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Visualization of Dan's timeline until his creation.
I'm not sure how to tag this for today. First, this is a timeline, so I think it counts for all three prompts ( past, present, future). Second, it depends on the perspective whether it counts for the past or the future calender. If we look it from Dan's perspective it would be the past. If we look it from Danny's perspective it would be a potential future.
This is more a rough concept render than anything more polished and this is also one of my the bigger blender projects ( in terms of data size). I also wanted to add 2 more scenes but my computer can't handle that many objects in a blend file. That's why I reduced it to 4 key scenes.
Additionally I wanted to animated it like this at first:
But as you can see the scenes are too small so I decided to render it like above.
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What she really means: I don’t mind people disliking a ship for their own reason but the anti-shipping movement is driven by hate and bandwagon bullying to police what people are “allowed” to enjoy. They use fundamentally abusive and manipulative tactics on real people in the name of protecting survivors from speculative things in fiction. Antis want to act morally superior over ship wars and claim that to ship something problematic you must be a survivor. By doing this antis force survivors who may be uncomfortable with coming out with their status to out themselves and then hold them to impossible standards. Except when it does come to survivors who ship anti-deemed problematic things we are attacked, harassed, and then pushed under the bus anyway. Antis trivialize terms such as abuse, rape, and pedophilia by using them so often and out of place against a group made up of many survivors and minors– the people they claim to be protecting. They have bullied and suicide baited artists and other content creators they dislike in the name of “policing the bad ships uwu.” All antis are at fault for this, even if an anti claims not to send hate themselves they are still influencing this bad behavior because they are part of this hate group. The entire anti-shipper movement is a toxic cesspool that makes me feel sick.
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Dream Theory (or my attempt at coming to terms with MHA ending).
I’ve seen people kind of talk about the last few chapters not being real. And I know that this likely isn’t the case, but god damn, I need something to latch onto.
Part One: the basis for the theory
This Twitter user (@zetanellk) posted a since deleted Jump interview where one of the (main) editors of the publication say that they (Jump as a whole) can’t force Hori to stay.
(image from the aforementioned twitter user above).
Now, I wanted to delve deeper into this in several different ways.
While, I can’t find anything on Yuta Momiyama (the new Jump head). He does seem more keen on ushering in a new era of manga - understandable but could be an indication that Hori was rushed in some way.
And I can’t put an exact date on when Yuta Momiyama took over from the previous person, but it seems to be around mid-June. We got the announcement that MHA was ending around the end of June.
In the interview they talk about how long they’ve been extending it, and if I’m not misunderstanding it sounds like they gave him a two year cap to get everything done. Or maybe Hori just felt like two years was enough.
Overall, without factoring in Hori’s health or if he’s burned out, the basis of this theory is that he was either rushed, censored, or just wanted to leave Jump for one reason or another. And by rushing the end of his story and leaving it wide open, it means he can go back to it later (and hopefully retcon some things).
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Part Two: The Vestige Realm
When talking about “dream” or “delusion” theory, it’s hard to pinpoint when the dream or delusion starts. Some people point to the last chapter being somewhat fake, others say Izuku never left the vestige realm. And me? I’m inclined to believe the latter.
What do we know about the Vestige Realm?
It’s a place that exists within the quirks of One for All and All for One.
Any quirk factors that are stolen by All for One, or stockpiled by One for All, exist within the realm.
The aforementioned quirk factors exist as an extension of what their past users were. By which I mean, the quirk factors are no more than a part of who the real version of them were (e.g vestige Yoichi is not the exact same person as the Yoichi AFO killed).
Now, what do we know about the Vestige Realm around 417 (otherwise known as the chapter where things took a nosedive)?
Izuku is affected by things in Tenko’s mindscape.
In fact, Nana’s exact words are:
This comes after Izuku is almost Isekaied by a truck. He manages to get away, but it sets the tone that it’s hard to differentiate between the real world and the vestige world. It is demonstrated again when Izuku gets his arms decayed and that transfers over to the real world.
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Part Three: I wanna Save that Little Boy!
Hori, in general, is a good writer. He’s good at being consistent….until he wasn’t.
Throughout the manga, at least from 305-onwards, it’s been hammered in that Izuku wants to save Tenko. Most people are framing the fact that he didn’t as “he saved his soul.” Which doesn’t count. At all.
I will never blame Izuku for the hot mess that is Tenko’s ending, and I refuse to believe that “saving his soul” is actually the message that Hori meant to send. I’ve also heard that it has something to do with different cultural aspects about death, so I apologize if that’s all it is.
So, cultural differences aside, Izuku failing to save Tenko (again, through no fault of his own) physically is not what Hori hinted at.
We, as an audience, didn’t need to see Izuku fail at the last possible second. Sure, he’s saved people (Eri and Kota being the main ones), but he’s also lost (his body being broken to hell and back while fighting Muscular at the summer camp. Losing the sports festival - on purpose, but he still lost.)
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Part Four: Joki-Joki boy
I can’t tell you how unspeakably angry this character made me. While I’m happy that he got saved, I honestly don’t think he should exist. And I honestly don’t think he does exist (put a pin in that).
Everything about this character screams TENKO. Everything from his hair to his feet matched what we know about Tomura or an older Tenko.
We see this character in 429 getting saved, and then again in 430 as a U.A. student (8 years later). In no way does this look like a 6 to 8 year old boy!
But, like I said, I don’t think he’s real.
We get a narration from in chapter 429, but that - like everything else - can be excused by Izuku projecting.
I’m going to come back to this character!
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Part Five: Where did it all go wrong?
I propose it all went wrong the moment AFO showed up, and more specifically somewhere in the first three panels of this page.
Or maybe even this one:
Izuku is thrown into a void twice. The first time, he watches AFO’s memories. Among these memories is an explanation about Tenko’s (given) quirk. It’s said that decay is an offshoot of Overhaul’s quirk, which means at one time or another there existed a restoration quirk along with decay. And in the second, he’s taken back to the “real” world. What follows is a little insane.
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Part Six: Where the delusion/dream starts
Izuku makes it back to the real world, and things go fairly quickly.
He loses his arms as per Nana’s earlier words about being affected in the vestige world.
AFO goes in for the kill (assuming), and Izuku’s friends show up just in time.
Aizawa shows up with Eri’s horn in hand to fix Izuku’s arms.
More of his friends show up, including Bakugo (even though this entire ordeal took place across Japan. And he didn’t use Kurogiri’s portal like everyone else), and they helped him fight AFO pt.3.
The US president who, up until that point, had been content with not helping Japan, sends all their heroes.
AFO seems to be too powerful to be defeated, but wait! The vestiges were apparently not destroyed and Tomura is there with them too. And the reason that Tomura is there is because Nana put him back together (something that sounds important but is never brought up again).
So, Tomura and Izuku punch AFO - swapping blood btw - they exchange a few words, and Tenko dies.
By the next chapter (424) three days have passed, and Izuku’s in the hospital.
Neither of Izuku’s parents visit him (on screen), and while I am upset about Hisashi not being revealed, it is weird not to have Inko there. I mean, she visited him last time.
Dabi’s conclusion is rather dark (literally!) and all the villains seem to be set up for Tenko coming back with restoration.
Part Seven: What do I think happened?
Somewhere between page 3 and page 9 of 419, something went wrong.
Maybe it was AFO, or Izuku’s own subconscious being stubborn and unwilling to leave Tenko behind.
After that point of being thrown back into the real world, it feels like the narrative is punishing Izuku. Almost like he’s punishing himself. He can’t move on without being able to “save that little boy.”
I think that, while he’s stuck in the realm, Izuku is creating a reality that makes sense to him. An argument against this is that other characters, that Izuku shouldn’t know, are shown (like Koichi). But that could easily be retconned later on, or have another explanation.
Which would explain why everything feels so shallow. Izuku is good at empathizing with people, but post-war he’s like a robot (mostly due to trauma and not wanting to burden people) and that translates to how others act around him. Uraraka cries in 429, but that’s (could be) another reflection of Izuku's feelings.
He’s bottled all these emotions up, so the only way for him to find catharsis is to imagine one of his friend’s crying (one of his friends that shared a common goal with him. It would make it easier to imagine that she lost too, that he isn’t alone in being a failure). He tears up a little, but before he can actually cry all of class a shows up. Almost like he’s avoiding something…..
This happens also in chapter 424 with Bakugo and All Might, and it’s a cute scene. As long as you ignore how guilty Izuku’s looks, or how hollow All Might’s words feel.
So, he’s trapped in the vestige realm for one reason or another, and besides projecting his feelings on other people, he also begins to create new people.
Joki-joki boy.
People analyzed him every which way. And it’s almost cruel how much he looks like Tenko. His hair is the same texture and color (unless it’s changed in the anime). His narration even refers to his family that physically abused, tortured, and neglected him. And while Tenko’s living situation wasn’t nearly as bad (at the start), it would make sense that Izuku created another Tenko (Tenko 2.0, if you would) to then also create an ideal situation where Tenko 2.0 is saved. He then gets to conveniently be in sight when the boy is saved (by the same woman that turned the real Tenko away the first time).
I also think that, on top of being stuck, Izuku’s and Tenko’s (I have no idea if he’s stuck as well) memories are still linked. So, while Izuku wouldn’t recognize her, Tenko would. And maybe a part of him is trying to communicate with Izuku? Trying to tell him what he wants (to be saved)?
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Conclusion:
I know a lot of this is just me coping. I know that MHA (for now) is done, and that this theory is somewhat in the fanfic territory. But I need some hope. I'll continue to write fanfiction after I'm done mourning what could have been.
I might make another post eventually going through every single thing that feels “off” about the ending.
Hope everyone is enjoying or coping with the ending <3
The main evil has been defeated. All For One no longer threatens the world, the members of the League of Villains are either dead or imprisoned. After the war, people's lives returned to normal. and despite the fact that One For All is close to extinction, Izuku was allowed to continue his studies and subsequent becoming a hero. Studying at UA, in the company of friends-classmates with whom he passed such a difficult and grandiose test, seems to him a dream that has become a reality. But sometimes it seems to Izuku that there is something wrong with all this...
Somewhere, in an unknown laboratory, among the capsules inside which there are various monsters that at any moment can rise up and crush armies on the orders of the owner, there is a tall man with lush, curly ash-colored hair and white eyes without pupils that were hidden by these hairNow he is looking at a 16-year-old boy in one of them. He had just finished his daily dream manipulation routine. Looking at the face of the serenely sleeping youth, he recalled how everything had come to the current situation:
After the explosion in the mansion in the middle of the forest, the young man went on a single AFO search to protect his loved ones. In the battle with the Dictator, Izuku was in a state of severe exhaustion. As soon as the Young hero lost consciousness in the captivity of the unfortunate hands that were taken under the control of the criminal. Observing everything through the search, AFO directed Nomu to take the boy to a place where he can safely hold him and where no one will think of looking for him. And just in time, right before Nomu entered the portal with the boy in his arms, which would take them to their destination, the boy's friends appeared, but they could not change anything, Izuku found himself in the hands of the villain whom he was chasing and who was also his father.
All For One, it was important to get his son out of the game, he couldn't let Izuku get hurt or killed. He will not allow a repeat of Yoichi's fate. And here he is, safe, hidden from all the worries of the outside world. Villain had to tinker with boy's dreams so that he would not try to wake up from the coma into which he had to be immersed so that what was happening in his dream seemed real to Izuku. The path that his son chose was thorny, AFO hoped that after the boy received his message, he would come to his senses and stop taking such risks, but this did not happen and the father had to take everything into his own hands.
Hi everybody. And so I surfaced again from the pool of silence with a short drabble and art on the topic of DFO theory. I am still dissatisfied with the development of the manga and I am 90% sure that the theory will not come true. But still those 10% hope that the theory will be true and there will be a continuation of the manga like Naruto Shippuden. I wanna hope that this old tweet from one of Hori's assistants turns out to be true:
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My midterms are over so I did a little doodle to celebrate! I've heard it's a rite of passage for DP artists to draw the portal accident, and while this isn't that yet, it's close enough to tide me over I hope. Unironically I am kind of obsessed with what the aftermath of his accident looked like.
I wonder what it felt like to wake up as the creature your parents want to hunt, the dead thing you refused to believe in, and worry if you'll ever be human enough ever again. I wonder what Sam and Tucker felt knowing they were watching a person they love die.
That scene in My Brother's Keeper where Spectra asked him directly whether he was a human with ghost abilities or a ghost that can camouflage as a human and he admitted he didn't know? That lives in my head rent free
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