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Hey babies and dear Anons đđźđ¤đ¤Ł. Sorry, I felt like Santa Faby for a moment đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł. But anyway đ¤Ł. Welcome to a new âQ&Aâ post. Before starting, Iâd like to wish Happy Holidays to all of you đ. I hope you have nice holidays in the company of the people you love and that you have fun and relax đĽ°. Have an amazing New Year start as well â¤. I wish you all a lot of happiness, peace of mind, and good health đ. I also thank all of you in advance for your asks, and especially most of you because I was really surprisingly struck by your kindness and overwhelmed by your love đ. Thank you with all my heart for the respect and the sweetness of many of you. Those are the types of asks that I answer with even more pleasure than I already normally do. So thank you. I love you guys đ¤.
I answered all the asks except the one on the analysis of a song (I donât wanna spoil by saying which one is đ) that youâre gonna have in the next Q&A post, my dear Anon. Forgive me but I didnât have the time to do that and insert it with these ones. Iâm sorry again đđź.
Hello, dear Anon đđźđ. Iâm sorry if it always takes me time to answer your guysâ asks đ
. Itâs because I answer all of them together in one post. Iâm sorry đĽş.
Hello again, dear Anon đđźđ. Iâm so glad youâre one of the few who prefer to protect them and not reveal things that could compromise them. It may sound strange to you, but Iâm so proud of you đ¤. Iâm so proud and happy when I find fellows CS who put their privacy and security first instead of putting them at risk just for clicks and likes đ.
Donât thank me, my dear. Itâs always a pleasure for me to answer and help as I can đ. Thank you for your kind words and Iâm happy you liked it đ. A virtual hug and have a wonderful day đĽ°.
đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł I love your enthusiasm and thank you very much, my dear Anon đĽ°. Weâre really happy about that too and weâre looking forward to it đ. About your question, no, dear, Iâm sorry. Not one where our faces can be seen anyway. Maybe another type of picture, yeah, but not one with that exposure. We care about our privacy a lot đ.
Hey to you, dear Anon đđźđ.
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Iâm sorry, my dear, believe me đ, I really am đ, but I donât know what you mean. You didnât write it. So, could you please explain to me what you think that line means so that I can understand it too and agree or not with you? Iâm really sorry. Please donât hate me đđź. I really tried to try to understand what you meant but even though Iâd like to, Iâm not a mind reader đ
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Besides, when I talked about the line âMy kisses are history, they go back a long timeâ, I was explaining how it wasnât about Sandalwood as they wanted us to believe, since Shameless was completed a week before the rehearsal of the SeĂąoritaâs music video in June and that therefore nothing had happened between them until July 4, 2019, according to their own fake narrative. Iâve never been generic by saying something like âan ex relationship withâ. In fact, I think I was pretty explicit in saying that Shameless is about Lauren, my dear đ.
Hey to you, dear Anon đđźđ. Iâm sorry, dear, but itâs not over yet đ
. As for the ff to recommend to you, I donât know because I havenât read one since last year. The first one that comes to my mind right now is Checkmate. In fact, if anyone knows some good ones (although I think Iâve read them all already đ¤Ł), please, write them in the comments because Iâd love to read some new ones during the holidays đ (not the ones set in high school tho please đđđź). Even on Hosie (Hope and Josie from Legacies) Iâd be more than okay with that; also because it would be the first fanfic Iâd read about them 𤊠(and because Iâm in love with Hope aka Danielle đ¤¤đ *sorry, baby, but you already know this; I love you đ*).
As for T&T, if Iâm not mistaken, I remember reading that camrensrealbish has it (if youâre not the one who has it, hon, Iâm so sorry I tagged you for no reason đ
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Yes, dear Anon, especially during the mid-October 2015 breakup; the worst one they had in my opinion which also went arm-in-arm with the news (not yet public at the time) of Milaâs exit from the group and therefore the real beginning of the end of 5H.
âthey did not speak to each otherâ, yes, many times, and we even witnessed that. âthey blocked each other from their private social mediaâ (and not), I honestly donât think so because the indirects were their way of communication for a lot of years.
Hi to you, dear Anon đđźđ, and of course I can explain it to you đ. Itâs much simpler than it actually looks. Kaki is the really cute nickname derived from Camilaâs first name: Karla. You know how babies who start talking come up with new terms because they mix the names of things and of the people when theyâre learning? Well, they never told the story behind it, but I guess Sofi coined Kaki when she was a baby đ, and the nickname has then remained.
Thank you a lot, my dear, for the nice words đĽ°. Youâre sweet đ. Take care of yourself too đ¤.
Hi to you, dear Anon đđźđ. Contrary to normal things or things about my life đ
, I remember everything about them đ¤đ¤Ł. And yes, my dear, of course I can help you đ.
The post/reblog youâre referring to is this one posted on January 21, 2015:
Now that you can see it in full, I think itâs easier for you to understand that Laur was simply looking for reassurance. Their usual âtake me back or let me let you goâ phase during which they found themselves in in those years. Basically, their usual back and forth/game/loop/cycle.
Hi to you too, zucker-stuff đđźđ! This is the first time youâve contacted me (unless youâve done so anonymously in the past) so welcome into my inbox đĽł.
Regarding your ask, my dear, the answer is found in the pics themselves. What does the mirror in the second picture reflects beside the breathtaking queen? A door. And what does the mirror in the first one reflects? A wall. You can also understand how the door in the first pic is positioned perpendicularly in the point where the picture was taken. So, your implied question (đ¤đ¤Łđ) is no, dear, itâs not the same bathroom. Um, Iâm sorry if you thought it was the same one? đ
Thank you, my dear, by the way đ. That was really nice of you and made me very happy đ. Come back whenever you want and have an amazing day đ¤.
Well, in addition to the NDA, thereâs also the CDA (Confidential Disclosure Agreement), dear Anon. Theyâre basically the same thing. But by focusing more on the NDAs, theyâre used as much as paper tissues. Mine was obviously a metaphor, but Iâm not kidding. As I think you know, NDAs are also used in companies and in employment contracts of ordinary people, but in the various industries (the music one, the film one, the sports ones, the political world, etc., etc.)? Theyâre used to no end.
Celebrities themselves have to sign them for deals, meetings, negotiations, etc. Celebrities themselves have to sign them if theyâre dealing with other celebrities even for non-formal meetings. Yes, you got it right. Many times, even just to friendly hang out or if for ex. they want to go out together one night.
Workers of any kind who deal with them must sign NDAs. So it doesnât matter if directors, engineers, assistants, coaches, makeup artists, dancers, stylists, or ball pickers. It doesnât matter their role or task. If theyâre dealing with them for even just a day or sometimes even just a few hours, they must sign NDAs. Why? Because NDAs are meant to protect celebrities. Even if itâs only 5 minutes with the celebrity, you never know what might happen in those 5 minutes. The celebrity might, for example, receive a private phone call, or receive a gift from someone, or I donât know, something that canât get out of that room anyway. Celebrities themselves or their teams always have NDAs with them in their âpocketsâ just in case, and no, Iâm not kidding this time either. Understood now why the metaphor of the paper tissues? (đ¤đ¤Łđ)
NDAs can also be very customized. Like for example, the request to sign them? And yeah Iâm talking about ordinary people too, it can happen before having romantic relationships with celebrities and other important/prominent people, or before or after one-night stands, or before or after drug use (together with them or just the celebrity). It depends on what has been included in the document, but it may require people to completely deny the existence of the celebrity involved, or the silence about everything theyâve seen and heard, or the silence only about certain information that are designated as confidential. There are agreements that if breached, can result in a 1 million dollars fine for each breach made, such as for ex.: the person witnessed 10 different things and signed the NDA. Of those 10 things, they disclose 3 by breaching the agreement. So their fine will be 3 million dollars.
As I said before, NDAs are meant to protect the celebrity, and therefore consequently, never the person who signs them. So basically, back to your questions, Mila herself or her team could also have paid them as a plus if they wanted to, but I donât think there was any need for it. As youâve seen, the NDA is more than enough per se, dear Anon.
1) Literally answered this in my last Q&A post (tenth question), so Iâll just copy part of that answer, dear Anon: ââbut the reason she stopped using it, both of them actually, is because everyone knew what their account names were. They signed up when they werenât famous yet, but even after that, it was a âprivateâ place (outside of being famous) for them in which to be themselves and express their feelings through re-blogs. It was no longer private by then and therefore they simply stopped using it.â
2) All 5 girls were required to provide the passwords of all their accounts already in the X-Factor era, so, yeah, their social networks were monitored since then. Although Tumblr less than the others tho because always considered less important [good for us đ ehm, ehm]. And, dear Anon? Not âby the managerâ, but by their ex-team.
Not all celebrities because some of them handle it by themselves, but Iâd say 90% of them have people who handle their social media. This person has a very specific role, and is called social media manager. They can be more than one, and therefore social media managers, or, the celebrity (or whoever makes the decisions for them) hires an actual communication and marketing agency to take care of it. In the case of the girls when they were still in the group, there were: the girls themselves behind them (they had much more freedom when they were minors for a legal matter), plus a specific team chosen by the labels which specifically took care of that, plus sometimes the management (so sometimes it couldâve been a manager, sometimes a publicist, sometimes an assistant, etc.). Everyone has always alternated, and everything has always been monitored. And before anything was published, it always had to be approved by the team first.
Now their situation has changed because theyâre all solo artists, but the method behind their social media hasnât changed for all of them. Speaking of just Camren, in Laurenâs case, she has more control since June 2019. Itâs not always her all the time, but it is her most of the time. In Camilaâs case, however, it hasnât changed even a bit. She still has a special team chosen by the label (in the singular now) that deals specifically with that, plus sometimes the management (so sometimes Roger, sometimes Gian, sometimes Dvora, etc.), and a few times because of her own choice, Mila herself.
I honestly laugh every time people blame Roger because theyâre convinced heâs the only one running it. Itâs ridiculous how much in order to blame someone without knowing shit, they only blame him because they need a villain. They donât know how things work or what really goes on behind the scenes, yet bam: letâs point the finger as many sheep who canât think with their own brains against the one whoâs easiest to blame just because someone once started this hate parade, shall we? đ¤Śđťââď¸. I mean, at least in this case, Roger himself proved that heâs not the only one running it, but whatâs everyone focused on? Just on the very fact that itâs not always Mila herself who does it. Remember this?
Yeah. Iâd like to underline the âour teamâ. Case closed, letâs move on.
3) Yeep đđź. Not always, but yes. Theyâre called indirects for a reason, donât you think, dear?
Hello, dear Anon đđźđ. Yeah, I remember. It was a persistent, childish, and (sorry not sorry for saying this) stupid anon who sent her two asks (maybe even more, but Lo only posted two). The first one, posted on November 20, 2012:
And the second one, posted on November 23, 2012, that is, the one youâre referring to:
1) The answer was 100% real and it was 100% Lauren. BUT, and yes, thereâs a but, we donât know if it was the truth. Iâll explain myself better, and this is also related to your 2) question.
Before doing so, however, a little warning: for those who are prudish or who have other reasons that are religious or personal, please skip this ask directly. Iâm going to be pretty blunt here and I wonât hold back, so Iâd rather please đđź you skip this if you have any problems with it, rather than then get complaints like those two times in the past. Okay? And thanks.
As I said earlier, that ask was posted on November 23, 2012. This means Laur was still literally at X-Factor. And in turn, that means Camren hadnât fucked yet. If thatâs why, they hadnât yet given their first real kiss (for me happened in the following month on New Yearâs at Loâs house), but only the playful one in the elevator.
Having said that, I have three options. One reason on why she would have lied, one that was born as the truth but which then became a lie, and one if it was the truth. Before telling you, however, I need to explain to you something else that I actually already talked about and for which I received complaints as I mentioned earlier.
Sex is seen in a very subjective way in queer relationships. Ask one girl, and her answer will be different when you ask another. For everyone, sex with a man is considered as such if thereâs penetration, otherwise, itâs considered as only foreplay. But sex with another girl? Some girls consider having had sex when it was only oral. Other girls consider having had sex when there was only penetration. Other girls if it only happened through the clit. Others yet, consider it as such if it was all together and therefore a mix of everything. And there are those who say that for them it was only if they had orgasm/s.
So here, as you can see, we have to talk and above all think based on how a girl sees it, and we donât know how Lauren considered it back then.
We know that before Camila, Lauren had already experimented with another girl: Lucy. Laur was 15, and as I explained in another ask in response to an Anon, that experimentation took place from late September 2011 to February 2012 (it could have happened in all those four months, or just in two, or just in one; I canât know that). We also know that Laur was still super in denial, and as she herself said âI had homophobia deeply ingrained into my systemâ.
Having explained all this and by still keeping in mind that we donât know how Lo saw it and how she considered having sex with a girl, I can tell you the three reasons mentioned earlier.
Reason on why she would have lied:
During that experimentation with LucĂa, they had sex and Laur considered it as such, but since it was with a girl, she lied because n° 1, privacy. Sheâd never have told her personal business so publicly especially at the time that sheâd by then become a public figure. And n° 2, the most important reason, because if she had told the truth and therefore if she had said that she was no longer a virgin, anyone else, including her family and her friends, would eventually have asked âwith whom?â. She should have come out of the closet already since then because her friends, especially her best friends, knew it hadnât happened with her ex-boyfriends. And precisely because of that, she certainly couldnât even make up a guy, so she simply lied.
Reason that was born as truth but which then became a lie:
During that experimentation with Ludicrous, they had sex, but Laur didnât consider it as such because it didnât happen with a guy. It didnât happen in the âstraightâ way, you know? Still because she was in denial, she admitted it to herself only after years, and therefore when she answered that ask, in her mind, it was the truth. But only years later when she accepted herself, that truth turned into the real truth, which is that her answer to that ask had been a lie all along.
Reason if it was the truth:
During that experimentation with Luggage, Laur didnât consider what they did as sex and therefore, automatically, it was the truth.
Now the connection with your 2) question. If that was the truth, and I believe it was, Laur considered sex what she had with Mila. As Iâve said so many other times, I truly believe Lauren experimented with Luckless. Maybe they only experimented with foreplay with orgasms without penetration and thatâs why Laur didnât consider it sex, while with Mila she did everything and therefore considered it as such thanks also to penetration. I donât know this đ¤ˇđťââď¸. I can only hypothesize. I could of course also be wrong but yeah, my dear. I personally believe that Mila was Laurâs first sexual time (and vice versa).
And thatâs it. I hope you have a nice day too, my dear đ.
Hey to you, dear Anon đđźđ. Iâm better đđź, thanks for asking. How you doinâ? I hope well đ.
My dear, genuine question here: Did we watch the same interview? đ¤Ł
The two people she was referring to represent her two most important PRs: Ty and Lucy. If thatâs why, thatâs the reason why the choreography for Donât Wanna Say was created in that way. To live up to her narrative of their love triangle. Plus, to also represent her bisexuality in general. And as for the meant, she used the past tense because n°1, still for the narrative, Sorryâs about one of those two PRs, and n°2, because she canât use the present tense. Lauren is publicly single, so if she had used the present tense, both Zach and Dan, as well as eventually everyone else, wouldâve bombarded her with questions about who is this person with whom she is in a relationship that means a lot to her.
So the genuine question remains, my dear, because itâs like we watched two different interviews. And youâre entitled to your opinion of course, but I also have another question if you donât mind: it really took only two sentences said for narrative purposes to make you come to the conclusion that Camren are no longer together?
Hi to you, dear Anon đđźđ. As you saw in the previous ask, thatâs my take on this and the reason why I think it. Donât thank me, my dear, because itâs a pleasure for me, and have a good day too đ.
P.S. âi personally donât think so, like at allâ, I applaud you for not following the herd đđźđđźđđź. Youâll understand why Iâm telling you this in the third to last ask; answer 4) where youâll see another applause.
And I donât know why they do it, dear Anon đ¤ˇđťââď¸đ¤Śđťââď¸. Itâs like everyone suddenly forgets every time that Camren follow a script. I mean, itâs also a matter of logic and paying attention to what they say and the real meanings behind it, you know? And I think you know what I mean based on what you wrote. About your question, dear, I think the previous ask made you understand what I think. And for the rest, I really loved that interview. Especially all the joking digs đ¤Ł. Laurâs really hilarious and I feel sorry when people donât understand her sense of humor because sheâs really funny đĽ°.
Hello to you, dear Anon đđźđ. I read it as soon as I got the email, so when you sent it. I celebrate all the holidays even though Iâm an atheist actually. Christianity is predominant in Italy, so also my family, most of my relatives, and some friends. If thatâs why, I grew up like that too, so I even have communion and confirmation. Being an atheist, I donât celebrate the religious part of the holidays. In the case of Christmas for ex., I only celebrate the fact that itâs a holiday and that Iâm surrounded by the people I love. We donât care if we believe in different things. The important thing is to be together to have fun, to eat really really a lot (even the table đ¤Ł; thatâs a way of saying of course), to play games, exchange gifts, and I mean, to spend a wonderful time together. I donât know if the reason youâre not celebrating is religious or for other reasons, my dear, but if youâre going to have vacation days, then I hope youâll enjoy those đĽ°.
Now about your questions.
1) Yes, they spent holidays together. Most of the times, they saw each other immediately afterward, such as for ex., dinner/lunch with the family, and then they saw each other at one or the otherâs house, or went out directly. They also spent holidays all together at one or the otherâs house, and yes, like you, I think they spent this Thanksgiving all together for the same reasons as you. & 2) yeah, she only posted one pic.
3) They donât have a house together (yet). They have never had it so far because they donât need it since Lo lives alone. & 4) Their dogs stay with their families. But going more in the specific:
Camila took Eugene Fitzherbert in August 2019 before the VMAs that took place on the 26th in NYC. This is the only reason why we saw Eugene with her in those videos, but then once he was brought home to Miami, he always stayed there. Tarzan was taken on November 3, 2020, in Miami during the pandemic for PR reasons. Unlike the others, and precisely because he was a PR dog until recently, heâs the only one who was constantly being moved for narrative reasons. All four (Leo, Thunder, Eugene, and Tarzan) (+ Aleâs parrot đ¤ŁđĽ°) move from Miami to L.A. based on Alejandro. Sinu is always around with Mila (Sofi as well when she doesnât have school), and when they have to stay in L.A. for a while, Ale joins them when he can according to his job by also bringing their little zoo with him.
Unlike Camila, Lauren had three dogs always with her. Leo, who she took to the Front Street Animal on May 14, 2017, when 5H went to Sacramento, and who then she had to give away because of the commitments and travels with the group and because she hadnât considered how big he couldâve become. She couldnât take good care of him, so she preferred to give him to family friends with two children in July of that same year. Gracie (Graciella), taken on September 20, 2018, for PR reasons, and who unfortunately and heartbreakingly passed away đĽşđ a couple of days before Laur announced it on March 14, 2019. And Cleo (Cleopatra) who she still has, taken on January 20, 2019, for PR reasons as well. Same reason why Julio was also taken if thatâs why (the one who Ty kept just one more month after their âbreakupâ and then disappeared).
Laur lives alone contrary to Mila, and whenever she couldnât take them with her, she always left them at her parentsâ house with Dash, whom they took when Lo was 8 years old. So back to your question, the dogs stay with their families. At best, Laurâs the one who takes Cleo to the Cabellos when she doesnât want to leave her at home, but I doubt that Mila takes her dogs when she goes to stay at Loâs apartment. Oh and, yeah, I think the dogs all get along well because theyâve been used to being with other dogs since they were puppies.
By the way, you made me laugh really a lot with âinsert that hilarious pr stunt vid with all the dogsâ đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł. And yeah, her dogs may seem a little crazy as you say, but thatâs because they donât recognize Mila as their owner. In this case, Iâm speaking as a dog owner myself. Dogs choose their owner. Their alpha. They have their favorite. They create a sort of list in their minds from the one that is their owner, to the one theyâre least fond of but that they love anyway. Kind of like we humans do if you think about it đ¤Ł. For example, in a family of three, they see only one as their pack leader, and it doesnât matter if the other two members of the family spend the same amount of time with them or even more, they will always listen to the one they choose as their owner. They listen to some commands if theyâre given by other people, yes, but itâs not the same thing, and they donât listen to others at all if theyâre, I donât know, super excited or angry. And believe me, if there had been Ale during that hilarious video, none of that would have happened. If what happened during that video happened, itâs because none of them recognize Camila as their owner. Far less Shitto. 𤣠Let alone. For dogs, itâs a matter of leadership, respect, and loyalty. If you see dogs taking the lead when theyâre out walking on a leash, it means they think of themselves as the leader because they donât think that person is at the same level of power as their owner, and that also means that they donât respect that person enough as they would do with their owner. Itâs as simple as that đ¤ˇđťââď¸đ.
Donât thank me, dear, because itâs a pleasure for me đ¤. In fact, thank you đ thank you for the nice words, youâre really kind â¤, and Iâm glad you liked it đĽ°.
Hello to you, dear Anon đđźđ. Iâm better, dear, thanks for your concern đ¤. I hope youâre well and Merry Christmas to you too, my dear đ. [Iâm not physically spending it with my girlfriend because we live 11,369 km away đĽşđđ¤§, but weâre spending it together thanks to the video calls and the gifts weâve sent to each other đđĽ°. Maybe next year đ¤đź]
I still think Tarzan was adopted for PR purposes. It wouldnât have been a problem for Mila to have another dog since she loves dogs. And she certainly doesnât lack the space or the money to take care of him too, and thatâs why she still has him and she chose his name, otherwise, Tarzan wouldâve been given to someone else at the end of their charade. Or maybe youâre right in saying that she wanted another dog and that they also used him for PR purposes. I donât know đ¤ˇđťââď¸. I think this only because n°1, it seems strange to me that she already wanted another dog since she had taken Eugene just a year before and already had two others, and n°2, because they needed something that made them look even cozier. Like a small family, and a new dog (because they couldnât use one of those she already had of course) was the best choice. Luckily, theyâre not the kind of people who wouldâve agreed to have a PR baby (not yet at least đ and I hope for them they never do đ¤đź), so theyâve opted for another type of baby to make them look even more real in peopleâs eyes with this co-parenting thing. Failed miserably like all the rest of their PR by the way đ¤Ł.
As for the fact that people think they were two different dogs, I personally donât think so. I compared the pictures (and the videos) several times, and it has always been the same dog. One dog can also look like another one even just if it has shaggy fur that day. Dogs, like people, grow, but much faster, so itâs normal that they may look different, but they have features that make them recognizable. Speaking as a dog owner, I can assure you this. Same thing when it was with Gracie. The friend youâre referring to instead, is yogurt majesty tour manager, Cez Darke:
I donât know if people saw this picture and thought he had the same dog, but this is him with baby Tarzan on November 27, 2020.
Why canât you have one, my dear đĽş? I donât know if you canât have a dog because of space, money support, allergy (a real one tho đ¤Ł), or maybe your parents donât want to, but I hope someday you can make your wish come true because, having a dog is one of the most beautiful things that can ever happen to you in life. You are loved unconditionally, you have a best friend for life, you will never feel alone because theyâre always there for you by helping you even in the darkest moments, and itâs literally life-changing đĽ°! I speak for myself of course, but I could never imagine my life without my baby girl đ. So, yeah, I really wish you that with all my heart, my dear â¤.
Hi to you, dear Anon đđźđ. You want the truth, my dear? But please, donât tell anyone because itâs a secret, so đ¤Ťđ¤Ťđ¤đ¤. That tweet was my birthday present. She asked me what I wanted as a gift for my 30th birthday, and I asked her to tweet something related to Mila, and bam, she did it with this đ:
IâM JOKING OF COURSE!! đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł. Not about the part that she tweeted that on my birthday because I really turned 30 on the 22nd, but about the fact that it was my birthday present đ¤Ł. I mean, I wish, but no đ¤Ł.
All kidding aside now, my thoughts about it are that thatâs a line from one of her songs. She just teased the lyrics and I was like:
Even more so because it was my birthday đ¤Ł! I literally had a smirk plastered on my face and I said to myself âHappy birthday to me đ. Thanks, Lo đâ.
Iâm better, my dear, not good yet, but better đ. Thanks for your concern and for asking, and I really hope youâre well. Youâre sweet đĽ°. Yes, Iâm enjoying the holidays, and I hope you are too đ¤. Merry Merry Merry Christmas to you too, my dear đ, you deserve it too đ.
HI again, my dear Anon đđźđ. Iâll answer everything in the same order you set the ask.
For what you said after the //: And maybe youâre right to say they donât give a fuck, but what can I do? Be petty about it? Nah. Meanness would bring more meanness. Any form of hate only leads to more hate, and I donât want any of that. Especially in my blog. I think you already know that I donât approve of it and that I spread the exact opposite as best I can. And thanks for what you said đ. Youâre super nice đ¤.
1) Oh, come on, dear đ¤Ł. Just for that? Youâre sweet đĽ°. 2) Now weâre serious only because you know more or less our relationship and that weâll see each other? 𤣠Why didnât you think we were serious before knowing all this? 𼺠- YOUâRE THE ONE WHOâS SWEET and thank you đĽ°. 3) and 4) Yeah đ¤đź.
Now the answers to the new questions (and of course itâs okay with me đ):
1) Yes, I do. Iâve been doing it since I was a teenager and Iâve never stopped. I donât know what your genre is to recommend anything specific, so Iâll copy and paste the list of the ones I watch and have watched since then (not including cartoons and the classic ones they did on Disney Channel):
Game of Thrones, American Horror Story, The Vampire Diaries, The Originals, Legacies, Pretty Little Liars, Ravenswood, Pretty Little Liars: The Perfectionists, The 100, Orange is the New Black, Riverdale, Arrow, The Flash, Dcâs Legends of Tomorrow, Batwoman, Supergirl, Superman & Lois, Supernatural, Charmed (2018), Motherland: Fort Salem, The Wilds, Squid Game, Cruel Summer, Step Up: High Water, Orphan Black, Shameless, The Bold Type, Tell Me A Story, V Wars, 13 Reasons Why, Glee [Brittana forever â¤], Gossip Girl, Gossip Girl (2021), Smash, Once Upon a Time, Teen Wolf, Scream, Shadowhunters, Lost Girl, Hart of Dixie, 2 Brooke Girls, Suburgatory, The Secret Circle, Faking It [the one in which 5H appeared as guests star in the 2x06 by singing the cover âYou Got It (The Right Stuff)â by New Kids on the Block], Beauty and the Beast, The Carrie Diaries, Scream Queens, Beyond, Famous In Love, Penny Dreadful, The L Word, Moonlight, Dallas (2012), Instant Star, Covert Affairs, Chuck, Kyle XY, Wildfire, Smallville, Veronica Mars, One Tree Hill, Gilmore Girls, Nip/Tuck, Dawsonâs Creek, and the one that made me fall in love with TV series: The O. C. đ.
Whenever I update the list, I always have the doubt that Iâve forgotten some, so itâs not 100% complete. Oh and, these are the ones I used to watch every now and then but that Iâve never watched in full or in order of episodes: The Big Bang Theory, Sex and the City [Iâve watched the movies and The Carrie Diaries tho đ¤], Scrubs, Dr. House - Medical Division, Charmed (the original one), and Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
2) Thanks, dear, and Iâm happy about it đ. A lot of people find it offensive, yeah, but personally speaking, I donât. It doesnât seem like that, but bisexuality isnât taken seriously by people. I already mentioned some reasons in the last post, but very often weâre discriminated against and represented with negative and completely wrong stereotypes by both straight people and people from the LGBTQIA+ community itself. Many still today refuse to recognize bisexuality as a specific sexual orientation, and thereâs a lot of biphobia around. Reason why bisexual people are prone to higher rates of depression, anxiety, self-harm, and suicide. And bi teens have a higher incidence of suicidal thoughts and suicide attempts than gay and lesbian teens. All this, because they are consequences derived from the biphobia ingrained in other people.
Due to constant discriminations, biphobia or general homophobia, many bisexuals and many LGBTQIA+ people see the term bicurious as offensive. Also because as I told you before, bisexuality is not taken seriously by people, and therefore they (bisexuals and LGBTQIA+ people) see the term bi-curiosity as an injustice towards people who are truly bi. A bicurious person may turn out not to be bisexual but just to be straight or gay/lesbian, so people find it offensive and not fair because the term bicurious is derived from bisexuality: BI.
I also know that many bisexuals and many LGBTQIA+ people find it an offensive term because they see bi-curiosity as basically a temporary sexuality. They see it as just a justification that those people use. Like a temporary pass they use to experiment. As an âokay, theyâre confused and want to try to have the confirmationâ, ergo âthey just want to use one of us, perhaps deluding them at the same time because theyâve played with their feelingsâ.
I understand the reasons why many are against the term. I understand them with my whole being because Iâm bisexual too. But in my opinion, weâve all gone through the confusion and insecurity phase before knowing for sure, and curiosity, in this case bi-curiosity, is exactly that phase. I donât mind exactly for this. Again, I understand why many are against it, but at the same time, I believe that if a person wants to use âIâm bicuriousâ because thatâs what they feel at the moment, they can do it because only that same person can define themselves, and the others are nobody to tell them itâs wrong.
Now. I donât know the reason behind your question, my dear. I donât know if youâre asking me this because you used the term bicurious and someone told you it was offensive, or if you witnessed something like that, or if you read it somewhere. I told you, I donât mind đ¤ˇđťââď¸, but many do and take it seriously as an offense. My first piece of advice is, fuck what other people think and use it if thatâs really what you feel. Donât use it lightly or if youâre just kidding. Only do it if thatâs what you really feel. But my second piece of advice, especially if you want to avoid arguments, is to use queer or just curious instead of bicurious. Donât use a label that doesnât belong to you yet. Donât say phrases like âIâm confused and I think Iâm bisexualâ, or âI think Iâm bicuriousâ. Say something like âIâm questioning my sexualityâ or âI think Iâm queerâ or âIâm confused because I feel attracted to both gendersâ. You canât go wrong and you donât offend anyone in those ways đ.
3) Oh yeah. 100%. Zach (and Dan too) has known them since 2015. Zach has been with them at parties and said it in the interview with Mila. Plus, have you seen all the joking digs, teasing, and laughs made with Zach and Dan during this interview with Lo? Of course they know đ¤Ł. They know everything, especially about their PRs, and as you noticed too about Tympanumâs momentary forgetfulness đ¤Ł, thing that has been really hilarious đ¤Ł, Zach even tried to help her when her mind was only in Camiland đđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł. By the way, the music industry is small even if it doesnât look like it, and everyone knows everything about everyone. So yeah. They know 100%.
4) Yes, of course she lied, my dear. Iâve already given my opinion about it in that previous ask as youâve seen. Anyway, I honestly love what you said here: âI donât think they broke up as many cs think just because someone pointed it outâ. The just because someone pointed it out deserves a round of applause đđźđđźđđź because youâre right. Iâve seen this happen for years in this fandom. Someone gives their opinion on something, and everyone automatically thinks like the person who said it. They donât think with their brains. They donât question it. They simply follow like a herd of sheep. And Iâm sorry. Iâm sorry because they prefer to join the common thought rather than distinguishing themselves with their own. And itâs the same thing that happens with fake proofs or misinformation. People donât go check if theyâre real when someone puts them around. They just believe in it, and thatâs how the spread of something completely wrong happens even more. Ugh! đ¤Śđťââď¸
Thank you for the support and for reporting them, my dear đ¤. Iâm losing hope though because they arenât taking action yet, and thatâs honestly making me question again whether to create posts like that in the future đ.
Iâm much better now, my dear, but not 100% healthy yet đ. Thank you so much for your concern and for always being so kind in your asks â¤. I love you too and have a beautiful day too đ.
I know you werenât talking to me but, girls like me, dear? What do you mean by that? And, my love (romanticentropy đ)? That last part is for you đ.
Hi to you, dear Anon đđźđ. You know what, dear? You did absolutely right to have doubts about whether or not to believe it because thatâs straight-up bullshit. Sometimes I donât understand the people in this fandom. Do they all really have a short-term memory, or do they just enjoy misinforming people?
Did they forget that the girls werenât always allowed to write songs for the group? Have they forgotten how they were actually worked to the fucking bone to record songs written by others and how much they didnât like that because they didnât feel them authentic? Have they forgotten all the times that the 5 of them said it during and after the group? Have they forgotten that theyâve been treated like literal slaves for years? I can even give you the first three examples that come to my mind:
1) Interview with BUILD Series in August 2017. Right after Lo exposed the shit behind the scenes, Mani: âSongs that we were given.â Â Laur: âExactly! We werenât even like, believing in those songs either, so.â
2) The New York Times article on Mila released in January 2018: ââshe had asked to help write lyrics for Fifth Harmony songs and was rebuffed. /// Mila: âI was just curious and I wanted to learn and I saw all these people around me making music, writing songs and being so free. I just wanted to do that and it did not work.â
3) Very recent interview with Zach Sang. Laur: âA lot of what happened to us wasnât even us. It was-â Â Zack: âOh, totally.â Â Laur: â-all of the pieces around us.â Â Zack: âThat you really had no control over(?)â Â Laur: âAbsolutely none.â
No Way was both produced and written ENTIRELY and ONLY by Victoria MonĂŠt in 2014. The only songs the girls had a chance to co-write with other songwriters for their albums were:
- Me & My Girls, Donât Wanna Dance Alone, and Who Are You for Better Together (+ even the unreleased one: Drown on Solid Ground).
- All in My Head (Flex) for 7/27.
- And for the self-titled album: Sauced Up: Arlen - Make You Mad: Normally - Lonely Night: Norminah - Messy: Normally - Bridget: Alren.
Thatâs all. Periodt. Do those people really believe that with all the restrictions they had, Camren could have ghostwritten something when all five of them couldnât even officially write? 𤣠This is hilarious đ¤Łđ¤Ł. Not even the chosen one alone had that chance. If thatâs why, she got the chance to be in studios and officially create something only afterward, which was in December 2016 when she started the process for âThe Hurting. The Healing. The Loving.â with Frank Dukes (executive producer of her album Camila). Because, the only other permits she had? They were granted to her only for collaborations (I Know What You Did Last Summer, Bad Things, Know No Better, and other unreleased ones with Diplo). So what the hell are they talking about? đ¤Łđ¤Śđťââď¸
Did the girls feel a particular attachment to No Way? Of course, but not just Lauren. All five of them! Have they forgotten how Ally cried the first time they sang it live? How all five fought for having it in 7/27 and how especially Dinah and Laur did it? It was Loâs favorite for sure, and the other girls each had their own favorite, but it meant a lot to all of them. The fact that the lyrics represented Camren in a way, doesnât mean that they ghostwritten it with Victoria. The fact that Laur cried during it thus giving even more emotional attachment to the song in the eyes of us fans, doesnât mean that she and Camila contributed to the lyrics. It doesnât even mean the other bullshit I saw myself years ago, which was that Victoria wrote it for the two of them and based on the two of them. Like, no. Hell no.
Victoria is an amazing artist. Sheâs an amazing producer and even more, an amazing songwriter. The fact that these people want to shift the credits of her own creation, written and based on her personal life because yes, Victoria MonĂŠt is fucking bisexual, just to make their own fantasies real and validate, IS WRONG! Itâs so damn wrong and unfair to her. I can understand who consider No Way âa Camren songâ for obvious reasons. I mean, I myself canât help but think of them when I listen to it. But I canât and I refuse to understand when someoneâs imagination is spread around as the truth by consequently discriminating against someone elseâs work, in this case Victoriaâs. Itâs just not fair to her, her hard work, and her personal story behind the song.
As I said before, I really donât understand these people. Donât they understand that spreading fake pieces of information just because they want it to be true doesnât make it true, but it makes them and consequently all the rest of the CS delusionals? Do they like being called delusionals? Because I hate it. Because Iâm not. I hate it mostly because there are billions of proofs that prove Camren, but with their bullshit, they make even the real proofs pass off as bullshit. Canât they see it? And I hate being categorized as delusional just because those people make all of us, and therefore even those who arenât, consequently so.
News flash for all those who like to spread this bullshit: that behavior, helps the narratives. That behavior, doesnât make you real fans. It just makes you unreliable assholes. Sorry not sorry.
P.S. Iâm better, my dear. Donât worry and thanks for asking and for your concern đ. Hope youâre well and have a good day đ¤.
Hey to you, dear Anon đđźđ. Iâm better, thanks for asking, and I hope everythingâs going well for you too, bud đĽ°.
So. In my opinion, they chose November for a few reasons, and when I say they chose, I mean when they changed the dates because of covid. Keep in mind that these things are always decided beforehand. Before telling you the reasons, however, Iâd like to first explain the time frame of what in my opinion was decided at the beginning; the initial contract.
Their âstoryâ began on July 4, 2019. If this pandemic hadnât happened, they wouldnât have postponed the release of Cinderella (which was originally supposed to be released on February 5, 2021), yogurt majesty wouldâve released the original documentary (he himself said that it was a different one last year and that they had to cut many parts to make room for the new ones created after his tour dedicated then to his album; reason why the documentary was based on the creation of Wonder and no longer on his life on tour) and Mila wouldâve gone on tour. The Romance Tour was supposed to start on May 26, 2020, and finish on September 26, 2020.
Now, do you remember the bullshit about their break that lasted from August 13, 2020 (when the news came out thanks to that oh so casually âsourceâ who claimed they were in crisis) to October 2020 (when oh so coincidentally Skittles started doing interviews to promote Wonder)? You know, the excuse that he himself said that he hadnât been open and vulnerable to her? That was supposed to be the real period of the original breakup! Their farce was supposed to begin as planned on July 4, 2019, and end around the end of The Romance Tour with the excuse of the distance, their work and their ever-hectic schedules, the misunderstandings, and the bullshit that he too used to justify that break. It was supposed to last for 1 year and 2/4 months as a basic PR contract, but it didnât. Because of the fucking pandemic, every single one of their schedules was changed and adapted!
I can give you an example to make you understand better. The PR with Macaque lasted from February 9, 2018 (paparazzi pictures in Mexico) to May 11, 2019 (the last time they were photographed together), for 1 year and 2 months. Laurâs PR with Tijuana instead, lasted from February 12, 2017 (Grammy Awards 2017) to April 15, 2019 (both did a post on their social media), for 2 years and two months. Why in that case? Because the PR was divided into two parts. The first part for Lo, and the second part for Tymbal. Milaâs, on the other hand, were one-sided. The one with Matchbox was for her, and the one with Shaved was for him. Oh and, the one with Lubricant lasted 1 year and 8 months and it was one-sided as well and it was for Laur, so, you see? Same thing here.
Although it was only for Senseless, their PR was brought to the same amount of time as a bilateral one to compensate for the lost time and huge amount of money lost and which theyâd have gained if everything had gone as scheduled. Therefore, it lasted for 2 years and four months (from July 4, 2019, to November 17, 2021). Now back to the question that started this, why November? Well, in my opinion, first of all because it was the month decided. As I told you before, these kinds of things are planned in advance, so theyâve calculated that month based on whatâs coming next.
They got December covered thanks to Iâll Be Home for Christmas, and letâs say Milaâs second official single will be released in late January/early February. Sheâs even shot the music video for it already, and that means sheâll have plenty of time to promote it, do interviews, make appearances, and start re-promoting the album which oh so coincidentally will be âdifferentâ from the initial project, when not a comma has been changed in reality. So, yeah. Itâs also for Milaâs album and to change the narrative around it as you thought and asked me. And if you think about it, itâs the same tactic they used with the self-titled. They used her exit from the group and that overcome change/suffering as an excuse to âradically changeâ the direction and the title of the album when in reality, nothing had been changed and everything had been planned for the narrative. Now I think theyâll do the same thing since âsheâs getting over the breakup with what she believed was the love of her lifeâ đ¤˘. Donât fall for that shit.
Besides that, I think they chose November to have a month off. In addition to the little appearances that Mila is making, theyâre both free from interviews and free to relax until the ârealâ work awaits them in January, so theyâre finally both free to enjoy these holidays and spend their time with their families and friends without having to pretend anymore and divide their time between Miami and Toronto just for narrative purposes. So yeah. This is my opinion on the reasons for the choice of November. I could obviously be wrong, but thatâs what Iâve been thinking since last year because it makes the most sense to me, and I even wrote some of that in my PR stunt relationships post.
As for the questions about Shrimp instead, the release day decision is a lot easier than you might think. The reason why singers release their songs on Fridays, is because the charts of the streaming platforms (Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube, etc.) and a very important one especially in the United States like Billboard, which report the weekly popularity of songs and albums, start counting and tracking sales by starting from Friday until Thursday every week. So releasing on Friday, allows singers to enter the charts of singles or albums the first week, and have the whole rest of the week to gain streams and sales. Thatâs why itâs simply better to release on Fridays. Shuttleâs song wasnât a music move in this case. It wasnât about a hit and get numbers. It was obviously out of attention.
When you release on Friday, your song competes with all the others released on the same day, plus, those already released in the past that are still on the charts. Releasing mid-week in this case, it was more like a âHey, I just broke up with my girlfriend. Iâm not competing with anyone. Thatâs just my broken heartâ. It was like everything thatâs always been about him, a âgive me attention, give me attentionâ. It doesnât matter that the song isnât even on the charts right now. They got the post-breakup attention boom they wanted from both shitmila and curious people, and thatâs all for now. Theyâll start using the breakup again and Camila herself next year for publicity whenever they need it.
Oh and, of course heâs already working on his breakup album. He probably even already finished it đ. Also because, heâs been saying for years that he wanted to have a relationship only to be able to write (yeah, sure, because he âwritesâ) a breakup album, so đ¤Śđťââď¸.
And thatâs pretty much it. Donât thank me, my dear, and have a good day/night too đ¤.
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Aaand Iâm done đ
. Thank you all for your asks and I hope Iâve been helpful this time too đ. As usual, Iâm always available for those who have questions, so ask away đ.
Once again, happy holidays to you all!!!!! đĽđđâ¨đđ
Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Donât let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully đđź. Sending you virtual love and hugs đ¤đ¤đ¤. I love you, babies. Always with love, F â¤ď¸.
