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I haven't done a comprehensive review on the NolanOdyssey (Nodessey for short) yet, but I did just rb something with my thoughts on the ending, and I would like to post that as a standalone, too.
This is me looking at the movie as a LOOSE adaptation a la EPIC even though it didn't advertise itself as such. (So yes, this is me being nice because you told me I would get the The Wizard of Oz and you gave me Wicked and that's just not very cool to do if someone wanted to see The Wizard of Oz like for anything besides the witches)
This is also me slowly realizing that it's worse than I thought.
Spoilers ahead. Also very very long post. Keep reading if you already saw my reblog cos I added like double as much.
Imo the onle thing they could have done with what the movie set up was to kill Odysseus
Let him get physically home, let him reach his goal, but by needing to commit violence in his own home, the violence that the movie wants to condemn so much, even if it's lowk justified in this instance, this last breaking of Zeus's law, needs to end with consequences.
Like this way, the movie communicates "you should feel bad about your war crimes and violence is bad but you will still get a mostly happy ending if you slaughter the right people"
But if the point is that violence destroys civilization, why shouldn't it destroy Odysseus in the end because he went too far down the path? Wouldn't that bring the point home more?
You regretted it and you understood it but it was too late because the world has started to crumble from the violence you started. It's tragic because you understood but you couldn't fix it anymore. You reached a home you already destroyed 10 years ago when you destroyed the Trojans' home and you can't. do. a .thing.
Idk the movie is trying to be really dark and tragic, I think it should have had the balls and committed to it.
And in regard to irl issues I think it's a stronger message to say "you might reach the point of no return way before it looks like it could affect you personally, so fucking watch it" rather than "you should regret the wars you started cos they're bad" no. No regrets ten years later. That's not enough. When it reaches you it's already burned through millions of lives and it's too fucking late. Especially the western world needs to learn that it's not enough to regret it by the point it starts affecting you. We need to understand that everything we do, no matter how far away it seems now, will come back and destroy so much more and then we won't be able to stop it anymore, so DON'T DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
The more I think about it, the more I hate the message actually. This line of thinking is exactly what is eating my country alive right now. Some bitch ass politicians did nothing to improve things for ages because it got them reelected; they refused to actually react when things started getting more difficult, and now everyone's surprised that no one trusts the government and is voting right wing slop and you can't stop it anymore because it's BROKEN. you broke this. Now you can stand there and be sorry but you broke it.
And that is just my country, a lot of countries have this exact issue. And in 5 years some asshole can say they're sorry about how AI took over the world. We can feel regret for the world burning because of climate change. We say sorry for plastic in the oceans and for children who starve and IT DOESN'T MEAN SHIT. Regret doesn't change that you crossed the line.
This exact line of thinking that regret is the first step to betterment is destroying everything right now. Societally, regret is not always the first step to betterment, sometimes it's just the helpless reaction to something you started and can no longer fix.
Odysseus doesn't need to die in the Nodessey as retribution for his actions or as a just punishment for his crimes. This isn't karma. He needs to die because people need to understand that the line MUST NOT BE CROSSED. We can't cross the line and then feel virtuous about feeling sorry, we cannot cross the fucking line. He cannot have a happy ending because that would mean we might get a happy ending if we cross the line. And we won't. We'll watch everything burn, helpless to stop it, so we need to stop it NOW.
Using this message as oscar bait and virtue signaling honestly makes me sick.
you decided to write a man who destroyed an entire civilization and then gave him a happy-ish ending because he understood the error of his ways. And it is not framed as unfair, it is framed as what he deserves. because he felt bad.
The fact that a king is the only person who doesn't have to live the consequences of his own actions as much as everyone else is realistic, but it should be framed as unjust.
The rest of us won't be able to take a ship west with our wives when society is destroyed, we will have to be here and live it, and we need to understand that it'll be too late by then.
and there are plenty of cases where regret is a good first step to change things in the future, ofc, you should always try to make things better. You can't change the past but you can change the future and all that.
Only that with the scenario that the Nodessey creates and that is ever so modern and pressing to current day issues, the moral should be: you fuck up in the past, you will not be able to change the future, so don't fuck up the present as long as you can still make choices.
I'm sorry for sounding doomsdayerish, but like. We're near so many lines irl and some millionaire director whose crew threw plastic props in protected waters teaches us that maybe *we* will be fine if everything burns, but we will feel like really bad about it. We'll sail west toward the setting sun with our wife and honor the dead and not have to live the consequences.
which is what the western world usually does, but shouldn't your moral be that we shouldn't be *allowed* to flee our consequences? That at some point, we will no longer be able to, and we should act before that happens? That this is not a happy or even hopeful ending but pretty much the saddest and most cynical thing that could have happened at the end of this movie?
Instead we get Society will collapse but we're having a serene moment reminiscing about the world that we destroyed but we still have each other so yay.
Okay yeah so i don't actually want to hear that the Nodessey might be a bad adapation but it has good themes. It doesn't. It actually teaches exactly the wrong thing. And no, the ending is not intended to be a commentary on what I just laid out and actually a sad ending, it's not edited that way at all. It's just the cozy comfy from-the-couch moral of war is bad and regret is enough even if you destroyed society with your past actions.
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the story goes like bruce hates the criminal element, he despises looters, thieves. along comes jason. hes a thief but he has a good heart and doesnt want to hurt anyone. a boy of the "criminal element" can be good. can be a hero. jason is murdered. retroactively his criminality determined this would always happen. Stephanie is not herself a criminal but is tainted by association with her father. there is no hope for crime ally. leslie is a fraud and a murderer. every adaptation pushes jason away from "before bruce exposed him to violence he was not violent, he was good; red hood is batmans creation" and explicitly into "jason was always bad, batman made a bad character judgment, jason was unhelpable"
"we cut the nobody scene from the odyssey" "we cut the religious trauma and parental abuse from carrie" i'm starting to think that studios barely funding original films is starting to have an effect where directors make up a story and then slap an IP on it in order to sell. or maybe some bitches just can't read anymore idk it's one or the other
The “nobody” scene in the odyssey is absolutely not just a clever pun—it’s a character defining moment for Odysseus because he refuses to be nobody. He devised an incredible plan that worked and he could have saved his men and returned home much sooner but he just had to yell to the cyclops that he isn’t nobody—he’s Odysseus, king of Ithaca so now Poseidon knows who to curse which severely fucks up the rest of the journey.
The “nobody” scene highlights both Odysseus’s cleverness but also his arrogance and those two traits define Odysseus throughout the entire story. It’s a foundational aspect of Odysseus’s character and cutting the scene displays a shocking level of ignorance and disregard for the themes in the source material.
Yes, he has his problems. Yes, his writing of women leaves a lot to be desired. Yes, yes, yes.
But god, I admire the fuck out of Christopher Nolan. I have loved this guy's work ever since I first saw Interstellar, more than 10 years ago, and then learned that he planted a real field of corn to film in, and used screens projecting pictures of space rather than greenscreens etc.
In this age of AI slop, AI actors, generated backgrounds, greenscreen CGI and whatever bullshit the MCU is running on, a guy with a real passion for the craft--not the money, not the product, but the craft of filmmaking--is such a dose of reality that I just can't not admire him. As long as he keeps doing his thing, I'm gonna go to the theatres for every single Nolan film, because I know that real work went into its making and it matters to me so much. So. Much.
Seriously, I'm willing to let an embarrassing amount of shit slide for some genuine cinematography. I'm not even kidding.
(The Circe scene was prosthetics and practical effects!!! They filmed on a real ship on the sea!!! Don't mind me while I explode with a burst of love for the craft of filmmaking!!!)
Just realized that the headcanon of Adrian being flocked with suitors decades after Rocky has been gone, all vying for their attention, while they're just patiently waiting for their husband to come home because he's not dead, he's very much alive, I KNOW HE IS, GO AWAY.
And like.
We just made Penelope.
Adrian is literally the Penelope to Rocky's Odysseus.
Idk, someone's probably already thought of this but whatever.
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The bow being plucked in the odyssey was the sound of a period accurate lyre by the way. Exactly like how bards would emphasize beats and motifs and movements in their retelling of myths. If you even care.
i thought the “this is the face that launched a thousand ships, although now it would maybe be five-hundred.” line was just an internet joke but apparently that's a line Menelaus actually says in Nolan's Odyssey??
Not only that the language itself sounds straight out of a marvel forcibly funny haha moment, but Menelaus? The Menelaus who all thoughout human history, from Homer, to Sappho, to Euripides, to Virgil, to Shakespeare, to Brooke, to Barth; from Classical vases to Medieval poetry to Reinessance art, has been known as the man whose sword fell from his hands at the sight of his wife after 10 years apart?
"What joy for me to hold my wife" Menelaus?
"He flung the sword away, and kissed her feet" Menelaus?
"I believe all. I understand nothing. I love you" Menelaus?
"I have no fault to find; my wife, he daughter of Zeus and Leda, is mine again, she whom her brothers on their snow-white steeds, whilst torches blazed, made my happy bride, but gods removed her from my home." Menelaus?
The Menelaus who was picked out of the suitors by Helen herself? The Menelaus who couldn't kill a begging Trojan so his brother had to do it for him? The Menelaus who rescued Odysseus and got out Patroclus' body? The Menelaus who volounteered to fight Paris one on one so everybody could go home? Who kept expressing his guilt about himself being the cause of war through every assembly he spoke at in the Iliad? Who after 10 years away at Troy, took his wife through a 7-year long journey at sea back home, where he reinstated her as the queen of Sparta? Who wept like a child in front of Telemachus recalling the war and his brother and all the friends he lost and the only consolation being his wife' gentle hand on his?
You want me to believe that man scarred Helen's face and called her only worth half the ships because of it?
I'm actually physically sick just thinking about it.
Saw someone say they think the person in the foreground of this shot is Steve and if it is it makes the poses and expressions on Sam + Bucky's faces so much funnier.
we are witnessing the gentrification of the term "tumblr sexyman" in real time and it is extremely disappointing. like no, live-action white boy #265 played by ryan gosling isn't a tumblr sexyman. i can't believe i have to say this but if it wouldn't get you shoved into a locker it probably isn't a sexyman
how eerie to hear they're going to remake carrie. how eerie to hear they have made the mother into some kind of gentle well-meaning figure.
carrie is almost explicitly about the cycles of abuse. it is almost explicitly about how women and girls are taught to reproduce the patriarchy. it cannot be isolated from either message.
it shows cruel teenagers not as a random whacky plot point but instead to highlight that we are taught to mock other girls for not being fuckable; lest we ourselves be considered not-fuckable. we will eat our own kind to survive. nobody helps her because to help carrie would be to turn against the patriarchy.
carrie's mother has experienced abuse at the hands of her husband and religion not as a "sad backstory" but instead because it lampshades her behavior when she then turns and abuses her daughter while citing that same religion. we are forced to ask the question: what is the difference between the patriarchy and religion? aren't they both systems of control? we often see mothers as being the "ultimate" in innocence and kindness - but this book challenges that narrative. abusive mothers exist, and and always have. abusive women exist and always have. white women, after all, love voting for donald trump.
men are almost absent from the book, but their presence lingers. it feels almost like the red mark made after a slap - the men do not have to be there; the women will continue to abide by the rules without question. it is a devastating, haunting condemnation of the notion of feminine fragility. it accurately asserts that women are cruel, are capable, are power-hungry - and often are hiding behind perceived innocence to mask that cruelty. the abuse carrie experiences rests in a doubled betrayal: it is because of another woman. the supposed "sisterhood" is revealed to be thin, a guise of equanimity that is only offered to the "right" type of girl/woman.
many of us were not the right type of girl.
to go back on these main and obvious themes of the book - to rewrite the mother as some caring and sad creature is... a curious choice. i can't explain it, but it feels almost like censorship to me. it refuses a deeper meaning of the book (and one that questions the patriarchy) in favor of the incredibly thin plot of "what if scary girl had scary powers." i literally don't even know what level of misogyny it is that we have to defang everyone around her in order to tell her story. i'm baffled by it.
in the era of trad wives endlessly posting abusive content of their children online - the adaptation had plenty of meat to modernize her mother. in the era of AI and revenge porn and social media - there's a huge amount of space for a competent writer to play around in. after all, if the abuse is recorded and posted to media - and as the audience we're watching it without interfering - the story is now about us. it asks us who we are comfortable bullying.
it's okay if you feel like you don't have the writing chops to talk about how many religions are abusive and tacitly enable domestic violence. it's okay if you feel like you couldn't write a believable teenage bully. it's okay if you're just interested in "scary girl has scary powers."
but maybe, i don't know, choose a different fucking story?
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Every day I handle more money than I will ever make. Every day.
At the start of my employment, my boss showed me videos of people stealing, and we both had a chuckle about it. How silly they were! There was a camera overhead, and it’s not to watch the shoppers. See, we can’t actually stop shoplifters. They get away with it maybe nine out of ten times. But we, who are watched and tallied and witnessed? We are always caught.
At first it was hard to hold one hundred dollars bills. An amount I had never seen before. An amount that didn’t exist in my household. It’s normal now. Here is something that is not for me.
“What the hell, I’ll take another,” says the man, pondering our 200 dollar watches. What the hell. Total comes to 580 and not even a flinch in his face. I have been working for 11 hours today and made only 110 dollars. It will go to my rent. Today I work for free, it feels. When I get my check, I will have 35 dollars left for food and saving.
The six hundreds he hands me go into the cash register. For a moment, I imagine having money. Then I put it away, counting out his change.
I know for a fact we sell our products for double what they are worth. That I could be making commission. That they could hand me those 580 dollars and change my life and not even mark the difference in their checkbooks. He’s not the only sale they make today, but I am the reason they made it. He’s not the only one spending 600 dollars, but if I hadn’t spent two hours with him telling me about his life, he wouldn’t have spent any. I go home. I don’t own a watch.
I have watched and rewatched a video on how to make salmon four ways. My shopping list is always the same. Pasta. Rice. Tuna. If I can afford butter it was a good week. I dream of the world I will never walk in, where I can throw the best fish fillet in the cart with a shrug. I hold hundreds in my hand and look up at the camera. I put them under the cash drawer.
I go to work. I scrap together my savings. I eat my bowl of rice slowly. My manager takes a paid week off from work just for his birthday. He owns a yacht.
i wrote this while i was working at orlando’s walt disney world parks.
i was part of their college program. i moved to the state for it. they legally owned the building i was living in and still charged me rent. i ostensibly was being charged to work for them. it was a 2 bedroom apartment and they placed 6 adult women in it in forced triples.
as many as one in ten disney employees have experienced homelessness while working for the company. despite huge efforts to unionize, strike, or otherwise demand fair treatment; disney has refused to increase employee quality of life.
disney admits publicly that a good portion of their success is because the employees (“cast members”) are dedicated, passionate, and selfless. this is never reflected in pay. even “face” characters (ie those that are princesses etc) make barely above a minimum wage.
at the time that i worked there, i made $8.50 an hour. at one point i was asked to create a human shield around a bag because a bomb dog had alerted to it. for eight fucking dollars an hour.
i now work a very cushy office job. i have bought the salmon and cooked it all four ways.
i go to the store. i am nice to the person behind the counter. she looks up at the camera while she counts out my change. there is nothing fundamentally different about her and i.
Your dialogue is stiff because everyone is being too honest
Great dialogue can come from radical emotional honesty. But in most real conversations, people
dodge questions
answer indirectly
lie (badly)
change the subject
crack jokes to avoid serious answers
lie (convincingly)
say half of what they mean
tell the truth but get so anxious/angry/defensive others now think they're lying
If your dialogue feels unnatural, it might be because everyone is saying exactly what they think, or articulating their thoughts too well. Try letting characters hide things instead.
The best advice I ever got, and thusly, I think, the reason I always get compliments on my dialogue, is this:
Your two characters are having a conversation, but each one is having a different conversation. They should always reply to what they think the other person is saying, and they should always be wrong about their assumption.
Now, obviously, like any writing advice, this rule is meant to be broken. Any writing advice you are given is more like... a guideline.