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My petty ass when someone skinny buys something XXXL from a thrift store to ~transform~ it into a cute tailored cocktail dress: how about you leave the XXXL section alone so poor fat women out there can retain some sense of variety out of the 7 things that actually fit them in the god damn goodwill

Just to be clear I’m not talking about “I bought something a couple sizes larger than me and I’m taking it in”

I’m very specifically talking about THIS SORT OF THING

ugh the top and bottom ones make me especially furious because she removed the interesting part of the dress! those would both look adorable on me as is.

she could make an ugly black dress like that herself without chopping up a cool vintage dress in a rare larger size

a-lames-adventure

@maryburgers would you have gone to that specific theft store to buy that specific vintage dress? If you would have never gotten it then why would you degrade her for doing cute and interesting to a dress that probably would have just sat at the thrift store forever.

Hey you know what’s actually degrading? Making a habit, and by that I mean an entire blog, where you buy all the plus size clothes in a thrift store and then take pictures of yourself contrasting your tiny body against the IMPLLLAAAUSIBLY OUTRAGEOUSLY HUUUUGE clothing. That is degrading.

Also like, fat people live everywhere SOMEONE would have gone to that specific store and fit into those dresses as is and loved them, there are so little options for fat people everywhere, none of the alterations they made are special or unique, like they could easily find something similar in a thrift store at the same price point.

renaissanceenby

plus size clothes DON’T sit at the thrift store forever. general size clothes do. our donated clothes last maybe a few weeks tops at a thrift store because there’s a larger demand for them than supply, that’s why the sections are so damn small despite the average us woman being a size 14, because they’re picked over constantly by people who need clothes. i was not expecting to do this but i’m gonna go into deep detail so you understand why exactly this is fucked up.

poor people are more likely to be plus size because of lack of access to healthy food, which is the target demographic of a damn thrift store in the first place. thrift shopping is trendy now, which is fine, except when you buy clothes for projects like this that are in high demand but low supply: maternity clothes, plus size clothes, pajamas, etc. if you need clothing, buy it. but you can make any of these projects from clothes without poaching from low supply areas and taking comical pictures that mock fat bodies.

now here’s why there’s a ridiculously low supply of plus size clothes: fat people don’t have as many places to buy clothes and all of them have poor selection so we don’t buy a lot of them to begin with. the shopping pattern of a plus size person is very different from that of a straight size person as well. i know this from working in plus size retail. overwhelmingly, we shop when we desperately need clothes. and i mean desperately like hole the size of a basketball in the thigh of your jeans desperately. wearing a bra from 1998 desperately. work blazer held together with scotch tape and safety pins desperately. we can’t donate our clothes because we wear them until the point where we physically cannot anymore.

we also don’t cycle through trends as much as smaller sizes because a) shopping is a huge ordeal for a plus size person and b) our clothes cost WAY MORE so we can’t afford to wear an article of clothing once and then give it to goodwill. then on top of that none of the places that give you money for clothes EVER want your fatass clothes. skinny people can pop over to any secondhand clothing store that pays for donations and get some of that investment back. we can’t do that EVEN THOUGH our clothes cost way more than straight sizes. oh, and we get paid less than thinner women btw :) that’s always great.

so if we can’t regain any of our investment, we’re just gonna put up with clothes we don’t like until we can’t wear them anymore or we give them away in the case of weight loss (when ur fat you know a lot of other fatties, and if ur a queer/trans fatty someone is always having a clothing swap you can give to).

all of this adds up to make it so that thrift stores are in low supply of plus size clothes that more and more people need because us fatties? if we don’t look good we don’t get jobs. you cannot look even the slightest bit unkempt or you come off as lazy or bitchy, and if you have a family to support you can’t spend weeks looking for a job where they won’t judge your competence based upon whether your clothes are trendy or not. when you’re not plus size and you take away these clothes from needy women you are in small part enabling their suffering.

it shouldn’t be that way. women should have access to affordable, well fitting, professional clothing regardless of size. but that’s not the world we live in so you can’t just cover your ears and pretend that it is.

deansregeneratingrogue-deactiva

@a-lames-adventure please fucking read all the replies on this and get the fuck @ me

lady-feral

Perspective.

I understand both sides of this issue, but the majority of the replies are the ethically sound side.

hogna-lenta-deactivated20160930

Having gone from a size 4 to a size 14 due to weight gain from medication, I can tell you that there is absolutely NO NEED to destroy plus-size clothing in order to get cute cocktail dresses or whatever in a thrift store. There are TONS of adorable petite cocktail dresses, formal dresses, etc, for smaller women. And there is a huge lack of cute dresses for anyone larger than a 10. I’m not even considered ‘plus size’, and I still struggle to find dresses that don’t make me look like the Goodyear blimp, because I’m pretty sure designers give up once you get beyond a certain size and intentionally make the dresses as ugly as possible.

If you want to make your own dress, buy the fucking fabric and do it from a pattern. You can even make it from a ~*~vintage~*~ pattern if you want extra Twee Points. Don’t buy, cut up, and ruin a perfectly good plus-size dress, while taking mocking pictures of how OMGHUGE it is, in order to make a rather bland cocktail dress. There’s literally no need to do that other than that you’re unimaginative, selfish, and don’t care about plus-size women.

justasillynerd

This time x1000 Do you know how infuriating it is to try and find maternity clothes at a thrift store, find nothing, have to rely on you mom to spend $200 for 5 fucking items, and then go on pintrest and see some girl who would fit 90% of the clothes at the thrift store cutting up a maternity dress to make a blouse that looks like one you can by at urban Forever 21?

brokeyourstupidcrap

Ngl I shop the XL-XXL sections at thrift stores specifically for linen fabric dresses. I’m a Viking re-enactor and YES I’ve mostly purchased my own fabric for my costumes. And let me tell, those expenses add the fuck up.

I think what a lot of people on this thread fail to realize when they say “Skinny bitches need to go buy their own fabric” is that fabric is fucking expensive these days. With an argument like that, you start getting into the whole poverty/capitalism debate because a well tailored dress straight off a retail rack can cost you +$60. Meanwhile, if you can’t get coupons or it just isn’t on sale, a single yard of quality fabric is +$12. You need at least 3.5-4 yards of fabric to make a dress and still have some left over for mistakes. And clearance? It is rare you find the material you want that hasn’t been mangled down to maybe a yard or two. That’s barely an accessory, much less enough for an outfit. Making an outfit from scratch (+embellishments and trims) can add up anywhere from $80-100.

So yeah, we do need to start first looking in our own sizes for clothes, to at least cut the down the time to make an outfit, and to give others a chance to buy it who need it.

But, and going back to my statement about Viking re-enactment…. a yard of true linen fabric? Costs fucking $30! That’s (at the most) $120 a dress, without any added trim/hems, and embroidery. And don’t get me started on the cost of wool fabric. So yeah, us re-enactors are going to find some outdated $6 linen moo-moos that have been on the rack for ages and use them. It’s been a trick of the trade for decades because historical outfits are long and flowing and take a lot of fabric to make, especially if you’ve got to make them historically accurate with proper gores and sleeves and removing any zippers/buttons, etc.

*edit: why are “skinny bitches” the only ones being told to make their own clothes? If you can’t find what you want at the shops, why don’t YOU make it? I mean, from what the discussion seems to be so far, it’s sooooo easy (ps it’s not and I’m not saying plus-sized people should be forced to, but it’s vaguely hypocritical to use that as your main argument).

grandenchanterfiona

Because, in this case, it’s skinny women taking these clothes and sewing them for hobbies.

As for your ‘I’m a cosplayer, I need to buy plus sized clothes to make costumes!’ No. You fucking don’t. You /want/ to make costumes. I /need/ clothes to wear to job interviews. To wear out to the store. As do most other fat women.

Poor fat people who need clothes to, you know, be able to go out of our houses, should not have to compete with you ‘needing’ these clothes for your hobbies.

brokeyourstupidcrap

You DO need clothes, but the whole re-enactor thing isn’t a ‘hobby’ it’s literally my second job (on top of a shitty waitress gig). I get commissioned to make these clothes by other re-enactors, some of whom can’t afford the price of fabric off the shelf (again, that’s over $100 a pop) and that is also THEIR literal job (i.e. not hobby). I’m attempting to not have a shitty job and move up in the world by meeting influential historians/archaeologists at these viking things so yeah. Beyond the crappy cheap black stuff for my day job, the rest of my clothes need to be top of the line historical wear.

Seriously, my point of all of this is fuck that tumblr mentality of ganging up on people you don’t even know. Guess what? I’m fucking poor ass broke. So apparently are you. You are all getting mad at the wrong people--if anything, get mad at retail who constantly cater to young, skinny, rich people. But to those of us ALSO trying to get by? Why the hate? Seriously, if it’s so easy for us to make clothes like you’re demanding us do, why don’t you do it? You’ll be happy with what you create versus settling for something you hate off a thrift store rack. Oh wait, because sewing your own clothes for a living is expensiiiiive.

fragile-teacup

How do you like your Mads in the morning?

avegetariancannibal

The same way I like my coffee in the morning. Spilled in my lap.

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#mads mikkelsen

My petty ass when someone skinny buys something XXXL from a thrift store to ~transform~ it into a cute tailored cocktail dress: how about you leave the XXXL section alone so poor fat women out there can retain some sense of variety out of the 7 things that actually fit them in the god damn goodwill

Just to be clear I’m not talking about “I bought something a couple sizes larger than me and I’m taking it in”

I’m very specifically talking about THIS SORT OF THING

ugh the top and bottom ones make me especially furious because she removed the interesting part of the dress! those would both look adorable on me as is.

she could make an ugly black dress like that herself without chopping up a cool vintage dress in a rare larger size

a-lames-adventure

@maryburgers would you have gone to that specific theft store to buy that specific vintage dress? If you would have never gotten it then why would you degrade her for doing cute and interesting to a dress that probably would have just sat at the thrift store forever.

Hey you know what’s actually degrading? Making a habit, and by that I mean an entire blog, where you buy all the plus size clothes in a thrift store and then take pictures of yourself contrasting your tiny body against the IMPLLLAAAUSIBLY OUTRAGEOUSLY HUUUUGE clothing. That is degrading.

Also like, fat people live everywhere SOMEONE would have gone to that specific store and fit into those dresses as is and loved them, there are so little options for fat people everywhere, none of the alterations they made are special or unique, like they could easily find something similar in a thrift store at the same price point.

renaissanceenby

plus size clothes DON’T sit at the thrift store forever. general size clothes do. our donated clothes last maybe a few weeks tops at a thrift store because there’s a larger demand for them than supply, that’s why the sections are so damn small despite the average us woman being a size 14, because they’re picked over constantly by people who need clothes. i was not expecting to do this but i’m gonna go into deep detail so you understand why exactly this is fucked up.

poor people are more likely to be plus size because of lack of access to healthy food, which is the target demographic of a damn thrift store in the first place. thrift shopping is trendy now, which is fine, except when you buy clothes for projects like this that are in high demand but low supply: maternity clothes, plus size clothes, pajamas, etc. if you need clothing, buy it. but you can make any of these projects from clothes without poaching from low supply areas and taking comical pictures that mock fat bodies.

now here’s why there’s a ridiculously low supply of plus size clothes: fat people don’t have as many places to buy clothes and all of them have poor selection so we don’t buy a lot of them to begin with. the shopping pattern of a plus size person is very different from that of a straight size person as well. i know this from working in plus size retail. overwhelmingly, we shop when we desperately need clothes. and i mean desperately like hole the size of a basketball in the thigh of your jeans desperately. wearing a bra from 1998 desperately. work blazer held together with scotch tape and safety pins desperately. we can’t donate our clothes because we wear them until the point where we physically cannot anymore.

we also don’t cycle through trends as much as smaller sizes because a) shopping is a huge ordeal for a plus size person and b) our clothes cost WAY MORE so we can’t afford to wear an article of clothing once and then give it to goodwill. then on top of that none of the places that give you money for clothes EVER want your fatass clothes. skinny people can pop over to any secondhand clothing store that pays for donations and get some of that investment back. we can’t do that EVEN THOUGH our clothes cost way more than straight sizes. oh, and we get paid less than thinner women btw :) that’s always great.

so if we can’t regain any of our investment, we’re just gonna put up with clothes we don’t like until we can’t wear them anymore or we give them away in the case of weight loss (when ur fat you know a lot of other fatties, and if ur a queer/trans fatty someone is always having a clothing swap you can give to).

all of this adds up to make it so that thrift stores are in low supply of plus size clothes that more and more people need because us fatties? if we don’t look good we don’t get jobs. you cannot look even the slightest bit unkempt or you come off as lazy or bitchy, and if you have a family to support you can’t spend weeks looking for a job where they won’t judge your competence based upon whether your clothes are trendy or not. when you’re not plus size and you take away these clothes from needy women you are in small part enabling their suffering.

it shouldn’t be that way. women should have access to affordable, well fitting, professional clothing regardless of size. but that’s not the world we live in so you can’t just cover your ears and pretend that it is.