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when i was 10 same sex marriage was legalised in england and wales. that summer i went to so many weddings. there were weeks i went to a wedding every single day, some days we had to choose which wedding to go to. i loved it cuz i got to dress up and hang out w a bunch of happy ppl and eat food and dance. when i see that quote abt how gay ppl during the aids crisis had to choose between funerals it reminds me of that summer. of how far weve come and how far we still have to go. hiv is now controllable with a pill once a day. only 6 ppl have ever been cured of aids. the uk wasnt hit nearly as hard by hiv/aids as other countries like it, partly cuz of a massive public information campaign. 20,000 ppl still died. i went to so many 10 year anniversary parties last year.

"what if they fucked" WRONG. what if they ruined each other's lives irreparably. what if there was nothing left but a smoldering heap. what if everything that brought them together twisted and corroded and ripped them apart. and then they fucked.

okay I'll bite

This gives an Addams family vibe and im hoping that’s the case

can i jump in.

I really hate the moralistic myths surrounding the Prohibition and the motivations behind it. It is a precautionary tale on why letting Evangelical moral outrage win is bad for everyone.

“We need to ban alcohol because it makes people violent and causes crime.” [HIGHEST HOMICIDE RATE OF THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY ENSUES, GOLDEN AGE OF ORGANIZED CRIME] “We need to ban alcohol because it is really, really, really bad for your health.” [GOVERNMENT POISONS ALCOHOL SUPPLIES, KNOWINGLY CAUSING THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE]

I think it's also relevant that there were genuine reasons for those complaints. "Alcohol makes people violent" was big in early feminist/suffragette circles because "dude gets drunk and beats his wife" was shockingly common then, and we don't need to get started on the health issues. BUT crucially, the police/govt were a terrible way to address those problems, and led only to further suffering.

I think the fundamental problem with that argument was that it was more convenient to blame the alcohol than the man. The logic was so beyond flawed that caused great harm. Of course a deeply misogynistic society latched on to blaming alcohol (and even spicy foods) for misbehavior and things they considered immoral. Prohibition did not stop men from abusing women, it didn’t even stop them from getting drunk. Many places had no specific laws against domestic violence during Prohibition and long after Prohibition ended.

I think I heard something similar to this but it seems to be more queer folks venting

I have several questions