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through water you say...............

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This dialogue dude!!!
some real sweet easy-to-miss dialogue on the team platforming part
here for random Susie Economist Mode
Kris is gonna write a callout post for Bratty on their bsky
I'd be willing to bet this is harkening back to people thinking Kris tried to poison and kill Bratty after she tricked them into running errands for her and she got sick from eating the cakes
or it's pre-harkening to people thinking Kris is about to poison someone other than themself with the seeds. and they're like what no that's toxic. who would do that

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God do you ever think about how Chapters 3 + 4 came out barely over a year ago. I feel like I've known Tenna and Gerson for at least 5
Kris is gonna write a callout post for Bratty on their bsky
all the times Kris made Susie blush in chapter 5 (if I missed any you have to tell me)

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this is the only person who understands deltarune
Soo...was Susie actually listening in on them here?
Because there's an entire walkable hallway to the left and she comes in from outside behind them instead. and seemingly only interrupts them when it seems like they're not going to say anything interesting/are saying something annoying.
Regarding that new Pink dialog that just got patched in… my immediate impression was to wonder if it's another Umineko reference. Or at least if it's Umineko-inspired, like Aqua's "Uuu~" verbal tic.
Because a pack of bloodthirsty hunting cats that don't give up unless they are bored sounds suspiciously like Bernkastel and her fellow cats.
Now, Bern's worn a number of hats over the years in other When They Cry series appearances. But in Umineko specifically, her and the cat horde's job is to "tear out the guts" of the mystery. Cruelly ripping characters apart, tauntingly using their traumas against them, all in service to dragging the other characters' deepest and darkest secrets out into the open for the sake of her master's voyeurism.
She's kind of like a Genocide-route Frisk/Chara equivalent, actually.
And Bern and the cats are also a meta-commentary on players who would ignore the "heart" of Umineko's mystery (i.e. ignoring character arcs and motivations) in favor of obsessive and absurd theorizing.
Will FRIEND(s) play a similar role, I wonder? Does the FRIEND horde represent the very kind of voracious theorizing of people who obsess over FRIEND's importance?
Last but not least, Bern is a character that mostly stays in the margins/shadows/"Secret Tea Party" chapters for the first half of Umineko's story before becoming much, much more important and villainous in the second half.
With this patch, did FRIEND theorists just succeed in creating the very villain they were hoping to find…?
so what was Kris doing out all night coming back in looking like they'd had their soul out for far too long
I'm telling you what if they talked to Susie. about like, anything
and then told her not to say anything or let on about it?
''someone dared us to hang out (positive)'' is a very kris and susie version of ''someone forced us to hang out (negative)''
after all how does Susie expect them to know without apparently telling them that the home Susie wanted to be walked to was Castle Town unless they walked her there the night before?

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so these flowers are called "spr_dw_susieflowers_0". would any flower nerds care to identify them so we can all google their symbolism and then apply our pre-biases to interpret that symbolism how we want
I'm pretty rusty on my flowers and some of these are pretty abstract like the second left and far right, so feel free to correct me on any of these or suggest your own! since chapter 5 is themed around japan, im gonna use hanakotoba as frame of reference for most of these. Lets start off with the pink one!
resembles the most like peonies but could also be pink carnations.
in china and japan they're seen as the king/queen of flowers, with the former as honor, good fortune, love, affection, feminine beauty, and the latter as righteous, noble spirit, courage, strength and bravery. though both interpretations are commonly shared by both.
-pink carnations often mean gratitude, love and admiration. though i found some sources listing them for fascination and distinction.
pretty abstract? but since the petals look round and susie ate a similar one in chaptor 4, I have to assume its edible? unless susie is immune to toxins, my best guess is either pansies or violets. both commonly used for culinary dishes.
-in hanakotoba, pansies mean thoughtfulness, kind love and consideration.
-violets for sincerity, humility, small happiness and honesty. also has ties to sapphic culture.
good ol buttercup, can't go wrong with buttercups.
from victorian floriography- sarcasm, ingratitude, childishness, riches and memories of childhood. pretty bad to consume, but apparently some species can be used in traditional medicines against fevers,rheumatism and rubefacient. that's not related to this,i just thought it was neat.
Edit: i just realized that this could be a japanese kerria which symbolizes prosperity, wealth, rejuvenation and renewal. also connected to wabi-sabi and poetry.
white lilies or sakura.
lilies- purity, innocence, dignity, and iconic symbol for girls love(yuri). commonly used at funerals to symbolize the departed's soul returning to innocence.
sakura -mono no aware, exceptional beauty, elegance, refinement, wabi-sabi, love, hope, vitality and rebirth.
white daffodils
Hanakotoba -vanity/self-love, respect, good fortune, and happiness
victorian floriography- evanescent happiness and deceitful hopes, chivalry, new beginnings, regard and unrequited love.
completely lost on what these could be, and im not gonna spend any more time researching what these can be.
as @d0llqueen points out, the last one could be snapdragons! which would fit because Asgore offers to give Susie one at the end
they also symbolize dragons which are symbolic of being cool
saw this scene on my second playthrough of ch5 and just about died.. so cute.. had to draw it..