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So are we gonna do a thing about transmisogynists? anything? Or are we just gonna keep reblogging and it's okay if they do a bit of hal as their main job as long as their side job is funny

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This is missing the full context, which is even better/worse
"hey it feels like even amongst people who considered themselves committed to social justice and at the recent high-water-mark of that social current, it's never been fully & satisfactorily discussed digested & absorbed that trans women consistently get depicted this vile way in media"
"um people have definitely mentioned that out loud before lol you are young and therefore stupid and entitled and though i'm not saying it i'm also implying that you (trans woman) are being overly sensitive and nitpicking and nobody cares lmao"
she's obviously right. what the fuck is wrong with you people. this is funny? this is some kind of Epic Own to you? you dunk-brained shit eating peanut gallery motherfuckers are so twitter poisoned that all someone has to do is be snide, they don't even need to have a point, you'll all bark and clap like fucking seals. kill yourselves
But like, what films is she talking about
Psycho (1960) & The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Dressed to Kill, Ace Ventura: Pet Detective, this list is so much longer than you think it is no matter how long you think it is.
Longlegs, from one or two years ago
Plus Weapons, who's transmisogynistic caricature won an Oscar, and it's director gets to helm the new Resident Evil movie, which said franchise recently announced it's Code Veronica Remake, which itself had a transmisogynistic caricature that had it's loveable protagonist call a crossdressing freak.
Also the guy who made Obsession made Milk and Serial, and the way to show how evil the YouTube prankster is for him to put on a mask with poorly done make up.
People are too busy hyping up these films and directors for bringing in a "horror Renaissance" to discuss the transmisogyny all over their work. They are getting awards and more work explicitly because of their transmisogyny. No one is fucking talking about this. And if some people (Primarily trans women) do, they'll ignore it because of how good these movies are, just like with Psycho and Silence of the Lambs.
This is missing the full context, which is even better/worse
"hey it feels like even amongst people who considered themselves committed to social justice and at the recent high-water-mark of that social current, it's never been fully & satisfactorily discussed digested & absorbed that trans women consistently get depicted this vile way in media"
"um people have definitely mentioned that out loud before lol you are young and therefore stupid and entitled and though i'm not saying it i'm also implying that you (trans woman) are being overly sensitive and nitpicking and nobody cares lmao"
she's obviously right. what the fuck is wrong with you people. this is funny? this is some kind of Epic Own to you? you dunk-brained shit eating peanut gallery motherfuckers are so twitter poisoned that all someone has to do is be snide, they don't even need to have a point, you'll all bark and clap like fucking seals. kill yourselves
But like, what films is she talking about
Psycho (1960) & The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Dressed to Kill, Ace Ventura: Pet Detective, this list is so much longer than you think it is no matter how long you think it is.
The fact that most of the notes under these reposts think it's talking about Rocky Horror, a musical that explicitly states that Frank-N-Furter is a "transvestite", when the tweet explicitly says "each films go to great lengths to say [they] are absolutely not transvestites" shows that we are not even having this conversation at all when you misinterpret what films are being discussed this badly.
"This 21 year old is sooooo stupid! She didn't even know people were already talking about Rocky Horror" when she wasn't even fucking talking about Rocky Horror is the perfect encapsulation of you fucks transmisogyny.
Get pissy at a trans woman for pointing out how little transmisogyny is discussed, let alone reckon with how prevalent it is in media, then not even get the examples she was talking about correct.
Also saw that some of you reblog from zionists, rot in a ditch child killers.
ngl kinda hate that "this has been discussed extensively you're just 21" tweet cos it was directed at a trans woman who was getting dogpiled for saying that the "dangerous man in a dress" horror trope is shitty
she was born in 2005, the right wing culture war against trans people has been going on for half her life, if she independently arrives at a correct take then how is that something worth mocking?? you got flowers sprouting through concrete, water them dumbass
my dipshit six year old: if the earth is round how come we don't fall off??
me: lol we learned that in science class 20 years ago 🤣 prick
infinite strangers online: okay this is an all time dunk
And of course Txttletale and her shit ass circle reblogged that post.
She and her circle are just not going to stop bringing up the pedophile posts until Missstrogen kills herself, huh?
A big reason Missstrogen was suicidal at the beginning of the year, and is currently suicidal right now, is because of transfeminists like Txttletale and innerchildabortionclinic pulling this shit. The relentless backstabbing she has experienced the past over half a year is fucking ruining her and so many of the transfeminists on here do not fucking care.
Just flag this fuck and her circle as red already, I'm tired of seeing transfeminists and communists trusting the words of a backstabbing shit heel.

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And of course Txttletale and her shit ass circle reblogged that post.
She and her circle are just not going to stop bringing up the pedophile posts until Missstrogen kills herself, huh?
A big reason Missstrogen was suicidal at the beginning of the year, and is currently suicidal right now, is because of transfeminists like Txttletale and innerchildabortionclinic pulling this shit. The relentless backstabbing she has experienced the past over half a year is fucking ruining her and so many of the transfeminists on here do not fucking care.
And of course Txttletale and her shit ass circle reblogged that post.
She and her circle are just not going to stop bringing up the pedophile posts until Missstrogen kills herself, huh?
And of course Txttletale and her shit ass circle reblogged that post.
oh we're shitting on isff again with txttletale? why am i even suprised and disapointed
sincerely have no idea what you're talking about, have you considered addressing your emotions in a way that doesn't involve anonymously bothering me? I have nothing but good things to say about @missstrogen, I think she's perfectly wonderful
for context. Anyway hi everyone I've had a horrid day. Lost a friend and community among others
seeing "protect the action figures" as a response to "Protect the dolls" is maybe the most insulting thing I've ever seen, to both trans men and trans women.
First of all, the term "protect them dolls" exists because trans women, and especially trans women of color, are killed disproportionally. you are literally "all lives matter"-ing this. Secondly, can we stop this stupid fucking trend of giving gay/trans men the worse version of something that already exists for women?

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Also let's be honest, this Gnoc guy is either a bot or an alt account. No profile pic, one name with a bunch of letters. Swarms of you fuckers reblogging this literal troll post just so you can get a dunk in on the trans women talking about this. Only reason I even know about this was because lunt posted the original tweet so we could see the context for this hashtag epic all timer insult (Get it!? She's young so she's stupid and doesn't know better!), while most reposts apparently only included the "you're just 21" part of the exchange.
Had to screenshot because reblogs got turned off, but even just "talking about it" is incorrect. The popularity of Pyscho and The Silence of the Lambs and their status as classics have pretty much superseded any sort of discussion about their transmisogyny in most horror spaces. I am very confident in this assertion because Dead Meat, the most popular and mainstream way and gateway into horror in the internet space, just fucking ignored the massive transmisogyny inherent to both of those movies when they covered them on the Kill Count. James does discuss the protests done against The Silence of the Lambs, but never specified trans women being affected by the character he literally describes as a "mentally ill crossdresser". He makes a few remarks to "trans people" and primarily focuses on how it affects gay men, but never trans women. And James completely glosses over the same thing in the Psycho kill count.
I said this already, but I am NOT looking forward to when they decide to cover Rocky Horror. I know very well that they will ignore the multiple interviews where it's creator explicitly says trans women will never be real women and that they're sympathetic for J.K. Rowling after being rightfully dogged on for being a transmisogynistic monster. I knooooow.
The Dead Meat team have been repeatedly transmisogynistic and I'm fucking sick of it.
I've seen from other posts talking about this that this applies to modern horror as well, if anything it's even more guilty. There's Long Legs (Directed by the son of the guy who played Norman Bates), Weapons (Whose transmisogynistic caricature, Aunt Gladys, won a fucking Oscar and the success of which landed the director the ability to helm the new fucking Resident Evil movie), Milk and Serial (In order to show how scary the evil YouTube prankster is, he wears a mask with poorly put on make up. I wonder what this reminds me of! He also made fucking Obsession right after and got a shit load of cash and critical success from it AND is getting more movie deals!) Transmisogynistic caricatures are not only more common than ever in the horror scene, but are being actively rewarded in both indie and mainstream success.
And guess what? In none of the Kill Counts discussing Long Legs, Weapons, or Milk and Serial is there aaaaany mention of the transmisogyny in them. Not only that, but the thumbnails for them have the transmisogy front and center, minus Weapons, but they did that for the Podcast! What do I expect from the channel that when discussing Chihiro Fujisaki for their Danganronpa Kill Count, just outright went "We don't want to talk about it!" and made her non-binary for the kill graphics at the end?
No, people have not, in fact "talked about" the transmisogyny inherent to horror properties such as Danganronpa, Pyscho, The Silence of the Lambs, Rocky Horror, Weapons, Long Legs, Milk and Serial, Sleepaway Camp, Resident Evil, and so, so many more horror properties. They have not even begun to discuss the transmisogyny in so many of their favorite horror franchises, let alone disavowing them. Why would they or any of their creators stop being transmisogynistic when this behavior is rewarded with Oscar wins, boatloads of cash, and greater opportunities for their careers? It's obviously fine if they get all this cool shit!
Had to screenshot because reblogs got turned off, but even just "talking about it" is incorrect. The popularity of Pyscho and The Silence of the Lambs and their status as classics have pretty much superseded any sort of discussion about their transmisogyny in most horror spaces. I am very confident in this assertion because Dead Meat, the most popular and mainstream way and gateway into horror in the internet space, just fucking ignored the massive transmisogyny inherent to both of those movies when they covered them on the Kill Count. James does discuss the protests done against The Silence of the Lambs, but never specified trans women being affected by the character he literally describes as a "mentally ill crossdresser". He makes a few remarks to "trans people" and primarily focuses on how it affects gay men, but never trans women. And James completely glosses over the same thing in the Psycho kill count.
I said this already, but I am NOT looking forward to when they decide to cover Rocky Horror. I know very well that they will ignore the multiple interviews where it's creator explicitly says trans women will never be real women and that they're sympathetic for J.K. Rowling after being rightfully dogged on for being a transmisogynistic monster. I knooooow.
The Dead Meat team have been repeatedly transmisogynistic and I'm fucking sick of it.
I've seen from other posts talking about this that this applies to modern horror as well, if anything it's even more guilty. There's Long Legs (Directed by the son of the guy who played Norman Bates), Weapons (Whose transmisogynistic caricature, Aunt Gladys, won a fucking Oscar and the success of which landed the director the ability to helm the new fucking Resident Evil movie), Milk and Serial (In order to show how scary the evil YouTube prankster is, he wears a mask with poorly put on make up. I wonder what this reminds me of! He also made fucking Obsession right after and got a shit load of cash and critical success from it AND is getting more movie deals!) Transmisogynistic caricatures are not only more common than ever in the horror scene, but are being actively rewarded in both indie and mainstream success.
"this has been talked about extensively, you're just 21" haha funny sick twitter burn. but also
the post that its in response to is about how insane it is that some of the most transmisogynistic caricatures of all time are from incredibly popular horror movies. i know we as transfeminists have talked about this extensively. but outside of transfem circles... it really hasn't been talked about? like at all?
most tmes (including way too many trans tmes) will look you dead in the eyes and say "wait, i had no idea that the guy who sings that he's a transvestite from transylvania in a movie made by a guy who hates trans women was actually about his horrible shitty views on trans women!"
or even worse, they'll pretend you're insane for even thinking that their stupid movie could possibly be transphobic. after all, how can it be transphobic if the city's pflag has an event where they play it every Halloween?
it being "talked about extensivel [between us]" doesn't mean "everyone is aware of this"
maybe we should talk about it more, instead of shutting down baby's first transfeminist critique of transmisogynistic pop culture. just a Thot™
Also this shit is very much not talked about either. Dead Meat, the most popular horror YouTube channel, so famous that they are friends and frequent collaborators with multiple famous directors, musicians and other creators in the horror genre and it's close cousins, famous enough to get cameo roles in big horror franchises like Scream or acting roles in other films in recent years, refused to discuss the transmisogyny inherent to both The Silence of the Lambs and Psycho during their respective Kill Counts. And that's saying nothing on how they just completely bypassed Chihiro Fujisaki when covering Danganronpa by just having her be non-binary for the kill graphic.
Most people don't even see Buffalo Bill or Norman Bates as transmisogynistic caricatures because of the films just saying "no they aren't". Most people do not fucking talk about this, most people are not going to reconcile something they don't see as needing reconciliation.
The fact that under this and the original post people thought it was talking about Rocky Horror or Sleepaway Camp because of them being transmisogynistic, despite neither fitting the "critically acclaimed and having the film itself deny them being trans" criteria of the original tweet, shows how people are not talking about this.
"this has been talked about extensively, you're just 21" haha funny sick twitter burn. but also
the post that its in response to is about how insane it is that some of the most transmisogynistic caricatures of all time are from incredibly popular horror movies. i know we as transfeminists have talked about this extensively. but outside of transfem circles... it really hasn't been talked about? like at all?
most tmes (including way too many trans tmes) will look you dead in the eyes and say "wait, i had no idea that the guy who sings that he's a transvestite from transylvania in a movie made by a guy who hates trans women was actually about his horrible shitty views on trans women!"
or even worse, they'll pretend you're insane for even thinking that their stupid movie could possibly be transphobic. after all, how can it be transphobic if the city's pflag has an event where they play it every Halloween?
it being "talked about extensivel [between us]" doesn't mean "everyone is aware of this"
maybe we should talk about it more, instead of shutting down baby's first transfeminist critique of transmisogynistic pop culture. just a Thot™
Also this shit is very much not talked about either. Dead Meat, the most popular horror YouTube channel, so famous that they are friends and frequent collaborators with multiple famous directors, musicians and other creators in the horror genre and it's close cousins, famous enough to get cameo roles in big horror franchises like Scream or acting roles in other films in recent years, refused to discuss the transmisogyny inherent to both The Silence of the Lambs and Psycho during their respective Kill Counts. And that's saying nothing on how they just completely bypassed Chihiro Fujisaki when covering Danganronpa by just having her be non-binary for the kill graphic.
Most people don't even see Buffalo Bill or Norman Bates as transmisogynistic caricatures because of the films just saying "no they aren't". Most people do not fucking talk about this, most people are not going to reconcile something they don't see as needing reconciliation.

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its poetic, in a way
It's because you (the screenshot, not you OP) are lying about this being for "trans unity". You are using it as a cudgel to justify harassing and shutting down trans women talking about their oppression. It's not "doomer" to talk about how all of the times "trans unity" is evoked from transmisogynists, it's used as a shield for this exact thing.
"I'm for trans unity! How can you complain about me being transphobic??"
While naming yourself after a trans women that people on here slander as a murdering rapist. While tagging your posts with tags that are specifically made to facilitate that harassment. You fucking know why OP doesn't trust you when you say all of the harassment you gleefully partake in is for "trans unity", stop being obtuse.
Had to screenshot because reblogs got turned off, but even just "talking about it" is incorrect. The popularity of Pyscho and The Silence of the Lambs and their status as classics have pretty much superseded any sort of discussion about their transmisogyny in most horror spaces. I am very confident in this assertion because Dead Meat, the most popular and mainstream way and gateway into horror in the internet space, just fucking ignored the massive transmisogyny inherent to both of those movies when they covered them on the Kill Count. James does discuss the protests done against The Silence of the Lambs, but never specified trans women being affected by the character he literally describes as a "mentally ill crossdresser". He makes a few remarks to "trans people" and primarily focuses on how it affects gay men, but never trans women. And James completely glosses over the same thing in the Psycho kill count.
I said this already, but I am NOT looking forward to when they decide to cover Rocky Horror. I know very well that they will ignore the multiple interviews where it's creator explicitly says trans women will never be real women and that they're sympathetic for J.K. Rowling after being rightfully dogged on for being a transmisogynistic monster. I knooooow.
The Dead Meat team have been repeatedly transmisogynistic and I'm fucking sick of it.