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NO!!! What you’re failing to realize is, you can’t look at all this through the lens of the truth. You have to look at it through the lens of public narrative. Look, the truth doesn’t lend itself to plot holes. When one can easily find plot holes, in any story, you know it’s a lie/false narrative.

A false narrative is a semblance of truth, mixed with a lot of made up bullshit. The truth falls away, and is replaced with lies. Where did the truth go? In the gigantic potholes that riddle the arc of the path of the false narrative. The truth is there, in every false narrative. One just has to take the bumpy path, and fall into each pothole to discover it.

Lauren CAN NOT label Camila. Only Camila can label Camila. Lauren can tell us her perspective and opinion, but she does not get to dictate what’s in someone’s heart, that’s not her own.

Now, what’s the public narratives? That Lauren was queer, had a thing for her BFF, but wasn’t ready to admit it, until she finally was. That BFF was not Camila, because Camren was never real...ever, because in Lauren’s perspective, Camila was straight. She was obviously straight, because she was only ever publicly with guys. Just the way THEY want it.

A truth: Lauren was always PUBLICLY with guys, until she was ready to come out of the public closet, then she showed up PUBLICLY with a girl.

Camila, as of this moment, has NEVER labeled her sexuality PUBLICLY. So, as far as Lauren knows, narrative wise, especially since Camila was always with guys PUBLICLY, Camila was straight. Lauren wouldn’t allow herself to have feelings for a straight girl, because it would make her feel like a “predator”.

Again, following the public narrative, Camren couldn’t have been real, because Camila has fallen into the default label of straight, because she hasn’t been with a girl PUBLICLY, and hasn’t PUBLICLY labeled herself....But if you delve into the potholes along the path of the narrative, and pay attention to signs we are given by Camila herself, she is guiding us to the truth.

Camila can’t come out, and tell us her truth right now, because she has signed contracts, and has to uphold the integrity of the false narratives. But, if one pays attention, she is trying to tell us the truth, without coming out a saying it. I dare say, she has even told us the path she is going to take, in eventually telling us her truth PUBLICLY.

There is a reason Camila has PUBLICLY promoted the hell out of Glennon Doyle’s book, UNTAMED. I think she is going to follow the arc of the author. That she was going to be straight, because that’s what was expected of her. But one day, she’s going to see the right woman (Lauren), from across a room, and BAM, it’ll all start making sense. The reason she couldn’t have a solid relationship with men, is because she realized they wasn’t, and couldn’t make her truly happy....Because she’s gay as fuck!!!

In the plot holes, she will discover, that the reason she couldn’t have a long relationship with a “boy”, is because she didn’t really want one. The reason she could so easily “leave” Ew, for Cashew, is because she wasn’t really IN LOVE with him. There will have to be a PUBLIC reason, as to why she can’t be with Cashew, in the end. Why might she “break his heart”... Becasue she realized, even though she did have feeling for him, she just couldn’t “LOVE” him the way he “LOVED” her, because he wasn’t truly what her heart desired.

That would make what Lauren said, “true” at the time. It would protect the integrity of ALL the false narratives. And, more importantly, it would make people feel for her and her life struggle in FINALLY FINDING HERSELF!!!

I think Camila will eventually come out, because she really wants to. Once her career is more established.

Of course her coming out will automatically confirm Carmen in a way, but if they do it in a smart way, then not necessarily.

Why would Lauren say "she wasn't queer". Maybe because they're planning for Camila's coming out long term, and they can use that as a proof, that she discovered her sexuality later on, and she wasn't with girls when in the group.

I often get asked for “proofs” of Camila’s sexuality and why I don’t believe that she could be straight, and I often answer with gifs of her looking at women, mostly Lauren, because those looks are indeed very obvious, but I’ve realized  over the years  that Camila’s facial expressions and her body language are also very revealing of how she feels. 

In this particular interview it’s painfully obvious that she’s uncomfortable with an heteronormative question. 

Her face says it all. Watch the way her facial expression tenses when he says “man”, and then the obvious “I’m so tired of this bullshit” face she’s pulling, which then slowly turns sad and then pissed.

When the interviewer implies that the guy could be him (🙄🙄🙄 ) she jumps at the occasion, hoping that that answer would be enough, but then he asks her again, observe her body language, she’s defensive, she really doesn’t want to answer.

Then she mentions Andrew Garfield but is very quick to add Emma Stone to the mix, putting the emphasis on the fact that she likes the “couple” and not the guy. She then talks about the movie, subtly changing the subject - she ended up not answering the question directly.

I know right now she looks the happiest she’s ever been and that a lot of amazing things are happening for her, but my personal opinion is that she’s also having a really hard time having to hide who she is and having to play along with the straight game. 

I know she won’t come out now or anytime soon, because her new campaigns, especially the GUESS one, are straight oriented, and Alessandro even if it’s not official, is serving as her new love interest - I’m just really hoping that with her album coming out the focus will be back on her music and that she won’t have to answer that type of question too often. 

Resume :  Always said they was friends until señorita had came out it turned so quick into a relationship to promote until it reached a billion in 2020 and ended afterwards

Camila uncomfortable

Her reflex is to bend the legs when she saw Shawn’s coming. Funny reflex for someone who is in love

The romance starts when the clip comes out

June 21st, 2019 : Senorita is released with a “hot” music video

June 26th, 2019 : Medias confirm Mattmila breakup (Obvioulsy, it’s because of Shawn)

From June 20th to July 3rd : Many videos and behind-the-scenes photos of Senorita have been released ( never seen so many backstage pictures for a MV. A record was probably broken ) on different social media account. In addition, interviews with Camila and Shawn. Shawmila is everywhere, the storm isn’t coming anymore, it is right on us.

To convince the public, Shawn’s mother comments on posts :

Or actually, someone who imitates Shawn’s mother (Well, the real one or the fake one for a SS, it doesn’t make a difference, the proove is here)

Bodyguard pretend to be a fan and send this on social media to create rumour (SS : “ Oh, Shawn buy a neckless for C”)

https://twitter.com/lizthin89/status/1177758076578885632

Ask the wrong people if Shawn/Camila’s relationship is real

Some people are ready for the question …

- Charli XCX

https://twitter.com/camilasjonas/status/1199397187735736325

- Niall Horan

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1182829267895361536

- Lele Pons (Around 12 mins 50)

https://youtu.be/9GeLOi7ZN-o

And some others, not at all …

- Austin Mahone

https://youtu.be/UI3eBifb7vw

- Ally Brooke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oj5MIg53ts

Billie Eilish wasn’t ready for that degree of fakeness either : (Around 25 seconds)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzVmldsisJA

A problem with the timeline

https://karlaswine.tumblr.com/post/620504152238391296/debunked-shawmila-and-elle-interview

We run away from the paparazzi … Well, not always

With Zac, Shawn avoid paparazzi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9TWewJsc68

With Connor, we avoid paparazzi

https://twitter.com/SMendesUpdates2/status/1141353688981626882

With Camila, it’s another story

https://twitter.com/update_shawmila/status/1159636040765849600

https://twitter.com/chaomendespage/status/1194102515333304323

https://twitter.com/mendexcamilizer/status/1298323647850045440

A facetime on speaker (Very Private)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMqwyaV4ISA

Two behind the scene for Senorita (Cut in two parts to make more buzz and money)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN_zDyfxIsY&t=288s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=587aVQd-8No

Dvora Englefield

August 2018 :  “ The veteran PR strategist brings her roster, including clients John Legend, Camila Cabello and Shawn Mendes.”

https://variety.com/2018/music/news/shawn-mendes-camila-cabello-john-legend-publicist-company-lede-dvora-englefield-1202891768/

Oh, John and his wife promote Shawn and Camila. What a coincidence !

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1240023647630307338

Dvora works for Lede Compagny. This compagny has been created by these women who talking about their business in this recent interview from 2019 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qt5sP70kZ0

some passages are very interesting like :

- “ they’re pairing people for panels “

- “I mean we have 8 kids between the four of us, 2 months to eight years old and I think that at the end of the day, we also have, we’re building a legacy for them too, … we’re teaching them about equality and women in the office “ 

-  question : “Tell us about the background on how PR is different because that’s changed, I mean everything changed but PR changed a lot in the past couple of years “

answer : “PR is changing obvioulsy, there’s social media … PR is all about storytelling, content and relationship and I think  that is something that actually isn’t really changing and so the media might be changing, the platform might be changing but in the end of the day, if we don’t have those relationships, if we don’t have a good story to tell, there’s no list and no robot that’s gonna fix that for us”

Repetition never open except for Senorita

https://twitter.com/Avni54006909/status/1170266891836747776

ella rares on Twitter

Account that wakes up to unveil unpublished photos then becomes private again.  The only photos that were unpublished were the photos of the shooting of Senorita and another. Common point between these photos, Connor Brashier (Shawn’s Photographer)

Camila tell the truth to her neighbor

“we are doing this for online”

https://ve.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_q8fkjsOYhV1xwinz3.mp4

The location of the target then Action !

 - Shawn looks at the young couple arrived then kisses Camila

https://camren-vs-pr.tumblr.com/post/190326463822/this-video-shows-that-shawn-is-watching-the-young

- Shawn and Camila see the young waitress washing the table next to them

https://twitter.com/CCPolskaMedia/status/1210813894354034689

- Shawn and Camila sees that the young woman (who is probably getting out of the bathroom) is back

https://twitter.com/shwnoticias/status/1211133171477204992

What were their reactions to their nominations to the Grammys?

Camila remains vague in response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL9x3n9iye4

Shawn doesn’t know Camila’s reaction so he changes his conversation

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1200525715030052866

October 16th : a sacred date

It’s no secret to anyone, October 16th is known to be Camren’s birthday since 2012 thanks to Lauren’s tweet : 

Labels/managers therefore, ensure that each year certain dates (Lauren’s birthday, Camila’s birthday, October 16th, …) are filled with PR. In 2018 and 2019, we were not disappointed.

In 2018, Matthew arrives in Brazil to join Camila while for a few days, rumors of Breakup circulated

In 2019, Shawn’s team removes the video from the kiss, to repost it the next day

Roger, why are you here ?

August 23rd, 2019 - Camila was at the Shawn’s concert in Brooklyn. She was with Roger’s daughter :

If Roger’s daughter is here, it’s because Roger must be here but if that day, Camila just came to see her “boyfriend” (Not perform) why her manager is there.

Camila is really happy to be there on the photo. We can understand her when she’s been to the same Shawn concert 10 times (Once, it’s ok, twice it’s ok, three times, no)

Physical appearance at the beginning of PR and at the end of PR

For Pinocchio, “my nose grows now” is a statement that merely serves to imply that whatever he said right before was a lie and that therefore his nose will probably be growing now because of that lie.

For Shawn and Camila, it’s almost the same but it’s not the nose but hair

Camila: Where did the paparazzi go? Hope I didn’t do that for nothing

https://camren-vs-pr.tumblr.com/post/190515241206/it-was-perfect-leonardo-dicaprio-and-meryl-streep

He wanted to tell Camila that he was in love with her (with Andrew at the same table because it’s more romantic) in January 2018 when he was “dating” Hailey at the time

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1208551005006245888

juste for show on radio

Not even sit next to each other in the car

https://twitter.com/ShawnMendessArg/status/1159948932757282818

Where did Camila’s jacket go? 

https://twitter.com/mjei02/status/1154631775345238016

Roger uses Camila’s Twitter

Another ;

Roger uses Camila’s instagram

Connor jalousy (Connor doesn’t like when S and C kiss)

https://twitter.com/TrackingSM/status/1159684996296134656

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1221900173531648001

In the picture above, we see that Connor is not in the water like the rest of the team. He probably didn’t want to see the couple kissing in front of the paparazzi 

 Trouble in paradise

An anonymous person posted this comment. He talks about a possible dispute between Shawn and Camila during Shawn’s birthday in 2019.  

Of course, that person may have lied but may have told the truth. Many videos and photos were taken during this anniversary including this video :

  https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1163809233965441024

If we look closely at the footage, Shawn and Camila are having a heated conversation at that moment.

So real testimony or not, you choose.

Also, In the numerous photos of the couple during confinement, we can see in one that Camila was upset with Shawn

Yeah, the PR isn’t easy for anyone

Who wrote Senorita? it’s him, no it’s her but no it’s them …

https://twitter.com/DailyMendesLife/status/1184584500078108679

https://twitter.com/SMendesQandA/status/1143260344271429636

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1199402879058169857

July 28th -  Q: What inspired you to write Señorita? 

 Shawn: I love you guys have a great time! (Leaves)

https://twitter.com/TrackingSM/status/1155242683633266688

They send a HBD’s video to JustinBieber’s sister that they barely know

Camila and Shawn barely know Justin so it would have been weird if they wished him a happy birthday but there , they wish her HBD to Justin’s little sister that they probably never met. What the f**ck ?

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1262842457047404544

Is it a NYE kiss ?

It’s no secret Camila was with Shawn for NYE. From that night, there was a professional photographer who took Shawmila kissing. Photos that we still haven’t seen but that will eventually be unveiled (Like the kiss of Camila and Matthew backstage of the Grammy which came out 1 year after)

  https://camren-vs-pr.tumblr.com/post/190199499492/when-do-you-think-theyre-gonna-publish-the-photo

September 15th, 2020 - Shawn Mendes has partnered with #TIFF20 to launch an annual Shawn Mendes Foundation Changemaker Award … From that, he made a video

By chance (not on purpose at all), behind him, we can easily see a photo (Like the day, we see IKWYDLS’s award just located behind S and C)

On the photo, we can see two person kissing : 

Isn’t that the New Year’s Eve photo?

Suspicious message

April 27th - Camila’s story where we can quickly see her phone.

https://twitter.com/CCabello_Fr/status/1254845081728815109

Some people zoomed in on the cell phone : 

the Contact is “Rogerrino “ (= Roger Gold). We’ve already seen this nickname by the past

and we can see “ Team Roamntic Stuffs “ (he probably sends her the instructions of the next stunt OR Shawn and Camila have a minimum of freedom and Roger send them several ideas of stunts and they can choose)

Shawn recounts a memory that is not confirmed by someone who was there

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1183357993179631616

Ok, great story from Shawn but then a witness of this moment didn’t see Camila this day at school. The boy only seen Shawn, Aaliyah and probably Connor (camera crew). 

The child has no interest in lying about that so we can believe him

Several actions that we film on the same day but that we publish on different dates to make more buzz and money

May 19th

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1262842457047404544

4 days later 

Same thing in August 2019 for Shawn’s birthday in NY

An incomparable subtlety (They took the smallest flower so we wouldn’t notice it. Smart move)

Beginning of December (But they wait  February 14th to release it)

https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1228447366329643008

February 14th - The D-Day

February 19th, 

A spotlight in the crowd (A very private couple, who doesn’t like to be noticed)

July 28th, Camila arrives with her family to Shawn’s concert in Miami (Everyone in black clothes except Camila. Strange)

And then, you understand why

Shawn OK - Camila in white, right in front of him

https://twitter.com/lupe_2m/status/1155668047513948161

Audience OK - Shawn wave to Camila to show to everyone that he saw her

https://twitter.com/TrackingSM/status/1155920248844906496

Media OK -  PopCrave on Twitter (500,000 followers) talks about it

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1155930977052422144

Script OK - “Why” is a song writing by Shawn for Camila

 https://twitter.com/ShawmilaHQ/status/1155927259846332416

Note : Truth or not, a person tweet that :

 Camila use sacarsm (Mecanism that we use when we lie)

Camila’s anxiety 

https://camren-vs-pr.tumblr.com/post/617499337210085376/body-language-camila-cabellos-interviews-for

Shawn shouldn’t let his friend touch the ass of his GF

https://twitter.com/shawnpol_media/status/1221730420758323200

The strategy that almost succeeded but failed (well tried)

February 23th is Brian’s birthday (= Shawn’s Bestfriend). From his birthday in 2020, we were able to find easily, 3 videos and a photo : 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8724FRBS-3/

On the second video, we are surprised to see that Camila is present.

But how is it possible because she’s in UK so technically, it’s impossible?

  https://camren-vs-pr.tumblr.com/post/190985282761/interviewer-camila-i-gather-youve-just-flown

So you ask yourself, would she have had time to catch a plane to go to LA between an interview and the shooting of Cinderella, just for a party  knowing that 2 days earlier she was in LA.

So you look at the videos and then you understand that we tried to manipulate you by inserting a video that wasn’t taken the same day as the others.

We see that in the first photo (Taken February 23, 2020), Brian has under his sweat, a white t-shirt. On the other hand, in the second photo, he has a black t-shirt. Some also talk about a longer beard.

 The clues the Cabellos gave us

June 22th : Alejandro Cabello - “ Couple of besties”

July 5th : Camila Cabello’s like on Instagram

Also Shawn try to tell the truth at the beginning

Guys, I can completely understand the way some of you have been personally offended, and down right hurt, by Lauren’s words. But, at the same time, one needs to understand, what was actually happening, and the timing of everything. Not only the time line of her story, but the timing of the podcast.

She was talking about her feelings, toward Camren shippers, back in 2013 and 2014. Lucy very well MAY have been the friend that helped Lauren realize she was into girls, but she WAS NOT the girl that helped her accept herself. If you pay attention, it became obvious, Lauren had grown more accepting of her sexuality, BEFORE Lucy came back into the picture.

Back in 2013/2014, Lauren was still fighting her true feelings. She was doing exactly what I said she would say…Just making out with her friend, because that what friends do. No big deal. Every “straight” girl does it, right? She was “justifying” her actions, because she couldn’t control her desires.

We all know, Lauren had a really bad bout, of internalized homophobia. She couldn’t control her desires, and she HATED herself for it. It was easier to BLAME Camren shippers, than herself. “We” are the ones who put those desires in her head, because she thought she was pretty damn good at hiding her truth. “We” were seeing something that wasn’t there, and putting thoughts in her head she didn’t want. It BECAME “our” fault, because she couldn’t BLAME herself.

The truth is, Lauren didn’t hate herself for liking girls. She hated herself, for not accepting that part of herself. She hated herself, for giving societal norms that much power over her. She hated herself, because she couldn’t control her desires, much less hide them. We had nothing to do with it, but like I said, it was easier to blame us, than to put blame where it belonged….homophobia, heteronormativity, and herself.

We are a part of her coming out story, but she can’t tell us the WHOLE truth. She had to give Lucy all the credit, (without even saying her name) because saying that we saw her truth and accepted her truth, before she was willing to accept it herself, would have given validation to Camren…Because it was Camren that made us see her truth, NOT Laucy!!!

She blamed us, for making her feel like a “predator”, for connecting her to someone that was “NOT queer” (lol). Honestly, that is the biggest load of bullshit, I’ve ever heard. Shippers don’t make predators, we make art. Be it written, or visual, we made some wonderful art….That Lauren obviously consumed herself, or she wouldn’t know so damn much about it.

IF, and it’s a big IF, Lauren EVER actually felt like a damn “predator”, it was her inability to take her eyes off of Camila, and particularly her ass, that would have made her feel that way, not us. (Camila enjoyed it, and stared right back. She loved Lauren’s ass, as well.)

Instead of BLAMING us, she should have been thanking us. WE are the ones who accepted her, and loved her, even though she couldn’t accept and love herself. But, like I said, she couldn’t do that, because it would have VALIDATED CAMREN.

What she should have done, is not mention Camila, at all. The fact she CHOSE to say Camila’s name, and NOT Lucy’s, says a lot about what that whole thing was meant to accomplish.

She gave Lucy all the wonderful credit, then said how damn TOXIC that “relationship” was. She even “explained” why her mother didn’t approve of Lucy. It was a load of shit, but needed to be “explained”. No mother in their right mind, that accepts lovingly her daughters sexuality, would disapprove of her “relationship” with a woman, then turn around and approve of her “relationship” with a gang-banger that smokes weed like a forest fire, and snorts coke like a vacuum.

The whole damn point of mentioning Camila, by name, and not the name of the woman who had supposedly made Lauren accept herself, was to get the media’s attention…and cross-promotion.

She didn’t mention Lucy’s name, because she didn’t want to give Lucy any media attention. Lucy became Lauren’s version of “that girl”. (which should tell us something) She mentioned Camila by name, so the media would jump all over it. And it did. It served it’s purpose. It cross-promoted BOTH of them. In turn, it also put a spotlight on Camila, and her current PR stunt. If Lauren says Camila “isn’t queer”, that must mean she’s “straight” (LOL). That must mean shmila is real, right? (LMFAO)

This whole thing is a big load of bullshit, but it had it’s purpose. That being said, I can understand why so many of you are upset, and hurt. It didn’t affect me that way, because I see it for what it is, PR. With this type of PR, it takes the focus off of any relationship between Lauren and Camila, and puts the blame on “us” for “destroying” their beautiful friendship. This same tactic has been used multiple times before. The best example of this is Louis and Harry. THEY blamed the shippers for destroying their wonderful friendship, as well. Like I said before, it’s a tried and true Industry tactic. They’ll keep using it, as long as it keeps working… just as they do PR “relationships”.

I was talking to my friend @romanticentropy (As I write this she still hasn’t heard the audio about it) But in this Worth It Not Worth It video the question was clear: Would you marry your celebrity crush even if your parents didn’t approve of it? They all raised the Not Worth It paddle… except Camila. When Tyler Layne asked Camila who her celebrity crush was she replied:

“I can’t say, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT.”

And I think about it right now I realize that Camila gave us the real tea. I thought there were two but there are three answers Camila gave us. The first: Her celebrity crush was always Lauren The second: She keeps her celebrity crush hidden because it is important to her not like the PR circuses that she can expose without problems. Your true and real love will always be important to her. The Third: She was not against marriage but the opposite. She wanted it all, ring, proposal, engagement, marriage, cake, reception, honeymoon. Everything. In other words, she wants to spend the rest of her life with her real love, her celebrity crush that she keeps private, of whom she cannot say her name, but which is important to her. AND THAT IS NOT SHON MENTOS.

As I was just telling you, adding to everything you pointed, Camila let us know four things that day:

Her celebrity crush is important, meaning, she’s not just talking about any celebrity crush, but the one that she has feelings for

She is very much in love with this celebrity crush because she is willing to marry them without her family’s approval, and she defended her choice very toughfully during the interview

The opposite is also valid: the one she is very much in love with, counts as a celebrity crush. Who could it be???? LOL

For some unknown reason, she cannot say who this celebrity crush is. Why? Well, because she couldn’t think of a lie in the moment and because she was talking about someone she had feelings for, she couldn’t just say her love’s name just like that!

Most of these dates were determined by outfits worn at meet and greets or the cities they were in.

February 12, 2014 2 Dinah Gets Lost Backstage (Ventura, CA) February 12, 2014 4 5 Tips for Soundcheck (Ventura, CA) February 13, 2014 5H Popstar Photoshoot (Anaheim, CA) February 17, 2014 22 Ally’s Makeup Routine (Grand Prairie, Texas) February 17, 2014 16 Meet Ally’s Family (Grand Prairie, Texas)* February 17, 2014 1 Bus Tour (Grand Prairie, Texas) February 19, 2014 8 Normani’s Homecoming (Houston, Texas) February 18 or 20, 2014 23 Normani’s Room Tour (Houston, Texas) February 21, 2014 14 Day in the Life with Dinah (Atlanta, Georgia) February 21, 2014 9 Vocal Warmup Exercises (Atlanta, Georgia) February 21, 2014 What’s in My Bunk (Atlanta, GA/Mobile, AL) February 22, 2014 20 5H gets Emotional Visiting Fans (Atlanta, GA) February 23, 2014 11 Magic Tricks with Collins Key (Charlotte, NC) February 23, 2014 7 Lauren’s Preshow Routine (Charlotte, NC) February 25, 2014 10 Meet Camila’s Family (Sunrise/Miami, Florida) February 25, 2014 (?)  21 Camwich- Camila’s sandwiches (Florida?) March 16, 2014 5H and Collins Key Magic (Omaha, NE) March 27, 2014 5 Spring Outfit Ideas (Cleveland, OH) March 27, 2014 3 Tour Secrets Question & Answer (Cleveland, OH) March 28, 2014 25 Lauren Grammar Queen Fan Gifts (Nashville, TN) March 29, 2014 18 Harmonizer Tag (Nashville, TN) March 30, 2014 26 Demi Lovato Silly String Surprise (Indianapolis, IN) April 25, 2014 RDMA Rehearsal (LA, California) June 7, 2014 12 5H Goes to Prom (CT) June 7, 2014 13 5H at Digitfest and Summer Essentials (NYC) June 12, 2014 15 Funny Line Readings (Chicago, IL) June 19, 2014 17 Behind the Scenes of the Boss Music Video (LA, CA) July 18, 2014 VMA Performance Announcement (OC Fair, California) July 18, 2014 19 5H tries Fair Food (OC Fair, California) August 20, 2014 29 Camila’s Banana Socks & Tristan from Vamps (East Rutherford, New Jersey) August 21, 2014 31 5H Talks Reflection Album (Philadelphia, PA) August 21, 2014 33 Camila Goes to the Hospital (Philadelphia, PA) August 22, 2014 24 Water Fight (VMA Studio Rehearsal, LA, CA) August 23, 2014 VMA Preshow and Dance Party (LA, California) August 31, 2014 51 Paranormal Normani (Simpsonville, SC) September 1, 2014 50 Shawn Mendes Surprises Ally at Waffle House (Birmingham, AL) September 2, 2014 30 Fifth Harmony’s First Vlog (Birmingham, AL) September 5, 2014 48 Puppy Party with Fifth Harmony (St. Louis, MO) September 5, 2014 32 5H En Español (St. Louis, MO)  September 5, 2014 41 Lauren & Dinah Drawing Competition (St. Louis, MO) September 6, 2014 42 Ally Gets Scared on a Hike (Whites Creek, TN)  September 7, 2014 54 Shawn Mendes is Life of the Party (Atlanta, GA) September 7, 2014 27 5H & Austin Mahone Nursery Rhyme Medley (Atlanta, GA) September 10, 2014 28 5H Shawn Mendes & Austin Mahone Ketchup Fight (Sterling Heights, MI) October 10, 2014 34 5H Goes to Brazil Day 1 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil) October 11, 2014 35 5H Gets Mobbed-Brazil Day 2 (Brasilia, Brazil) October 12, 2014 36 5H Last Day-Brazil Day 3 (São Paulo, Brazil) Ocotber 19, 2014 (?) 37 Camila’s Makeup Routine (Phoenix, AZ) November 3, 2014 40 5H Pizza Feast (NYC) November 4, 2014 38 5H Reacts at Buzzfeed (NYC) November 4, 2014 39 5H Dance Party with the Fans (NYC) November 16, 2014 43 5H Talk Christmas Memories Pt 1 (LA, CA) November 16, 2014 44 5H Talk Christmas Memories Pt 2 (LA, CA) December 16, 2014 45 5H Talk New Year’s Kisses (LA, CA) December 16, 2014 53 5H WILD Dance Rehearsal (LA, CA) January 7, 2015 49 Camila the Reporter has a Big Announcement (LA, CA) January 7, 2015 52 Dinah’s Makeup Routine (LA, CA) January 7, 2015 55 Normani’s Makeup Routine (LA,CA) January 28, 2015 57 5H Sing-A-Long To Reflection (NYC) February 26, 2015 60 Reflection Tour Rehearsals - BTS (LA, CA) February 27, 2015 61 Fun First Day of Reflection Tour (San Francisco, CA) February 28, 2015 68 5H Plays 2 Truths and a Lie (San Diego, CA) March 1, 2015 62 Camila’s 18th Birthday Party (LA, CA) March 4, 2015 65 5H’s Vlog in Dallas (Dallas, Texas) March 5, 2015 72 Ally & Normani Hang With Their Family in Texas (Houston, TX) March 7, 2015 73 Meet Camila and Lauren’s Family and Friends in Miami (Ft. Lauderdale, Florida) March 8, 2015 63 5H has a blast on the Roller Coaster Ride (Tampa, FL) March 8, 2015 70 Camila’s Hair Tutorial (Tampa,FL) March 9, 2015 74 Normani’s Hair Tutorial and History (Atlanta, GA) March 14, 2015 69 Unplugged Jam Sessions (Chicago, IL) March 15, 2015 67 Lauren’s Hair History and Tutorial (Indianapolis, Indiana) March 15, 2015 66 5H Plays Would You Rather (Indianapolis, Indiana) March 16, 2015 79 5H Halloween Special Ft The Short Witch (Royal Oak, MI) March 17, 2015 71 5H Plays Truth or Dare (Toronto, Canada) March 18, 2015 77 5H Heads Up Challenge (Youngstown, OH) March 20, 2015 81 5H’s Failed “Never Have I Ever” (Red Bank, NJ)  March 24, 2015 75 How To Hair Flip with 5H & Jacob Whitesides (Boston, MA) March 25, 2015 76 5 Things You Don’t Know About Me with Lauren Jauregui (Seventeen Magazine Office, NYC?) March 25, 2015 78 5 Things You Don’t Know About Me With Ally Brooke Hernandez (Seventeen Magazine Office, NYC?) March 25, 2015 82 5 Things You Don’t Know About me with Dinah Jane (Seventeen Magazine Office, NYC?)    March 26, 2015 80 5 Things You Don’t Know About Me with Normani (Bethlehem, PA) March 26, 2015 83 Dance off with 5H and Yolanda (Bethlehem, PA) March 27, 2015 64 5H Cakes Jacob Whitesides in the Face (Glenside, PA)

Unknown or N/A:

47 Lauren’s Makeup Routine (between July 8 & August 23 2014) 46 Best Moments of 2014 (2014) 56 Top 10 Funniest Moments (Clip show) 58 Dinah’s Hair Tutorial (Jan or Feb 2015) 59 5H Fan Favorite Moments (Clip Show) 84 Top 10 Best Moments of 2015 (Clip Show)

*received paintings of themselves seen in later videos like Ep 1 the Bus Tour

3 facts about Music Industry 

Fact 1 :

“ People assumed you are gay, I don’t think they do anymore because you are married, not that means anything because a lot of people get married just to pretend “

Fact 2 :

“ So much amazing musics out there,  I just don’t think there is balance sometimes when it comes to pop music “

Fact 3 :

“People thought Camila and I were like, into each other. And that made me so uncomfortable. Like, disgustingly uncomfortable. Because I was queer, but she was not. [...] Because of the type of clips people would put together” - Lauren Jauregui

First and foremost, after what Lauren said, I think we should be cautious with our words. That’s why I will try not to affirms anything. I will question it. Yes. But most importantly, I’ll show that some actions were...suspicious

With that being said, even if this single video here can close this case, here are a bunch of non made up videos

Follow my main Camren account for more: @stanlaurmila

1. “Are Camila and Lauren- nevermind”

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2. “Camila being suspicious”

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3. “Lauren being suspicious”

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Good Lord, Anon, that's a lot to unpack. I will start by saying, I agree with some, and disagree with some of what you had to say. Now, where to start...

You say it still messes with you, that everyone still portrays Camila as the victim. Are you going to deny that Camila WAS/IS victimized? The truth is, they were ALL victimized. They are ALL victims of an abusive Industry.

You said, "she sure as hell accepted this full of privileges position she was given since the beginning." You are either forgetting, or just plain don't care, that Fifth Harmony was a highly controlled entity. There was no choosing, or "accepting" privileges. They each did what they were told to do, said what they were told to say, and acted the way they were told to act. They were each given a role to play, and they were contractually obligated to play that role.

Yes, they were contractually obligated to act a certain way. There has been ample proof given, that none of the girls had any control over their PUBLIC image. Camila still has no control over her PUBLIC image, because there has been ample proof, she is still operating under her original contract.

Did Camila choose to sign that original contract? Yes, she did. Did she read that original contract? According to Lauren, probably not. None of them did. Did Camila agree to sign her solo contract? Yes, she did. But as I've explained before, if she wanted to continue in the music industry, she had no choice but to sign the solo contract they offered her. That solo contract is still connected to her original contract.

Camila is a human being. We ALL have positive and negative traits. Camila, all the ladies of 5H, you and me, we all have our positives and negatives. None of us are perfect.

You said, "one of her biggest negatives, is that she grew to love the spotlight." Why is that a negative? Hell, they ALL wanted the spotlight. Every person who gets into the Entertainment Industry, wants to get themselves in the spotlight. They all want to succeed in the field of their choice. To succeed, they have to garner the attention, and live in the "spotlight", in one way, or another.

Every one of them auditioned on a NATIONALLY TELEVISED talent show. They wouldn't have done that, if they didn't want to be noticed, and hopefully thrust into the spotlight of success. They ALL wanted that spotlight of success to be as solo artists. It's didn't quite work out that way. But, they ALL chose to try and achieve that spotlight as a group.

If one has been paying attention, from the beginning, Camila made no bones about her desired dream. She has stated from the beginning, she wanted to be a "pop star". Of course she wanted the spotlight. Lauren has said, from the beginning, she wanted to be "famous and travel the world". She wanted to be a famous star, in the spotlight.

Since you have chosen to compare Camila and Lauren, I'll answer to them. You seem to think there is this big chasm between the two. There really isn't. The only difference is the outcome, thus far. Lauren STILL wants the spotlight and fame, she just wants it on her terms. The problem is, it's damn near impossible to get that success on ones own terms, in an Industry that insists on dictating the terms.

That's a more recent decision on Lauren's part, by the way. You seem to be conveniently forgetting, that until 2019, Lauren also "chose" to play the game on THEIR terms. It was most likely, a two year PR contract, with a drug addicted gang-banger that turned her off of THE GAME. Lauren was pissed, that after all that, her debut album got shelved in 2019. I DON'T BLAME HER!!! I'm sure that also contributed to her decision, that THEIR TERMS suck ass.

Does Camila "crave" the big concerts, accolades, and people loving her? Yes, she does. They ALL do, or they wouldn't have signed solo contracts after putting 5H on hiatus. Instead, they would have said "this Industry sucks" and walked away. They didn't. They ALL craved more.

Lauren wants the same thing Camila has, just on her terms. Lauren doesn't "hate fame". She hates the negative side of fame. She hates having her life dictated by terms and schedules. She hates being told what to say, and how to act. She hates that fans get all up in her business.

She loves the nicer side of fame. She wants to see a lot of people come and see her perform. She loves to be on stage and see her fans singing and dancing to her music. She appreciates the accolades. She loves the love she gets from her fans. She would love even more, if her fans would multiply, and buy and stream the hell out of her music, instead of always bitching, telling her who she is, and how she should be, and getting all up in her damn business.

All one has to do, is listen to Lauren and the anger inside her about all this mess. She wants more. She wants more than a fucking "room full of people" enjoying her art. She wants a stadium full of people enjoying her art. WHO THE FUCK WOULDN'T. She just wants that stadium full of people to enjoy her art, and not expect more than that from her. I'm sure Camila would appreciate the same damn thing.

Unfortunately, that's simply not how the music industry is set up, these days. The difference is, Camila has accepted the fact, that she IS the product. Lauren has not. Lauren don't want to be a product. She wants her music/art to be the product.

I've said it a million times, the music industry hardly sells music, anymore. The music Industry sells the artist. The music has become a bi-product of the Artist. The Industry knows which artists will sell, and which ones won't. They know what image will sell, and which ones won't. Be the artist THEY want you to be, THEY'LL make you a star, and maybe even famous. If not, good luck.

Finally, you are completely right. There isn't a contract out there, that says someone can't come out of the closet. That would be blatant discrimination, and wouldn't pass the muster of the legal system. But, when you sign away control of your own image in a contract, that gives the contract holder the rights to dictate what your PUBLIC image will be. If they want you to have a straight PUBLIC image, then you'll have a straight PUBLIC image. If THEY want you to have a "good girl next door" image, then that's the PUBLIC image you'll have. You signed away your rights to be your authentic self, when you signed away the rights to control how others see you, period!!!

IN MY OPINION, Camila has come out of the closet so damn many times, I can't even count any more. She just has to do so, in a way that isn't obvious to those who have control over how others see her. Take her last video, for instance. When one listens to terms she chooses to use, and does a bit of research, you'll discover, what I believe is the hidden meaning behind that video. If I'm correct in MY THINKING, she has yet again, screamed her truth from the rooftops, for those who choose to listen, and understand.

As for the PR contracts...I was the first person to say, Camila made the choice to sign into those particular contracts. When one signs away control over their own public image, it also allows those in control to dictate that one MUST enter into PR contracts to help THEM present the PUBLIC image THEY want for that particular artist. The artist gets a say in which person that PR is with, simply because they HAVE to agree to sign the contract with that particular person.

So, did Camila agree to sign into this PR contract with the human hair ball? She absolutely did....And NO ONE should be surprised by it. It is quite clear that this shit has been in the making, since June/July of 2015. Hell, after that shit show with the British Bore, even the majority of the fandom was asking for it. The timing was right, and here we are.

Lastly, Camila is always stepping out of the closet, like I said above. IN MY OPINION, she wants her fans to know who she truly is, but that doesn't mean she wants to tell the world in definitive terms. Like Lauren, she wishes people could simply appreciate the music, and leave per private life out of it, but she also knows that's a pipe dream, and not reality.

She knows, the second she decides to speak her truth aloud, her career takes, yet another, blow. I also think, that's one of the reasons THEY, through the media, make sure her ignorant youth is continuously brought up. The more she has to fight to get through that hardship, the more she will want to keep her truth a secret. (yes, a definite manipulation tactic)

Camila could decide to say, fuck it all, and come out with her truth at any time, after her contract is up. She could also decide never to PUBLICLY come out. It's her choice, unless people in power decide to take that choice away from her.

Whitney Houston took her truth with her to the grave. Taylor lives with her truth, one foot in the closet, and one foot out. That's basically what Camila is doing now. IN MY OPINION. Her public foot is in the closet, and her music/art foot is out. If people cared more about the music/art, they would get the authentic truth. If you care more about her public image, you'll get exactly what THEY want her to be.

People try to tell you, and others this all the damn time. Take the recent interviews. If you notice, Camila, and others are always saying how vulnerable, honest, and authentic she is, IN HER ART. Her truth is in her craft, whether acting or music. Her PUBLIC image, is just that, an image to sell to the PUBLIC. Everyone in the Entertainment Industry has one...Even Lauren. Yes, she did play the game. She still has her toe in the game, she just isn't playing it at a high level, right now...and, unfortunately for her, it shows!!!

Hello, I'm doing well, thanks. The thing is, we might never know for sure, because Camila and Lauren had a different version of the contract on X factor than the rest of the girls. I assume, it wasn't because anyone suspected a relationship at that stage, but because they felt they could market them and sell them the most.

So because of that we don't know if only the two of them were in PRs because they wanted to make them more famous compared to A,N,D, or because the two of them had something to hide. Possibly both.

The fact that they are queer definitely disrupted the management's plans for them, but hey, nothing was lost yet. They changed the strategy, decided to use "camren" for cloud in the fandom, while simultaneously trying to keep them deep in the closet to the gp.

Camila was their 'it' girl. 1) Make her known outside of the group: a solo project. 2) Make people talk about her love live to feel more emotionally connected to her: a project with the potential love interest. This way they obtained a new wave of fans, who don't know she's gay and DON'T WANT HER TO BE. They will fight for her hetero rights. Perfect

Shawn and Camila seemed like a great plan, teenagers, friends to lovers trope, young love, cute old recordings and videos you can refer to later. A romantic, sweetheart kind of story. And they tried it out back in 2015 to see if this could potentially work. And it did. Even I have to admit they kind of had a good chemistry back then. So Shawmila was a masterplan for the following years, and Shawn and Camila were supposed to be the power couple of the decade. The management forgot we don't live in the early 2000s anymore.

But I think Tyren and Mattmila wouldn't necessarily happen if the girls were straight. Tyren was a consequence of Lauren's coming out, to convince people that she's rebellious and that's the only reason she's bi (because for some reason the entertainment industry treats women's bisexuality as a crazy phase AND caters it to men, why are we not surprised). So her being with an older rapper right after was to establish this opinion and this image of her.

The label is in charge of funding for an artists album; production, mastering, lyrics, marketing, music videos, and everything else that involves their artists music. An artist management team is in charge of managing the artists image and their publicity. The label and the management team have to work together for unity.

Camren is a known within the music industry, and both their labels are SMG owned. Lauren’s new label knows about them. E*** is still Camila’s label. Maverick continues to manage Lauren’s image and they now manage Dollie’s image.