that is just the show.
it’s almost like people know NOTHING of the source material and never even watched the 1994 movie.
Claudia is a tragic character meant to represent the tragicness of life because that’s how she was written. She was inspired by a little girl whose life was cut short, thus making her story always traumatic and sad.
im really trying hard not to get flabbergasted by some of the opinions this season but my mind is actually being blown. personally disliking the story is not the same the story being objectively bad. hitting Lestat with the "evil person" broom is not some kind of proof that you are a Claudia stan, it is not the fault of any characters, the cast or the production team if this thematic parallel was always present IN THE SOURCE MATERIAL. they writers aren't just pulling these characters and plots from thin air, everything is embedded in the books (for the most part). Claudia and Lestat are paralleled because that is simply how Anne wrote it. the show has only elevated and developed these characters and their respective dynamics to adapt to their changes. Claudia never had a happy ending, she was written to help Anne process her grief. she is a character enmeshed in turmoil and tragedy and the responses of other characters to her in this show (namely Louis) reflect this. the anger that Lestat is somehow "replacing her" or "overshadowing" her trauma is nonsensical. she had her arc. allow Lestat his arc as well.
So I saw this screencap from the review/recap above and got so pissed off about it that I wrote a whole response.
Let's start things off with a few disclosures: I have never taken a journalism class. I have a loose grasp on grammar that gets looser when I like the vibes of a run-on sentence and tighter when I see clear copyediting errors from international news conglomerates. I have no background in criticism other than watching Ratatouille.
With that out of the way, I can begin with a question, which is as follows: When did sincere, serious engagement with media get steamrolled in favor of TikTok-speak-laden, millennial irony masquerading as Gen Z nihilism, poorly copyedited and under-researched recaps that read like an over-drafted Twitter thread? Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all for utilizing new slang and turns of phrase in journalistic writing. It's 2026! You're writing about a TV show, not submitting a paper to an academic journal. I'm also not saying that reviews need to be serious analysis, necessarily. I realize that sounds contradictory. I don't think it is. You could write a 5,000 word masterfully-composed thinkpiece on one singular scene or a bullet-point list of plot and character beats – my issue is not with the type or the format of content. The issue here is that many of the pieces I have read don't respect the art of what the authors are engaging with enough to meet it on the level it is trying to speak to them on.
Maybe I'm judging too harshly, and the authors of such pieces are simply adopting the sort of voice that makes screenshots from their articles go viral. It's not a bad strategy if all you care about is hits, and I don't want to put blame for that on the authors. I'm sure the editors and the higher-ups are at fault for much of the tone of this questionable content. But I think we should take a step back and question how we talk about a show that is handling extremely heavy topics that are deeply personal to many viewers in an unflinching, skilled, carefully-crafted way, and ask ourselves whether this is really what we want to be flippant about, and whether there is a point where flippancy crosses the line from a cheeky audience-relational tone to genuine (if unintended) disrespect towards the creative team who made the show what it is.
Case in point: calling Lestat a goo-goo eyed simp. I like Lestat as a character, obviously, but this is such a mind-boggling tone deaf description of him in this scene that it makes me physically angry. Let’s step back and analyze what’s happening in this scene, shall we?
Lestat and Gabriella, who are son and mother and maker and fledgling, are traveling together after leaving Paris in the flashback
In the present day, Gabriella has left. She does not answer her phone or most text messages that Lestat sends her. This sends Lestat into a spiral, shown both by the excellent score from Daniel Hart and the chaotic editing of the party scene, with quick-fire flashbacks and the appearance of the muses.
In the beach scene flashback, Gabriella is telling Lestat that she wants to be pure evil, and Lestat is reluctantly going along with her future desires because he wants to be with her.
That’s the best I can do for a bare-bones analysis of the character dynamics and relevant plot points here. You may notice one very glaring omission. That is the revelation of the “start” of their incestuous sexual relationship as vampires. It informs so much of the later beach scene flashback, and it is incredibly harrowing to watch.
In the scene, we see Lestat confront Gabriella as she is in the middle of sex with a priest. He tells her he could hear her through the walls. It’s immediately obvious that the scene in the previous episode, where Gabriella leaves in the middle of Lestat’s interview — just when he’s getting into the story of Nicki, a clearly painful and vulnerable moment — to have extremely loud sex with Jarda, Lestat’s body double (whom she asks to put on the Lestat wig before meeting her in the bathroom) is a parallel. At the time, we understood this as a response to Lestat setting the boundary of not having sex with Gabriella. This episode, it's clear that this it also must have triggered the memory we're seeing play out now.
Gabriella kills the man, and Lestat gets more or less to the point: when Gabriella tended his wounds (and sexually assaulted him) back when they were both human, they were mother and son. Sam Reid's powerhouse performance makes it obvious that this is something Lestat has been struggling with for some time. Lestat knows that it was wrong then, and, crucially, he knows it is wrong now. Gabriella may feel untethered from the role of wife, mother, and woman by vampirism, but Lestat is unable to sever his relationship from her as his mother, a relationship already severely muddied by the sexual abuse we both saw on-screen and hear later in this episode when Lestat sings "By candlelight/You used to teach me how to kiss," a line seemingly about Gabriella and their shared history. Vampirism is not going to undo the years of sexual abuse he had to go through with his mother, who he describes as cold and emotionally witholding, or unentangle what must be a deeply confusing relationship to sex, being sexually desired, emotional closeness, love, and parent-child relationships. It is a deeply, deeply fucked-up relationship. Gabriella's answer to Lestat trying to confront her about the incest is one word: "And?"
And then follows a scene that, for me, was more difficult to watch than Magnus' rape of Lestat. Gabriella whispers "I love you." We watch Lestat's face, tightly framed by the shot and by shadow, as he struggles against tears and loses. Gabriella repeats it, and Lestat, looking lost and extremely distraught, kisses her. The camera focuses on his face in the following two shots of them having sex. His expression is pained. We hear the sound of waves crashing on the shore, foreshadowing the scene on the beach. This is the price of Gabriella's love. This is what he has to do to keep her with him. And, in the scene just before she leaves him, we see that even this is not enough.
The showrunner, Rolin Jones, was quoted as saying that they aren't portraying the incestuous relationship just to portray it or for shock value (sorry for the clumsy paraphrase, Rolin). This relationship, and this abuse, is fundamental for understanding why Lestat is the way he is in the present moment, why he does the things he does, why he acts the way he acts, and why he makes the choices he makes. The show is handling an extremely difficult topic with unflinching understanding of the impact this sort of abuse has on survivors, and I think it should be lauded for not trying to shy away from or soften what happens between Gabriella and Lestat. They're showing it as Lestat remembered and experienced it. They aren't letting us look away from the monstrosity of it all. Are you uncomfortable? Good. You're supposed to be.
With all of that in mind, I want to return to the "goo-goo eyed simp" description of Lestat. My issue with this is much larger than any read of his character. Yes, I know this is a show about vampires, and yes, Lestat is a larger-than-life hurricane full of modern slang, quips about current trends, and pronunciations of words that I'm pretty sure have never been spoken before. I wouldn't be surprised if he calls himself a goo-goo eyed simp at some point. That's not what pisses me off. What pisses me off is the complete and utter refusal to meet the show where it stands.
To me, characterizing Lestat in this scene as a goo-goo eyed simp who will "go along with whatever mommy wants, as long as they're together" and describing Gabriella's reaction to his drawing of a wedding ring in his blood around her finger as giving her, "the ickiest vamp alive! [...] the ick" isn't just a two-for-one example of slang-based humor not landing – it's dismissive of the entire character arc of the episode in a way that feels genuinely disrespectful to everyone involved. It's like the reviewer/recapper equivalent of scrolling through reels while your friend tries to tell you a story, and only half-heartedly chiming in to make fun of them for mispronouncing a word or ask a question about a minor detail that has very little to do with what the story means to them. It reads as though the author doesn't care enough to pay attention to the show to keep track of what's actually going on (Gabriella wants to be free from everything and everyone! She wants to lean fully into the evil side of vampirism! She knows Lestat's heart isn't in it and that he will always be a reminder of her mortal past and of her ties to the world! That's why she leaves! Not because she gets the fucking ick! This is a fundamental part of her character!!).
You can have different opinions on this show and what it is trying to accomplish than I do. But even most of the bad-faith criticisms I've seen about TVL are preferable to this shallow, dismissive style of review. They, at least, engage with the show from the view that it is trying to say something.
This form of summary – reducing incredibly complex relationships and dynamics down to things like "getting the ick" and "simping" – is a blatant refusal to engage with the show at all. And while I can acknowledge that comedy has its place in critique, you need to actually understand what you're writing about to be funny about it. The best jokes are funny because they're true. The worst ones, in my opinion, are written like they're intended to be quote tweeted. What you lose when you refuse the hand the creative team behind this show holds out to you is both the opportunity to be emotionally moved by a story and the respect of your audience.
In conclusion I didn't read the article because I'm not fucking paying to unlock the paywall so this is all based off approx 2 sentences total but i think its deserved. bye
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im sorry for being a hater i really am. but they should have made a sopranos style drama about the 70 years armanlou spent together. or a prequel abt louis' childhood. or a third season about the glitzy and messy consequences of the bait and switch of claudia's unexpected survival and return in 2022. or a marius/armand spinoff. there were possibilities post s2 for something that was not--from what im hearing viewers say--painfully boring, rash, & thoughtless but you would not know that from hearing lestat's fifth attempt at recreation of a tiktok trend through dialogue in his real fake life
but why would a show that is based off an entire 13 book series NOT one, go in chronological order of the canon, and two, create a series about the most important character of the franchise and Anne Rice's most well known character? i get not liking Lestat but actually thinking that he would not get his own seasons (bearing in mind TVL is 200 pages longer than IWTV) is very unrealistic. this was always going to happen, the show has been gearing towards since the very first episode so by saying the choice of having the third season of the show be The Vampire Lestat is "thoughtless" doesn't really make much sense. of course everyone is welcome to dislike this season if they want, but this season was always going to happen. IWTV was never even meant to span two seasons it just ended up happening that way.