I still want to make a post about my issues with cognitive behavioral therapy but I never have the brainspace to organize those thoughts.
Ok y'know what if I don't just do it I'm never gonna do it. So here's a very badly organized post about why I kinda hate CBT and why I specifically hate it being used for trauma.
The way it gets used, at its barest bones, is way too close to just being clinical gaslighting.
You have problems? Your problems are actually not the problem, the way you think is. Translated: You can't trust your own perceptions and your distress is an overreaction.
It also just functions on the belief that you can out-think pretty much any problem. And that your problems are stemming from your perceptions and reactions rather than any external force that may be out of your control.
And I hate that! A lot! Many problems are fundamentally not out-thinkable. CBT fails to take into account the gravity of things like severe, repeated, and ongoing trauma, and current factors impacting people's lives.
Are there situations where CBT actually has a place in treatment? Yeah! Sure! But it just absolutely doesn't fucking work well for a lot of people with trauma or severe mental illness, yet therapists keep trying to use it that way.
Just kinda expanding on this with some thoughts. A lot of therapists know CBT (and similar therapies) better than anything else. And consequently, they can struggle sometimes with handling situations that don’t fit well with a CBT paradigm.
I think most folks with substantial trauma can still benefit from learning some of the cognitive skills that CBT offers (who with anxiety doesn’t fall into the mind reading trap sometimes?). And so there can still be some benefit from it.
But the problem is when therapists keep pushing this without actually understanding the circumstances of a client’s life, and when clients don’t realize they’re allowed to disagree with their therapist, and they’re allowed to push back if they don’t believe the therapist is getting it.
And it WON’T solve all the problems. It won’t change the reactions the way that trauma-focused therapy can
Yeah, hard agree - i think the power dynamic that exists in these scenarios is the single most destructive force in this process. I think it’s also very important to note that, a patient without suicidal ideation who is seeing a weekly therapist and isn’t being gaslit at home has a very different amount of power or ability to speak up than say, somebody who has been cut off from their normal life and supports and is in a residential program or hospital and/or who does not have any information (or ability) to clarify and decide whether their medical experiences and doctor patient relationships are healthy or safe.
It does not always happen, but i think the persistence of common scenarios where clinicians decide to take the definition of ‘normal’ and ‘safe’ away from the patient and give them a different, more official definition, while telling them what their boundaries should be and framing their discomfort as something to be overcome, are the most dangerous scenarios for the use of cbt and i think cbt and other things like dbt would be a lot less harmful if this power dynamic did not sometimes accompany its use.
That was long and not relevant to everybody’s experiences, but i feel like it’s maybe one of the things that impacts how a single treatment could be either helpful, sorta helpful, mildly harmful or extremely harmful for different people and situations.
also it’s extremely common for neurodivergent people to be put through it. i only have experience with the autism/adhd side of it, so i don’t fully understand all the harm it does and this definitely applies to more than just adhd and autism.
but one of the things my experience with cbt tried to instill in me was distraction. distracting myself from what distressed me. the most common way is the five senses method. which is extremely harmful for me for Sensory Reasons but that isn’t the point.
but something abt autism is that it makes it hard to identify emotions. so what i took from this advice wasn’t “distract yourself from things you can’t change and put your energy towards something positive” but literally just. repressing all my emotions.
cbt never takes into account that there could be other solutions to your issues or other sources. it teaches you that everything you feel is on you and you alone and that only you can change it through the power of positive thinking. when you’re living in a world that is designed as an antithesis to you, this does nothing but push force your to swallow what you’re given. cbt isn’t a practice for patients; it’s a practice for doctors. after all, it’s much easier to say your patient is doing something wrong than it is to look for a solution.
The good news here is that the 5-4-3-2-1 aka five senses grounding technique isn't CBT! It's really just a coping tool rather than a type of therapy, but it fits better with DBT, having to do with emotional regulation in the moment. And it does help a fair amount of people when dealing with an acute stressor or anxiety attack.
I hadn't even thought of all the additional issues with CBT from an autism/ADHD lens because my focus is usually more the trauma stuff, but I can definitely see where there would be issues. Because if I've ever seen a demographic who's triggered by feeling invalidated and unheard... including myself... this was one of my issues with my last therapist trying to CBT me. Even when I argued with her that it wasn't working and was not helpful for my issue.
























