Cornskin

I rewatched the second fnaf movie last night and I needed more of the Afton siblings :)

It's actually pathetic at how bad Scott handled these two, I was hoping to see these two as a messy couple just trying their best to move on but they barely had any real screentime just talking together other than the dating scene and the one outside Mike's house and then he gives us this half assed conflict between these two that makes Mike have a whole 180?

Scott tried so hard to make a conflict between the two when it doesn't make sense at all and just makes Mike have a total 180 to even make it happen

This might not make any sense at all because I have only watched the movie once and might not be remembering correctly, but...

Is Lisa (Mckenna Grace's character) killed instantly like her friends? Is she killed after the puppet is done inhabiting her body? or does she die BECAUSE she was possessed for so long?

At the end of the movie we see Abby being possessed as well but just for a short bit, and still, when she comes back to herself she's clearly struggling like it was exhausting/damaging for her body.

CAN being possessed by Puppet kill you?

HOW LONG IS VANESSA GOING TO BE POSSESSED?

I don't really see Vanessa dying because of THAT as a possibility but... (call me crazy) if she's walking around with Puppet controlling her body for a ridiculously long amount of time, COULD this possibly lead to a half-dead, half-alive situation like Michael Afton in the games after he was scooped?

There is a very stark difference between how Lisa is possessed versus Vanessa. Lisa is seen thrashing on the ground, her body contorting as the puppet fights for control. She’s in a completely different spot from when the puppet first attacked, so we can assume Lisa put up a good fight. Even if the puppet was victorious in that possession, Lisa’s consciousness still may have been fighting. That constant push and pull could be what caused her to die so fast, Lisa’s energy was being drained because she was exerting it.

On the other hand you have Vanessa’s possession. There is no struggle. There is no contorting of her body. She doesn’t even move. There’s no fight as the puppet possesses Vanessa. Because of the lack of fight on Vanessa’s end, Charlotte doesn’t have to actively take more energy than she can use. It’s basically like having another body. This is at least my theory.

I have my reasons as to why Vanessa was so quick to let the possession happen, and if you are interested you can continue reading. Basically, she feels like she has nothing. She just abandoned Michael, her biological family, and was abandoned by her chosen family. She is also wracked with guilt for her and her father’s past, so when Charlotte possesses her it’s not like she feels like she has anything to lose. If anything, she’s doing Charlotte a favor. She’s giving Charlotte a chance to live the life that was taken from her.

meanwhile vanessa:

Specifically the conversation between her and Mike at the police supply outpost. When she starts talking about William, her father and a child murderer, she seems to use somewhat childish(?) wording. It sounds a bit condescending to describe it like that, but I don't know what else to call it.

Not only does her voice shake a little, but the way she talks about him to Mike ("He was a very bad man. A very cruel man. Also a very clever man."), it seems like something you would expect a child to say about a villain. It's very simple and straight-forward. Children tend to lack filters and/or awareness, so they speak very matter-of-factly.

So, when she says that, I think Vanessa is sort of regressing to a more childlike state. Both as a result of childhood trauma and because that's what she feels like in that moment. She feels like a child as she's talking about her father.

Other people have already pointed out how William even treats her like a kid during the confrontation in the pizzeria, equating her standing up for herself and her friends to her having a temper tantrum.

In addition to that, Vanessa is also speaking quite slowly. She sounds fearful, hesitant, and a bit out of it. There's a pause between "He was a very bad man," and "A very cruel man." She's not looking at Mike when she says this, either. It seems like she could be reliving her trauma or having flashbacks to the source of her trauma—whether this trauma is from possibly witnessing the MCI, or from abuse at the hands of William, or both.

There's also the moment where Mike tells her to come with him and Vanessa refuses. It's obvious that she'll refuse just by the way she reacts before she outright says it, like she's surprised or even a bit annoyed that Mike wants her to go with him. Then she's stumbling backwards and busying her hands.

I think the words she uses to justify staying at the outpost instead of confronting William are very interesting.

"I won't be any use to you, believe me."

Instead of saying something akin to, "I won't be able to help you," she highlights and emphasizes her usefulness, or the lack thereof. This makes me think that not only did William see her as a tool more than his daughter, but he made it clear to her throughout her life that that's what he thinks of her and therefore she also measures herself by her usefulness.