Following the Rudy Knight tag after perusing it and finding that it's populated with
25% Theories going over the evidence
5% Art
5% Shitposts or memes
50% People calling Rudy Knighters Misogynistic, Sending hate content or ranting about how anyone who believes it is stupid and should be murdered because they decide to replace "obviously canon Dess Knight" (Which does have a shit load of evidence for it, can't deny that. And making Dess Not Have A Role in the story would still be misogyny, yes you are right there) with a crippled man. Which is odd because if Rudy Doesn't Do Anything in the narrative besides exist to die for some Noelle angst then like, isn't that the most basic form of written into the narrative ableism and reduces a father figure down to a one note plot point in a game where Toby expressly said he's focusing on fathers? If we look at this in a "is it {hate term}" way then it's a loose loose for where Toby can't not be one or the other. He's either misogynistic because Dess isn't all important or Ableist because Rudy isn't all important. Feels kinda stupid to suggest either option then
15% people trying to defend Rudy Knight theorists from being the target of the above mentioned vitriol. Hii this is me too.
Like boss what are we doing? Maybe I don't visit the louder parts of the Deltarune fandom for discourse or theories but why we acting like this?
Own thoughts down below.
Personally I see it as Rudy Knight because otherwise he's literally going to do nothing (Toby has already done Dead Father Figure Revives In A Dark World And Becomes A Mentor Figure. We don't need a rehashing of Susie and Gerson but with Rudy and Noelle. That plot beat has already been done and Susie would stop Noelle before it happens because she has experienced the near exact same thing), Carol making the plan (She's the one on the phone in 95% of all the light world calls because who else shows up after they say they'd be right there. I'm debatably on the hinge about whether it was her or Eram who interrupted Gaster in the goner maker sequence at the start because. If it was her then that explains the Red Heart stuff but gives the big plot part of "How the FUCK did you do that?". If it is Eram then that does give Kris a FOURTH fucking allegiance (Working with the Holiday Parents + Working with You + Working with Susie and Ralsei + Working with Eram) unless one of these is false. Dess is the lost girl and has SOMETHING going on similar to Gaster in Undertale (How he has the in code stuff relating to spoiling secrets, she has the in code stuff about not forgetting) + the Don't Forget Song (so literally the entire games premise and major influence on every dark world due to said leitmotif playing in every dark world) + a relation back to Undertale Asriel where she is the cause of everything yet not revealed till the final act.
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damnnn wtf i just watched a really fucking detailed video about how rudy could be the knight and it has basically almost no fucking holes in the logic... it explains why he keeps acting so WEIRD when you talk to him too...
damnn this is making me a little mad actually!!! i want dess to be the knight!!! she still could be if toby throws a curveball somehow. but...
oh man. its unfortunately looking like it might actually be rudy and him being the knight is Why He's SIck, and why he makes direct allusions in the dialogue to things related to the knight too...
all that knight x asriel art is gonna age like ass if its true 😭😭😭 as well as a huge chunk of dess related fanart
manifesting dess knight but tentatively and hesitantly placing rudy knight at #1 candidate after this cus what the hell else am i supposed to do
THE ACCOUINT THAT POSTED THIS THEORY VIDEO WAS FUCKING TERMINATED??? this was their ONLY FUCKING VIDEO???? DID PEOPLE MASS REPORT THE VIDEO OUT OF SALT OR SOMETHING OR DID THEY DO SOMETHING
Honestly stuff like this happens a lot, like. And idk if it's rude to reblog and yap about vent art so I'll delete this if asked.
But yeh this sort of thing happens a lot, the "tribalism" extreme out of theories and anything considered popular in the fandom (this counts for all fandoms, like I could make this post about Tessa Murder Drones fans but this post isn't about her, she's just another example). People group up because something is popular and has evidence behind it and then use that as an excuse to bandwagon and hate on other opportunities. And since the popular/major theories are popular and major, there's more people following them. Which means there's a higher amount of people who actually get annoying and rude over it because there's a higher base number of people there.
Plus the internet generally being what it is sometimes.
Really I think the best thing that could happen is most everyone learning to have transient ideas around a character. Like. I do believe Eram is the demon Kris and Catti summoned But I can see the appeal of other options like Horned Headband Eram or Dess Eram (it's come up once or twice and like, yeah why does this have some plausible evidence Toby what are you doing?)
Same for the knight, I've got stocks in Asriel Knight and Rudy Knight. (And while I do have negative opinions of very very specific takes on some I really don't go and harrass people over it, I'll just complain here or to a friend.)
Oh it also just comes down to being polite on the internet, that's definitely a part of it.
Sorry about the ramble btw, and hope yur day/night/next 24 hours gets better
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Honestly I really fw the idea of the narrative trying to replace Ralsei with Noelle in chapter 6, in the sense of, idk maybe Susie unconsciously doing so just for Ralsei to finally explode and scream that she doesn't want to be replaced. I think it would be an important part in her character arc, since she's been learning to see herself as an equal and that she deserves to have opinions and preferences. I think her blowing up and being able to let this negative feelings out would be very beneficial for her.
Plus, this could also be good for Kris, since they already feel like they are being left behind, and are very scared of Noelle and Susie's relationship obscuring theirs and Susie's friendship, so maybe seeing that Ralsei is going through something similar would make them feel less alone.
Also Ralsei would be saying the quiet part out loud for the fandom lol.
please read this even if you're not indian. especially if you're not indian.
you've seen the jokes. india is "dirty", indians are "everywhere", why don't they fix their own country. ok. let me tell you why, and what's happening right now while nobody's watching.
first, the history you skipped: britain ruled india for two centuries and drained it. economist utsa patnaik's research estimates around $45 trillion in today's money was taken. the india that got independence in 1947 was one of the poorest countries on earth. every "why is india like this" question starts there. you don't get to profit off a robbery and then mock the crime scene.
now, what's happening RIGHT NOW:
in may the question paper for NEET leaked. that's the national medical entrance exam. over 2.2 million students took it. cancelled. years of studying, families' savings poured into coaching, gone overnight because someone sold the paper. students died by suicide after. these were kids who wanted to be doctors.
and out of that came a protest movement. a gen z group called the cockroach janta party, started by a 30 year old named abhijeet dipke, got 22 million instagram followers within DAYS. they've been doing a sit-in at jantar mantar in delhi demanding education minister dharmendra pradhan resign.
and then there's sonam wangchuk. if you've watched 3 idiots, he's the real engineer the character was based on. built solar schools in ladakh. invented ice stupas so himalayan villages have water. spent his whole life on education. he's 59 and he's been on hunger strike for 17+ days now. reporters went to see him this week and he was too weak to talk. and the troll armies are calling him "anti national" and "foreign funded". a man starving himself for other people's children. that's the thing here, anyone who asks a question is suddenly a traitor.
it's not one incident, it's everywhere you look:
• infrastructure worth thousands of crores failing within months of the ribbon cutting. tunnels collapsing in regions where heavy rain is a guarantee, not a surprise.
• youth unemployment near 10% for ages 15 to 29, 13.6% in cities. in a country of 1.42 billion where more than half the population is young.
• only about the top 3% of indians earn above 10 lakh a year. meanwhile billionaire wealth keeps ballooning and the headlines celebrate it.
• manipur burned for over two years. an ethnic conflict, tens of thousands displaced, and the prime minister barely said the word manipur while it happened.
• journalists raided. critics' houses bulldozed. activists sitting in jail for years without trial under laws like UAPA. our press freedom ranking has cratered.
• even the petrol is a fight now, ethanol blending pushed through while drivers complain about their engines and get no straight answers.
and through all of it, the PM, who came to power on religious polarisation (americans, sound familiar?), travels abroad for photo ops and has not held one single open press conference in over a decade. not one.
what i'm asking:
if you're not indian: share this. our media mostly won't cover any of it because the big outlets are owned by the same billionaires the government serves. the only reason wangchuk's fast is getting any coverage is people refusing to look away.
if you ARE indian: speak up even if you're comfortable. especially if you're comfortable. join the protests. add to this, correct me, translate it. staying quiet is a choice when nothing in this post touches your life.
india is not "dirty". india was robbed, and it's being robbed again, from the inside this time. but it's also the country where a 59 year old will starve for strangers' kids and 22 million young people will rally behind a party literally named after cockroaches, because cockroaches survive everything.
Okay so five minutes of looking but I am VERY concerned. This sounds like a less abrasive/chiptune version of the No Controller Connected noise that plays when you start up the Mantle Game for the first time in chapter 3.
Me when it comes to connecting things to the Mantle minigame (It's so over dude why That jingle specifically.)
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What is ERAM in the Light World? Theory, because I haven't seen one yet.
Cloak / cape / blanket
Kris's red horned headband
Connected to the Knight, somehow. It's "mare" backwards. Knight-MARE
Random-access memory (RAM; /ræm/) *
Shadows
Something to do with a bat (wiffle/bese ball and winged mouse looking animal)
Other (reblog / comment)
Voting ended onJul 25
I need to know what is the most prominent interpretation. What is ERAM? What is ERAM in the Light World?
* The two widely used forms of modern RAM are static RAM (SRAM) and dynamic RAM (DRAM).
I believe in random-access memory:
In computing, magnetic-core memory is a form of random-access memory. It predominated for roughly 20 years between 1955 and 1975, and is often just called core memory, or, informally, core.
Bad Memory - Using it depletes one HP unless the protagonist's HP is three or lower, in which case it restores all HP.
You threw the Bad Memory away. But it came back. [Drop]
Core memory uses toroids (rings) of a hard magnetic material (usually a semi-hard ferrite). Each core stores one bit of information. At least two wires pass through each core, forming a two-dimensional X-Y-wired array of cores.
The torus is an example of a toroid, which is the surface of a doughnut. Doughnuts are an example of a solid torus created by rotating a disk, and are not toroids.
A standard way to visualize a solid torus is as a toroid, embedded in 3-space. However, it should be distinguished from a torus, a surface which has the same visual appearance: the torus is the two-dimensional space on the boundary of a toroid, while the solid torus includes also the compact interior space enclosed by the torus. A solid torus is a torus plus the region inside the torus, with a non-zero volume. Real-world objects that approximate a solid torus include O-rings, non-inflatable lifebuoys, ring doughnuts, and bagels.
Even after magnetic-core memory was replaced by semiconductor memory, main memory was often still referred to as "core", particularly by people used to the term who worked on older machines with magnetic-core memory. The process of copying the entire content of a computer's main memory to a disk file for further inspection by a system programmer is still called a "core dump".
cat is a shell command for writing the content of a file or input stream to standard output. The name is an abbreviation of catenate, a variant form of concatenate. Originally developed for Unix, it is available on many operating systems and shells today.
In addition to combining files, cat is commonly used to copy files and in particular to copy a file to the terminal monitor. Unless redirected, cat outputs file content on-screen.
Verb: catenate (third-person singular simple present catenates, present participle catenating, simple past and past participle catenated)
To connect things together, especially to form a chain.
In formal language theory and computer programming, concatenation is the operation of joining sequential objects, such as character strings, files, lists or pieces of audio or video, end-to-end. For example, the concatenation of "snow" and "ball" is "snowball". In certain formalizations of concatenation theory, also called string theory, string concatenation is a primitive notion.
The byte is a unit of digital information that most commonly consists of eight bits. Historically, the byte was the number of bits used to encode a single character of text in a computer and for this reason it is the smallest addressable unit of memory in many computer architectures.
The bit is the most basic unit of information in computing and digital communication. The name is a portmanteau of binary digit. The bit represents a logical state with one of two possible values. These values are most commonly represented as 1 and 0, but other representations such as true/false, yes/no, on/off, and +/− are also widely used.
... And this is how I connected ERAM to image Friend.
Personally I see the Mantleholder as a the "demon" Catti and Kris apparently summoned ages ago. More approximately a Darkner recreation of the emotions at the moment of the summoning like how the titans are just Fear, and other mix Lightner/Darkners seem to be appearing more often (Shadowmen (Darkners patterned off the shadows of a light world object), Sound Of Justice (Darkner patterned off of a dark world decoration rather then a physical light world object as their is no Gerson statues in the light world), Pink and Maddie (Lightner ghost possessing a Darkner), All of the Seven Flowers (Planters empowered by constant care and love) and such).
- it'd fit with how Toby Fox cited Omori (a game with a final boss which is yourself but evil (summarised horribly by me here but yeah)) as something that had already tread ground he wanted Deltarune too, and how the Mantleholder knows Kris intimately enough to actually ragebait them to a degree. (Aqua also exists and shares a lot of the Mantleholder's kris'isms and everyone has already yelled about how that is thematic and important)
- it'd explain why it has fire and cat connections (Fire through Kris and the dreemurs, Cat through Catti) through a "Darkners patterned after a particular event/trauma" sort of way. Which doesn't feel that far of a stretch for the story to reveal especially with how the Mantleholder said it'd be back/had work to do and how chapter 6 is probably going to not be as happy as the last ones. It was Chapter 3 that introduced Planter's with the hidden cactus so why couldn't it also be chapter 3 that secretly introduced some other types of weird Darkners. (The Knight comes to mind as another weird Lightner/Darkner situation)
- fits with the fact the boss's spites are called Shadow Mantle in the game AND in the fight the mantle itself has No Hitbox (eg you can walk through the mantle without taking damage) because it doesn't have a physical form. Instead holding form in whatever object it possesses, eg your video game character really was just scrapping with a peice of cloth in a life or death situation
- fits with why it is sometimes called Nightmare in the code and it's direct reference to one of the Zelda games with its "You cannot defeat us, let's rumble" line. With "Us" being used in a Mantleholder + Shadow Mantle it's possessing/holding way and as a parallel to the player. You know how a lot of people playing the game say "Us" when referring to Kris and the fun gang, same sort of thing there.
I can't entirely red string connect every thread about the Mantleholder there is to make this an irrefutable take (As other candidates like Asriel Mantleholder, Dess Mantleholder, Horned Headband Mantleholder, Prince alone in deepest Dark Mantleholder or Ice E Mantleholder all have their own bags of connections and reasonings), but still wanted to share at least one of my plausible takes on the Mantleholder considering its place in the story as an actual threat
So to actually answer this uhh. "I don't think the Mantleholder exists in the light world".
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Personally use Mantleholder more then Nightmare or Eram because Nightmare isn't used enough for people to know what I'm talking about and I don't wanna clarify everytime while Mantleholder gets it across and Eram is a name just waiting to be deconfirmed in game as soon as they return. Plus the mystery identity they have lends itself to a "title" sort of name that Mantleholder is (nightmare sort of fits that too because it's a name that describes a thing instead of a name that describes a person foremost.)
All three names have merits for their use lmao, but agreeing more MFs need to know about nightmare being a related name to this freak