The day I come on here an I see a title and cover for those books, Iâm gonna be so shocked. They do not seem like real books to me right now because of how long BB has just been sitting on this info.

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The day I come on here an I see a title and cover for those books, Iâm gonna be so shocked. They do not seem like real books to me right now because of how long BB has just been sitting on this info.

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I wish I had the willpower to participate in the appreciation weeks and actually enjoy this fandom, but genuinely, the lack of information and transparency about the upcoming books is putting me off. I love these characters and the world but at some point, just thinking about them makes me angry with how BB and SJM are handling all of this.
Iâve been reading these books since middle school when they first came out, TOG was my first fandom, and HOF was the first pre-order I was awaiting for by SJM. I started off with SJMâs books when you still recommended the author by word-of-mouth rather than her being a mainstay in the genre and an expected money draw, and I remember when the publishing company actually put in effort to interact with the fandom and would release entire chapters released promo and even include things like bookmarks and stickers with the preorder. Iâm a grown adult now, with a full-time job and family and responsibilities, and I donât have nearly as much patience, definitely not for something thatâs supposed to be a hobby Iâve spent all the years with, seen these books and this author grow and turn out to have such a greedy, gross, and aggravating marketing experienceâ and not just with new releases but also with the constant money grabs of low-effort ââspecial editionsââ and endless new covers and dust jacket variants and having to pay for multiple editions of just to see the bonus chapters.
Iâm not trying to say this as âmy feelings are more valid than those who have been here for less time,â which is not true at all. Iâm just looking at how much these books have stuck with me through the years, and I know Iâm not the only one that feels like this and when we look at where we are. A lot of people joined the fandom / started reading the books around ACOSF, and itâs not fair to them either to be in the fandom this long either, invest so much but get nothing in return. Iâm just angry, for myself and for everyone else. As annoying as the ship war is, it doesnât affect by enjoyment nearly as much as BBâs lack of communication has.
I miss the the original ACOTAR covers so much, I remember getting so excited to see Feyre on them and her dress, and crown and parts of her face on the back of the new releases. I wouldâve loved to see Nesta on the ACOSF cover, but alasâŚ
Sharing this here for my fellow Azriel fanfic writer girlies! This is so interesting and I hope we get more insight in the next books about how and why the shadows react and move the way they do in correspondence to Azriel's emotions.
I think Elain is a trinket girl.
I think her room in the River House has shelves filled with little things sheâs found. A rock with the perfect shape that she saw on a walk. A little figurine of her favorite bird that she found while shopping. A shell she stumbled across while walking along the Sidra River.
And when she ends up with Lucien, their home is going to be filled with little things they found on their travels together.

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Controversial opinion, but if SJM hadnât explicitly said we would get Elainâs perspective pre-ACOSF, we would not be guessing her as one of the main perspectives. Right now the characters who have the most connections to the plot are Nesta, Lucien, and Mor. Azriel maybe could guess him as a POV because of how big the Illyrian plotline still feels and how connected he is with that + the fact that he got a little bit of a POV already + the crossover implications.
I think itâs important to point out that the original endgame was Mor x Azriel. For the period between ACOMAF and ACOWAR, you could find memes and posts from the fandom suspecting them being mates, even some posts on SJMâs Pinterest. ACOWAR came, in the midst of SJM receiving heavy criticism for her lack of representation including lack of LGBT+ representation, and so the ship that wasnât fully confirmed sunk. The framing for Mor and Azriel shifted from two people nervous to admit feeling into a man pursuing a queer woman who felt too unsafe to reveal her sexuality and let him down. Moriel was no more, their dynamics and parts of their characterization reframed, and both of them were without mates / love interests.
With that being said, you look at Gwyn and Emerie, and you look at ACOMAF Mor and Azriel, and to me Gwynriel and Emorie are variations on what Moriel was originally planned to be, but with consideration of the changes made to Mor and Azrielâs respective characters since the Moriel-sinking of ACOWAR. Gwyn is incredibly similar to ACOMAF Mor, right down to the backstory, tension, and reactions she illicits in Azriel; Emerie, a scarred Illyrian with a complicated relationship her people pining after Mor, paralleling what Azriel felt towards Mor in ACOMAF. Emerie and Gwyn were designed for Mor and Azriel, in the particular ways in which Mor and Azriel had complemented each other prior to the ACOWAR re-write.
I can explain away the ACOWAR E/riel moments as nothing more than SJM toying with where to put Azriel in light of knowing she was going in the direction of sinking Moriel, but Elucien had too much attached to them in terms of tension and tropes and plot, or E/riel just didnât work with what she pictured for Azriel originally to continue down that line. But the creation of Gwyn and Emerie, for me, was not only friends for Nesta, but in part because she knew that something wasnât right about E/riel, and Mor and Azriel needed love interests with backstory, build up, and dynamic to what Moriel was planned to be before, love stories that covered what she wanted Moriel to cover in terms of themes and tropes.
At this rate, I actually hope people start cancelling their preorders. The book will come out anyway, so why bother giving BB money when they donât give the fans anything? And changing covers again, are you serious?
To me, the idea that Elrie| would happen in any capacity in the upcoming books is just weird. After the bonus chapter, thereâs literally nothing left to address. They donât have substance to them, nothing more than passing moments, and both Elain and Azriel have too many personal issues to waste page time on a half-assed ship. The bonus chapter was the most insight SJM has given about them in 4+ books (since it was the first time we were in one of their heads) and the optics are shitâ Azriel does not know anything about Elain, and did not care to find out more.
The whole point of the chapter was that heâs wallowing in his loneliness after pining over a woman who does not and cannot love him for the last 500 years, and his brother got mated one after the other to two sisters no less. Itâs desperation for any affection no matter how shallow. That he acted the way he did and said the things he did to Rhys, that Azriel as a character who had shown to have cared so much for how he treats women would want a blood duel that would hurt Elain, while also having no plans or care for what kind of relationship theyâd get into it despite the fact she would be affected the most by being with someone who wasnât her mate (mostly due to the fact that mates canonically go *insane* if anything happens to their mate). The bonus chapter was clear as dayâ there is nothing and there cannot be anything between them, Azriel didnât think it through, is not thinking about it, and Elain returning the necklace is just not interested in anything further with all the other issues she has going on.
There was ample opportunity for SJM to have Elrie| interact *on page* more meaningfully, the way Nessian had throughout ACOWAR, get to know each other in a deeper level, but that didnât happen. Maybe she toyed with idea for a hot second in ACOWAR, but ultimately decided âyeah, no, this isnât going anywhereâ and wrote the bonus chapter to say as much cause the fans it does have are too insistent to read the lines properly.
They didnât interact in ACOSF, Iâm not counting âcharged glanceâ because thatâs just a nod towards the fact that the bonus chapter exists. Given everything else going on the books, the plots tied to the characters, I donât see a reason why they would even need to talk let alone hook up at some point, itâs literally just a waste of page time. Elrie| sunk the way it started, so far in the background it might as well not even count as on page.
Yeah like I wouldnât mind them as a ship if they had more substance. But Elucien has so much substance thatâs itâs boiling over the page. They have tension. They have angst. They have a dynamic that you could see becoming more. With el/riel thereâs justâŚwell nothing that doesnât have a quick resolution and no where near three books of content. Especially if weâre comparing them to Nessian who was a more popular ship and only got one book. If their story was only a book when they had so much more page time and story focus.then El/riel wouldnât even be a quarter of that at least in my opinion as harsh as it may sound.
The way I see it
Elucien = regency angsty enemies to lovers
Gwynriel = nerdy competitive friends to lovers
Elrie| = somehow more of a CEO y/n het-slop in any already super heteronormative series
To me, the idea that Elrie| would happen in any capacity in the upcoming books is just weird. After the bonus chapter, thereâs literally nothing left to address. They donât have substance to them, nothing more than passing moments, and both Elain and Azriel have too many personal issues to waste page time on a half-assed ship. The bonus chapter was the most insight SJM has given about them in 4+ books (since it was the first time we were in one of their heads) and the optics are shitâ Azriel does not know anything about Elain, and did not care to find out more.
The whole point of the chapter was that heâs wallowing in his loneliness after pining over a woman who does not and cannot love him for the last 500 years, and his brother got mated one after the other to two sisters no less. Itâs desperation for any affection no matter how shallow. That he acted the way he did and said the things he did to Rhys, that Azriel as a character who had shown to have cared so much for how he treats women would want a blood duel that would hurt Elain, while also having no plans or care for what kind of relationship theyâd get into it despite the fact she would be affected the most by being with someone who wasnât her mate (mostly due to the fact that mates canonically go *insane* if anything happens to their mate). The bonus chapter was clear as dayâ there is nothing and there cannot be anything between them, Azriel didnât think it through, is not thinking about it, and Elain returning the necklace is just not interested in anything further with all the other issues she has going on.
There was ample opportunity for SJM to have Elrie| interact *on page* more meaningfully, the way Nessian had throughout ACOWAR, get to know each other in a deeper level, but that didnât happen. Maybe she toyed with idea for a hot second in ACOWAR, but ultimately decided âyeah, no, this isnât going anywhereâ and wrote the bonus chapter to say as much cause the fans it does have are too insistent to read the lines properly.
They didnât interact in ACOSF, Iâm not counting âcharged glanceâ because thatâs just a nod towards the fact that the bonus chapter exists. Given everything else going on the books, the plots tied to the characters, I donât see a reason why they would even need to talk let alone hook up at some point, itâs literally just a waste of page time. Elrie| sunk the way it started, so far in the background it might as well not even count as on page.

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Nesta's Role Goes Beyond the Valkyries
Nesta fans don't give a damn about Gwyn getting credit for being the one to bring about the formation of the Valkyries through her research and her being the first to cut the ribbon because we know that being a Valkyrie is only a part of her arc, and that between being Lady Death and the wielder of the Trove, and the current holder of Gwydion and the one with a connection to the eight pointed star, Nesta has plenty going on for her that we can give credit to Gwyn and her efforts and her achievements. It's the same reason no Nesta fan feels cheated that Gwyn and Emerie won the Blood Rite and she didn't. Gwyn got the Valkyrie ball moving, and Emerie was a victim of violence brought about by the misogyny of the Illyrians, so conquering the Blood Rite was way more significant and impactful for their arcs, than Nesta's.
I suspect Elriel fans think recognising Gwyn's role in forming the Valkyries is the highest insult to Nesta because for years they've been insisting that being a Valkyrie, leading Valkyrie troops on Rhys and Feyre's behalf, is the furthest she is going to go, which is why she can now take a background role, and therefore acknowledging the importance of Gwyn's role in forming the Valkyries is taking away the only thing they allow to be Nesta's.
They've spent so long trying to reduce her role, and claim that plot points that are significant for her are actually about Elain, convincing themselves that being a Valkyrie is all Nesta will ever achieve, that now fans are talking about the importance of Gwyn, they think it's an insult to Nesta.
In being the loudest voices for reducing Nesta's significance, they've convinced themselves that her role is as small as they wish it was, and they've circled around to suddenly believing themselves the ultimate Nesta defenders.
acotar 6 heavily focusing on Elain and Gwynâs separate journeys paralleling each other as they come to terms with the fact living a sheltered life is not really living at all and that not facing what discomforts them is letting their trauma win
I have to laugh at the fact that theyâre saying us getting excited about the Valkyries Pilates is erasing Emerie and Nesta, as if all three of them arenât Valkyries and we havenât literally been saying their stories arenât over. Sorry but Iâm gate keeping, theyâve never done anything but make fun of the group and say they donât want to see anymore of them in the future books, never talked about them outside of trying to villainize Gwyn and make people out to be selfish for liking Gwyn. Shut the fuck up, you donât like any of those girls and never have, so keep their names out of your mouth.
Prediction based off the Pilates marketing: That cut ribbon on those shirts is going to be somewhere on one of those covers. Why bother with the shirt design if youâre not reusing it from something else, like, you know, a cover.
I do feel like this little quote at the same time as the Valkyrie-themed promo is a bit pointed. How many âgleerielâ jokes, jokes about the friendship bracelets, calling Gwyn a child because she is joyful and excited about things, jokes about the smut-reading club the Valkyries have, and how none of them deserved to win the Blood Rite, and how the whole plotline was cringe, how many condescending things have we seen about the Valkyries have been said in this fandom?
And then going on to other things women have fun with in the series, Elainâs gardening, Feyreâs paintingâŚ
I feel like this might have also been a slight nudge to the fandom: stop making fun of these women like just because you want a ship to happen or donât like the ship theyâre in.

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âItâs about the Archeronâs and batboys!â
No, actually, ACOTAR through ACOFAS is about Feyre and only Feyre. Others characters, including but not limited to the batboys and her sisters, still had importance, but it was always about Feyre and her perspective and her interactions with the world. The point of ACOSF and every book after is to explore characters that are not Feyre, in whatever way SJM decides. That has included Nesta and Cassian, that will include Elain eventually, Azriel eventually, but thereâs also obvious plotlines involving Mor, Gwyn, Emerie, Lucien, etc. The ensemble of the cast is not limited to six characters that have sibling and sibling-in-law labels attached to each other.
The insistence that the books are about the Archerons and Batboys is only a fandom concept that is unsupported by existing plotlines and anything SJM has said. The books are about Feyre, and the spin-offs are about everyone that isnât Feyre.
Hereâs the thing, they didnât *have* to do a Valkyries Pilates class. If the promo was meant I be for Elain, they could have done a bouquet-making class with âThe world needs more gardensâ stickers. If they wanted to a general-series promo, they could have done a painting class or a jewelry-making class in honor of Feyre. If the Valkyries promo was supposed to be in remembrance of ACOSF and all the supposedly âfinished arcsâ of the *three* characters (and I mean three because some of you arenât understanding that the plotline belongs equally to Nesta, Gwyn, and Emerie), then they could have done this whole Pilates class promotion five years ago around the time the book came out. But the *publisher* did the promo now because itâs relevant, the plotline is not done, and we are going to see those three amazing women again among the main cast in the upcoming books, spearheading a plotline that is not complete, getting more growth on top of all the growth that has already happened.
Elain will get her book in due time, but for now this seems to be the direction SJM is heading in based off BBâs first promotional material that directly acknowledges the contents of the books.