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Well, obviously, I love the story tons.

Best moment? In BE1 When Raquel and Naoto went to an adult store to find clues on Kana’s whereabouts and Raquel looked at these dildos and was, like “What are these?”, and the store attendant said they were too big for her and she should look for something smaller. Naoto’s just cursing Clavis for not educating her on the birds and the bees the entire time.

Worst moment? Every lewd Remix Heart panel. Made it an absolute bloody nightmare to read when I was in school. Tied with Kana being forced to do sex acts for Tadayuki in BE.

(I get the irony between the best and worst moments, but the first is plain funny and the latter is just explicit)

Interesting aspects? For me, it’s how everything connects. How everything is all linked but it’s just not apparent at first. Like Durarara!!, or Heroes (which I personally find excellent).

I don’t know much about the outside canon because little of it is fully translated. I know a good amount about Ragna (thanks abyss! :D You’re a pal!) but that’s about it. Obvious bias is obvious. 

Anyway, with that in mind, my thoughts on Blazblue as a story are mixed. I obviously love the characters, Ragna especially. I have some that cause me some very obvious gripes (*glares at Noel and Kagura*) but for the most part, I like their energy, how they bounce off of one another, and the intrigue that they bring to the table. 

The plots themselves are... alright. The thing about fighting game story is that it’s very, very very hard to do well. The core story has to be simple with a deep and complex lore to make everything in the inevitably diverse cast make perfect sense. For the most part, Blazblue does a decent job of this, but I don’t like that Mori seems to answer some questions with more questions even as the series ends (or worse still, answering them completely with a bULLSHIT RETCON that happens so much i can’t even i mean jin can just decide FUCK DEATH I DO WHAT I WANT?! Really, Mori?! Oh and don’t even get me started on Noel--) *ahem*

It’s the lore that I both love and have issues with. Namely because there is usually three versions of everything (Which mind eater curse are we talking about at any given moment? No clue. Tsubaki is under one, Phantom and Kazuma were under another, and Hazama can use a third one.), there’s not a clear answer for what distinguishes some things (Magic v. Sorcery is only distinguished by “one is fancier and harder”, mana v seithr aren’t well distinguished, the aforementioned THREE DIFFERENT MIND EATER CURSES WHERE TWO ARE DISTINGUISHED PURELY BY WHO CAN BREAK THEM), etc. It’s not clarified and consistent, which makes making theories, understanding the world, and sometimes even getting a character’s actions incredibly difficult. Not helping is that sometimes what piece of lore was given to us incorrectly will be obvious (seriously if you didn’t know Ragna’s Azure was gonna be real by CF I dunno what to tell you....), but others will be a case of pure WTF (See: the entire plot of CF in the early days. God were we confused.)

I think if someone just came in with an editor, smacked mori’s hands a few times, and generally got the whole thing written down into a nice, consistent whole, it’d probably help everything. But the troubles with the lore make Blazblue often impenetrable to outsiders. No joke, I once explained everyone’s importance from CT-CSEX and their basic plotlines to a friend who actually played blazblue, because it was that hard to follow. I’m sure Ben knows just as well as I that someone who can clean up and explain lore is essential to actually getting into the series, otherwise you’re going to be completely lost, and that’s a terrible thing for a story. 

>>; If anyone’s ever wondered why I am obsessed with doing a fan rewrite of the story once CF completes, now you know. I just wanna get everything sorted out for my own piece of mind. It’s hard to write for a series when you can’t fully understand the lore. It’s hard to read characters when you don’t know the background info that drives their actions. It’s hard to get into a story when you’re missing crucial information. So part of me just wants to... streamline that. For everyone’s sake. 

Hello! Wow, it seems you guys really seemed to agree with or find interest in the Rachel theory! Since it seems like things are going p well, I figure I might as well throw out a few of my other predictions for the game, based on that trailer. Most of them are based purely on cinematography, but much like an anime opening, the visuals/words/editing of a trailer often foreshadow events that are planned to happen in the story. So I figure that it at least has some weight, even if it’s basically speculation.

Terumi and Ragna are going to fight… but this time, they’ll be equally matched. The reason I say this is because in the clip we see of Ragna and Terumi fighting, their attacks are the same size, and the two mirror each other. This would imply that their powers are roughly equal now. Knowing that Ragna’s Azure is supposedly real (so says Relius) this may be the reason why.

Nine is going to betray Celica. Well, sort of. She’s definitely going to do something that Celica considers upsetting/horrible. Near the end of the trailer, you can hear her saying something in a quite maniacal (while I don’t know what it says exactly, the word “to end” and the word for “dream” do come up. Which probably means whatever she said has to do with her desire to end the world.) In the clip, Nine seems to attack someone ahead of her, Celica gasps in fear, and Ragna comes in to shield her from a fire attack. Nine being the only person that uses fire aside from Bullet, and, well, basic continuity editing would indicate that she was the one who fired the attack at her sister. Combining this altogether seems to imply that Nine will go against Celica’s wishes at the least, and possibly betray her. It’s also likely that Ragna will have to intervene, and that there will be a big Nine v. Ragna battle (although admittedly, that much was kind of obvious.)

Good question! The answer is I have no clue. T_T 

Unfortunately, I only know that it is real. The CF arcade mode doesn’t give a lot of information, and it doesn’t give a lot of exposition, so the how and why aren’t explained too clearly. All I can tell you is that Ragna encounters Relius in the embryo, and Relius says something along the lines of “Hmm… I was almost certain it was an imitation, but… if “this” is the real Azure, then… I see.” and then adds “You really are the Man of Azure… if he’s the real one, then it’s worth seeing this through to the end…” 

And then nobody mentions it ever again. :(

Azrael seems to imply the scope of his power may very well be godly though, but this might just be a case of two sentences being put together in a way that gives different meaning then intended. At any rate, the two have a conversation post-fight where Azrael says that Ragna is the “correct” one, and that it’s too early to fight him, but when he’s ready, he’s hoping to use his full power against the man. Which is… some pretty high expectations. He then brings up his contract with the reward of fighting the gods when Ragna asks what the hell he’s saying. While it’s not outright stated, one might be able to infer that he’s saying Ragna is at a godly level/actually a god. *Shrugs* It might not be that though. We can only wait and see. 

Theeeen 3rd act doesn’t tell us much either. He does mention that he thinks “[he] knows” the girl in the amaterasu unit… or rather that she knows him. 

Those might mean that Ragna actually always had some form of great power because he was far, far more than he seemed. Of course, Relius also said that he was almost certain it was an imitation. And Relius is usually p straightforward about things that are interesting to him, so it could mean that he always had some doubts about that, and that it might very well have always been real. Which brings up more interesting questions, considering his connections to Ragna’s past before living in the church.

Regarding the Azure, i was kinda thinking on this a bit and it just came to me but since Ragna’s been told not to mistake the power of the Azure as his own, and he’s been able to grow and learn that (finally), perhaps him being at terms with that is what makes it a true Azure because he’s relying on his own strength?

As for Ragna’s origins, at this point I wonder if he was pulled from the boundary, or maybe he’s another hidden “deity” or someone with that potential thanks to the Azure – Jin does have the power of order, Saya is…well the host of Hades Izanami (if I remember right). 

Ragna’s origins though... oh god is THAT one hell of a mess. >>; This is why I don’t really give anything too definite on my RP blog because we just got nothing to go on for him. All we know is that:

-He and all of his siblings are extraordinarily powerful, associated with gods to some extent (Jin associated with Susano-o, Saya associated in some ways with Amaterasu as well as Hades Izanami, and Ragna’s association with the moon and sort of affiliation with Rachel, who takes influence from Kaguya-Hime, etc.), and regularly break the rules of reality.

-Ragna is, at the least, a prime field device (one is required to create the black beast, along with some of the Azure, and he can become the black beast without Nu.)

-He is one of three cast members most closely associated with the Azure at the moment (the others being Noel and Es) 

-He was confined in a lab during his childhood, along with his siblings, and was likely experimented on by Relius. Relius, however, didn’t seem to expect much out of Jin or Ragna, and doesn’t really even recognize them (and they don’t in turn). So for all we know they could have been failures where Saya was the success. If only Relius would actually TALK ABOUT IT-- *ahem* 

Hello! Wow, it seems you guys really seemed to agree with or find interest in the Rachel theory! Since it seems like things are going p well, I figure I might as well throw out a few of my other predictions for the game, based on that trailer. Most of them are based purely on cinematography, but much like an anime opening, the visuals/words/editing of a trailer often foreshadow events that are planned to happen in the story. So I figure that it at least has some weight, even if it’s basically speculation.

Terumi and Ragna are going to fight… but this time, they’ll be equally matched. The reason I say this is because in the clip we see of Ragna and Terumi fighting, their attacks are the same size, and the two mirror each other. This would imply that their powers are roughly equal now. Knowing that Ragna’s Azure is supposedly real (so says Relius) this may be the reason why.

Nine is going to betray Celica. Well, sort of. She’s definitely going to do something that Celica considers upsetting/horrible. Near the end of the trailer, you can hear her saying something in a quite maniacal (while I don’t know what it says exactly, the word “to end” and the word for “dream” do come up. Which probably means whatever she said has to do with her desire to end the world.) In the clip, Nine seems to attack someone ahead of her, Celica gasps in fear, and Ragna comes in to shield her from a fire attack. Nine being the only person that uses fire aside from Bullet, and, well, basic continuity editing would indicate that she was the one who fired the attack at her sister. Combining this altogether seems to imply that Nine will go against Celica’s wishes at the least, and possibly betray her. It’s also likely that Ragna will have to intervene, and that there will be a big Nine v. Ragna battle (although admittedly, that much was kind of obvious.)

Good question! The answer is I have no clue. T_T 

Unfortunately, I only know that it is real. The CF arcade mode doesn’t give a lot of information, and it doesn’t give a lot of exposition, so the how and why aren’t explained too clearly. All I can tell you is that Ragna encounters Relius in the embryo, and Relius says something along the lines of “Hmm... I was almost certain it was an imitation, but... if “this” is the real Azure, then... I see.” and then adds “You really are the Man of Azure... if he’s the real one, then it’s worth seeing this through to the end...” 

And then nobody mentions it ever again. :(

Azrael seems to imply the scope of his power may very well be godly though, but this might just be a case of two sentences being put together in a way that gives different meaning then intended. At any rate, the two have a conversation post-fight where Azrael says that Ragna is the “correct” one, and that it’s too early to fight him, but when he’s ready, he’s hoping to use his full power against the man. Which is... some pretty high expectations. He then brings up his contract with the reward of fighting the gods when Ragna asks what the hell he’s saying. While it’s not outright stated, one might be able to infer that he’s saying Ragna is at a godly level/actually a god. *Shrugs* It might not be that though. We can only wait and see. 

Theeeen 3rd act doesn’t tell us much either. He does mention that he thinks “[he] knows” the girl in the amaterasu unit... or rather that she knows him. 

Those might mean that Ragna actually always had some form of great power because he was far, far more than he seemed. Of course, Relius also said that he was almost certain it was an imitation. And Relius is usually p straightforward about things that are interesting to him, so it could mean that he always had some doubts about that, and that it might very well have always been real. Which brings up more interesting questions, considering his connections to Ragna’s past before living in the church.