I watched a video about madness arcs in media, and I tried to relate it to Thorin. But honestly? Madness doesn't fit in the slightest. He was sick. That's all I can gather from it. He was sick and wild. Yes, he tried to fight it, tried to fight what he couldnt control. But to me its more like when you have a cold and youre trying not to fall asleep. Your body completely takes over, entirely base instinct; and while your mind is screaming at you to get up, just move, you can barely lift your arm, until the exhaustion eventually wins and everything goes dark, and you dont know any more. THATS WHAT I IMAGINE IT TO BE LIKE! In his dragon sickness there were moments of consciousness where he was desperately fighting against that base instinct, that fog, but there would be a trigger and everything would go dark again as the sickness took over.
Another thing I'd like to highlight: the pressure Bilbo must have felt, knowing that he was the only one Thorin trusted. Throughout the third movie, Bilbo is the only one who sees Thorin in his moments of clarity- actually, he's also the only one who can bring it out of him in the first place. That is such an insane amount of responsibility. I want to further highlight the fact that Bilbo didn't think he could save Thorin from his gold sickness, he thought he could save him from his own actions. From personal experience, I need you fucks to understand just how accurate that perspective is. It's not some "I can fix him" bullshit. He completely lost hope for that. But he knew that Thorin's actions would be his doom, so he obliterated his plan- or at least, he tried. Something that comes with building your maturity is realizing that you cannot change a persons mindset. That's something they have to do on their own. But what you can do, is ruin their plans for self destruction. 9 times out of 10, it leads to a different form of destruction instead. Cue further maturity after that.
I know a lot of people will bash on the movies, and how they're nothing like the books. But I want to remind you that honestly, they did good with what they had. The character arcs were realistic, and it was really cool to see these characters come to life.
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