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Make-Up Work #1 Transcript (Secret Origins 80-Page Giant)!
Hey guys, just getting things back up and running. Can't wait to get the new episode up on Saturday! Hope you're all doing well <3
[INTRO]
Hello, and welcome back to the Young, Just Us! Podcast! My name is Roman and Iâm doing an issue-by-issue deep-dive into the 1998 run of DC Comicsâ Young Justice.
[HOUSEKEEPING]
Just so you know, this is going to be kind of a long intro, but you can check the show notes or description for time codes so you can jump into the episode proper if youâd like. Okay, so, as you can see, I had to divert from the original plan of doing Young Justice: Secret Files this week, because although that does come next chronologically after issue four, I completely missed this comic, Secret Origins 80-Page Giant, as in, did not even know it existed, until Tumblr user @/flippin--out very kindly replied to my post and let me know about it. So, thank you so much, @/flippin--out, I seriously appreciate it. But! In my defense! This comic was not on the reading guide Iâve been using, probably for the same reason that I never found and read it during my initial read of Young Justice, which is that âYoung Justiceâ is not in the name of the comic. I am so annoyed about this. And also, as you all probably know, there are two separate issues named, respectively, Young Justice: Secret Files [and Origins], and Young Justice 80-Page Giant. Which, by the way, both do have âYoung Justiceâ in the title, so naturally, they come up when you search âYoung Justiceâ in any comic database including DC Universe Infinite! So, yeah I would just like to know who the psycho was that was in charge of naming those three issues but mostly Secret Origins 80-Page Giant. I just wanna talk! Really!
However! I am now determined to never again be bamboozled by a crossover tie-in event, as happened with Young Justice #1000000 or with a secret comic I did not know about, as happened with this, or a wacky unintuitive reading order or anything else confusing and sanity-sucking about the way that comics are published and organized, or should I say, disorganized. And so I have made another spreadsheetâI already have one, actually several, that I use to log comics I read regularly, like, not for the podcast, and Iâve been doing that for a couple of years, so I figured I could just use my main one for the podcast since I already had logged all of Young Justice on there. But, I have now made a separate spreadsheet just for the podcast. I cross-referenced three different reading guides to do it, and shout out particularly to @/wlwspoiler on Twitter, because his reading guide was by far the most detailed and organized. (Iâm actually thinking about asking her to come on the pod to talk about her archival work and Young Justice in general, but weâll see, like fingers crossed!) But yeah, would recommend that reading guide. But anyway, I now have a highly tightened-up reference guide for this podcast, which should prevent any and all confusion on my part about reading order and any one-shot issues, or special issues. Hopefully. God-willing.Â
So, yes, this is why this episode is a couple days late, because I had to change my plan and because this issue is an 80-page giant which means, you know, it has eighty pages, which is about three to four times the length of a regular issue, as you know, and this is my first time reading it, so I had to like, read it for the first time, absorb it, summarize it, break that summary down into podcast-friendly chunks. So, yeah, thatâs what Iâve been doing this week. It's just been a really long, tedious, and frustrating process, but Iâm actually kind of glad that this happened because now I can course-correct and move forward in the podcast with a lot more confidence, I hope. But, yeah, thank you so much to everyone who has been listening and sending me messages and helping me out with this stuff! Iâm honestly amazed at how quickly this little like, community is building and Iâm really grateful to you all! Every time I get a message it makes me so incandescently happy, and Iâm so glad that people are getting something out of this podcast, whether itâs just something you just put on in the background or youâre actively reading along with me, Iâm super happy to be here, doing this! And you know, it can be really intimidating because I did only recently, like within the last four years, get back into comics in a big way, and I had the idea for this podcast a while ago, but I always felt like, you know, âAm I really the best person to do this? Surely there are more knowledgeable people with more charisma and more experience making a show, and with comics themselves, that would be better suited,â butâIâve always wanted to do a podcast, and I didnât want this to become another project that I just sat on forever and never did anything about, so I just took the leap and so far itâs been really rewarding, and Iâm so glad I did it.
So yeah, I am issuing a formal apology for not knowing ball, Iâm still learning and, like I said, very grateful for everyoneâs patience and help. Thank you again, to everyone listening! And as you can see, this episode is also called something different than normalâthis is the first episode of something Iâm calling âMake-Up Work.â Basically this is where Iâm putting stuff that I missed or failed to release in chronological publishing order, as well as side things, like, maybe other comic series where Young Justice members appear, team-ups, etcetera. It also frees me up to take suggestions and requestsâlike, if youâd like me to recap and review any YJ-related comic, including issues of solo series like Robin, Superboy, and Impulse, then I can just release a quick episode of Make-Up Work between regular episodes if my schedule permits! So hopefully thatâs kind of exciting or at least makes sense, but yeah. My askbox on Tumblr or the email will always be open for that. And I always forget to say, but if you do send me an email, you can say, like, âIâm okay with this being read on the podcast,â or, âDonât read this on the podcast, Iâm just saying something,â you know what I mean? So, either way is fine.
[SCHEDULE UPDATE]
So, all that all being said, the new scheduleâand I am still going to make a visual schedule and post in on the Tumblr, I just obviously had to adjust some things firstâbut the new schedule will be: today, obviously, is the Secret Origins 80-Page Giant, which chronologically comes right before issue four of Young Justice, and I have to take a week off next week âcause I have a medical thing so Iâll be out of town for a few days, but the week after that Iâll be back, and weâll go right into Secret Files, which comes right after issue four in continuity. So maybe you can reread issue four or relisten to the podcast during that skip week! And then weâll be perfectly in tune for Secret Files! After that, Iâm debating whether to do issue one million, or just go back to regular issues for a bitâI think Iâm gonna post a little poll on the Tumblr so you guys can help me decide! You can also send an ask or an email, of course, letting me know what your preference is! Iâd also love for your guysâs thoughts on covering, like, non-essential stuff? Like the JLA/Titans crossover, where YJ is featured, but like, not main characters necessarily. But if I donât cover that in release orderâwhich would actually be right after Secret Files, before issue fiveâI can always just come back to stuff like that with Make-Up-Work!Â
[CORRECTIONS]
Alright believe it or not weâre not done with the intro because I have a few corrections from last week, aside from the obvious. But, regarding Harmâs motherâs name, which is Ellen, I said âEileenâ a couple of times by mistake, but I went back and checked and it was definitely Ellen. So, sorry about that, Ellen.Â
I also said that the Fiesta de San Fermin was being established in the early nineteen hundreds which is definitely not true; it goes back way farther than that. It has origins dating back to the twelfth century, although the bullfighting wasnât added until later, and the festival wasnât actually in Pamplona at first, either, which I thought was interesting. It was moved there because Pamplona has like, very good weather. The bull runs were established semi-officially in the seventeenth century, but what I was thinking of last week was the building of the first official bullring, which was in 1844. So. Hopefully thatâs all right this time. I donât want to spread misinformation.
And now, finally we can get into the actual content of the episode, thank you very much for sitting through all of that if you did.
[LAST WEEK RECAP]
Last week, we discussed issue four, where the gang finally got together for the first time, including the original boysâRobin, Superboy, and Impulseâas well as Secret, Wonder Girl, and Arrowette, who was in Harmâs Way last week and got an arrow through the shoulder for her trouble. But this week, weâre actually going to rewind to before all of that, and answer some of the questions that I very dumbly asked last week, like, why Secret decided to approach the team now with her proposition. Though, I will say that my other questions like, how the Super-Cycle knew where Arrowette was and also why the DEO are back on Secretâs trail so hard, were not answered by this comic, so. I retain some dignity, I suppose. Anyway, this week weâll see some origins, though I donât know how secret they are exactly, and despite her name, we do not get Secretâs secret origin in this comic. Not yet, at least.
[SECRET ORIGINS 80-PAGE GIANT]
The Secret Origins 80-Page Giant contains seven different stories: âDecisions,â âActual Reality,â âSuperboy! Secrets! Origin! This Oneâs Got âEm All!,â âLittle Wing,â âDaddyâs Little Vigilante,â âTruth is Stranger,â and âShafted.â One for each Young Justice member, plus Spoiler, which is interesting, always love to see my girl Steph, though.Â
This issue has a different creative team for each story, so Iâm gonna read them out as we go, though I will say now that Eddie Berganza and Maureen McTigue are credited as editors on the whole book. Tanya Horie, Jeff Matsuda, and Jon Sibal contributed to the cover art which I will be displaying on-screen now in the YouTube version of this episode, but if youâre just listening donât worry because I will describe it: Superboy, Robin, and Impulse are all on the cover in action poses, while Spoiler, Wonder Girl, and Arrowette feature on the left side of the cover in bust character portraits. The Secret Origins title is in large yellow font with blue shadowing, and â80-Page Giantâ is below that in a different yellow font. Below that is the subtitle: âSssh! Donât tell anyone the real deal on: Superboy! Robin! Impulse!â At the bottom is another subtitle that reads: âPlus: a little secret,â all of this against a white background.
Yeah, not much to say here; itâs pretty utilitarian in terms of like, cover art. Though I suppose if the titleâs not going to tell you that itâs about Young Justice, itâs good that the cover does, at least. It does suck that Secretâs not featured but I get itâsheâs an original character for YJ and readers wouldnât know who she is if they hadnât already read Young Justice: The Secret, so, yeah, understandable that they wouldnât put her on there. Although, she is like, kind of the main character of this issue, so, still kind of doing her dirty, in my opinion. I do like the little âPlus: a little secretâ subtitle, though, like who doesnât love a good pun? Itâs not, âPlus, weâll tell you a little secret!â but rather, âPlus a little bit of the character Secret.â Very funny. I also love Robinâs huge nineties feet. Always a joy.
So, if you donât know, the âSecret Originsâ thing originated as a 1986 series of comics, titled Secret Origins, that basically retold different heroesâ origin stories, updated them or summarized them for new readers. There was a relaunch of this series for the Prime Earth universe in 2014. But after the eighties series DC started doing âSecret Files and Origins,â which were one-shots that started coming out in the late nineties, which is sort of the same premise but these generally functioned more as advertising tools for then-currently running books; they included side-stories, teasers for upcoming arcs, character profiles, pin-ups, stuff like that. Young Justice also has one of these, which weâll be covering next episode, as I said, so youâd be forgiven for not knowing that they had another âSecret Originsâ issue, I hope I am. Anyway, this issue is more of the eighties series format, with mostly just updated or condensed versions of each characterâs origin story. Letâs get into it, shall we?
The synopsis for this issue on DC Universe Infinite reads:
The Secret comes to the Young Justice hideout and meets Red Tornado.Â
Someone was getting lazy with these synopses, guys, âcause let me tell you, thereâs a little more to it than that. Iâm going to get into the comic proper now so feel free to read along, just listen, or watch the YouTube version where you can see select panels that Iâve pulled from this issue. I also want to say that thereâs a mistake in the formatting of this comic on DC Universe Infiniteâthey accidentally display the tenth page as page one, so if you have that problem just know itâs not you and you can just skip to the next page, and that should be page one, and the rest of the issue is fine; page ten is where it should be, thereâs just a random copy of it at the beginning.Â
[DECISIONS]
Okay, so our first story is âDecisions,â featuring Secret and Red Tornado. Decisions was written by Dan Curtis Johnson, pencilled by Angel Unzueta, inked by Jaime Mendoza, colored by Joe Rosas, and lettered by Clem Robins. And I actually really love this lettering style, so shoutout to Clem Robins. Great job.
We open on Secret, in the Young Justice hideout. Captions tell us: [On the fringes of society, youâll find there are people who devote themselves to understanding secrets. But sometimes, in some placesâsuch as the underground headquarters of Young Justiceâthere are secrets trying to understand people.] Red Tornado catches her looking around and asks who she is. She says sheâs a friend of the boys and Red Tornado offers himself for advice if she needs something to talkâWow, Freudian slip, there, âsomething to talk to,â I donât see Red Tornado as human, subconsciously! Sorry, sorry Mr. Smith!--offers himself for advice if she needs someone to talk to. Secret explains her situation to him, including the DEO, and the basic events of Young Justice: The Secret. Apparently sheâs been secretly following the boys ever since then in order to observe how they live, in an attempt to learn how to lead a normal life in the outside world herself. Red Tornado says that she definitely picked the wrong people to study if she wants to be a normal teenager, and she agrees, noting that Impulse in particular seems to get himself into an inordinate amount of trouble.Â
So, basically this story is going to function as the framing device for the rest of this issue, like each character will naturally come up in this conversation between Secret and Red Tornado, and weâll see that characterâs origin story told in a way thatâs like, somehow relevant to what Secret and Red Tornado are thinking or talking about. So, like, since she just brought up Impulse at the end of this section, weâll go into Impulseâs story next, and between each story is a scene of Decisions, leading us out of and into each one. Itâs a pretty good framing device, and itâs great to see more of Secretâs like, inner thoughts since weâre really still getting to know this character and donât even have her origin story yet.
I will say Red Tornado is, like, unbelievably jacked, like, in these first pages especially, itâs really scary. Just the way Angel Unzueta draws him is just a lot less robot and a lot more human? Like, itâs like he has red skin rather than a metal shell, is the effect of the style. Like, why does he have veins? But anyway, Red Tornadoâs line about being an advice vending machine is really funny but like, kind of out of character I feel like? Like, I donât know, I just canât see him saying that in a regular issue of Young Justice, it seems more like something that one of the boys would call him rather than something heâd call himself. But, regardless, Red Tornado is really sweet to Secret here, and you get the sense that heâs like, âThank god I get a break from talking to insane people and can just give this sweet ghost girl some advice instead!âÂ
Itâs also really cool to see panels from other issues redone in a different artistâs style! I know this is kind of like, one of the main points of a Secret Origins book, but yeah, just because you can tell the new artists really studied and like properly reinterpreted the original panels, like this one here from Young Justice: The Secret, with Secret and the boys on page four. There are a lot of these throughout the issue, so keep an eye out!
And the reveal that sheâs been following around the boys ever since they helped her escape is really funny and sweet and also a little sad. But I think realistic! Like, if you just got out of captivity, which youâd spent your entire known life in, wouldnât you also latch onto the first people who showed you any kindness whatsoever? Especially because she doesnât remember her life before DEO, like, it makes sense that she wouldnât have known where else to go. Red Tornadoâs probably right that Secret picked the wrong people to observe in order to understand how to lead a normal life, but I donât think Secret really actually wants a normal life, and besides, itâs not something thatâs actually really obtainable for her at this stageâsheâs on the run from a government agency and generally basically incorporeal. Itâs probably fine if she observes other people her age with atypical lives, even if she doesnât end up wanting to be a full-time vigilante. Her line about it being a wonder that Impulse even finds time to acquire enemies is really funny, too. And letâs check in with that troublemaker, shall we?
[ACTUAL REALITY]
Our second story is âActual Reality,â featuring Bart Allen as Impulse, and it was written by Mark Waid, pencilled by Humberto Ramos, inked by Wayne Faucher, colored by Jason Wright, and lettered by Chris Eliopoulos.
Over in Manchester Alabama, we get the secret origin of Impulse! Carol Bucklen, Bartâs best friend, is rescued from some bullies by Bart, though he fails to read some âfresh pavementâ construction signs and ends up getting tar all over himself. He only makes it worse trying to get it off and ends up stuck in the barrel of tar. Carol is freaking out, worried about the road crew coming back, but Bart tells her to relax; the bullies will catch up to them first! Carol, frustrated, asks Bart why heâs like this. âLike what?â He asks. âLike from another planet!â Bart explains to her, apparently not for the first time, that heâs not from another planet, just the thirtieth century, where his grandparents, Barry and Iris Allen, lived for a while. He inherited the superspeed gene, but it manifested by aging him quickly, in what was called âhyperacceleration.â His body aged, but his mind didnât. Carol asks how old he is now, and he says, âThree. Fifteen. Depends.â The EarthGov scientists could only teach him by keeping him in constant virtual realityâbasically he grew up in video games. Carol impresses upon him that this is the real world, and not everything comes with a reset button, for example getting stuck in a barrel of tar. Bart continues to explain that his grandmother Iris took him back to this century and the new Flash, his cousin Wally, helped reset his powers by pushing him past his limit, and after that he could run at any speed he wanted and even vibrate through things; recounting this gives Bart the idea to try vibrating through the tar, but it doesnât work and just heats up the tar so that it starts burning him. Carol continues to try to pull him out and asks who gave him the name Impulse. Bart tells her that Batman did, and wonders if he was being funnyâCarol thinks he was. She gives up and tries to go get Max Mercury, but Bart protests and sticks her in the barrel of tar next to him to stop her. He says Max doesnât understand him and explains that Wally said he needed supervision, so stuck him with the alleged âzen master of speed,â so now Bart has to pretend to be Maxâs nephew and live with him and his daughter Helen. Carol says that Max is just trying to help Bart by training him and teaching him to protect his secret identity. Bart points out that she figured it out, but Carol says that probably only made Max even more paranoid. Then the bullies catch up with them, Bart antagonizes them a little, but thanks to Carolâs quick thinking the bullies are tricked into throwing the tar barrel with Bart and Carol in it down the hill, which breaks the barrel and finally separates the tar from them. Bart puts on the Impulse suit and gets some quick revenge on the bullies, which involves knocking them down the hill and sticking traffic cones on their heads with the remaining tar. He calls for Carol now that the coast is clear, but she has yet to forgive him for getting them into so much trouble.
So, as soon as I started this story I was like, âOmg I love this art, I wonder who did the pencils,â and I looked at the credits and of course⌠it was my GOAT Humberto Ramos. I just really love his style so much, especially combined with Jason Wrightâs like really vibrant colors. But anyway, I really like this story, though maybe Iâm biased as a Bart-lover, but Mark Waid, the madman, has done it again⌠I just find the back-and-forth dialogue between Bart and Carol to be really natural and funny. Especially that part where Bart is trying to vibrate out of the tar and itâs burning him and heâs like, âOw,â and sheâs like, âStop,â and heâs like, âOw,â and sheâs like âStop!â and they just go back and forth.
In terms of the actual origin story, I do just find Bart to be the most interesting character out of all the speedsters, and part of it definitely has to do with him genetically inheriting the speedster gene and the unique powerset that comes with that. His altered development is also a great character detail which allows writers to do a lot of different things with him and have him make decisions and do things that other characters wouldnât do. I also like highlighting the idea that Bart has trouble with, like, consequences of actions, which would probably be hard for any speedsterâlike, being able to instantly fix most physical mistakesâand much less one raised in a virtual reality. As Carol says, this is actual reality and as clumsily as Bart does it, I really do think he does his best to understand and adapt to that.Â
But yeah, not too much to say other than that; I have been through all of these origins pretty much in my first episode, Episode 0 of this podcast, besides Spoilerâs obviously, so Iâll try not to repeat myself too much, but I think itâs a good retelling and summation of those events, and I do think it lends some good insight into Bartâs character, especially if you donât have that context before. I love how they did clarify that the bully that Bart compared to a gorilla was not the black one. Good call, guys. It is also crazy that getting the bullies to throw the barrel with them in it actually works in letting them escape the tar and doesnât, like, seriously injure or kill them, but Iâm glad theyâre okay. I guess itâs not that big of a hill. But yeah I donât blame Carol for still being mad at Bart; kinda deserved for this one.Â
[DECISIONS]
Going back to Decisions with Secret and Red Tornado, weâre still in the Young Justice headquarters, and Red Tornado agrees that Bart gets into a lot of trouble but admires his determination to keep trying until he gets it rightâor at least done. Secret says that all of the boys seem to share that kind of drive, and she wishes she were that strong. Red Tornado assures her that, having been through what she has also takes an incredible will, and itâs impressive that sheâs survived. But she argues that it doesnât feel the sameâshe spent her time with the DEO being patient and evasive, rather than fighting back. Red Tornado says that patience is also a kind of strength, but Secret thinks of Superboy, who always seems to be pushing himself to and past his limits.
I think that Secretâs struggle is actually really relatable hereâbeing surrounded by people who seem like they have it figured out, or at least seem passionate about whatever theyâre doingâit can make trying to find your own sense of purpose even more difficult. And again, itâs nice that Red Tornado is being so sweet to her. Kind of acting as therapist in this moment.
[SUPERBOY! SECRETS! ORIGIN! THIS ONEâS GOT âEM ALL!]
Moving on, our third story is titled âSuperboy! Secrets! Origin! This Oneâs Got âEm All!â and features Superboy, as you might have guessed. This story was written by Karl Kesel, pencilled by Joe Phillips, inked by Jasen Rodriguez, colored by Tom McCraw, and lettered by lettering studio Comicraft, and Frank Berrios is credited as assistant editor, just on this story.
We catch up with Superboy just as some deadly titanium shells are headed right for him! âŚBut of course they bounce right off of him. He is apparently fighting aliens who are intent on enslaving mankind, and he avidly narrates his own super-heroing as he fights. It turns out that itâs only a training session with Cadmus, though, and Dubbilex, Guardian, and Dr. Serling Roquette are observing Superboy. Mickey Cannon, the director of Cadmus, joins them a moment later, and since heâs new to the project he hasnât gotten a chance to look at Superboyâs file, so Guardian gives him and us a refresher on Superboyâs powers. He goes over TTK, his invulnerability to solid objects, though he says that Superboy is not invulnerable to energyâelectricity, extreme heat and cold, etcetera. Mickey protests that his powers seem very different to Supermanâs, and Guardian explains that Project Cadmus originally wanted to produce a clone of Superman after he died at the hands of Doomsday, but the original directors couldnât replicate Kryptonian DNA, so then Director Westfield created a modified clone of himself, genetically engineered to be as close to Superman as possibly in terms of appearance and powers. Superboy was grown at an accelerated rate (much like Bart, actually), and implanted with knowledge appropriate to what heâd be learning as a normally developing human. This went on until the Newsboy Legion found out about this illegal experiment and freed Superboy, which was probably good since Director Westfield was so freaking evil. Guardian pointedly says they all hope Cadmus never has to deal with that kind of Director again. Superboy, meanwhile, has continued to narrate his training session in typical creative and self-aggrandizing manner. Dubbilex comments on his imagination, and Guardian goes in to help Superboy with his trainingâi.e., give him one last challenge before he succeeds in the session. Mickey still wonders why Director PAul Westfield didnât give Superboy more superpowers, like x-ray and heat-vision, elevated senses, etcetera, since those things should have been easy to add genetically, and Dr. Roquette says that she recently got a genetic scan of Superboy, which happened in Superboy #1000000, and it appears that those kinds of modificationsâthat is, different types of vision and super-sensesâare genetically coded into him, but specifically to activate as he grows older, much like how Supermanâs powers naturally developed under a yellow sun. Dr. Roquette doesnât know exactly what powers heâll developâor rather, would develop, as Dubbliex points out; the procedure that Dr. Amanda Spence performed to save him from the virus he contracted circa Superboy #40 had the side-effect of permanently stopping his agingâmeaning heâll remain sixteen forever, theoretically. Mickey is displeased by this. Meanwhile, Superboy and Guardian continue to duke it out, each gaining the upper hand on the other, and just when it appears Superboyâs won, Guardian points out that heâs actually back where he started, and will have to get across the room with all new traps. Superboy says that at least he has Guardian by his side, this time, and they both start pretending that theyâre being attacked by Intergang, having a great time fighting their way out together.Â
Boy I wish I could tell the me of a couple months ago trying to figure out Superboyâs exact powerset and origin story for Episode 0 about this comic. Alas. But yeah, Iâll be honest, I probably find this story to be the least riveting of all the stories in this book? Like, I just donât find the framing device of the Cadmus crew having to explain Superboyâs origin to Mickey Cannon to be very compelling at allâlike, half the fun of these stories is getting to hear these heroes tell their origins in their own words, and sort of glean what they themselves think of those events. I also just really donât find Dubbilex and Guardian to be very interesting characters in a vacuum, and this story kind of does exactly that to them. Shoutout to Dr. Roquette, though, I love her. But yeah I did make this connection for the first time about Bart and Kon sharing a kind of stunted or misshapen developmentâtheir natural growth being somehow interfered with, or in Superboyâs case, halted completely. Iâm not really sure what I think that connection means yet, but I suppose that, if Young Justice as a series is being framed as a sort of companion piece to adolescence, it makes sense for the characters to also come to this phase of their lives needing to learn how to adapt to itâall of the characters in YJ have this to a certain extentâSecretâs talking about it in her story in this issue as well. Tim is kind of the only one whoâs like, âYeah being a teenager is weird but I have a job so I canât really worry about that right now.â And it also presents the question of like, is superhero-ing taking their youth away from them by forcing them to take on more than the average responsibility, or does it enhance that period of youth?Â
You can tell I donât have much to say about this story because Iâve veered into working on my unified theory of Young Justice, but here are the things I actually did like⌠I like the art, itâs very clean, and the colors are bright, which I like. I think itâs very funny when Guardian is like, âYeah, that Paul Westfield guy was so evil, I sure hope our CURRENT director ISNâT EVIL,â like, directly into Mickey Cannonâs face. Like, damn that whole Westfield thing really traumatized Guardian. And I also like Dr. Roquette revealing that Superboy was in fact engineered to develop super senses and other powers as he matured. I canât remember if we already knew this from a different issue or if we didnât, but itâs cool to know, and makes the Cadmus scientists seem like, less stupid for nerfing Superboy so severely. I also like, I was just very confused about the geography of this room that Superboyâs training in or like, what the goal was? Like, I know heâs trying to get out of the room, but at the end when Guardianâs like, âBut look where youâve ended up!â Iâm like, âWhere is heâŚ?â I donât know, it just, maybe I have to read it again, weâll see. But letâs move on!
[DECISIONS]
Back in Decisions, Secret voices the idea that itâs sad to think Superboy will never reach his full potential due to being stuck at sixteen, but Red Tornado argues that heâs fulfilling his potential in lots of other ways, and heâs doing his best with what he has. Tornado goes on to say that itâs counterproductive to compare yourself to others, and itâs better to determine your own standards of success. Secret says she sees what he means; the DEO had set all her goals for her, but now she can set her own. She understands the pressure that the YJ boys are under, with their superhero counterparts to live up to, and she thinks it must be hard for Robin to have not just one, but two, referencing Batman and Nightwing.Â
Girl, thatâs how I felt when I graduated from college. I was like, âWhat do you mean no one will ever give me an A in something ever again in my life? How am I supposed to know if I did a good job?â But yeah Secretâs struggles here speak to something really true about leaving an institution, whether thatâs the DEO, academia, or something elseâthat instant loss of identity is pretty universal; I really feel for her. And I think in terms of Robin, I think that Dick actually serves as a good counterbalance to Batman for Tim, like itâs an example of like, âHereâs how to grow up and keep doing the Batman thing without literally becoming Batman.â And I think thatâs supported by the story, so letâs get into it.Â
[LITTLE WING]
The fourth story features Tim Drake as Robin and is titled âLittle Wing.â It was written by Chuck Dixon, pencilled [and inked] by Cully Hamner, colored by Roberto Tewes, and lettered by Tim Harkins.
Tim Drake has come to Dick Graysonâs apartment in BlĂźdhaven to get away from everything for a while. Dick bothers him in typical older brother fashion, but eventually asks if Tim ever thinks about giving up vigilantism and leading a normal life. Tim says that he doesnât think his lifeâs been normal ever since that fateful day he met Dick at Halyâs Circus and saw the Graysons die. He recounts the tragic events of that night, including Batman showing up. Dick still finds it amazing that Tim figured out his and Bruceâs secret identities at only nine years old. Tim explains that Dickâs signature quadruple somersault gave him away, and says he followed Batman and Robin very closely after that, and witnessed Dickâs graduation from the Robin mantle. Together they reminisce about Tim becoming Robin because Dick couldnât, and saving Batman and Nightwing from Two-Face, which led him to officially becoming Robin and filling the void that Jason Todd, the second Robin, left unwillingly when he died. Dick asks about Timâs training and apologizes for not being very involved with it. Tim explains that Batman trained him very thoroughly, but was extremely reluctant to let him actually wear the Robin suit and go out with him at night. That is, until Tim snuck out anyway to save Bruce from one of Scarecrowâs schemes, and Bruce finally gave him his own Robin suit, then sent him for further training with Henri Ducard, Lady Shiva, and the like. Tim talks about all the rogues heâs fought, and Dick asks why he keeps doing it rather than trying to get out. Tim says maybe one day heâll realize how insane this life is, but for now he needs to keep being Robin, both for himself and for Bruce and the greater good. Dick says thatâs fair enough, and then Barbara calls in with some information on a drug shipment. Dick and Tim head out together as Nightwing and Robin, and Tim says in narration that while he did come here to get away from it all, perhaps itâs alright that you can never really get away from who youâre meant to be.
Yeah this story basically just makes me really wish that DC knew what to do with Tim in current comics⌠like, heâs such a natural vigilante it really feels like he shouldâve stepped into and established his own identity unattached to the Robin mantle a hundred times over by now. But yeah, anyway, I like this story, I love Tim and Dick as brothers, I think that dynamic really works, and itâs incredibly weird to me that Jack and Janet Drake are both blonde. Like I just do not picture them blonde ever. And yeah, going back to what I was saying in the last Decisions section, I think having Dick-as-Nightwing to look up to is really quite healthy for Tim, and if it was just him and Bruce I think he might struggle a lot more and hold himself to even higher expectations than he already does.Â
[DECISIONS]
In Decisions, Secret wonders if Tim knew how much responsibility he was taking on at the time, or if any of the boys did for that matter, and Red Tornado responds that he doesnât think so, and is fairly sure Impulse still doesnât know, though they have all certainly risen to the occasion. Secret wonders how they knew what they were meant for; she doesnât think she should necessarily be a hero like them, but it feels like she should. Just then, someone begins calling for help outside the cave. Secret and Red Tornado rush out and find a girl hanging by her sweater from a tree branch. Secret catches her when she falls, and scolds her for being reckless. The girl explains she was having a picnic with her family over the ridge and decided to go exploring. She admires Secretâs superheroing, and Secret tells her to keep that on the downlow for now, and the girl agrees. Red Tornado points out that Secret didnât seem to have any doubt about what to do in that situation, and Secret agrees, and says it was a split-second of clarity, and she thinks that thatâs what it must have been like for the boys, too.
Girl howâd you even get up in the tree like that, like, what the hell? Like sheâs literally hanging from her sweater, off of the ground. This âhero saveâ for Secret is really kind of lame. Like I wish it connected more to her unique abilities like it wouldnât have just been likeâanyone can catch a girl falling from a tree, you know what I mean? But Iâm happy sheâs happy. And I do like how her somewhat naive view of âjust knowing what was rightâ is kind of immediately gonna be challenged by Stephanieâs more complicated journey to vigilantism.
[DADDYâS LITTLE VIGILANTE]
Speaking of, the fifth story is called âDaddyâs Little Vigilante,â featuring Stephanie Brown as Spoiler, and it was written by Chuck Dixon, pencilled by Amanda Conner, inked by Jimmy Palmiotti, colored by Pam Rambo, and lettered by Clem Robins once again.
Stephanie Brown, otherwise known as Spoiler, narrates that yes, she is a vigilante, of the Bat-adjacent variety, but hasnât been crimefighting as of late. She says that perhaps she was always destined to be a superhero due to the negative role-modeling of her father, Arthur Brown. We see a flashback to Stephanie as a toddler, and see that her father was abusive to both her and her mother, Crystal Brown. It turns out he was and is the villain, Cluemaster, though he was apparently never very good at villainy, and spent years in and out of Blackgate Prison. Arthur largely blamed Batman for his failings, which made Stephanie like Batman. She says her father aspired to the likes of the Joker or the Riddler, but he wasnât very good at leaving his titular âclues,â which just ended up getting him caught more often than not. Even when Stephanieâs father was away for longer periods of time, her mother still struggled with addiction and the trauma of her abusive marriage. Arthur got out of prison when Steph was fifteen, although all his apparent rehabilitation accomplished was curing his affinity for cluesâhe was still a criminal, and now planning an actually competent crime at that. Stephanie felt she had no other choice but to become a vigilante herself in order to stop him; she made her own costume and followed her father. She began leaving her own clues in order to tip off Batman, though he and Robin got the mistaken impression that Stephanie was actually working with her father by leaving the clues. Despite getting off on the wrong foot, she quickly developed affection for Robin, who also introduced her to Batman. The dynamic duo told her to let them handle the situation, but she wanted to make sure Arthur didnât get awayâand get some catharsis while she was at it; she revealed her identity to her father, who was shocked. Batman did convince her not to kill him, which she supposes was for the best, and though she obeyed him, he still told her to hang up the cape and tights, which she did not. Sheâs had a great run so far as Spoiler since then, but sheâs not a vigilante anymore, though she thinks she might go back to it someday. It turns out sheâs been telling all of this to her pregnant belly, and she says she hopes the babyâs adoptive parents will do better than hers did.Â
Literal pregnancy jumpscare at the end thereâI had completely forgotten that this storyline was happening at this point in the continuity, and just when I was getting to the end of this story, being like, âDamn, why wasnât Steph in Young Justice?â I was hit with this panel like, âOhhh right. That.â I really do wonder if having Steph in YJ was the plan at some point, because she does make a cameo in JLA: World Without Grown-Ups like in the same context as Arrowette and Wonder Girl, and itâs also interesting that she was included here in this issue⌠if anyone knows anything about that situation please hit me upâI mean, I know Chuck Dixon was pretty⌠like, he really wanted to do the teen pregnancy storyline. But I wonder if he like, didnât communicate that to the rest of like, DC writers and, like maybe Peter David was under the impression⌠or Todd Dezago, because I guess he wrote JLA: World Without Grown-Ups, but, anyway, yeah, if anyone has any info, please hit me up, Iâm really curious.
Anyway, this weekâs no-context-panel teaser was from this story; #KillYourDadSaturday. Yeah I just love Steph and I actually really like this story. First of all I just love when women draw women, you can kind of⌠tell, and a lot of details in here are great, so definite shout out to Amanda Conner on pencils here. Stephâs story in general is really tragic, which makes her character all the cooler honestly, Iâve always loved Spoiler. Like, her thing is basically âMy dad was such a loser that I had to become a superhero just to make him stop embarrassing me.â Like, character of all time, honestly. This story is also really well-told, as in the actual dialogue of Steph explaining everything is pretty straightforward but entertaining. Like I said before, a lot of the fun of these stories is getting a peek into how the character themself feels about the events of their origin, with a little hindsight to look back on it. Again, I wish DC gave Steph a lot more to do (even another solo series as Spoiler rather than Batgirl), but Iâm enjoying the Batgirls team-up book and Iâm glad sheâs a fixture of modern Bat-comics. Oh, and I also wanted to mention thereâs also a cool panel in here of Arthur hitting Crystalâthatâs not cool, butâin the background of the panel thereâs a mirrored pose on the TV, and for some reason that just really hit me as like, poignant? Like, the way that violence is made into entertainment and enjoyed lightly, versus, like, the contrast of a real-life example of violence that isnât funny or cool at all, itâs just sort of shocking and gross. I also really enjoy that in the last panel thereâs a box on Stephâs bed in her room labeled âskinny clothes,â like, thatâs just so realistic, that a pregnant teenage girl would like, you know, obviously make that box and keep all her clothes, I mean why wouldnât she keep her clothes, but you know what I mean. I like the box itâs a really good detail. Letâs move on.
[DECISIONS]
Back to Decisions, Secret and Red Tornado are still outside from when Secret saved the girl in the tree. Secret is glad that Spoiler seems to be doing alright, despite her father, and Red Tornado says that she managed to find a better role model for herself, meaning Batman. Secret wishes she had her own role model, and asks Red Tornado if thereâs ever been a hero like her before. Red Tornado says not that he knows of, but Secret doesnât need a role model; she can just be herself. She asks if there was a Red Tornado before him and he says yes, but that she doesnât even want to know. Secret still thinks itâd make things much easier for her if she could be someoneâs sidekick and then inherit their name and legacy, the way her friends in Young Justice will. Red Tornado tells her that it would make some things easier but others more difficult; thereâs always baggage attached to a heroâs legacy that you also inherit along with the good things.
I believe Red Tornado is referencing the Ma Hunkel version of his character here, which is a funny kind of meta reference. And I completely sympathize with Secret! I mean she doesnât even know what she is, really, or the full extent of her powers, so itâs completely reasonable to want a mentor like the other members of YJ do. I also really love this panel of them, like, the reflection in the pond or lake. I love when they do like Secret with no pupils or irises, like, just blank eyes like itâs really creepy and cool.
[TRUTH IS STRANGER]
The sixth story of this book is titled âTruth is Strangerâ and features Cassie Sandsmark as Wonder Girl. This story was written by Jay Faerber, pencilled and inked by Ethan Van Sciver, colored by Felix Serrano, and lettered by Janice Chiang.Â
We catch up with Cassie in school, as she tells her friend, Georgia, that she noticed the new kid in their class is drawing superheroes. She considers herself to be a superhero expert so she introduces herself to the new kid, whose name is Cole Rorchek. She says she knows the superhero Wonder Girl and offers to tell him her secret origin, though Cole seems more interested in a more famous hero like Superman or Flash, but Cassie assures him that those guys are old news and Wonder Girl is much cooler, and she begins to tell him the story. She says Wonder Girl first met Wonder Woman when they teamed up to fight an Ancient Greek robot, which was foiled thanks to Cassieâs plan. Wonder Woman, impressed, asked Cassie to be her partner and began training her. Cassie explains that Wonder Woman gifted her the Sandals of Hermes, but told her not to use them without her permission, though Cassie had to break that rule when she saw Wonder Woman fighting Doomsday. She used the Sandals and also the Gauntlet of Atlas to help in the fight and aided Wonder Woman in the defeat of Doomsday, which Cole is pretty impressed by. Cassie goes on to say that her mother didnât want her to become a superhero and though Wonder Woman disagreed, she ultimately conceded to Helena. Luckily, Wonder Girl managed to sneak into Olympus with Wonder Woman and company, and got the chance to ask Zeus for actual superpowers, who granted her wishâwith a caveat that Cassieâs mother, Helena Sandsmark, could depower her with just a touch. Morgaine le Fay later exploited this when she possessed Helena, teaming up with Merlin to strike Cassie down. Wonder Woman intervened in time, however, and saved Cassie and her mom. Cassie also recounts how the previous Wonder Girl, Donna Troy, gave her her old costume, as a rite of passage. Cassie now asks Cole if sheâs changed his mind about Wonder Girl, and Cole says she has, and he thinks Wonder Girl is pretty cool now, though when Cassie asks if heâd believe she was Wonder Girl, he scoffs, leaving Cassie disappointed.
So, this was pretty interesting to read for me because I havenât read Cassieâs original introduction in Wonder Woman, though I knew, like, the gist of it, obviously. I will say the whole set up of this and the last panels where Cassie asks Cole like, âWhat would you say if I told you I was Wonder Girl?â and sheâs like sad when he doesnât believe her⌠I mean, itâs just a little silly like, Cassie, as far as we know, leads a very charmed life with a mother that loves her and a mentor that trains and protects her, and obviously no one would believe that like, their random middle school classmate is an actual superhero. Iâm just saying like, donât take it personally, Cassie. And you shouldnât have been telling random people your secret identity anyway?! When you specifically wear a wig to conceal it! Iâm just like, why did she do that. I mean I get that sheâs like, kind of insecure, but, ugh, I donât know. I just like Cassie a lot more later, in Young Justice. I do really like some of the art here, and the drawing of Zeus on page fifty-six is very cool and like really interesting to look at. But yeah I think thatâs it for this one, sorry guys I just donât have much to say!
[SHAFTED]
Our seventh and final story of this comic is called âShaftedâ and features Cissie King-Jones as Arrowette. This story was written by Tom Peyer, penciled by Marty Egeland, inked by Norm Rapmund, colored by Scott Baumann, and lettered by Kurt Hathaway.Â
Arrowette, Cissie King-Jones, is having a therapy session with her psychiatrist, Dr. Marcy Money. Marcy is trying to get Cissie to explain why she became a vigilante, and though Cissie seems reluctant, she ultimately obliges. She explains that this all begins with her motherâs mother, Millie King, who trained Bonnie in archery relentlessly; eventually Bonnie won the bronze medal at the Olympics in archery, but this was dissatisfying to her mother, Millie, so Bonnie moved out and never spoke to her mother again. Despite swearing off archery, when she discovered Green Arrow and Speedy, she decided to follow in their footsteps and became Miss Arrowette. Though she wasnât successful in crimefighting, she met Bernell âBowstringâ Jones through it, a reporter. He knew her from the Olympics, and they flirted a little before she got him to agree to be assistant to Miss Arrowette, though by day Bonnie was still a struggling temp worker. Marcy Money interrupts Cissie here, pointing out how much Cissie is having to talk about her motherâs life in order to talk about her own. Cissie agrees; Bonnie made sure that Cissieâs life has been an almost exact mirror of her own. Bonnieâs vigilante career was further hindered by her developing carpal tunnel, so she had to quit archery. She married Bowstring and had Cissie, though Bowstring dropped dead when Cissie was five thanks to some bad shellfish. Cissie says that she was old enough, though, to be ashamed at how ecstatic Bonnie was to receive the insurance check from Hal Jordan. Bonnie, determined to live her dreams vicariously through Cissie, trained her even harder than Millie trained Bonnie, getting her lessons in every skill money could buy. Cissie says, âBy the time Iâd graduated from Camp Bonnie, Iâd turned into my mother, and sheâd turned into hers.â Cissie explains that she was then crimefighting in her motherâs old costume, not because she had any personal desire for vengeance or justice, but because her mother told her to. Because Supermanâs death coincided with Cissieâs debut as the new Miss Arrowette, Bonnie put even more pressure on Cissie to get noticed by the media as a vigilante. This resulted in the plan to capture the hot new villain, the Spazz, which led Cissie and Bonnie into the paths of Max Mercury and Impulse; Bonnie didnât want to share the spotlight with them, but she had bigger problems when Max turned her in to Child Welfare Services, who removed Cissie from Bonnieâs custody despite best efforts of Bonnie and her lawyer. Bonnie was then put under psychiatric observation. Cissie says she expected to be scared or sad, but all she felt was relief. In the present, Dr. Money validates Cissieâs feelings and prompts her to figure out what to do with those feelings. Cissie says she wants to go public, but Marcy discourages her, saying that the court sealed Cisseâs file in order to protect her identity from the criminals she fought as Arrowette. Cissie protests that sheâs worried if she doesnât go public, sheâll let her mother force her into being Arrowette again, and she doesnât want that to happen. Marcy says that what sheâs feeling is completely normal, and any number of extreme reactions on Cissieâs behalf could be expected, including never being Arrowette again, cutting contact with her mother, or even trying to be an even better Arrowette in her motherâs absence, to spite her. Cissie seems very interested in that last option, and we cut to some time later, where Cissie is back being Arrowette, and Dr. Marcy Money watches this on TV with dismay. Sheâs convinced that sheâs ruined Cissieâs life and put her in grave danger, though sheâs hesitant to go to the authorities and possibly make things worse for Cissie by exposing her identity.
So, I already talked about this origin quite a bit in Episode 0, but yeah basically, I think this story of like, generational trauma passed down maternally is very interesting and poignant and makes Cissie one of the most interesting members of the team on a character level. It is great to see more of Marcy Money, because the only time you really see her again in Young Justice is when she, well, diesâsorry spoilersâaround issue eighteen. So, yeah itâs really good to see what her and Cissieâs relationship actually was like a bit more. Couple of notes hereâit is kind of insane that Bowstring like, drops dead from presumably defective shrimp? Like, it doesnât say he has an allergy, and why would he be eating shellfish voluntarily if he did, but it specifically says he dies from quote-unquote âbad shellfishâ which like, Iâm pretty sure even the worst contractable parasite or virus would take at least a few hours to kill someone after ingestion. Unless he choked on it, but it didnât say that. But yeah, Iâm very curious about this piece of instant death shrimp, Bonnie shouldâve reported it to the CDC probably. Also very fun to have a Hal Jordan cameo, I forgot that he has like, this stint as an insurance guy, but yeah and his disapproving look at Bonnie as he leaves is really funny.
Once again I just really love the characters telling their stories in their own words, and that line where Cissie says, âBy the time Iâd graduated from Camp Bonnie, Iâd turned into my mother, and sheâd turned into hers.â Like, really chilling honestly. Itâs very sad to see this kind of like doomed line of Kings and King-Joneses who just canât seem to get it right, you know? Very like, the cycle of abuse and the cycle of trauma. I do find it a little hard to believe that Marcyâs comment about being Arrowette to spite her mother wouldnât have already occurred to Cissie organically, but perhaps it was just Marcyâs phrasing that sparked it for Cissie. I also think in terms of Marcy despairing over like, feeling guilty about being responsible for Cissieâs backslide into vigilantism⌠if sheâs really that worried then surely thereâs a way for her to contact the original people or law enforcement that already dealt with Cissieâs custody case? Like, they could continue to keep her identity a secret and her file kept to only those who already know⌠I think? I donât know, maybe there are more bureaucratic problems with that but it just seems like, Marcy girl, like get it together and help that child if you want to! Anyway, yeah, this is definitely another one of my favorite stories, I just love Cissie. Cissie and Bart are my babies.
[DECISIONS]
Lastly we check back with Secret and Red Tornado one last time, and Secret says she sees what he means about inheriting trouble along with a legacy. Red Tornado says itâs not enough just to know what to do; you also have to know why youâre doing it. Secret says that all of the heroes theyâve discussed have thatâthat reason, and they also know who to go after, and she doesnât know if she has that yet. Red Tornado points that even so she seems to have made up her mind about something. She says she has, and the thing she wants to change is the fact that the DEO still has other kids like her trapped in their facilityâshe wants to show them the outside world so they can also decide for themselves what kind of life they want to lead. Red Tornado approves, and says the other heroes would, too. Secret is glad, and says that thatâs really what sheâd come to the headquarters to ask Young Justice about, if she hadnât run into Red Tornado first. Red Tornado invites her to wait in the cave to talk to the team, and they should be back soon. She says sheâll take the invitation, but needs to check on a few things first, and asks Tornado to let the boys know sheâll be back.
Okay, so yes, very good to get the background on issue four, Iâm very glad I got this particular blank filled, and yes Iâm still mad at whoever named this comic. It shouldâve just been Secret Files and Origins parts one and two, in my opinion. But whatever. But yeah, it was a really fun read and I think very useful to understand the characters on a little bit of a deeper level, individually. I was also thinking about how all of them mostly have like, some problem or some sort of like turmoil that theyâre dealing with surrounding their nightlives, but Tim is just like, âYup love being Robin, always have always will, donât really have any negative feelings about it right now! Just chilling with my cool older bro!â Like, good for you Tim, you absurdly well-adjusted child. I also just wanna mention that all three of the male charactersâfour if you include Red Tornadoâhad or have their own long-running solo series, and none of the female characters do. Which really sucks. I mean, Steph does, if you count Batgirl, but thatâs post-reboot so⌠I donât count it. Cissie never gets her own book, which I meanâfor obvious reasons that I shall not name now. And Cassie doesnât get her own book until 2007 which is pretty egregious if you ask me. Obviously Secret is made just for Young Justice, so⌠Sucks, guys. The misogyny. Itâs everywhere, unfortunately.
But yeah so thatâs the end of the comic, sorry to end on kind of a sour note, but I did enjoy the read. Thanks again for your patience with me figuring out this podcast thing, and definitely let me know what you guys thought about this issue in the comments, via email, or on social media; thatâs all yjupodcast all one word across all platforms. All links will always be in the description or show notes below. Make sure to subscribe to the pod wherever youâre listening, and Iâll catch you guys week after next, remember Iâm skipping a week, but Iâll be back then with Secret Files! Thank you for listening and remember, itâs not Young Justice, itâs Young, Just Us!
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New Episode is Live! (Secret Origins)
It's finally here! Apologies for the delay, I just kept having things go wrong this week BUT we prevailed. In this episode we went back in time to see how the members of our team got to where they are in issue four of Young Justice. Hope you guys enjoy! Available as always on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or on the RSS feed.
The panels I grabbed this week are below the cut!
Todayâs no-context-panel is Steph almost killing her dad, which sometimes you must do. Get out of her way, Bruce, itâs kill your dad Saturday, and tomorrow weâll review and discuss the Secret Origins 80-Page Giant!
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Todayâs no-context-panel is Steph almost killing her dad, which sometimes you must do. Get out of her way, Bruce, itâs kill your dad Saturday, and tomorrow weâll review and discuss the Secret Origins 80-Page Giant!
Hiiii next episode will be a day late again because I decided to cover a different issue than I was planning on 𤧠Sorry again but make sure to tune in on Sunday for the Secret Origins 80-Page Giant!!
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Episode 4 Transcript!
Here ya go!
[INTRO]
Hello, and welcome back to the Young, Just Us! Podcast! My name is Roman and Iâm doing an issue-by-issue deep-dive into the 1998 run of DC Comicsâ Young Justice.
Apologies for missing last week; I was kind of weirdly busy and didnât plan my time well, but going forward Iâm going to try and plan everything better and really commit to staying on schedule! And if I do need to take a week off Iâll definitely make a post in advance letting you guys know. Weâre picking up where we left off last week and will be discussing issue four of Young Justice, which is our first issue with the girls of YJ, so I hope youâre excited!Â
A couple things before we begin; I answered a couple of asks on the Tumblr, so first of all thank you for interacting and please donât be shy; Iâd love to chat over there or through emailâthatâs [email protected] once again. Second of all, one of the asks very helpfully let me know that Young Justice didnât actually skip the month of September in 1998, rather they released a tie-in issue for the DC One Million event, so the Young Justice #1000000 issue did in fact come out on September 2nd, 1998. I did actually know that this issue existed, as well as the fact that lots of other DC series had an issue one million, but I just somehow didnât connect it to the actual DC One Million event, so I had planned on covering it at some later date. But, thank you to that anon for the information, and I will be covering Young Justice #1000000 between issues 5 and 6. Next week will actually be Secret Files, because thatâs what chronologically follows here, and I feel so dumb that I skipped 1000000 but you know, hopefully this will still be okay. Iâll be posting a schedule on the Tumblr of what issues Iâll cover in the next month, so hopefully thatâll be helpful if youâre reading along with me or if youâd just like to know ahead of time where the podcast will be.Â
Anyway, last week we covered issue three of Young Justice, where we met a college-aged Mr. Mxyzptlk, stopped him from becoming Supermanâs tormentor in his future, and then frantically made him reverse that decision, because apparently it was important to the balance of the New Earth timestream. In other words, there was this load-bearing beam that they shouldnât have removed⌠Meanwhile, Red Tornado reunited with his adopted daughter Traya, and chased off some bullies for her before apparently recommitting to fatherhood. Robin and Superboy had another argument, Bart had a great time, and they saved the world with the power of the Three Stooges. This week weâll be discussing issue four, which I will begin doing now.Â
[YOUNG JUSTICE #4]
Issue four of Young Justice is titled Harmâs Way and was released on November 4, 1998. It was written by Peter David, pencilled by Todd Nauck, inked by Lary Stucker, colored by Jason Wright, and lettered by Ken Lopez. Panel separations were done by art studio Digital Chameleon, and Eddie Berganza is credited as editor with Frank Berrios as assistant editor. The usual suspects, plus Frank, everyone say âHi, Frank.â Todd Nauck and Lary Stucker contributed to the cover art which I will be displaying on-screen in the YouTube version of this episode right now, but if youâre just listening donât worry because I will describe it: The cover depicts Wonder Girl, Secret, and Arrowette at what is presumably Young Justiceâs base in the old JLA headquarters cave, the entrance to which has been boarded up. Impulse, Robin, and Superboy are in shadow behind the boards, with only their eyes and mouths visible, plus Superboyâs straight earring and Impulseâs hands peeking over one of the boards. A few things are written on the boards in red paint, including: He-Man Woman Haters, Keep Out, No Girls, and Danger! Danger! No Trespassing. Some of Arrowetteâs arrows are also embedded in the wood, and she has another one nocked, while Wonder Girl has a tough expression and a clenched fist, and Secret is trying to get inside the cave. Below the main Young Justice title is the subtitle: Now With Added Girl Power!?!Â
This is a really cute cover, though I do feel it kind of leads the reader astray in terms of the actual content of this issueâthe cover sort of implies that the boys will have an objection to letting girls join Young Justice, perhaps even on the basis of them being girls, but no such thing really happens in the issue; everyoneâs pretty chill. But, you know, they want to put something on the shelves thatâs eye-catching, something that sells, I get it. I do kind of wish the idea of YJ being a sort of boysâ club was explored a little more in the actual series, though, like if the boys did actually have any feelings about letting girls or even just other teen heroes in general join the team, or if the girls felt a little out-of-place or unwelcomed. But then I guess you might have to address the obvious and rampant sexism in comics in general, which I suppose Iâm glad an all-male creative team did not take it upon themselves to get into in the year of 1998. So, perhaps for the best. Although, that being said, I do think the addition of the girls is handled with relative care and itâs like not as⌠like, âWhoa! A girl in our team!â Like it could also very easily have gone in that direction, which would have been worse than what we get, which is like, a relative like, âYeah! You know, theyâre also heroes⌠itâs fine.â So, I think that that it is also another way to go about it that is totally valid and I do appreciate the way that the female heroes are treated by the boys, like, maybe with the exception of Superboy but, you know, to be expected I guess. Um, but yeah, they could have like, made a big like, thing about it like, âBut she had boobs! How can she join our team?!â You know what I mean? So Iâm glad it didnât go that direction, and uh, it all feels pretty realistic to like, they still feel like teenagers? But they handle the situation with the maturity you would hope that teen superheroes would have. So, gotta give credit where itâs due.
The synopsis for this issue on DC Universe Infinite reads:
New members join the team: Wonder Girl, Secret and Arrowette! After discovering an injured Arrowette, the team heads down a path that puts them directly in Harm's way! Can they stop the villain before he strikes again?Â
Great synopsis, canât blame them for using the "Harm's wayâ pun so much; itâs a great pun.
Iâm going to get into the comic now so feel free to read along, just listen, or watch the YouTube version where you can see select panels Iâve pulled from this issue.
We open on the title page, which is something of a rarityâusually we have a couple pages before the title page, so, pretty coolâArrowette appears to be beaten up with an arrow in her shoulder, and sheâs saying âWait a minute⌠This⌠This isnât funny.â A shadow falls over her as she falls to the ground, commenting on her non-sequitor and saying that it indeed is not funny at all. Arrowetteâs attacker drags a blade along her chin and tells her she wasnât worth his time, even with all her training. He lets her live, though, and tells her to tell Impulse and all teen heroes to, quote, âStay out of Harmâs way.â She tries to get up and face him again, but he just laughs her off and walks away. She starts calling for help, and then remembers no one comes when you say that, so she starts yelling âFire!â and the silhouette of the Super-Cycle appears above her.
I suppose that Arrowetteâs line about, âThis isnât funny!â is sort of lampshading the darker tone of this first pageâlike, having read all or most of Young Justice, I havenât thought of it as an exclusively comedic series in a long time, but I do suppose that thatâs the main tone of the first few issues, definitely. And a lot of the series is, like, quite funny; thereâs a big focus on jokes and comedy. The Arrowette costume is⌠look, I wish she could wear pants. Itâs a step up from her motherâs old costume, I suppose, but, you know. I just never buy that female superheroes wouldnât wear their hair up. Wonder Woman gets a pass, I guess, likeâsheâs a demigod, whatever, but if I have long blonde hair and Iâm shooting arrows like⌠Thatâs a slick-back bun type situation, you know what I mean? But anyway, her line about the fact that no one comes if you call for help is actually really funny, I like it a lot. I think Iâll talk more about Harm later on, but he certainly seems frightening in this scene, and we do get the very first drop of âstay out of Harmâs way,â which weâll be hearing quite a few more times, so. Great stuff.Â
Meanwhile, in Pamplona, Spain, itâs the Fiesta de San Fermin where citizens race against bulls through the townâs narrow streets. The caption urges the reader to forgive the fact that the festival takes place in summer and last issue was Halloween. A thief named Tora has stolen jewels from a courier. The editorâs note on this page reads: âAnd yes, we also know that âtoraâ is a Japanese war cry and has zip to do with Spain, matadors, or cattle. But it was either that or âLotta Bullâ so count your blessings.â Tora plans on riding the bulls to her getaway plane, but Impulse catches up with her. Apparently, sheâs been on a tear of bull-related crimes, including china shop and Wall Street robberies. They engage in bull-related punning before she tries to get away with her bullwhip, but Superboy catches it. She seems to be defeated, but then she points out that Superboy might want to stop a plane from crashing into the crowd. He swears, which is marked by an asterisk which leads to an editorâs note that says, âInsert current popular but unprintable teen profanity here,â and Superboy takes off, Tora once again getting away, but then a Batarang hits her in the jaw, letting Impulse capture her once again.
So, I felt compelled to do quite a bit of fact-checking here, just in case. The Fiesta de San Fermin or the Festival of Saint Fermin is a week-long festival held in July, specifically July seventh to July fourteenth every year, in Pamplona, Navarre, Spain. There are a ton of events during this festival, but the running of the bulls happens every day at eight AM, and itâs kind of the most famous event. Iâve only done basic research on this so please correct me if Iâm wrong, but I wouldnât really characterize this as a âraceâ against the bulls? Itâs more of like, ârunning amongst the bulls?â Basically this was a way to just actually physically move the bulls from outside of the city which is where they were bred and raised, into the bullring in the city which is where the afternoon bullfighting, another event of the festival, would take place. So originally the bull run wasnât even an event, it was just like, âThis is how we get the bulls into the city." But citizens basically ran in front of or beside the bulls for fun or to show their bravery or courage; this was in the early 1900s when the festival was being established. You could do it to impress your girlfriend, basically. Then it just kind of became tradition. So, yeah, not really a race, I wouldnât say?
Moving onto the thief herself, Tora, here. âToraâ being a Japanese warcry is⌠not correct. Or, itâs a lot more complicated than that. The idea comes from the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, where Japanese pilot Mitsuo Fuchida supposedly yelled âTora! Tora! Tora!â as he led the assault, and this idea was then popularized by the 1970 war film called âTora! Tora! Tora!â which was a dramatization and reenactment of Pearl Harbor. So⌠in Japanese the word âtoraâ literally means âtiger,â but from my researchâand I could not find any primary sources for this so definitely take it with a grain of saltâbut apparently Japanese commander Tadakazu Yoshioka pre-arranged codes because the Japanese pilots were outfitted with telegraphs rather than microphones, so he chose easily recognizable morse code signals which were âto,â which was to signal the attack, and âra,â which would signal that the attack was successful/that the US soldiers had not caught on, therefore the attack had unfolded as planned, as a surprise. So, to signal the attack, Fuchida instructed his radio operator to send the coded signal âto, to, to,â meaning âstart attack.â And once sure the bombs had dropped, Fuchida sent along the infamous âto raâ message, indicating like, âattack complete/attack was a surprise/all good.â âToraâ being the word for tiger in Japanese was pure coincidence, and that phrase has not been used in basically any other context, anywhere, at all. So, itâs really not accurate to call it a âJapanese warcry.â It was a product of the specific environment and circumstances of Pearl Harbor, and this idea that itâs a Japanese warcry has been popularized and spread, but, this is not correct, from my research.Â
What I believe they were actually going for was a feminine version of the Spanish word for bull, which is toro, though the actual form presented here, tora, is not a word in Spanish. Itâs the same way that we have a different name for female bulls in Englishâwhich is âcowsââSpanish calls female bulls, or cows, vacas. Iâm not saying this is a mistake, they clearly knew a lot of this stuff was silly or inaccurate as indicated by the editorâs notes, and âLotta Bullâ is a way worse name than Tora, so, fair. But all of thisâthe timeline discrepancy of the last issue having been Halloween and this one ostensibly taking place during this festival in the summer, the name (I mean like, they couldnât have just made it a male villain named Toro?), it all just seems like a lot to finagle and set up just for like, five bull puns. Like, the fact that all of this happens during this festival is inconsequential, and this whole side plot with Tora is⌠first of all her only appearance, ever in any comic, ever. And second of all, this isnât even like, the main plot of the comic? We get back to Happy Harbor pretty quickly. I guess itâs just to show that Fite ânâ Maad are like, still tracking them, and they followed them to Spain, I guess. But, I wonder why they were so set on this storyline, like, it seems like they couldâve just done like a way easier version of it. Maybe they were really attached to Toraâs design or something.Â
I do think all the bull jokes are really funny, though, and the china shop and Wall Street robbery jokes are really funnyâif you donât know, thereâs an English idiom to express indelicacy, to say something or someone is âlike a bull in a china shop,â and on Wall Street thereâs a large bronze bull statue which symbolizes financial prosperity; the stock market is also called the âbullmarketâ sometimes. So, lots of bull stuff, and then Impulse telling her sheâs going to the bullpen⌠that got a snort out of me, not gonna lie.
Just a note about a portion of dialogue here⌠itâs marked with angle brackets to indicate itâs being translated from another language, in this case Spanish, and in the translated dialogue, there are Spanish words, like, Tora says, âSorry, seĂąor jewel courierâŚâ Now, this isnât wrong, per se; in translation there are two different strategies called domestication and foreignization. You might also know domestication as localizationâthatâs basically trying to naturalize translated text in the target language; this includes coming up with comparable idioms, like, for example in Korean thereâs an idiom for an easy or simple task: âëěě ëĄë¨šę¸°â which means, âItâs like eating rice cake lying down.â So that would probably be domesticated or localized as âA piece of cake.â Foreignization aims to keep elements of the original language, sometimes foreign words or⌠like, a foreignized translation of the previous example would probably keep the original idiom of âeating rice cake lying down,â just written in English rather than Korean. I tend to generally lean toward foreignization, but it really depends on the specific origin text and the purpose of the translation⌠Like, I would usually go with domesticated translation for childrenâs media, over foreignized. Anyway, you could say that the translations here are foreignized, but I tend to be of the opinion that if a word has a direct analogue in the target language, that word should be used⌠if I had translated Toraâs line, for example, I wouldâve just had her say âSorry, mister jewel courierâŚâ rather than âSeĂąor jewel courier,â but also the target audience for YJ is quite young, so, you know. Itâs good to be exposed to other languages and cultures. Just a fun translation note I thought would be interesting since, you know, I got my Bachelorâs degree in linguistics and I occasionally need to blow some dust off of that thang.Â
Okay, moving on, I love the panel of Superboy catching Toraâs bullwhip (Iâll put it on screen)âitâs just very dynamic and nice to look at⌠Superboyâs costume was so good and I cannot believe that they replaced it with that T-shirt! Like, what the heck? But, guys⌠have you seen the concept art for season three of My Adventures with Superman? I would know those sunglasses anywhere, our boy might be back! But I am worried about production on season three, âcause, those pictures came out like, two years ago, in 2024. Iâm like, âGuys⌠whereâs season three, I wonder! Getting kind of nervous here!â But, anyway! The âinsert current popular but unprintable teen profanity hereâ gag with Superboy is really funny, I wonder what he said. Please leave your guesses in the comments or shoot me an ask on Tumblr with your best â90s teen profanity that would also be in-character for Superboy to sayâ guess. They shouldâve just taken a shot at it, honestly, in my opinion, like, get Karl Kesel in here with his slang dictionary! Be brave!
It is kind of silly to me how committed Tim is to the whole urban legend bit⌠thisâll become more of an issue later but itâs just funny to like, wait in the shadows with a batarang at the ready. I guess thatâs kind of the whole Batman ethos, but still.Â
A little later, the police take Tora away and she delivers the classic Scooby-Doo villain line, âAnd I wouldâve gotten away with it, too, if it werenât for those meddling kids!â The police also congratulate them on a job well done, calling them âyoung caballeros,â and Impulse says he likes that name better than âYoung Justice.â Impulse and Superboy high-five, and just as they wonder where Robin is, he appears above them, on a rooftop. Impulse comments on how quickly the sun set at Robinâs entrance, and Robin asks if either of them have seen the Super-Cycle; apparently he whistled for it earlier, but it didnât come. Superboy says that Robin is the Cycleâs guiding mind so he should know, but Robin replies that while the Cycle may like him the best, it definitely has a mind of its own. Heâs interrupted, however, by Fite ânâ Maad, in matching sombreros, asking to have a word with the boys. Robin wonders how they show up everywhere they go, and Fite ânâ Maad say itâs just part of the job. Apparently they have a case they want to discuss with the boysâthey want to know where the âbottle girlâ is. The boys feign ignorance though theyâre all, of course, thinking of Secret. Robin whistles for the Super-Cycle to get out of the conversation, which actually shows up this time. Fite ânâ Maad try to warn them about how dangerous Secret is and that they may have to take âunpleasant stepsâ if the boys refuse to cooperate, but they leave anyway. Superboy tries to assure Robin that they have the situation completely under control and Fite ânâ Maad were just trying to scare them. When he looks into the backseat of the cycle though, he sees blood!
Alright, Impulseâs beef with the Young Justice name continues! Seriously what is his problem? Okay so I used the panel of Robin on the roof as the episode teaser this weekâitâs just really hilarious that in the panel before itâs fully daytime, and also remember the bullrun starts at eight AM during this festival, so it canât be afternoon yet, much less evening, and as soon as theyâre like, âWhereâs Rob?â Tim appears on the roof and itâs night time, and Impulse is like, âBoy it gets dark fast around here!â I love jokes like that.Â
Yes the Super-Cycle is busy helping Arrowette; I wonder why? I canât remember if thereâs an explanation for this, like, how it knew she was in trouble because itâs not like sheâs met the Cycle before⌠She only knows Impulse and Impulse isnât the âguiding mindâ like Robin is, so⌠I donât know! I guess the line about it having a mind of its own is supposed to account for that.Â
And, alright, the gag of Fite and Maad in matching cultural costumes according to their location is really growing on me. Like, in isolation it can seem kind of offensive, like in issue two with the⌠turbans, question mark? But if theyâre doing that literally everywhere they go it makes it funny to me. Like, thatâs just how they roll. It also plays into the gag of undercover cops being really obvious about being undercover cops, which is great. I do wonder, much like Tim, how theyâre tracking the boys⌠or if theyâre tracking the Super-Cycle, more accurately, because Iâm assuming the Cycle is how the boys got to Spain, and Fite and Maad did show up first on the digsite where the Cycle was unearthed, so maybe theyâre just tracking the Cycle. I also donât remember if they answer this laterâweâll see! I also wonder why they decided to confront them about Secret nowâlike, perhaps they just got some evidence that the boys definitely lied about Secret dying in Young Justice: The Secret. I think this might actually be answered next week in Secret Files, weâll see. But yeah, the panel of all of the boys having the thought bubbles of Secret while they lie to Fite and Maad is really cute, and itâs interesting that sheâs in different poses in the three thought-bubblesâlike, in Bart's, sheâs waving with a big smile, in Superboyâs, sheâs like, posed kind of sexily? And in Robinâs she looks quite serious. I think it definitely reflects how the three of them thought or think of her⌠Bartâs like, âOh, Secret? She was so nice!â and Superboyâs like, âSecret? She was kinda hotâŚâ and Robinâs like, âSecret⌠she was scary and powerful.â Very in character, I guess. When I first read this, I hadnât read Young Justice: The Secret, nor did I know it existed (thank you very much, disorganized DC Universe Infinite), so I was very lost there, like, âBottle girl? What are they talking about?â
I do love Impulseâs thought bubble though⌠not the Secret one, but when Agent Maad says they may have to take âunpleasant steps,â Bart says, âOh we wouldnât want that,â and imagines Agent Maad stepping off a cliff⌠uh, taking an âunpleasant step.â Itâs also funny that Superboy is sort of anti-cop here, talking to Robin like, âTheyâre just trying to psych us out, man!!! We got this under control!!â And then the blood reveal is pretty good. I love how Bart is always doing something random when heâs riding in the front seat of the Cycle, like here heâs going through what look like cassettes? And in issue two he was playing Connect 4, if I remember correctly. Great stuff from our ADHD king.Â
Elsewhere, Cassie Sandsmark as Wonder Girl is beating up some idiot jocks who were apparently tormenting a stray cat, which, once saved, proceeds to scratch Cassie for her trouble. Annoyed, she complains to herself that her superhero efforts never seem to lead to anything good, but a voice from a mysterious mist tells her that sheâs great. It turns out to be Secret, who tells her that she was hoping they could be friends, and that she could introduce Wonder Girl to some of her other friends. Wonder Girl isnât interested at first, but at the mention of Superboy she becomes very eager to meet the boys.
So yeah you can imagine having not read The Secret, I was very confused here but basically just rolling with it. Luckily, here at the YJU podcast we are well-informed and up-to-date on our lore for the most part. I will say that the first panel of Wonder Girl hereâitâs very cool, but, thereâs like, kicked-up dust obscuring her lower legs and I genuinely think itâs because Todd Nauck couldnât figure out this poseâbut her ankles just look so broken as a result of the placement of her feet? Itâs almost like he like, did a pose and then didnât like it and drew the other pose, but ran out of time so had to keep the feet of the first pose for the second pose. Like, just cover up the feet, too, you know what I mean? But yeah, that gets me every time I look at the panel, I canât unnotice it, Iâm just like, âDamn Cassie⌠your anklesâŚâ She also just looks generally so chopped in these early issuesâonce she loses the wig later on and gets her amazing red jeans that I want so bad, then weâll be cooking. Alas, weâll have to wait.Â
The scene with Secret is really cute, I just love our team finally getting togetherâI love the detail that when Secret introduces herself she says, âIâm called Secret,â not âI am Secret,â alluding to the fact that she does have a name, she just doesnât know it, and âSecretâ is just what the people she knows, and actually likes, call her. And Cassie saying sheâs named after a deodorant is quite funny. And then being like, âYour friends, whatâ?â What is it? âRight Guard, Old Spice, Ban?â I guess only Old Spice has stuck around. Some nineties deodorant brands for you, there. This is also the beginning of Cassieâs crush on Superboy, which Iâll definitely be tracking through the seriesâit actually doesnât get on my nerves too much, surprisingly.
In the next scene, in a suburban home, a mother and father worry over their seventeen year old son. Ellen, the mother, wants to get him therapy, but the father, Burt, insists that their son is lost to them and all they can do now is pray that he leaves and doesnât come back. Ellen* accuses Burt of being too scared to discipline him, and Burt says that he is, and reveals a scar on his throat that his son gave him, apparently nearly killing him. Ellen says he was only eleven when he did it, and Burt says thatâs exactly the problem. Their son then comes out of his room, and itâs the villain that hurt Arrowette in the first pages. He tells his parents that heâs going out, and Ellen* quietly encourages Burt, who tries to stand up and tell their son that his curfew is 11:00 PM. Their son, Harm, finds this âdrollâ and says that he already lets them live; they shouldnât press their luck. Burt and Ellen* cry together after he leaves.Â
Okay, so this is like, one of the funniest scenes ever to me, like⌠The first time I read this I was hysterical⌠The reveal that Harm is seventeen years old is just so insane and hilarious to me. Like, the guy? The guy we saw in the beginning? Heâs not, like, an assassin from the League of Shadows? Heâs literally just some seventeen-year-old edgelord living in the suburbs?! It gets less funny once we learn the backstory later but, god, this reveal just kills me bro⌠like, me when I learn the word âdroll.â âA curfew, how droll,â like shut up bro⌠Get back in that house Billy, you have an algebra test tomorrow, bro. Put that sword down! I do feel bad for Burt and Ellen* but also you simply must call the cops on him⌠like you simply must!
The boys get back to the cave in the bloodied Super-Cycle, and Red Tornado meets them, saying they have a situation, and leads them down to the medlab, where the injured Arrowette is laying on a cot. Red Tornado says that the Cycle brought her there and she said she knew Impulse, who indeed recognizes her, and that she requested no one call the police or take her to a hospital. Arrowette explains that she doesnât want the trouble from her mother and the school she goes to. Red Tornado explains that the arrow went in with near-surgical precision, but itâll be difficult to remove without hurting her more. Impulse jumps in, though, vibrating the arrow to pass it harmlessly out of Arrowetteâs shoulder. She thanks him, and Robin begins wrapping her shoulder while she explains what happened. Apparently she received a letter addressed to her civilian identity, though the sender also knew her superhero identity, and it said the sender wanted to tip her off to a crime ring, and instructed her to meet them. She did, against her better judgment, and thatâs when the villain attacked. She instinctively didnât try to use her trick arrows, so used a standard one to try to pin the villainâs cape to the wall, but he caught it and threw it back at her, with speed comparable to Impulse; it went through her shoulder. She explains that he called himself Harm, and that he asked her to tell other teen heroes to stay out of his way. Superboy immediately takes off to take out Harm, despite Robinâs protests and Impulseâs annoyance, telling Robin that he took down plenty of bad guys as a solo act, and one more wonât hurt.Â
So, Bart makes a Boys are Back in Town reference when they get back to the cave which is great⌠Bartâs taste in music is so funny like, yes to Thin Lizzy but no to Hanson. Actually kind of cultured of him, if you think about it. I also canât tell if Red Tornado is being sarcastic or not during this interaction where heâs like, âIt appears, lads, that we have a situation on our hands,â and Tim says, âDown in the medlab, Iâll bet. Thereâs blood all over the Super-Cycle.â And then Red Tornado is like, âWell done, young Holmes, clearly you were trained by the worldâs greatest detective.â Like, is he being like, âYeah no DUH Robin,â or is he genuinely like, âExcellent deduction, Tim!â Let me know what you think. I think heâs being genuine, but, just like, the way that, like, some of the words are italicized, you know, the way that comics do, and I was like, âThat sounds kind of sarcastic to me.â
Itâs really cute that Cissie asked for Bart and he immediately recognizes her and personally helps her get the arrow out. I recently read the Impulse issue where they meet, and, yeah it makes total sense that she wouldnât want to get the police involved since her custody situation is so complicated, to say the least. Itâs also just nice when things carry over from other series. Uh, guys, has anyone thought of this before? You could make an entire interconnected universe⌠itâs almost like this is the entire concept that the modern comics industry is predicated upon! But yeah, Impulse vibrating the arrow out is so freaking cool like, god, I just love speedster powersets and Bartâs in particular is so sick. Also a little moment of trust here between Timbart, where Superboy is going to stop Bart before he can start with the arrow, but Robin says itâs okay and Bart knows what heâs doing, very sweet!
But yes all of this stuff with Harm is very mysterious⌠the surgical precision of the arrow entrance and speed with which he threw it points to superstrength, so possibly a metahuman⌠and him knowing Arrowetteâs secret identity is also quite concerning. Just noting all this for the future!
And guys. Look, I know I say this in literally every single episode⌠but Superboy is the Id. Heâs always rushing off to do what he wants to do, and the joke where Impulse is like, âBoy, donât you hate it when people just take off and do whatever they feel like?â And then everyone just looks at himâit isnât even that much of a joke, because yes, Bart does that, sort of, but he also 1) Did not do that this time when he has plenty reason to, since he personally knows Arrowette, and 2) He usually does listen quite intently to what Robin tells him to do, and he does it! And look, Iâm sure my perspective is a little skewed because I havenât read a ton of the Impulse series, where Iâm sure his no-pun-intended impulsivity is much more obviously an issue, and itâs sort of curbed here in Young Justice where heâs put into contrast with Superboy, so I donât disagree that Impulse is the Id, like, generally, in his life or in a lot of other situations, but the whole point of Red Tornadoâs explanation in issue one was to show how and why theyâre a good team, and Freudâs model of the psyche is all about how the Id, Ego, and Superego relate to each other and function in concert with each other. So all Iâm really saying is that, in Young Justice, in these early issues especially, Superboy is functionally the Id, in contrast to Robin who is functionally the Superego, in contrast to Impulse who functions as an in-between in this particular team, in these particular circumstances. Itâs like how, if you have like, blue-green eyes, if you wear a green shirt they look more green, if you wear a blue shirt they look more blue. So like, Impulse in his life with Max Mercury is way more the Id, but when heâs in Young Justice, heâs the Ego. Like, two things can be true, you know what I mean? Now, things are obviously about to change with the girls joining the team, and that dynamic will shift, so you wonât have to hear me rave about this much more probably, but, thatâs my thesis statement for early Young Justice. Jot it down. Thank you for putting up with hearing it multiple times. Moving on!
Wonder Girl and Secret are headed to the cave headquarters, Secret assuring Wonder Girl that the boys wonât mind if they just show up. Suddenly a metal device attaches itself to her leg, dragging her down. Itâs from a car below them, and inside it is Harm. In the captions, he speaks to something called the âBook of Blood,â and his newest entry is Wonder Girl; heâs cataloguing her strengths and weaknesses. The metal hook is attached to Harmâs car, and pulls Wonder Girl along with it, slamming her into a bridge that he drives under. Secret goes into the car to confront Harm and tells him to let Wonder Girl go, but Harm electrocutes her and she seeps out of the car. He enters her, also, into the Book of Blood. Then, Harm notices his car being pulled backward by Superboy, and is excited at the prospect of a real challenge. Meanwhile Superboy is helping Wonder Girl, detaching the metal device from her. He introduces himself, and Cassie is lovestruck when she realizes whoâs helping her. They have a flirty exchange but Secret interrupts, trying to warn them about Harm, though sheâs not fast enough, and Harm throws his sword. Superboy catches it, and wonders aloud how Harm will do when heâs not fighting girls. Harm rightfully calls him a chauvinist and a big-mouth, and the sword that Superboy caught sprays gas into his mouth. Harm kicks Superboy and says, âAs I thought. My studies are correct. Your powers stem from concentration. Interrupt that and youâre innocuous enough.â Wonder Girl tries to go after him again, but Harm easily dispatches her, pointing out that sheâs already taken a beating and is running on fumes. He looks for Secret but leaves in his car when he hears police sirens. He says, âOh. Sirens. The constabulary. Fitting, I suppose. The superheroes saved by the mundane police force.â When the police get there, everyoneâs gone, and we see that Fite ânâ Maad also arrive, convinced that Secret was there.
Okay, so, things we know about Harm, so far, Iâd just, uh, like to go down the list. He calls himself âHarm,â unironically, perhaps for the sole purpose of being able to tell people to âStay out of Harmâs way.â He tried to kill his father at eleven years old. He is seventeen years old currently, and drives a knockoff Batmobile, he has immense disdain for superheroes and talks to something called the âBook of Blood.â Lovely. Just making sure weâre all on the same page. Oh and he uses words like âdrollâ and calls the police âthe constabulary,â also unironically. God I hate him. He does get points for calling Superboy a big-mouthed chauvinist, though, like, yes, he kills people but at least heâs a feminist I guess?
I love Secretâs impression of the boys being like, âYeah, theyâre super chill trust me, they faked my death for me!â Not that thatâs wrong, but itâs cute how much trust she puts in them. And it is so awful to see her get electrocuted with the knowledge of her backstory like⌠Billy, when I get you, broâŚ!
Okay I also have a question for you guys⌠do you think Superboy clocked Cassieâs crush here, and do you think he reciprocates her feelings in a genuine way at any point, throughout the series? Just curious what your guysâs takes are on that. Itâs also interesting to point out how reliant or connected Superboyâs TTK is to his concentration⌠like, even when Supermanâs unconscious, heâs still invulnerable and, but itâs a lot more complicated for Superboy, which sucks.Â
In the last scene, all six of our heroes are safely back at the cave, and Cassie feels a little jealous about Superboy checking up on Arrowette rather than her. Robin scolds Superboy for taking off by himself earlier, but Superboy blows up on him, saying that if heâd waited then Wonder Girl mightâve died. They argue, but Secret interrupts, saying that she brought them all together because she needs their help to free her fellow extra-normal friends from the DEO before itâs too late.
So, this is tough because I usually agree with Robin in these arguments, but Superboy does kind of have a point here? What do you guys think? I love how when theyâre fighting, Secretâs like, âYeah, could you guys, like, stop arguing about useless stuff for two seconds? I'm kind of on a really important mission here.â Like, fair! And yes, canât wait to do Secret Files, which this story will lead into, and that will be next week, episode 4.5. I love that issue, so definitely look forward to it!
But yeah, thatâs the end of this issue! I think I said everything I wanna say, let me know what you guys thought in the comments, via email, or on social media; thatâs all yjupodcast all one word across all platforms. All links will always be in the description or show notes below. Make sure to subscribe to the pod wherever youâre listening, stay out of Harmâs way, and Iâll catch you guys next week! Thank you for listening and remember, itâs not Young Justice, itâs Young, Just Us!
[*I accidentally call Ellen âEileenâ a couple of times, but her name is Ellen in the comic.]

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New Episode is Live! (YJ #4)
New episode my friends! Sorry again about last week, but this ep is a little longer so hopefully that makes up for it :) This week my fact-checking mission took me to Pamplona, Pearl Harbor, and then back to YJ HQ. Phew! Hope you guys enjoy! Available as always on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or on the RSS feed.
The panels I grabbed this week from YJ #4 are below the cut!
Itâs no-context-panel Friday! Does Tim Drake qualify as a meta due to being able to spontaneously make it night time for a dramatic entrance? đ¤ Find out on tomorrowâs episode where Iâll discuss Young Justice #4!
Hi everyone, something came up for me so I will have to push the episode to Sunday đ˘ Apologies but I will see you all then! â¤ď¸
Okay well the episode will come out when it comes out đŤ Iâm very sorry my week has just been awful. I will work hard to get back on schedule!
sorry i was also going to ask! do you think you will cover the young justice issue of dc 1,000,000? i think it came out in the gap between issue #2 and issue #3 of yj! (and thatâs why it seems like they skipped a month!)
ughhhhhh see this is why shit should be better organized on dcui âŚ. okay yes i had known about issue 1000000 but for some reason assumes it had come out post-series? but yes this makes more sense that there Was a dc om tie in with yj thank you for letting me know đ
that being said yes i will cover it!!! there are a lot of off-shoots/one-shots/crossover tie-ins that arenât directly related to the plot of YJ so i basically have them vaulted for a rainy day or scheduled for a place i think they might naturally fall between regular issues. but now that i Know about this iâll do 1000000 very soon probably between issues 5 and 6 or something? iâll definitely post about it when i do so look forward and thank you for the info and for liking the podcast! â¤ď¸
loving the podcast so much!
collegeâaged mr mxyzptlk is so funny. it reminds me of when they had a high school-aged version of him on smallville đ i havenât seen MAWS yet but now iâm going to watch it for blue twink mxy.
hey thanks so much!! iâm watching smallville rn and cant wait to get to that omg hrhekdks yeah the MAWS version is uh. sure is something! def lmk what u think lol

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Episode 3 Transcript!
Had so much fun, see you guys tomorrow for a no-context panel from issue #4!
[INTRO]
Hello, and welcome back to the Young, Just Us! Podcast! My name is Roman and Iâm doing an issue-by-issue deep-dive into the 1998 run of DC Comicsâ Young Justice.
I hope youâre all doing well this week, no housekeeping or updates, really, so letâs just jump right in! Last week we covered issue two, in which we went to an unspecified Middle Eastern country, met sheik Ali Ben Styn, parody of Ben Stein, while Robin, Superboy, Impulse, and later Red Tornado, were all dragged along by their newly acquired Super-Cycle to complete its last programmed task: free its previous owner, the villain Rip Roar from Apokolips. Turns out Rip Roar stole the Super-Cycle (which also conveniently turns out to be what itâs actually called) from the gods of New Genesis, and they imprisoned him as punishment. Not so, anymore! He wanted the Cycle back, but he wasnât a very good owner, so the Cycle decided to stick with the boys. The sheik offered the boys anything they wanted in return for saving his life and defeating Rip Roar, and Impulse did ask for something but we donât know what that is yet. Oh, and special agents Fite and Maad from the DEO were there, also, for some reason.
I just wanted to say that in last weekâs episode I was kind of troubling the Ben Stein parody as a possible anti-semitic stereotype, but I wasnât really thinking about Peter Davidâs own Jewish heritage (the writer of the comic), and I know that playing into stereotypes in creative settings can be part of the experience of minority identities, and again that was something Ben Stein himself also did quite a bit, and Iâm not Jewish myself soâyou know, in retrospect I donât personally think that that was done in anti-semitic spirit or anything, but also my opinion about it isnât super relevant. I do stand by the islamophobia, though, that was quite troubling, I think.
Anyway, this week weâll be discussing issue three, which I like a lot more than the first two, so letâs get into it!
[YOUNG JUSTICE #3]
The third issue of Young Justice is titled, quite cheekily, âThe Issue Before the One Where the Girls Show Up!â Indeed, Wonder Girl and Arrowette as well as Secret will finally appear in the main series next issue, so definitely look forward to that! But this issue was published on October 7, 1998, so they actually skipped a month because issue two came out in AugustâI did some research and I believe that this was because DC was releasing DC One Million during the month of September, which was a huge crossover event, so no doubt Young Justiceâs can kind of got kicked down the road a bit, but thatâs okay; weâre back just in time for a Halloween special! This issue was written by Peter David, pencilled by Todd Nauck, inked by Lary Stucker, colored by Jason Wright, lettered by Ken Lopez, edited by Eddie Berganza, and panel separations were done by art studio Digital Chameleon as usual. Todd Nauck, Lary Stucker, and Patrick Martin contributed to the cover art, which I will be displaying on screen in the YouTube version of this episode right now, but if youâre just listening donât worry because I will describe it: Robin, Superboy, and Impulse are in ill-fitting Halloween costumes of their JLA analoguesâRobin in a Batman costume, Superboy in a Superman costume, and Impulse in a Flash costume. Theyâre on Mr. Mxyzptlkâs doorstep, and Robin is telling the other two, âYou had to say âtrick or treat!ââ Impulse is holding a rock or possibly a lump of coal rather than candy, ostensibly the âtrickâ that Mr. Mxyzptlk delivered him as punishment for not saying the magic Halloween words. The doorway opens into the open space of the universe, and Mr. Mxyzptlk is holding a bowl of candy and turning to the reader, saying, âAnd wait until you see what I really do to them inside!â And the cover also has an orange sticker under the main âYoung Justiceâ title that advertises a âHalloween scare with Mr. Mxyzptlk!âÂ
Itâs a cute cover and I really like how it continues the theme of Young Justice being compared to the JLAâthe boys in the literal ill-fitting suits of their counterparts is very evocative and of course also fits the Halloween theme really well. Them dealing with a classic Superman villain also plays into thatâthe idea of them being ill-equipped to deal with a quote-unquote âgrown-upâ villain (even though they donât, really, as youâll see in the comic).
The synopsis for this issue on DC Universe Infinite reads:
Meet Mr. Mxyzptlk, a studious young scholar of the 5th Dimension! Wait, that can't be right. Reality warping and time travel hijinks ensue when a group of magicians accidentally brings a young Mxyzptlk into the real world during Halloween!
Very funny; I love when synopses kind of play into thatâtheyâre like, âWait, that canât be right!â Iâm going to get into the comic now so feel free to read along, just listen, or watch the YouTube version where you can see select panels Iâve pulled from this issue.
We open on Halloween night, the captions referencing the pagan origins of the holiday, and that some, rather than trick-or-treating, take Halloween much more seriously. Hooded figures chant in Latin, then declaring that theyâre tapping into the science-magic core of the multiverse. Theyâre all on computers which are all connected to a big printer in the middle of a summoning circle. Theyâre apparently attempting to access techno-magic from another dimension and bring it into this one. The spell-code theyâre performing doesnât work at first but they retry and a bolt of lighting hits the printer through a skylight, frying all of the computers, but making the printer print out an image of Mr. Mxyzptlk, which quickly comes to life. This, however, seems to be a younger version of Mr. Mxy, still in college, evidently; he says that this is a great opportunity to pursue his thesis on three-dimensional primitive life-forms, though he must remember the sound advice of his professors and not have any fun doing it.
Okay, so the Latin that the occultists are chanting is basically four random but commonly used terms, the first being Res ipsa loquitur which translates to: âThe thing speaks for itself.â This is a common law doctrine that says a court can basically infer things about a case from the nature of the case itselfâfor example, in the case of a child suffering starvation, the situation in itself suggests neglect from the childâs parent or guardian, because legally a child cannot starve themself, someone else has to have starved the child. Sorry for that kind of dark example, but moving on. The second Latin phrase is Pax vobiscum which means âPeace be with you,â anyone who is Catholic or familiar with the comedian John Mulaney probably knows this is used in Catholic mass. The answering phrase used to be âAnd also with you,â but now many churches have adopted âAnd with your spiritâ instead. The third phrase is Pro bono publica which is also a legal term, more commonly transliterated as Pro bono publico, meaning âFor the good of the people.â Youâve probably heard of lawyers or other professionals working âpro bono,â just meaning that theyâre working without pay, i.e., only for the good of the people. The fourth phrase is Res judicata, also a legal term, meaning âJudged matter,â or âThis matter has been judged;â in court judges use this to deny or preclude further appeals or relitigations of a particular case. After that, they start speaking Yiddish, as far as I can tell, and I couldnât find a good translationâor any translation, for that matter; I mean, part of the problem is that itâs transliterated into the Roman alphabet instead of being written in Hebrew, so I wouldnât know where to start in looking it up, you know? I did learn that âZai gesundtâ is like a farewell interjectionâit literally means be healthy, and thatâs one of the things they say, but Iâm afraid Iâm no help for the rest of it, so I really encourage any Yiddish speakers to shoot me an email; I majored in linguistics in college, so this stuff always interests me quite a bit. Moving on.
A good joke in here is that when the spell doesnât work the first time, one of the cultists says, âThe three horsemen of the computer age plague us once more: abort, retry, or fail!â And one of the others tells them to hit retry, and theyâre like, âOh, like that ever helps.â Pretty good early computer jokes.
But moving to the star of the show here, Mr. Mxyzptlk. Okay, if youâve never heard of this guy, donât worry because I hadnât either when I first read this issue. He is a classic Superman villain created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, you mightâve heard those names before. He was and still is an imp from the fifth dimension, normally depicted as a little old man imp-fairy-goblin-thing. Although, he was recently TWINKIFIED in the My Adventures with Superman animated show. When I saw that episode I was genuinely like, âWhat is this thing, I donât know this Superman character,â and then he was like, âIâm Mr. Mxyzptlk,â and I was like, âWHAT?!?!?!?! Why are you a blue twink!!!â I didnât not like it, I was just shocked! Wild stuff. You know, sometimes the animators on My Adventures with Superman really show their Voltron: Legendary Defender roots⌠But anyway back to business, Mr. Mxyzptlkâand sometimes people just say âMr. Mxy,â so I will also do that sometimes because I donât want to say Mxyzptlk fifty more times on this episodeâMr. Mxy originally discovered our world/the third dimension by reading a book and initially came to take over the world but then he discovered that tormenting Superman was so much fun that he was good with just doing that. He was usually defeated by being tricked into saying his own name backwards, which would send him back to the fifth dimension for 90 days minimum.
These kinds of language-based rules and tricks come up a lot with creatures of Mr. Mxyâs ilkâthat is, fairies, imps, goblins, etc. I have a suspicion that Mr. Mxy as a character takes a lot of inspiration from Rumpelstiltskin; I couldnât find an actual source for this, but I mean. In the original fairy tale Rumpelstiltskin was described as an imp or a dwarf, only his name can be used to defeat him, you get it. Fun fact, Iâm mixed, half black and half white, and my mom, who is white, I guess thought that it was really important for me and my sister to see, like, diverse people in our childrenâs books, so all of my childrenâs books that my mom would read to me as a kid are like, kind of off-brand retellings, I mean, in a good way, like, theyâre all very good and well-illustrated, but my Rumpelstiltskin book has all black characters in it, so for like most of my life, I was like, âYeah Rumpelstiltskin is black! And itâs the three little javelinas, not the three little pigs!â I donât know, I think itâs really funny and sweet, I love my mom. But yeah, Mr. Mxy didnât change much through the years, though the backwards-name rule kind of went out the window at some point. But his appearance here in Young Justice was kind of a big deal in terms of lore for the character because we learn way more about his past than we really ever haveâhe went to college, he originally thought fun and jokes were stupid, he wanted to be a serious scholar of techno-magic, etc. Itâs pretty cool that Peter David got to add this lore in sort of like, a random issue of Young Justice.Â
As far as the name goes, itâs been pronounced a million different ways, itâs been spelled a million different ways, but Iâm going with the My Adventures with Superman pronunciation, which is also I think the most common one, and the spelling from this particular issueâMyxzptlk. Just so weâre all on the same page. Okay, next scene.
Meanwhile, Robin, Impulse, and Superboy are hosting a âHallo-Teen Partyâ as Young Justice. Superboy is showing off to some girls using his TTK of course, Impulse is bobbing for apples, bothering the DJ, commenting on the quality of the dip, and taking pictures with people. A cheerleader flirts with Robin, though he doesnât seem very interested, but her quarterback boyfriend, Matt, wants to fight Tim about it. Robin, very coolly, tries to brush him off, which seems to work insofar as things donât further escalate, but Mattâs other football player friends congratulate him and make fun of Robin together. Superboy steps in to defend Robinâs honor, high-fiving Matt extra hard, and Impulse steals all of Mattâs clothes, leaving him naked, thus humiliating him. Outside the gym, Mr. Mxy observes the whole kerfuffle and thinks this party is perfect for his thesis research.Â
Guys, this is our first two-page spread in Young Justice! Iâll be putting it up on screen in the YouTube version, but itâs pages four and five of issue three if you want to look it up. Itâs very fun; I love the things they can do with Impulse and speed-impressions in a huge spread like this, and thereâs a great joke on here where someone is saying to Robin, like, âIs it my imagination or are there, like, twenty guys here dressed like Impulse?â Because Impulse is running around so fast talking to everyone, and Robin is just deadpan like, âI hadnât noticed.â Thatâs what I love about comics, thereâs so much room for visual gags and you can really look at a page or a panel for a long time just finding easter eggs. This is a great page for that. I love Superboyâs dialogue where heâs lifting the girls up like, âItâs Halloween, ladies⌠the time to lift spirits! Which is no problem for me, thanks to myâŚâ And the girls interrupt him to say âTactile telekinesis!â and heâs like âOh. You, uh, heard about it, huh?â Itâs like, yeah, everyoneâs heard about it, Kon. I just never get tired of the TTK gag. And I also decided I will start posting a thread of all TTK mentions on the Twitter so look out for that!
Another good easter egg is that a lot of the people at the party are dressed up as werewolvesânow, later in the series we discover the joys of âWendy the Werewolf Stalker,â which is DCâs knockoff of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and also itâs confirmed that werewolves are real in the DC universe, so⌠are these teens real werewolves? Fans of Wendy? Both? I donât know, I just think those possibilities are funny.
Bart still hates Hanson and is bothering the DJ to put on something else, and thereâs also a joke where heâs taking a picture with some kids and the person taking the picture is like, âOkay, now try not to look right into the flashâŚâ and Bartâs like, âThe Flash? Where?!?â Very silly.Â
I love Tim being so not interested in the high school drama with the cheerleader and her boyfriend Matt⌠I was so sure that when the cheerleader was like, âIs that a batarang in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?â Tim would be like, âItâs a batarang.â But whatever. I will label this a tentative Timkon moment, with Superboy sort of defending Timâs honor here, like I said, though later itâs implied that heâs sort of protecting his own status by making sure that Robin isnât perceived as uncool, though that can be perceived as him, you know, not being completely honest about his motivations. Iâll talk more about it later. But I will say itâs crazy to escalate immediately to stealing all of Mattâs clothes, like, pretty ruthless of Bart?
Elsewhere, Red Tornado is in Chicago, checking up on his adopted daughter, Traya Sutton. Sheâs dressed up as a witch for Halloween and is out trick-or-treating with some friends, and Red Tornado cries a single synthetic tear, observing her.Â
Poor Reddy, uh, your mileage may vary on the whole Red Tornado plotline throughout the series, Iâm not too bothered by it myself, but I think it certainly doesnât make for the most exciting reading if youâre mostly here for the team. I think itâs all pretty well-written, though, and I do like that they keep Traya more involved as a character throughout the run. I also love how in this scene heâs trying to, like, covertly spy on Traya in these panels, but heâs like literally a huge bright red flying android with a cape. Just like not the most stealth thing ever, you know? And I also wonder what his tears are made of⌠it looks like basically pink goop, so⌠I donât know.Â
Back at the party, Robin is feeling less than grateful to Superboy and Impulse for defending his honor against Matt, saying that the city fathers asked them to host this party as a safe alternative to trick-or-treating for teens, so they need to be mature and responsible. Superboy and Robin begin to argue about the whole thing while Impulse tries to get their attention, having noticed something they didnât. Finally he succeeds, showing them that some of the teens have suddenly turned elderly, while others are dancing uncontrollably. Off to the side, Mr. Mxy is studiously taking notes. He observes: âTotal panic, roughly 83 percent. Shock bordering on stupor, roughly 11 percent. Interesting, most interesting.â Superboy immediately flies up to confront him, which Mr. Mxy largely ignores in favor of messing with Superboyâs flight-via-TTK, wondering if heâs susceptible to something called âhexnology.â Huge weights and chains appear on Superboy, immediately and effectively grounding him, so Mr. Mxy concludes that he is, in fact, susceptible. Superboy is confused and angry that his TTK has now failed him twice in a rowâfirst with the Super-Cycle, now thisâbut Robin comes over to help him by picking the lock on the weights and chains. Robin deduces that hexnology is a combination of science and magic, and also notes Mr. Mxyâs mention of the fifth dimension, wondering if this could in fact be the notorious Mr. Mxyzptlk, but he doubts it because he knows Mr. Mxy to be much older than he appears now. Meanwhile, Impulse tries his luck against Mr. Mxy, running him into a wall (while Bart harmlessly vibrates through it). Mr. Mxy appears to be squished flat, though he easily reinflates himself, but then Robin calls the Super-Cycle, which crashes through a wall and runs over Mr. Mxy, flattening him once again, who is getting annoyed with the boys at this point.Â
I think when I first read this issue I didnât really fully process the fact that YJ were literally hosting the party, I was kind of like, âHuh, weird diversion for them but whatever,â but yeah considering that they were literally asked to do this by the city I can see why Timâs so upset about it. Okay letâs kind of dig into this Timkon moment, just because I feel like it, but when Robin is like, saying he didnât care about the whole situation with Matt and his girlfriend, and heâs insulted that Superboy and Impulse, like donât think he can take care of himself⌠which, I donât think is really true, like I think Bart, at least, trusts Robin implicitly and kind of really looks up to himâlike when they first meet in Robin Plus Impulse, Bart is kind of like, in awe of Robin and feeling like, âWow heâs so much better at being a superhero than I am.â And though he would never say so, I think Superboy has a similar, if less effusive respect for Tim, so I think first of all Tim is just reading their intentions wrong, but then Superboyâs response is, âHey, I hang with you! So I donât want to see anyone dissing you!â and from that Robin sort of extrapolates that Superboy cares about Tim being perceived as uncool because he cares about his own status, which Superboy then sort of plays into to piss off Tim, but he doesnât actually confirm that thatâs what he was thinking, and I donât know that thatâs what that original piece of dialogue really implies? He could also be saying like, âHey, youâre my friend, so it bothers me when people arenât nice to you,â in a very basic and empathetic way, or both of those things could be true at once. I also do love how Robin does a quick recap for the reader when Superboy asks if he worries about being cool and heâs like, âI worry about things like where the Mighty Endowed disappeared to. Like how Fite ânâ Maad showed up halfway around the world. Like what weâre going to do when that thing that Impulse requested from Ali Ben Styn shows up.â Like, thanks for the recap, bro, I was also wondering those things! I guess itâs pretty necessary because they skipped a month between this and the last issue, but I think it also speaks to Robinâs ability to mentally track a lot of situations at once and perhaps some of his internal anxiety. There was your weekly dose of way too in-depth character analysis.
Oh but weâre not done, because once again I am proven right by the literal text of the series that Impulse is the Ego! If you missed it, in the first issue, the writers by-way-of Red Tornado sort of diagnose the boys as facets of Freudâs model of the psyche with Impulse as Id, Superboy as Ego, and Robin as Superego, and I personally really think, especially in these earlier issues, that Superboy is very Id and Impulse is very ego, because a lot of the fundamental disagreements in the team come from Tim and Superboy! Illustrating the theorized eternal tug-of-war for control between the hedonistic Id and the stalwartly moral Superego, and here once again Impulse plays the peacekeeper Ego, trying to split the difference or at least keep them all working together long enough to notice what he has noticed, which is My. Mxy. There I segued back into the actual comic are you proud of me?
I do really like this version of Mr. Mxy that is just sort of, genuinely curious and doing little experiments while still being arrogant and not too self-aware, and heâs also doing some of his signature reality-altering tricks, just in a scientific capacity this time. Poor Superboy gets hexnology-ed and thinks his TTK is abandoning him. Itâs just a rough couple of back-to-back incidents, Kon, donât worry about it. Impulseâs instinct to run Mxy into the wall is actually really good and kind of works for a second so, great job Bart! I do kind of feel bad for Mr. Mxy at this point, like, heâs literally just trying to do his experiments, guys. I also would love to know what the heck his original name was since it apparently wasnât always Mr. Mxyzptlk? I would be very interested to know how fifth dimensional linguistics works, Mr. Mxy. And of course Tim would recognize Mxy, and I like how the timestream twist is sort of slowly introduced here. Itâs also super cute that the Super-Cycle now comes when called!Â
Traya, meanwhile, has been cornered by some mean-looking teens that want her to hand over her candy haul. She runs away as they taunt her witch costume, and she trips, only to start flying like a real witch, leaving the teens baffled. Presumably Red Tornado has helped her out of this sticky situation.Â
Dude, these teens are very mean. Like, I donât know how old Traya is supposed to be, exactly, I think at least twelve to be out trick-or-treating without parental supervision, but I feel like sheâs drawn so much younger than that, so I donât know. But one of these guys is literally like, âLittle witch! Weâll stick that broom where the moon donât shine!â Like oh my god leave her alone! I do love the panel of her flying silhouette in front of the moon like a real witch, though, itâs very cute.Â
Back in the gym, the boys are trying to come up with a plan, but Mr. Mxy crushes them with a giant hand, demanding to know why they attacked him; he says that he was only making a scientific inquiry and he was going to put everything back the way it was, and they didnât even give him a chance to explain. Superboy, having decided that this is in fact Mr. Mxyzptlk, confronts him again and tries to say that they know his game, but Robin interrupts him, pointing out that if they tell this younger version of Mr. Mxy how he turns out then it could interrupt the timestream, impacting the future. Superboy plows ahead, though, thinking this will save Superman some trouble retroactively. He tells Mxy, âListen, âProfessor,â in your future, you torment Superman with all sorts of stupid pranks just to tee him off⌠you act like some sort of jokester and comedian, usually until Superman tricks you back into your own dimension!â Mr. Mxy is very turned off by the idea of himself being a trickster or having fun generally, and Impulse asks him to put everything back, which he does, officially swearing off pranks and foolishness forever. Mr. Mxyzptlk then promptly begins to return to his own time and dimension, promising to never darken their doorstep again. Robin stops him before he leaves though, needing to check if this is impacting their world, because of the timestream. Indeed, the world outside is a complete hellscape, their present having been completely changed by young Mr. Mxyâs decision. Robin comes to the conclusion that they have to get Mxy to change his mind and become Supermanâs tormentor in his future. Mr. Mxy vehemently opposes.Â
I suppose that Mr. Mxy is technically right that they didnât give him a chance to explain, but he also did fail to explain before messing directly with them, so. Of course Robin is aware of the timeline-altering possibilities, and once again Superboy barrels ahead to do what he thinks is best⌠heâs the Id, guys. Okay Iâll shut up about it. But when Superboyâs explaining his future to Mr. Mxy, he says âTee-offâŚ?â Which I guess is supposed to be âtick-off,â I just didnât realize that that would need to be censored? Like, to me âtick offâ is already kind of the censored version of âpiss off,â but maybe Iâm wrong. Maybe Eddie Berganza was like, âYou canât say tick off. Thatâs as bad as saying the N-word.â Thatâs another John Mulaney reference, by the way. I do love how Mr. Mxy is annoyed by being called that and heâs like, âIt sounds like someone just randomly typed!â Ladies and gentlemen⌠was Mr. Mxyzptlk the original keysmash? If so we owe so much to Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, even more than theyâre already getting! But yeah and then Mxyâs like, with regard to the future Superboy tells him of, âWhat the heck that sounds boring I promise never to do that,â and I guess means it completely genuinely, considering the timeline changes so drastically in responseâit makes me really curious about what the original inciting incident was to make him start pranking Superman? Or if this is now a closed loop in time, like, this always would happen and the boys would always need to convince a young Mr. Mxyzptlk to become a trickster, so this was always the inciting incident? I think that might be the implication here? Time shenanigans, always very fun.
Meanwhile back in Chicago, Red Tornado has finally revealed himself to Traya, still flying them along on her broom, and Traya is happy but confused, saying that her mom told her that he wasnât coming back due to his crisis of humanity. He tells her, âTo a degree, that is the case⌠But because it is Halloween, Traya, we can pretend that we are what we are not.â He proceeds to explain that heâs going to try to be there for her and understand what he can and cannot do, but this heartfelt moment is interrupted by them coming across the new and improved hellscape version of the world. Traya asks whatâs going on, and Red Tornado says he doesnât know, but he has a feeling that the boys are mixed up in it.
This is a really sweet scene and Iâm sure hits really hard if youâre a Red Tornado fan. We also love a deadbeat dad trying to un-deadbeat himself! Like, obviously the situation is complicated with the humanity question, but I think once you feel human enough to adopt a child, you canât really take that back? I feel like itâs fundamentally a little selfish to be like, well, I give up! But yes props to Tornado for trying again. And I really adore that piece of dialogue, âBecause it is Halloween, Traya, we can pretend that we are what we are not.â Like, what a line, sometimes Peter David just gets one in that really hits. And itâs of course really funny that Red Tornado sees the world completely messed up and is immediately like, âI know who did this. The three teenage boys Iâve been mentoring.â Just like, in a world where aliens and Red Lanterns and Darkseid all canonically exist, he still jumps to YJ without hesitation. Do you really think itâs them, Red Tornado, or do you just want to check on them to make sure theyâre okay? Maybe both? Also I think he ostensibly drops Traya off at home here because he shows up alone in the next scene. Speaking of.
In the meantime, the boys are showing Mr. Mxy old three stooges movies to try and activate his trickster gene. It doesnât seem to be working at first, but when Bart asks what he thinks, he says, âIt seems so juvenile, so⌠so frenetic⌠I⌠Iâve never seen anything like it. Iâm not sure how to react.â But after a moment he cracks a smile, and then starts laughing uncontrollably. His graduation cap falls off and his hair begins turning grey, and he starts teasing some of the random teenagers still around. Robin says, âMy fellow stooges, I think weâve just saved the world.â Robin stops him from messing with the kids any further, the three of them hauling Mr. Mxy out, who is thanking them profusely for opening his eyes to a whole new world of pointless stupidity. He does the buzzer handshake trick on Bart, and Superboy punches him, but Mr. Mxy continues to express his gratitude, promising to give Superman his best when the time comes. He disappears back to his own dimension, hair now fully white and looking much more like the Mr. Mxyzptlk we know. The boys race outside to check on the world, and run into Red Tornado, who asks if theyâve been up to anything strange. Robin tells him he doesnât know the half of it, going outside around him, to discover a large Mxyzptlk-themed theme park. Robin asks if the whole world is like this, and thankfully Red Tornado says that it seems to be limited to just this area, much to Robinâs relief. He says, âThen I guess we got off lucky.â Bart, meanwhile, is having a great time, and says he wishes the whole world were like this carnival, and Robin wonders if Bart and Mr. Mxy were separated at birth.
I do enjoy the parallel of the three stooges and the three boys, and having never seen any three stooges media I have no idea if theyâre able to be mapped on to Tim Kon and Bart, but please let me know if you have a headcanon about that. I do think thereâs something here about like, perhaps the futility of academia or the burden of intelligence regarding Mr. Mxyâs seemingly inevitable switch to a life of pranks and trickery, diverting from his original path of scholarly pursuits, and the idea that the freedom of quote-unquote âpointless stupidityâ is something of an antidote to self-seriousness and tireless dedication to study. But the comic doesnât really go any deeper into it than that so I wonât either because Iâm tired. I really love the, âMy fellow stooges, I think weâve just saved the worldâ line, because itâs really an encapsulation of Young Justice, like, saving the world by doing kind of objectively stupid stuff or averting ridiculous disasters, and what that says about, like, just because some problems seem silly or juvenile or childish, doesnât mean theyâre not important and the world wouldnât benefit from them being solved. I just love that. Â
The slow transformation of Mr. Mxy into the form we know is also interesting, like, implying itâs an uncontrollable effect and not just age? Like perhaps whatever species Mr. Mxy is suffer physical effects from dedicating themselves to lives of trickery.Â
The last page is really fun, and I like the idea that the big Mxysptlk carnival is like a âgiftâ he left them for opening his eyes. Very fun. The joke about Bart and Mxy being separated at birth is really funny but Iâm also so traumatized from comics doing secret sibling storylines that Iâm like, Donât even joke, lad.Â
And thatâs the comic, guys! I really love this one, I think itâs a lot of fun and the kind of episodic hijinks that I think is a strength of the Young Justice series, and getting to see a classic villain interact with sidekicks was also so exciting and interesting. The art was great, especially since there were a lot of background characters to be drawn here, and also the nature of Mr. Mxyâs magic. I think thatâs everything for this week, so definitely let me know your thoughts and feelings on the issue, either via the social media or the email; thatâs all yjupodcast all one word across all platforms. All links will always be in the description or show notes below. Make sure to subscribe to the pod wherever youâre listening, and next weekâand remember thatâs next SaturdayâI will be covering issue four of Young Justice, where weâll finally get the girls on the team and also meet another very silly villain. Thank you for listening and remember, itâs not Young Justice, itâs Young, Just Us!