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Today I have a special treat: an English translation of an academic article about this history and positioning of the term âWTF/quoiromantic

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Story of The Split is a zine about ace community history and a breakdown in community memory that has kept many people in the dark about the
Happy Ace Week! Here is a zine with some community history :)
So, I donât make it a secret that I have for a long time been interested in how asexuality is positioned relative to and intertwined with ot
Luckily, last year I got my hands on ç”ć©ăźèȘç±âăæć°ç”ć©ăăăèăă (Marriage Freedom: Essays Inspired by Minimizing Marriage), an anthology of chapters responding to or inspired by Elizabeth Brakeâs work, and [...] I would like to share with you some of what Dr. Kubota has to say so that one can easily understand the constituent parts that make up amatonormativity.
You know, when this book first arrived in the mail, I did a quick little flip-through to get an idea of the structure of the book and what have you, and to see that all of the overly detailed tables were in the last chapter?? Absolute torment.
But I forced myself to read the chapters in order (not necessarily required for this book, after chapter 1), and it did keep me on track as I pushed through the difficult concepts (Derrida đ) to get to that promised reward... of delicious, delicious theoretical models in delectable chart format.
A very happy ace week indeed đ
So I just watched Rowan Ellis' latest video, which is about "The Discourse," and I don't really know how to feel about it.
By which I mean, I'm glad that she and several of these people she interviewed want to "get past 101 topics" and discuss how we actually organize for our issues. Since those people have large platforms, maybe they can actually bend the discourse in that direction.
But like, I personally am so Tired. I actually wound down the scholarship nonprofit this year because it had become apparent to me that I was not going to be capable of getting it off the ground, and that I needed to rethink the whole thing from square one. As is always the case with fighting the Sunk Cost Fallacy, though, it was a pretty bitter pill to swallow how little I can do. How hard it was fighting with people to try and get them to look to what we could build for the future and meeting with little to no success.
But like, maybe this is another 2009 moment, you know? One I'll look back on in hindsight like, "ah, finally the community was ready, and in 2024 things started to change." But if that's the case, if all of these loud voices are saying "it's time to go," why do I feel so absolutely terrible about it? Like, heart-racing-from-dread bad about it?
I want to be happy that there is a mostly accurate video that is likely to get tons of views that advocates for ambiguity and expansiveness and intersectionality and more banana bread. But you know, I see one of the main contributing factors to The Discourse as disconnection from community memory; Rowan's video doesn't particularly inspire me that it's not doing the same thing. And maybe that's better! Or maybe :/ it's not :/
âAll the categories of transgender find a common ground in that they each break one or more of the rules of gender: what we have in common is that we are gender outlaws, every one of us. To attempt to divide us into rigid categories [âŠ] is like trying to apply the laws of solids to the state of fluids: itâs our fluidity that keeps us in touch with each other. Itâs our fluidity and the principles that attend that constant state of flux that could create an innovative and inclusive transgender community.â
- Kate Bornstein

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i actually would be incredibly interested in reading even just a list of everything that was wrong with 'a quick and easy guide'
Oh, boy, I'm not even sure I could make a list of everything that was wrong with it... but you know I will try! :3
Factual Errors
The Demi flags on the cover have the wrong size stripes. Yes, you read right: this book is so bad, even the cover is wrong
They define the "asexual spectrum" to mean sex-averse/indifferent/favorable???
And then they call sex-favorable "sex-charmed"?????? And also "sex-enthused"
And they equate being gray-a to being sex favorable in some way, which is. Certainly a take.
They make a chart of "the Split Attraction Model" (already problematic) that's the first cartesian quadrant with an x-axis labeled "Romance" and a y-axis labeled "Sexual" and then put the tiniest, tiniest little circle around (0,0) to say that's where aroaces are.
There's a weird Pride and Prejudice metaphor that I think is incorrect to the source material, but I'm not an Austen expert and I see inexplicable P&P references more often than one would imagine, so we can let this one slide....
Bad Writing/Praxis
They say: "If you're not asexual, you're allosexual, be you gay, straight, or anywhere on the spectrum." Uhhhhh last I checked, people on the asexual spectrum are asexual. Or, this could just be really poorly written. They come back later to say that there are "just ace people and allo people" though.
They say that asexuality means not experiencing sexual attraction and nothing elseâwhich is at odds with the way most community members actually define it
They also clumsily hit the talking point about "being ace doesn't stop me from from wanting to have a loving relationship or a family"
In fact, they hit a lot of cliché talking points, including some that have been criticized, but I guess... that's not... a crime....
There's an exploration of asexual "stereotypes" that I found to be confusing and incomplete
They call sex a "basic human need" which... is not helping
There's a conversation about whether or not aces are welcome in "LGBTQIA+" spaces, which didn't sit right with me, but also.... consult the acronym you have used.........
They call the OED "English's Boss," which I take exception to because no dictionary is the boss of English!!
Overall lack of nuance and accepts normative framing instead of challenging it.
Also, this book is only 72 pages long, and also a comic. So if you do the math, I was hitting on something that made me upset on nearly every page. Like, I don't deny I can be nit-picky and also a crab, but please believe me this book was egregiously misinformed. I hope this is helpful to you, or at least amusing đđ Thank you for the ask!
Koisenu Futari by Erika YoshidaNHK Publishing Website a unique ânot-Loveâ Comedy that everyone living in this society can smile about âI don
I would say I'm showing up 15 minutes late with Starbucks, but I don't drink Starbucks....
An abbreviated list of ace-related books I never wrote anything about:
The Invisible Orientation: Literally what would I say about it?
Refusing Compulsory Sexuality: I don't think my opinion is helpful to anyone, even me
Yuri to Koe to Kaze Matoi 4, Koi no 1% 3, Watashi wa Kabe ni Naritai (I want to be the wall) 3, Onna Tomodachi to Kekkon shite mita 3-4: all gave me mixed feelings, but not enough to change my opinion on the series as a whole
Arasa dakedo Hatsukoi desu 1: Still haven't formulated an opinion, or even decided to keep reading
The ABCs of LGBT+: maybe this will merit a mention in passing one day.... but not today
Quirkyalone manifesto: I feel old enough already without bringing this into the conversation
All the Single Ladies: Not anywhere close to as ace as I was hoping it would be
Various books on "love" I read for research purposes: maybe I will reference them one day, but I haven't found one yet that actually really speaks to me on its own.
Collections of academic articles on ace topics: *snore*
Gender Queer and/or other memoirs on gender: Just kind of feels outside my wheelhouse, you know?
Let's Talk about Love: I don't think I'm cut out for reviewing this genre in a fair way, and the best thing I can do is recognize that before I write another review like the one I did for Upside Down
How to be Ace: It would be a really mixed review that wouldn't make anybody happy
Every Heart a Doorway: I really don't have anything nice to say about this one
A Quick & Easy Guide to Asexuality: So unforgivably factually wrong I wrote to the library to get them to pull it from the shelves.
Koisenu Futari by Erika YoshidaNHK Publishing Website a unique ânot-Loveâ Comedy that everyone living in this society can smile about âI don
I would say I'm showing up 15 minutes late with Starbucks, but I don't drink Starbucks....
Itâs that time of year again â we are now recruiting participants for the Ace Community Survey! The Ace Community Survey is run by the Ace C
At the time, I didnât really feel like I could comment in an informed manner on the argument. And thereâs two solutions to that: keep your p
I mean, I could summarize it, but why do that when a meme would do?

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Lilies and Voices Born Upon the Wind/çŸćăšćٰăšéąšçșă (Yuri to Koe to Kazematoi) has gotten an official English-language release! Volume 1 is out now and Volume 2 is scheduled to be released at the end of February.
This is a coming-of-age manga that somehow also manages to be a light-hearted tale of a world where everyone is ace and thatâs how we like it. I do have a couple of reservations about it, but just, donât think about it too seriously and enjoy the way everything is way too dramatic all the time for no reason in a subversion of typical romantic tropes, and you will enjoy it (^^)
[You can read my full review of it here.]
Yuri to Koe to Kazematoi has gotten an official English-language release as âLilies and Voices Born Upon the Windâ! Volume 1 is out now and Volume 2 is scheduled to be released at the end of February.
This is a coming-of-age manga that somehow also manages to be a light-hearted tale of a world where everyone is ace and thatâs how we like it. I do have a couple of reservations about it, but just, donât think about it too seriously and enjoy the way everything is way too dramatic all the time for no reason in a subversion of typical romantic tropes, and you will enjoy it (^^)
[You can read my full review of it here.]
In all of the talk on QPRs over the years, Iâve run across some occasional disagreement about whether or not âqueerplatonicâ as a term has room for ambiguity â with both impâŠ
I donât know how to do this without it coming off as gatekeep-y, so I mostly try to keep my mouth shut, but this writing us out of our own history really needs to stop. Coy makes a really solid argument here, but Iâd also like to underline the wider implications. I.e., to be crystal clear: if you are perpetuating the narrative of âqueerplatonicâ as a solely aro term, you are echoing lateral aggression against aces. Iâm not saying thatâs your intent or that you are even aware that thatâs whatâs happening; a lot of the people who say it are ace themselves. But, ironically, a misapprehension of identity is kind of at the core of the problem here.
I have heard the defense of this narrative so many times that, in fact, aro people were involved, and so therefore itâs not inaccurate to say itâs an âaro word.â The argument continues that what âqueerplatonicâ is talking about has to do with a question of romantic-or-not, and so thatâs whatâs important; many people explicitly define QPRs as maybe-sexual but definitely not romantic. And not to be operatic about it, but: you fools!!! Do you not see that this is exactly why the ace context is important??? Those early conversations didnât bother to mention sex because we all assumed there would be no sex. It was baked into the premise from the beginning. Donât you see????
To reiterate: Iâm not saying that maybe-sexual-but-not-romantic relationships are not âqueerplatonic.â This word is yours to use as you see fit, and I know Iâm not speaking out of turn here because Kaz and Sci have been dragged out here over and over to say as much. But by the same token, you canât define us out of our own word. Especially because, in case you missed it in the last sentence, we can hear you. When I first saw this post and discovered that OP had turned off most of the ways to contact them privately, I thought maybe I had no choice but to reblog it. Thatâs what people normally do to disagree with something, right? But I read it again from the top and my heart sunk in my chest and all I could think was, âI canât reblog this knowing that it will put this pus in front of my friendsâ faces.â I hope that they donât interact with this post. I hope that they miss it completely and they keep posting about [redacted] and their new [redacted] and it never falls before their eyeballs.
In some ways, this is a small-potatoes kind of problem, because, in sober analysis, we are being erased left and right by published authors and asexual studies PhDs, and the entire orientationânay, the entire queer communityâis under attack from institutional forces. All of those things are far more consequential than a drip-drip-drip of random people on tumblr with bad takes. But at the same time when the people who are supposed to be members of our community trample over us, it makes all those other things feel hopeless.
Listen, I try not to talk about this for a lot of reasons (privacy, splash damage, itâs a logical fallacy, etc.), but this concept is an integral, foundational part to how I came to accept myself, how I got on the path to where I am today. I remember vividly (viscerally) what I was doing as we closed out 2010 and welcomed 2011, and it was unfortunately the kind of experience that the intervening 12 years has not really faded or dimmed. I knowâhave witnessedâthat there are other people going through a similar struggle today in 2023. Maybe having access to these concepts wouldnât help them like it did me, but I am unwilling let the possibility be closed to them without putting up a fight. They are important to me; Kaz and Sci and the people from back then are important to me; all the people I have met in between are important to me; you are important to me. âQueerplatonicâ means possibility, it means freedom, and they and I and you deserve that freedom.Â
(alas, here I am interactingâŠ)
Sometimes I wonder if I make too big of a deal of the queerplatonic historical revisionism because itâs personal, you know? Because when people breezily go âoh but it was defined by aro peopleâ, that is literally me you are erasing from the conversation, me whose identity you are redefining to suit your historical narrative. But, I then think, just because this is personally offensive to me doesnât necessarily mean itâs, like, that important in the grand scheme of things? And I get the impression this is what is off-putting for some people when we criticise it - it seems like such a small detail, who cares where the term came from if youâre not one of the ones who was there?
But but but, it feels like almost all the time you see someone insisting on an aro origin to the term you also see this sort of narrowing, this sort of gatekeeping. And thatâs. Hugely frustrating? Because as you say, the whole point of it was the grey areas, the canât-tells, the fact that I felt like society demanded I put my relationships into this neat little boxes and I was going âuhhh for one no but for another these boxes, they donât actually make any sense to me.â
If you go âbut nope, I want queerplatonic to mean strictly nonromanticâ, then you are espousing a narrow definition that makes the term useless for me, who got so many headaches from trying to figure out whether the relationships they wanted were romantic or nonromantic that I just went âscrew it, I refuse to use this system of categorization anymore, wtf/quoiromantic is where itâs at.â Given that a) that confusion was the entire reason for and subject of the conversation in the first place, and b) you would not even have the word queerplatonic if not for that conversation⊠trying to take it away from me like that is, frankly, rude.
And the concept still resonates, you know? I semifrequently get people commenting on the post on which the word was introduced, even now 12 years later, thanking me and telling me how important it was to them and how glad they are we came up for it. Every time I do, I feel like it was worth it, the whole thing. People need this, still. Letâs not try to force any of them out because we donât agree with exactly how.
#queerplatonic is so important and dear to me#im kind of at a crossroads in my life right now#and now more than ever if i didnt have the history behind this word i would be going insane#its a word that makes me feel HUMANÂ
I want to boost both Kaz and QUâs comments here because this really is important to many of us. My dearest aim is not to nit-pick at people but to build a strong, united community, and I donât necessarily like that it has to come out in posts like this, but negativity is vital to construction too.
In all of the talk on QPRs over the years, Iâve run across some occasional disagreement about whether or not âqueerplatonicâ as a term has room for ambiguity â with both impâŠ
I donât know how to do this without it coming off as gatekeep-y, so I mostly try to keep my mouth shut, but this writing us out of our own history really needs to stop. Coy makes a really solid argument here, but Iâd also like to underline the wider implications. I.e., to be crystal clear: if you are perpetuating the narrative of âqueerplatonicâ as a solely aro term, you are echoing lateral aggression against aces. Iâm not saying thatâs your intent or that you are even aware that thatâs whatâs happening; a lot of the people who say it are ace themselves. But, ironically, a misapprehension of identity is kind of at the core of the problem here.
I have heard the defense of this narrative so many times that, in fact, aro people were involved, and so therefore itâs not inaccurate to say itâs an âaro word.â The argument continues that what âqueerplatonicâ is talking about has to do with a question of romantic-or-not, and so thatâs whatâs important; many people explicitly define QPRs as maybe-sexual but definitely not romantic. And not to be operatic about it, but: you fools!!! Do you not see that this is exactly why the ace context is important??? Those early conversations didnât bother to mention sex because we all assumed there would be no sex. It was baked into the premise from the beginning. Donât you see????
To reiterate: Iâm not saying that maybe-sexual-but-not-romantic relationships are not âqueerplatonic.â This word is yours to use as you see fit, and I know Iâm not speaking out of turn here because Kaz and Sci have been dragged out here over and over to say as much. But by the same token, you canât define us out of our own word. Especially because, in case you missed it in the last sentence, we can hear you. When I first saw this post and discovered that OP had turned off most of the ways to contact them privately, I thought maybe I had no choice but to reblog it. Thatâs what people normally do to disagree with something, right? But I read it again from the top and my heart sunk in my chest and all I could think was, âI canât reblog this knowing that it will put this pus in front of my friendsâ faces.â I hope that they donât interact with this post. I hope that they miss it completely and they keep posting about [redacted] and their new [redacted] and it never falls before their eyeballs.
In some ways, this is a small-potatoes kind of problem, because, in sober analysis, we are being erased left and right by published authors and asexual studies PhDs, and the entire orientation--nay, the entire queer community--is under attack from institutional forces. All of those things are far more consequential than a drip-drip-drip of random people on tumblr with bad takes. But at the same time when the people who are supposed to be members of our community trample over us, it makes all those other things feel hopeless.
Listen, I try not to talk about this for a lot of reasons (privacy, splash damage, itâs a logical fallacy, etc.), but this concept is an integral, foundational part to how I came to accept myself, how I got on the path to where I am today. I remember vividly (viscerally) what I was doing as we closed out 2010 and welcomed 2011, and it was unfortunately the kind of experience that the intervening 12 years has not really faded or dimmed. I know--have witnessed--that there are other people going through a similar struggle today in 2023. Maybe having access to these concepts wouldnât help them like it did me, but I am unwilling let the possibility be closed to them without putting up a fight. They are important to me; Kaz and Sci and the people from back then are important to me; all the people I have met in between are important to me; you are important to me. âQueerplatonicâ means possibility, it means freedom, and they and I and you deserve that freedom.Â

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I had a little debate with myself about whether to gender the types of Older Aces in my most recent post because when youâre working with such a small sample size, any âpatternsâ are very possibly just coincidence. Ultimately I decided to do it, though, because I think it was purposeful on the part of the authors to make at least the two men into men and not women. Part of this is, I think, the masculine coding of activities of analysis and categorization at work; part of it is that it hits different when a female character explicitly gives up on society the way Satoru and Mitsuru do; but I donât think thatâs the whole story.
One of the claims in George Normanâs thesis[1] that I have been trying to give due consideration to instead of dismissing out of hand is that, according to him, it is easier for men to âget aheadâ in ace circles, an advantage he feels he has enjoyed himself. The thing that I find puzzling about this is not the assertion itself, but the caveat that it is within communities itâs true. As I say, I neither buy âeasierâ assertions, nor think theyâre particular productive, but one advantage I do perceive ace men as having is that their declarations of identity are more readily believed and taken more seriously.[2] I canât help but think that Satoru and Mitsuru were put in their positions as informal âprofessors of acenessâ to speak to the outsider audience. The optics of that does make me uncomfortable, especially because their opportunities to info dump to the audience are often done under the in-universe guise of teaching their Young Ace women protags.
Add to that that the only example I can think of a canon ace man not being put in a romantic relationship causes his spurned suitor to turn in a vengeful snake monster... and then get put into a romantic relationship... and I kind of wonder about the kind of burden weâre putting on these fictional gentlemen and if itâs helpful or affirming at all to real ones.[3]
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[1] To remind: I have a lot of problems with it and I think linking it without some criticism to that effect would be irresponsible, which criticism does not really belong in one of these short posts. I link it in the multidirectional memory post from July if you really must.
[2] I think any âeasierâ narrative we might build off this immediately falls apart, since being taken seriously is the precondition for attracting trouble.
[3] đ
âItâs the common lament of the ace to be infantilized, viewed as static, standing still, trapped in amber. Those close to us will outgrow us and leave us behind. Weâll end up alone because we will never be recognized as adults by society. [âŠ] When people look at me, they donât see someone who has years of work and even managerial experience, who is financially stable and owns a home. They donât see someone who has a partnership and two failed marriage proposals in their past and has outgrown them rather than been outgrown. They donât see someone who has gray in their hair⊠although to be fair to them, itâs not usually visible.â
â Growing Up, Growing Into, Growing Out, Outgrowing
This article and another one you wrote on loving suits is prompting me to think about my own relationship with my presentation.
âbecause to be asexual is to be illegibleâ
I swear, historical clothing is drag for aces. Like thereâs playfulness, exaggerated gender presentation, and gender ambiguity but in a way thatâs so out of sync with current aesthetic preferences itâs deeply unsexy to onlookers. Especially we do our hair in historical ways. It feels like we make the illegibility of asexuality visible. Like âyes, Iâm this unsexy on purpose and now you, the onlooker, have to cope with your bafflement.â
I donât do much costuming now, but so much of my interest in it was to explore the arbitrariness of attraction before I had the words to describe my orientation.
This is a really interesting point! Iâm also drawn to historical fashions, usually out of a desire to be The Most Extra, to create an ĂŠsthetic rather than sensual-based presentation, and to connect that with the purposeful exaggeration and playfulness of drag is good food for thought.