Characters: Draco Malfoy, Narcissa Black Malfoy, Lucius Malfoy, Hermione Granger
Additional Tags: draco has a crush, the Malfoys love a mystery, Canon who?, Harry Potter Epilogue What Epilogue | EWE
Summary:
When Draco Malfoy finds an errant journal at work, he's determined to find the owner. Not least because she seems so sweet and loving. Who would make an entire diary of her boyfriend's likes and dislikes? Notes on his favourite meals and when he'd need his Quidditch gear replaced, even. There's something oddly touching about her level of care.
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our landlord has started ominously talking about doing property valuations for our flat so we've decided to make some mortgage appointments to see if we actually have any reasonable chance of buying something if we get kicked out. stressful, hassle, yadda yadda, but the point is i'm filling out this mortgage website's form with our details and it asks for your occupation via a dropdown menu
unsurprisingly, 'learning technologist' aka my job is not listed as one of their occupations. weirdly neither is 'IT support' which was the next closest position i could think of, but whatever, still not too unusual, but then i started scrolling down the list of what this website DOES have for accepted occupations and now i have some questions about how they establish what jobs need to be included as options
Because I cannot let this go, apparently, one more thing about OP's question/critiquing Austen as "unfeminist" and whether or not Austen is sending the message that "a good heroine is demure, reserved, and quiet" in this post.
At no point does Austen tell us that her livelier, more sassy heroines should be more demure, more agreeable, or less assertive to be worthy of their eventual husbands or society in general. Her themes are more about judgement, in terms of who you trust and how you treat others, and the necessity of having all the facts to make good decisions. All those spouses appreciate and admire Austen's heroines for their wit, intelligence, passion, etc., even at the close of their respective novels. No sassy Austen heroine actually changes their personality in some tradwife sort of way and their spouses like that about them:
-Darcy canonically is attracted to Lizzy because she's witty and fun to be around. His cousin Col. Fitzwilliam is also crushing on Lizzy for her personality and (if he had money) tells her she's the kind of person he'd want to be with.
-Col. Brandon AND Willoughby both love Marianne for her personality and enthusiasm for poetry and music and the arts. Austen tells us that Willoughby is still running around like "Mrs. Brandon is the best of women," years later.
-in his first scene, Knightley rides back from London and walks over to Emma's at night because a.) he knows she cannot go to London to check on her sister Isabella and the new baby herself and b.) because he genuinely likes nothing more than hanging out with Emma. The message that he loves being with Emma more anything else is reaffirmed by his offer to move in with her at the close of the novel.
Anyhow, I don't know what novels people are reading, if they think that Lizzy, Marianne, and Emma are less lively and fun at the ends of their novels.
I was just thinking of the "Being agreeable never did a woman any good for the new "Sense & Sensibility" movie and how you and others have pointed out that the novel's message is partly just the opposite: that Marianne needs to learn to be more agreeable and proper, which is equated with being sensible. It made me think of a "feminist" complaint that I've read about Austen in the past: that in her novels, the quiet, reserved, proper heroines (Elinor Dashwood, Fanny Price, Anne Elliot) are the ones who are portrayed as always right, while the bolder, livelier, less ladylike heroines (Marianne Dashwood, Elizabeth Bennet, Catherine Morland, Emma Woodhouse) are portrayed as more flawed and in need of a moral lesson. So maybe Austen was more conservative in her views on appropriate female behavior than we sometimes want her to have been. Would you agree?
I don't really agree, because what we see again and again in Austen is that the heroines who act the most proper also seem to carry the most pain.
Elinor Dashwood suffers alone in complete silence, not reaching out to her family. Anne Elliot wastes away at Kellynch, ignored and unappreciated. Fanny Price's story is genuinely hard to read. I'll add Jane Bennet, she behaves exactly as a modest woman should and still suffers. Jane Fairfax probably fits in here somewhere.
They may be right, but it doesn't actually help them.
Elizabeth Bennet's lesson isn't to be more like Jane, it's to reserve judgment and examine her cynicism. Catherine Morland just needs to grow up, it isn't about being feminine or not or even more well-behaved. Emma Woodhouse has to demonstrate compassion worthy of her high station. And even Marianne, it's more about not causing her family so much pain by proxy and assuming that those who don't show pain can't be feeling it.
I think Jane Austen's feminism is in showing women as fully formed and fleshed out "rational creatures" with just as much interiority and intelligence as men. I think she also shows that no matter where women are placed in gentry society, from governess-to-be Jane Fairfax and poor relation Fanny Price to the rich Emma Woodhouse and high rank Anne Elliot, that they are generally at the mercy of the men around them. They are expected to marry and often must for survival, but cannot control the circumstances around that, except behaving as they can within the constraints of society.
Sure, Jane Austen is more conservative, she doesn't seem to want to burn it all down, but she's not happy and her heroines, all of them I think, have ways in which they push back or show flaws in the system they exist in.
Also, see this post:
đŹ 54  đ 13743  â¤ď¸ 19513 ¡ tbh nothing frustrates me more then when people brush off classics like pride and prejudice or jane eyre because t
"Agreeable" in the general sense of "women must be more agreeable to men/society" that the original question implies is maybe the silliest blanket misreading of Austen I've ever seen.
It isn't that Lizzy Bennet needs to be more "agreeable" to Darcy, it's that she mistakes Wickham's surface charm as evidence of a good heart and Darcy's pride and arrogance as a sign of a cruel one. She has to work on her judgement of people so she won't be conned or make mistakes like her parents, who made a bad marriage and continue to mess up, re: their daughters' lives (note that it's Lizzy who tries to correctly advise her father about Lydia's safety). Darcy has his own independent character arc of evolving from more flawed to less.
Knightley isn't asking Emma to be more agreeable as a woman, he's asking her to be better towards the poor as his peer and not treat people as her playthings because she has power. As the two leaders of their community (Emma is the wealthiest person in town and her father has abdicated his leadership to her; Knightley owns the most land), he directly says the Regency equivalent of 'it's fine for us to joke about other rich people or be open with each other about our petty annoyances in private, but not okay for us to make life harder on the people making $7/hr to their faces, Emma.' It's about Emma's privilege, not her gender.
Anne Elliot isn't rewarded for being agreeable; she yields to the person she regards as a surrogate mom on the (not unreasonable) point that she shouldn't marry the young, impulsive guy with no savings and then spends most of the next decade being miserable and horribly lonely. The lesson is that she should have valued her feelings more, not less--but that doesn't mean Austen negates the original difficulty. There are several characters who follow their hearts and meet with misfortune, anyway (Mrs. Smith, the Harvilles aren't as lucky as Wentworth and the Crofts). Ultimately, Anne realizes she'd rather have that risk with someone she genuinely cares for like Wentworth than a "safer" life as Lady Elliot with a man she doesn't love or respect. How's that being more agreeable? If anyone becomes more agreeable, it's actually Wentworth. He comes to regret his pride and pettiness towards Anne because he held onto resentment from the original rejection.
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I was just thinking of the "Being agreeable never did a woman any good for the new "Sense & Sensibility" movie and how you and others have pointed out that the novel's message is partly just the opposite: that Marianne needs to learn to be more agreeable and proper, which is equated with being sensible. It made me think of a "feminist" complaint that I've read about Austen in the past: that in her novels, the quiet, reserved, proper heroines (Elinor Dashwood, Fanny Price, Anne Elliot) are the ones who are portrayed as always right, while the bolder, livelier, less ladylike heroines (Marianne Dashwood, Elizabeth Bennet, Catherine Morland, Emma Woodhouse) are portrayed as more flawed and in need of a moral lesson. So maybe Austen was more conservative in her views on appropriate female behavior than we sometimes want her to have been. Would you agree?
I don't really agree, because what we see again and again in Austen is that the heroines who act the most proper also seem to carry the most pain.
Elinor Dashwood suffers alone in complete silence, not reaching out to her family. Anne Elliot wastes away at Kellynch, ignored and unappreciated. Fanny Price's story is genuinely hard to read. I'll add Jane Bennet, she behaves exactly as a modest woman should and still suffers. Jane Fairfax probably fits in here somewhere.
They may be right, but it doesn't actually help them.
Elizabeth Bennet's lesson isn't to be more like Jane, it's to reserve judgment and examine her cynicism. Catherine Morland just needs to grow up, it isn't about being feminine or not or even more well-behaved. Emma Woodhouse has to demonstrate compassion worthy of her high station. And even Marianne, it's more about not causing her family so much pain by proxy and assuming that those who don't show pain can't be feeling it.
I think Jane Austen's feminism is in showing women as fully formed and fleshed out "rational creatures" with just as much interiority and intelligence as men. I think she also shows that no matter where women are placed in gentry society, from governess-to-be Jane Fairfax and poor relation Fanny Price to the rich Emma Woodhouse and high rank Anne Elliot, that they are generally at the mercy of the men around them. They are expected to marry and often must for survival, but cannot control the circumstances around that, except behaving as they can within the constraints of society.
Sure, Jane Austen is more conservative, she doesn't seem to want to burn it all down, but she's not happy and her heroines, all of them I think, have ways in which they push back or show flaws in the system they exist in.
Also, see this post:
đŹ 54  đ 13743  â¤ď¸ 19513 ¡ tbh nothing frustrates me more then when people brush off classics like pride and prejudice or jane eyre because t
tbh nothing frustrates me more then when people brush off classics like pride and prejudice or jane eyre because they donât fit into todayâs modern standards of feminism and social justice etc.
remember that these novels were published in the 19th century. and that some of the things that were written in these books may seem trivial to us today but would have absolutely fucking shook readers in the victorian era
like,,,,,elizabeth rejecting mr collins because she doesnât love him even though it would have been considered her duty in her family to marry him? or jane eyre not agreeing to marry mr rochester unless it was on her own terms? hell even anne brontĂŤ wrote a lesser known novel about a wife leaving her abusive husband with her five year old son to live a better life?? do yâall realize how unheard of that would be in the 1800â˛s?? where women were considered more of a commodity than actual human beings??
even though they might not be up to todays standards of modern feminism and romance, they were still HUGE building blocks for equality for that time period. so if youâre a reader who says to themselves âI read classics with modern standards applied and I canât get past thatâ then you are most likely going to be disappointed when reading classics and not fully understand their significance to that time periodÂ
The thing that pisses me off about bad period movie adaptations is when they go for a realist tone but don't care about what real people wore or thought. Like the tone is realist, the acting is realist, the colour palette is realist, and the clothes are things that real people at some point in time have worn. But they aren't accurate to the period, and it's just like. That's not a realistic depiction of the period or the people in it. So what's the point in being realist???
Incidentally, this is why I don't care that the recent Wuthering heights wasn't realistic period dress or society etc. It was blatantly symbolic (and Symbolic!) and wasn't trying for realism or period accuracy, so I don't criticise it for period inaccuracy. Like, who walks across the moors in a massive tulle gown in real life? No one ever, and that's the point. It's obviously performance, and that's what its going for. My criticisms are based on other criteria.
But this new adaptation of S&S seems realist - the colour palette and grading, the costumes and hair that aren't accurate but look like something real people at some point in time have worn, the characters that read like real(ish) modern women... It's trying to read as realist without being realistic and just. What's the point in setting it in the past then?? Why adapt Sense and Sensibility, a realistic realist novel, into an unrealistic realist movie?
I'm just so tired of earth tones being "realist." People wore bright clothes! The past wasn't drab, honestly it might have been brighter than now given our whole obsession with beige minimalism.
But no, it's not realistic unless it's BROWN and BORING
This is just modern minimalism imposed on the past. Just make a modern.
B-but Bethany! However would we know the Dashwood girls have fallen on hard times if they weren't dressed like fishwives who got stranded on a deserted island with only clothes on their backs and a lifetime supply of skin cream?
Nevermind that the Ang Lee movie got across their relative pennilessness by just giving them nice, but simple dresses, distinct from for example Fanny's more stylish costumes. Nevermind also that those costumes were notably quite colourful, although more drab than those of Fanny or Mrs. Jennings. Y'know. Subtlety! Imagination! What concepts!
kinda funny that steve rogers, a chronically ill son of first gen immigrants, was raised by a single mom in brooklyn into an anti fascist progressive man who stood up everyday against oppressors. and that cap 2 was about an AI surveillance state & how easily the government could be corrupted/compromised. and that cap 3 was about accords that would strip enhanced individuals of their autonomy and turn them into pawns/breathing weapons & a tortured POW who was villainized. and how in infinity war steve rogers had become a world wide fugitive doing what he thought was right even if it wasnât legal.
and then endgame said well on that note, weâre sending him back in time to 1950s (the decade epitomes w trad values and when there was still segregation) and he wouldnât do anything about social issues or hydra or his best friend being brainwashed bc he deserved to rest <3
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accidentally wrote "maid of horror" and I think I'm on to something actually. new wedding role responsible for releasing a chainsaw clown into the chapel if things get boring
Even Mr. Knightley agrees with me! They'd have been a good match!
âAs to the circumstances of her birth, though in a legal sense she may be called Nobody, it will not hold in common sense. She is not to pay for the offence of others, by being held below the level of those with whom she is brought up.âThere can scarcely be a doubt that her father is a gentlemanâand a gentleman of fortune.âHer allowance is very liberal; nothing has ever been grudged for her improvement or comfort.âThat she is a gentlemanâs daughter, is indubitable to me; that she associates with gentlemenâs daughters, no one, I apprehend, will deny.âShe is superior to Mr. Robert Martin.â
- ok maybe she's right, you know
âWhoever might be her parents,â said Mr. Knightley, âwhoever may have had the charge of her, it does not appear to have been any part of their plan to introduce her into what you would call good society. After receiving a very indifferent education she is left in Mrs. Goddardâs hands to shift as she can;âto move, in short, in Mrs. Goddardâs line, to have Mrs. Goddardâs acquaintance. Her friends evidently thought this good enough for her; and it was good enough. She desired nothing better herself. Till you chose to turn her into a friend, her mind had no distaste for her own set, nor any ambition beyond it. She was as happy as possible with the Martins in the summer. She had no sense of superiority then. If she has it now, you have given it. You have been no friend to Harriet Smith, Emma. Robert Martin would never have proceeded so far, if he had not felt persuaded of her not being disinclined to him. I know him well. He has too much real feeling to address any woman on the haphazard of selfish passion. And as to conceit, he is the farthest from it of any man I know. Depend upon it he had encouragement.â
- ok he's right too
- ugh this is gonna blow up, isn't it?
and till it appears that men are much more philosophic on the subject of beauty than they are generally supposed; till they do fall in love with well-informed minds instead of handsome faces, a girl, with such loveliness as Harriet, has a certainty of being admired and sought after, of having the power of chusing from among many, consequently a claim to be nice.
- ok again, she makes a few good points
"I am very much mistaken if your sex in general would not think such beauty, and such temper, the highest claims a woman could possess.â
âUpon my word, Emma, to hear you abusing the reason you have, is almost enough to make me think so too. Better be without sense, than misapply it as you do.â
- oof, that was brutal
Emma made no answer, and tried to look cheerfully unconcerned, but was really feeling uncomfortable and wanting him very much to be gone. She did not repent what she had done; she still thought herself a better judge of such a point of female right and refinement than he could be; but yet she had a sort of habitual respect for his judgment in general, which made her dislike having it so loudly against her; and to have him sitting just opposite to her in angry state, was very disagreeable.
- God, never thought that Emma would be so sad to know that Mr. Knightley is disappointed in her
Some minutes passed in this unpleasant silence, with only one attempt on Emmaâs side to talk of the weather, but he made no answer. He was thinking. The result of his thoughts appeared at last in these words
âRobert Martin has no great lossâif he can but think so; and I hope it will not be long before he does. Your views for Harriet are best known to yourself; but as you make no secret of your love of match-making, it is fair to suppose that views, and plans, and projects you have;âand as a friend I shall just hint to you that if Elton is the man, I think it will be all labour in vain.â
Bro he knows her so well
- ok Mr. Knightley says Mr. Elton isn't the romantic sort and won't marry Harriet. But he's totally likes Harriet. Perhaps he'll change?
âI am very much obliged to you,â said Emma, laughing again. âIf I had set my heart on Mr. Eltonâs marrying Harriet, it would have been very kind to open my eyes; but at present I only want to keep Harriet to myself. I have done with match-making indeed. I could never hope to equal my own doings at Randalls. I shall leave off while I am well.â
LIAR
Imagine you're Mr. Knightley. You've just received news from your work friend(or something like it) that he's planning to propose to this girl. The very same girl who's now besties with your old friend and your sister-in-law's sister. When you are joyfully telling her this, she just goes-"Oh, yeah, I already knew that. He got rejected. Totally not my doing at all. Old news. Anyways how's the weather?"
like bro, valid crash out on Mr. Knightley's part.
Poor Mr. Martin too
- bro Mr. Elton is talking about Harriet only right? It can't be a misunderstanding?
- maybe Emma is right, Mr. Elton sure does seem like he's having a major crush
Chapter 9:
Her views of improving her little friendâs mind, by a great deal of useful reading and conversation, had never yet led to more than a few first chapters, and the intention of going on to-morrow. It was much easier to chat than to study; much pleasanter to let her imagination range and work at Harrietâs fortune, than to be labouring to enlarge her comprehension or exercise it on sober facts;
- as someone who ought to be studying for their exams right now, but reading a novel, this is too real rn
- love island ep 2: The Charade
- god this is so funny stop
- also Emma should have been a gardener cuz she sure knows how to plant seeds of affection in Harriet's mind
Can it be Neptune? Or a trident? or a mermaid? or a shark?
- Mermaids!?!? it's so teenage girl core.
- COURTSHIP!?!?
- Mr. Woodhouse STILL hasn't accepted that his eldest daughter is married and has her own life now? bro why is Mr. Woodhouse like this lol
- Now he's questioning why kids like to play rough? ....has he met CHILDREN?!?!
âWell, I cannot understand it.â
âThat is the case with us all, papa. One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other.
- ok but Austen quotes still slap, after all these years
If i was Mr. Elton and somebody put my personal poem in a book in spite of my explicit instructions not to, I'd murder them, but that's just me i think.
ok we're back and I'm truly enjoying this book so far
Chapter 5:
"Emma has been meaning to read more ever since she was twelve years old. I have seen a great many lists of her drawing-up at various times of books that she meant to read regularly throughâand very good lists they wereâvery well chosen, and very neatly arrangedâsometimes alphabetically, and sometimes by some other rule. The list she drew up when only fourteenâI remember thinking it did her judgment so much credit, that I preserved it some time; and I dare say she may have made out a very good list now. But I have done with expecting any course of steady reading from Emma. She will never submit to any thing requiring industry and patience, and a subjection of the fancy to the understanding. Where Miss Taylor failed to stimulate, I may safely affirm that Harriet Smith will do nothing.âYou never could persuade her to read half so much as you wished.âYou know you could not.â
lol, he's brutal bro i feel so called out
- now he's calling Mrs. Weston a bad teacher and Emma a better teacher?!? wow how does this man do this? can you just say things like these to a person's face lol?
....why do i feel like he's just foreshadowed the entire book right now? esp. about Emma and Harriet.
I have not a fault to find with her person,â he replied. âI think her all you describe. I love to look at her; and I will add this praise, that I do not think her personally vain. Considering how very handsome she is, she appears to be little occupied with it;
- wait, don't tell me he likes her
but he also is pretty strict with her so....
Chapter 6:
- love island ep 1 begins, or should I say, continues.
- John was peeved at his inaccurate portrait?!? Umm, like it's the thought that counts, right?
John and Isabella after the portrait:
- Mr. Elton is a bit too eager to fall in love i think
âYou have made her too tall, Emma,â said Mr. Knightley. Emma knew that she had, but would not own it
lmao
- Mr. Woodhouse is very encouraging of his daughter, that's sweet
Chapter 7:
- Harriet got a proposal?! isn't she a bit young for that though? She feels pretty girlish to me.
- No why is Emma making her reject it, let the poor girl be happy, she certainly likes him. Also she can't go wrong with a man who listens to her and tries to make her happy. Plus his family seems to adore her. It all seems perfect.
- No way she's hanging her friendship over her headâthat's cunning and manipulative to an extentâEmma perfectly knows how much she means to a girl like Harrietâdaumn, she strikes hard and fast.
This entire chapter is pure rage bait to me.
I think Emma is one of the first heroine I've ever encountered who manipulates people when it isn't in a life or death situation. And she has no qualms manipulating someone to her own advantage (though she justifies this thing to herself as a class thing, it's all about her and what she wants). This is pretty surprising esp. cuz this isn't a situation where manipulation is necessary for survival unlike the other heroines had to face(you can tell I read a lot of YA and Sci-Fi).
I'm still surprised why Emma said no, like he isn't poor, is educated, has a nice family + income and the social status is fine too? Even if his status wasn't great, well it's not like Harriet is some princess.
P.S.(while posting)-oh i get it now-her class system is kind of about how close people are to her-that's why a governess and a random girl are high society for her(i know she doesn't really consider Harriet like that, but she feels that could be improved easily through a goodâin her opinionâmarriage)
sherlock holmes deduces you are trans before you've figured it out yourself and refers to you with those pronouns and then when you look confused is like "ah...had you not arrived at that conclusion yet?" and wafts away in his dressing gown to smoke seventeen pipes, leaving you in a gender crisis
Hercule Poirot deduces you are trans by accident because he suspected you of murder and broke into your house and searched your stuff then puts 2 and 2 together when Hastings makes an innocuous observation about your fashion sense or something and he jumps up and cries âmon dieu!!!â before striding over to you kissing you on both cheeks and saying âah, cher ami, you must live as you choose!â and then running off to confront the real culprit while you stand there in befuddlement
Columbo deduces you're trans from context clues while he's talking to you about the area, immediately uses your preferred pronouns and starts telling you about his cousin, who's also transgender, and how they got this job doing security, and how they told him that a security guard always locks up, and asks you if the guard locked up last night, and isn't it weird the place was open? And you're like, well, someone else must have opened it up. Maybe the guy in charge? He has a spare key. And then he nods and goes "the guy in charge has a spare key... well, how about that?" And then he offers you a cigar and wanders off, and a day later your boss gets arrested for murder.
Miss Fisher learns youre trans and simply gives you hormones, and a little cocaine as a treat. she also invites you out to a club to meet like minded individuals. at the club you watch as she seduces the bartender and then the next day the bartender is arrested for the murder.
Elementary Sherlock deduces you are Trans and takes you on as a specialist in many obscure and useful disciplines, and also takes you in when you have a falling out with one of your many eccentric and rich paramours. This leads to you becoming an occasional and part-time housekeeper. You are Mrs. Hudson. Yes this is Canon and it aired on TV in like 2007
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we do need to revisit the wording of "you can't have your cake and eat it too" because i don't think it clearly enough conveys that it's more that you can't simultaneously retain a cake and also get to consume it (which would render you cakeless). for years i was like But why not....it's my cake....?
the unabomber was pedantic about idiomatic phrases like "have your cake and eat it too" and rephrased it to "eat your cake and have it too" (which to be very fair makes sense). fast forward to when he starts writing manifestos. he uses the phrase word for word in his pedantic style and his brother (who has been keeping his eyes on the unabomber shit for obvious reasons) notices the phrase and is like "oh fuck that's my fucking brother no one else fucking says that" and calls in an FBI tip
