Hi there! I’m wondering if you could do an iron dad analysis from STEVE’s point of view. I know that might sound weird, but I’ve noticed that he heard Peter going on and on about Tony during the Civil War fight and then he was the first person to witness Tony’s heartbreak when he tells him “I lost the kid” and then he saves Peter’s life in battle by lifting him away from the aliens with the hammer. Connections, maybe? I’d really enjoy more depth on that from you. Thanks a million!
I’m going to answer this one with this one:
‘‘Do you think during the five years Tony was secretly hoping that he could find a way to bring Peter back to life? Because he certainly didn’t seem to be trying when we first see him after the time jump. I know, I know he had Morgan, but why would he give up on Peter? Had that genius really lost all hope before he heard Scott’s idea?‘‘
I do believe Tony was trying to bring him back but he was doing it behind everyone’s back. You see, Tony trusted the avengers and they didn’t believe him when he needed them to believe in him. For people that fight aliens, robots and all kinds of creatures, why was it so hard to believe when Tony warned them that an alien was about to come and destroy everything? Steve’s solution to the problem was ‘we’ll do that together too’ and I’m sorry, I respect the idea of Steve’s character but that is a very weak argument, as heroic as it sounds, all of them dying together without coming for a solution for the rest of the world is dangerous and naive.
Tony trusted them to believe him about his vision and this is the response he got from them:
All of them rolled their eyes when he mentioned New York again and the aliens. He was the only one still thinking about it and just like he mentioned in IW, Thanos has been inside his head for six years.
Look, even if I understand Thor’s anger in here, yes Tony was playing with something he didn’t completely understand at the time and it was dangerous but you and I both know Tony was right all along. Thor even admitted this in the same movie, but I still find it so bizarre that no one really tried to protect Tony when this happened:
They just stood there. And I don’t know, it was really bizarre for me. It’s really hard for me to grasp the concept of them being a family when I really didn’t feel that connection. Yes, they’re a team and yes, they work well together but I think Tony always felt like the outsider of the group. One thing I mentioned in my Endgame analysis is that I was glad Tony finally stood his ground and stayed with the people who are his real family. Pepper, Peter, Rhodey, Happy, Morgan and maybe Bruce.
This is his family. And he knows this. He trusted the avengers, especially Steve, to be there and he got disappointed, hence his long-awaited breakdown. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe Tony was angry at Cap for everything and that the backlash was a long time coming but I feel like Tony was grieving. He was angry Peter was dead, he was angry at himself for letting it happen. He was angry at Steve for letting that happen, because he trusted them all to be a team and have his back and he didn’t have that. He lost Peter because of that failure. He obviously wasn’t going to trust Peter to them ever again.
‘Tony, I’m gonna need you to focus.
Well, guess what, Cap? We lost.- You weren’t there.
I got nothing for you, Cap. I got no coordinates, no clues, no strategies, no options… Zero. Zip. Nada. No trust, you liar…
So when Steve and the others wanted a solution from him, he denied it because he feels like they already took something from him and he doesn’t want to risk the other part.
‘I got my second chance right here, Cap. I can’t roll the dice again.’ He basically is telling them that Peter was his first chance and that he can’t go through the pain of losing a child he’s most likely still grieving, again.
Tony was already playing around with ways of bringing everyone back. Here a few hints:
He says he got a mild inspiration and then proceeds to ask for one last sim procedure of the implementation to break a causality loop. He obviously played with this before, and while he was talking with Scott, he mentions this:
Why didn’t we think of this before? Oh! Because it’s laughable?
And when he’s talking with Pepper, he says: ‘I figured it out’ like it’s something he discussed with her before.
From Steve’s point of view, all Cap knows is that losing Peter changed Tony forever. Steve never saw Tony give up, he never saw Tony hide and he never saw him as broken as he was when he lost Peter but I don’t think he can identify Peter and Spiderman as a whole. I think he knows he lost a ‘kid’ but he doesn’t fully grasp who Peter is. He kept looking at Tony like he didn’t understand what got him so broken.
And I don’t know if anyone noticed but this is the first time Steve is watching Tony cry and this is the second time we’re watching it after IW. All of this because he lost Peter.
He can’t understand because he wasn’t there but he can see it. Everyone can see it: