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I haven't really been able to connect easy to my HoK. Like who he is. But I think I've finally figured out his character and the arc over oblivion
Breton. Raised by a single mom in the waterfront district of the IC (imagining it closer to the scale of Novigrad's riverside slums in W3). Spent a lot of time in kid's gangs but developed the opposite personality of a ne'er-do-well.
So like, very strong sense of justice and order, would be perfect as a guard with how they're characterized. But overzealous, to the point of vigilantism. Very 'ends justifies the means' kind of personality. Channels that into the FG, and a few instances of charitable or spite-driven theft.
Has a sense of humor, a juvenile and macabre one at that, but chokes it down. Despite/because of his impoverished background, he tends to pretend to a higher station than he had. So a lot of false dignity, an unlearned appreciation for good cheese and fine wine. Channels that into advancing the MQ ranks.
Imprisoned over committing a small crime to stop a bigger injustice and then fighting the guards over it. Grows very impressed with Martin in their travels together. Grows very attached, even, not even in a gay way just a weird kind of spiritual way.
So he's devastated at the end of the MQ. Joins the Arena to kind of commit suicide, but his battle experience is too much. The AF gives him a bit of push to be someone but he ends getting killed retraumatizing the HoK
At this point, kind of a miserable drunk, despite everything. Really thinks about good and evil and breaks, finding it absurd after this point. Maybe Mankar Camoran was right?
Attempting to reinvent the concept of justice leads him through the TG questline. But after some time ends up killing someone in a robbery gone wrong, and that point his personality is so broken he goes through the DB questline.
Finally after all that, SI, and is manteled by Sheogorath.
Sometimes headcanon means "hypothetical diegetic explanation of something unexplained" and sometimes it means "things that directly aren't canon but I don't really care" and I kinda just want to give TES's post hoc conlangs respectable grammars.
have you ever thought about how nice it is that people just die all at once in tes
like an enchanter assassin just has to make a blow and usually your black soul gem just fills. in our world unless people's brains are destroyed it usually takes like 15 minutes for them to actually die-die and most of the kinds of wounds you'd inflict in tes would be more like "several hours of bleeding out, in a coma if you're really lucky"
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Basically DB starts up as normal but if you attack Astrid someone knocks you out like Karliah.
You basically wake up in the Sanctuary with the implication that you'll be poisoned in your sleep for refusing what comes next. and you're supposed to take out (what Astrid has deemed) Rogue Brothers insulting Sithis. So you go out killing DB/MT agents in disguise or something for the radiant quests. You have to join the PO and 'spy' for them though.
There's two or three OCs in the DB, making it simpler. Maybe someone each to complement Veezara, Gabriella, and Festus, like an apprentice shadowscale, a bosmer skilled with the bow, an old high elf who was a death nurse in the great war.
Muiri happens, you can just kill Dufont, guy has it coming.
You proceed to the point of hearing the NM. You're the listener, but you don't like it. She doesn't care. You get the contract from Montierre.
At VV's wedding, take out the shadowscale apprentice, then just cause a commotion, no need to kill the guests.
You fake the PO guy's son's death, disappear the bosmer.
Get the gourmet mission from festus. Take out the poison making altmer, captain tells you to go back to the sanctuary and clean out any stragglers.
You can watch Astrid die then choose either to kill the Emperor and go on the 'db' timeline or abort and be in the 'dtdb' timeline. You just feel a little bit better about yourself. And Narfi lives, or something.
I know I've made a post like this before, but of course it is lost to the aether. These are some mods I like that expand the scope of history found in Skyrim, by adding nods to lore found in other Elder Scrolls games (and books.)
Skyrim: Expanded Lore
Ever feel like things mentioned in Skyrim's books or in conversation don't really feel reflected in the environment? Or like old lore was thrown out entirely? Check out these mods.
Skyrim Battle Aftermath
Brutal reminders that there is an active war happening that you can stumble upon.
Old Holds - Return of the Skalds
Adds skalds to act as bards to various taverns. NOTE: as of now, it needs a fix since it lacks the correct face meshes. You can get the one I made for it here.
Old Holds - Priests and Shrines of the Nordic Gods
Changes the names of some shrines to their Nordic names and gives the priests in some holds more rustic, Nord clothes.
The Old Ways - Nordic Religion
Changes some of the wilderness shrines to be devoted to Nordic gods with new decor.
The Great Town of Ivarstead
Adds beautiful custom architecture to Ivarstead, as well as a temple to Kyne.
The Great Village of Kynesgrove
Adds unique buildings, as well as an actual gorgeous grove, and new NPCs who are tense over loggers moving to town...
Capital Windhelm Expansion
While a large mod, this one adds a lot of Nord culture to the city, as well as some really neat, shirt quests inspired by older lore. It also restore the pit fighting arena that was cut from the original game
Skyrim Cut Content Restoration
Does what it says on the tin, similar to Cutting Room Floor but it's not done by arthmoor (a plus imo)
Falmeroon
Adds Falmer ruins to the far edges of Skyrim, where the 500 Companions may have missed them in their razing.
Torchpicking - hold torch for easier lockpicking
If you've ever been annoyed the piece of advice in the book Advances in Lockpicking didn't work.
Shrine to Kyne
By the author of Capital Windhelm Expansion, a simple shrine on a mountaintop.
Farkas the Bread Thief and Vilkas the Knitter
Adds a fun reference to lettera between the brothers.
Ghosts Of The Deathbells
The Herbalist's Guide to Skyrim mentions a myth that deathbells grow near the sites of unfortunate demises. This mod gives a very, very small chance of confirming that myth for your character.
Immersion and Lore Continuity - Additions and Tweaks
Several really cool optional modules that reference in-game lore or just make sense in context. From stuff like adding Nightingale graffiti to Dragonsreach prison, to memorializing the time a dragon damaged the 418th step on the path to High Hrothgar, and more.
Elaborating on NPCs
(or at least giving you a chance to meet some NPCs lol)
Runil's Past
Adds a small quest that deals with the priest of Falkreath's past with the Dominion.
Savos Aren's Regrets
Restores a cut conversation with Savos' ghost.
Revealing Rune
Lets you investigate Rune of the Thieves Guild's mysterious lineage.
Postpones Reluctant Steward from starting until you have completely two other Telvanni favor quests, giving you more time with Varona.
Markarth Murder Prevention
While it is technically possible to save Margret from being murdered when you first enter Markarth, it is very, very difficult since Weylin starts close to her. This mod simply moves his spawn point a little farther away to give you more time to react.
Finding Susanna Alive
Changes the trigger for Blood on the Ice to begin, so you're more likely to meet Susanna at least once.
Heartwood Mill - Save Leifnarr
Adds a nice way to save Leifnarr, who will return to his wife and son
Bury Sinderion
Allows you to bury the poor scholar.
Rest in Peace Katria
Similar to the above mod, but for Katria
The World is not Static
Riverwood Trader Is A Mess
The Riverwood Trader is immaculate at the beginning of the game, despite it having just been robbed and Lucan proclaiming it a mess. This mod makes it messy and you can help him clean it up or it will be cleaned at the end of the Golden Claw quest.
Kyne's Temple Consequences
Your choice to either revitalize Gildergreen or replace it now has consequences for Kyne's Temple in Whiterun. Line splicing is kinda rough on this one.
The Gildergreen Grows
If you choose to replace Gildergreen, the sapling will grow over the course of 4 months.
Environs series by Siberpunk
This series of mods focuses on changing locations as you either clear them or as certain quests progress.
Abandoned Abodes - after certain houses are left empty during Vanilla quests, this mod fills them with new NPCs
Riften Warehouse - renovates the warehouse into an East Empire Trading post after you drive out the skooma operation
The Shrines of Talos - makes the tension between Talos worshippers and their Thalmor persecutors more tangible
The Ruined Farmhouse - changes the farmhouse ruins near the Whiterun Watchtower into a home that gets destroyed in the dragon fight and is rebuilt over time
The Greenwood Shack - similar to the Ruined Farmhouse, but this one edits the shack around Falkreath
Hroggar's House - Eisa Blackthorn will fix up and move into Hroggar's old house after you encounter her
Whiterun Watcher Tower Doesn't Stay Broken - does what it says on the tin. Try it with Whiterun Watchtower Doesn't Start Broken to fully experience the Watchtower going through it.
Evolving Locations series by Suinier
Similar to Environs, lets places evolve over time.
Lucky Shack - Lucky Lorenz's shack is no longer collasped into the river from the start, and you have a change to meet the man himself alive and well... for a while at least.
Riverside Shack - the hunter's shack near the Eastmarch volcanic region now starts with the hunter living a simple life.
Cliffside Retreat - similar to Riverside Shack, with another unfortunate hunter's abode.
Lawbringer
lets you conquer bandit strongholds and then turn them over to the faction of your choice to prevent them from returning.
Tactical Valtheim
Has a function similar to Lawbringer, while also making Valtheim a more meaningful chokepoint. Lawbringer is made to work with it as well.
Enemy Edits
Cult of the World-Eater- Dragon Priests Buff Alduin
Gives you more of an incentive to eradicate the Dragon Priests from the world- the more alive when you go to fight Alduin, the stronger he is. Defeat the Dragon Cult can be used with it to give map markers to their locations or Bromjunaar Journal, for a non-quest version.
Cult of the True Dragonborn - Immersive Miraak Difficulty
Similar to the above, but for Miraak instead.
Ascension Of The Afflicted
Expands the Afflicted faction and adds unique details to the NPCs and areas
Talkative Dragons
They are sapient, after all. Recommend these edits: Audio Replacer and Less Talkative
Talkative Draugr
Draugr will now speak in Dovahzuul.
Falmer 'Dialogue Overhaul - Echolocation
Gives Falmer clicking noises, as if they are using echolocation to hone in on your location
Lines Expansion Series by jayserpa
Let's be real: you're probably already these or other jayserpa mods. They are all golden. This series swaps out generic lines for carefully spliced lines that fit the enemies you're fighting.
Falmer Servant Lines Expansion
Dremora Lines Expansion (with its requirement, Additional Dremora Faces)
Brawl Lines Expansion and Fixes
Vampire Lines Expansion
Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion
Civil War Lines Expansion
Bandit Lines Expansion
Lore Addons from Other Sources
Snow Whale Bones
Adds the remains of the enigmatic Snow Whales to lonesome locations across Skyrim.
Dark Anchor Ruins and Dolmens
Places 6 ruined dolmens around the map, matching their places from ESO. I recommend this plugin for no map markers
Oblivion Gates
Adds the ruins of Oblivion gates in 12 locations around the map (NONE located in cities and the models are nicely incorporated, not a repeat of GateGate!)
Skyshards
Adds ESO's skyshards around the map, for a fun treasure hunt. I recommend these tweaks plus ENB light addon.
Skyfall's Sleeping Hist Tree Overhaul
The Sleeping Tree has some in-game lore that suggests it sprouted from a seed that fell from the flying city of Umbra (from the novels), making it a sort-of otherworldly cousin to Hist trees. In Vanilla, it's a blue recolor of a dead tree.
This mod makes it unique and more hallowed. Alternatively, Fancy Sleeping Tree Replacer is even more alien if you prefer.
Dreams
This series of mod reintroduces dreams, simple message popups describing a dream after you wake up.
Framework
Idrinth's Base Dreams
Extra Dreams
Oblivion Vampire Dreams and Nightmares
The Dragonborn Dreams
TES III Skaal River Bridge SSE
Changes the Skaal River bridge to be something that looks a little more like the one seen in Morrowind's Bloodmoon expansion
Just Makes Sense
C.O.I.N. - Coins of Interesting Natures
Adds different ancient coins to various ruins in Skyrim (no more Septims in pre-Imperial Nord ruins!)
There are a few more mods in the same vein, but with modern currencies: Morrowind Mint, Elven Supremacy, Skyrim Silver, and Gibberish.
Volkihar - Silver Be Gone SE
For some dingdang reason, the fancy vamps were sipping outta silver cups. This mod fixes the oversight with your choice of bronze or iron.
Jorrvaskr - No More Silverware
Same as the above, but so the Circle doesn't get hives or something.
Nightcaller Temple Unique Shrine of Mara
A nice little touch that suggest Erandur patiently penitently carved the shrine to put in Nightcaller Temple.
Broken Tower Redoubt Unique Shrine of Dibella
A more rustic shrine to Dibella by the Forsworn living in the redoubt.
More Thalmor Dossiers
You now have a chance to find dossiers covering more characters (with patches for some mods) on Thalmor soldiers.
Daedric Shrines
Well, if folks are worshipping Aedra, you know some gotta be worshipping Daedra. These statues are stunning (though I do recommend this addon that gives Hircine his classic skull mask.)
Immersive Traitors Post
Makes Traitors Post slightly less busted and more believable that bandits would choose to camp out there.
Lavinia's Memorial
A small, immersive touch, adding a grave for the child lost to a werewolf attack in Falkreath.
Old Holds - Little Shrines of Talos
Adds shrines of Talos to homes of the people who might worship him.
Bust of Tiber Septim (plus extension)
Simply adds desktop sculpture of Tiber Septim to places it seems fitting.
Ivarstead Source
You've probably seen this video by now.
Silenced Prisoners (plus fix)
Ever wonder what's keeping mage prisoners from just starting to blast fireballs at their guards? This mod.
A Lovely Letter Alternate Routes
Lets you spill the beans to Camilla about Sven's and Fanedal's schemes.
Vampires Cast No Shadow 2
Makes it so vampires cast no shadows in the sunlight.
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On one end of the map there's a young drunk causing a scene, just crying or moaning some girl's name. Seems to live with an old lady, his gran, who asks you don't judge him too harshly. Also inquires if you know anything about necromancy, excuses it with saying she misses her husband, pay it no mind.
On the other end of the map there's a family, parents with 2 kids, conspicuously same family name. You can bring up the drunk but they act like they don't know him.
But at some point you catch the grandma visiting them, with gifts for the grandchildren.
You ask the gran about the drunk. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who can fend for himself long. She asks you not to talk about him in front of the kids.
Back in the drunk's town gran explains. He had a sister. They got along. But when he was like 8 and she was like 6 they roughhoused and she accidentally hit her head hard on a rock. Parents thought he murdered her outright, disowned him, grandma took him in. it's been 15~20 years-ish
He won't forgive himself. Blames himself.
Gran wants you to bring him to where she died, summon her ghost, make her talk to him. So you do.
He won't go in the city gate because his family. If the parents see him anyways they'll try to call the guards but nothing will come of it. Will be very vocally hostile, he'll just be ashamed and clam up.
You bring him to the site to his protestation. Summon the girl. Ghost berates him for throwing his life away and not living his for her. Sympathizes with but admonishes her parents. But he thinks he's just hallucinating because he's often pink-elephants drunk. "You're just a figment of my mind, I can't forgive myself" "I get why it was hard for them, but mom and dad can't hold a grudge for me either. why don't you find a woman? have a daughter, name her after me, make her happy if you need redemption". "i can't marry anyone because girls just remind me of how i failed you" "gross, brother" "you're not real why am i even saying anything" etc.
"I see her too" you say and because TES he responds with a racialized insinuation you're just as drunk as he is or high on skooma. The conversation goes like that for a bit. She asks you to take the drunk back to gran.
The gran pays you for trying but nothing really comes of anything. Optionally you can tell off the parents which just lowers their disposition. The moral? there is none.
Hmmm, I think either could be interesting. I kind of like the idea of "full" Dragonborns only, since it would highlight others as opposed to a bunch of Septims. Would be awesome to see Dragonborns who had been lost to history
The idea of there being "full" Dragonborn as opposed to "non full" ones is a fan invention actually. Alessia did not have the power to absorb dragon souls because she was not born Dragonborn, she made herself one - the post linked in UESP is one by MK where he says her power was basically her own drive to achieve freedom, an impossible thing, and on her deathbed make covenant with the Dragon God.
I actually made a post about the whole Dragonborn thing in the past, and its heredity. Link here.
Anyway uh. The avatar thing is already canon, technically. The Amulet of Kings was said to hold the Oversoul of every Emperor who has previously worn it, so the Emperors traditionally would receive counsel from the previous Dragonborn rulers by communing with the Amulet. Unfortunately this is not a thing innate to the Dragonborn and Martin destroyed it so, blame the guy.
Makes sense about about the “full” Dragonborn thing being a fan invention. I know the Amulet used to serve as that to speak with the former Dragonborn Emperors but I that isn’t quite the same to me as talking to any previous Dragonborn, including the Dragonborn Heroes. The Greybeards warn of the downfall of those before the Last Dragonborn do to the voice tempting them to seek power.
Speaking to those people would be much more interesting in my opinion and actually fit within Skyrim
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