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I constantly see rhaelya shippers using the "elia’s brothers didn't blame rhaegar" argument, or claiming that if doran was actually angry, he wouldn't have made that secret marriage pact between arianne and viserys. it honestly shows a huge lack of media literacy. first of all, people completely ignore the canon context of the rebellion. doran literally refused to send dorne's full military strength to support rhaegar because of how badly elia was being treated. the only reason he sent any troops at all was because aerys was keeping elia and her kids as hostages in the red keep. secondly, using that secret marriage pact as proof of "forgiveness" makes no sense when the plan completely failed and never even happened in the end. it wasn't some sentimental nod to the targaryens; it was just a desperate, poorly thought-out political move from a man who is clearly traumatized, depressed, and haunted by his sister's brutal murder. but even past that, why on earth would elia’s brothers be constantly talking about a man who died 15 years ago? by this logic, does ned stark not blame aerys for murdering his father and brother just because he doesn't mention him all the time? does dany not blame robert just because she doesn't obsess over him post-death? trauma and political pragmatism in george's writing are never that shallow. elia’s family doesn’t need to dedicate their dialogue to rhaegar for his actions to have weight. rhaegar was the catalyst for the tragedy, but doran’s obsession now isn't with the man who died at the trident—it's with the consequences of his actions and the downfall of the regime that allowed it. silence isn't forgiveness, and refusing to constantly bring up a dead prince doesn't erase the fact that dorne's current political trajectory was entirely shaped by his betrayal of elia. it's just basic literary analysis.
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i’m actually sick of some rh@elya stans who pretend to 'love elia' just to weaponize her against herself. if you truly believed she 'deserved better,' you wouldn’t be peddling that disgusting incest headcanon just to clear rhaegar’s conscience. claiming that rhaenys is actually oberyn’s daughter is vile. you aren't 'giving elia a better man'; you’re stripping her of her dignity and ruining her house’s integrity just to make the 'tragic prince' look like less of a cheater. it’s not about elia’s happiness for you, it’s about projecting your weird fantasies so you can ship rhaegar and lyanna without feeling guilty. if you actually cared about her, you’d ship her with baelor hightower or even a well-written OC. but no, you’d rather character-assassinate her with her own brother than admit rhaegar was a terrible husband who left his family in a war zone. honestly, the elia haters are less annoying because at least they’re honest. you? you’re just using her as a tool to clean up rhaegar’s mess. it’s pathetic.
Who the fuck ships her with her own brother!?
(This is a genuinely question, I’ve been away asoiaf fandom for just a minute what fuck fucking happened)
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what’s happening over on X right now. some rh@elya stans who pretend to care about elia created this disgusting ship out of nowhere. now they’re already trying to pass it off as a serious theory even though they claim it’s 'just for fun' lmao.
i’m actually sick of some rh@elya stans who pretend to 'love elia' just to weaponize her against herself. if you truly believed she 'deserved better,' you wouldn’t be peddling that disgusting incest headcanon just to clear rhaegar’s conscience. claiming that rhaenys is actually oberyn’s daughter is vile. you aren't 'giving elia a better man'; you’re stripping her of her dignity and ruining her house’s integrity just to make the 'tragic prince' look like less of a cheater. it’s not about elia’s happiness for you, it’s about projecting your weird fantasies so you can ship rhaegar and lyanna without feeling guilty. if you actually cared about her, you’d ship her with baelor hightower or even a well-written OC. but no, you’d rather character-assassinate her with her own brother than admit rhaegar was a terrible husband who left his family in a war zone. honestly, the elia haters are less annoying because at least they’re honest. you? you’re just using her as a tool to clean up rhaegar’s mess. it’s pathetic.
The faux feminism where women are only are 'passive victims' where they are only happy to be reduced to whores and handmaidens in their own marriage in order to alleviate the guilt of the white lovers.
But Lyanna Stark throwing a fucking fit over Mya Stone, a bastard girl she never saw or would see that was conceived when she was all of twelve and has no responsibility to anyone else and shouldn't suffer any consequences at all is just so girl boss coded.
And Rhaenys being a bastard because she is brown and her mother is screwing every one of her relatives under the sun and maybe Arrhur Dayne on the side is just blanket racism.
i’ve always said that the rh@elya stans who hide behind pseudo-feminism and pretend to care about elia are the absolute worst. i wouldn’t even care if this gross incest ship came from some random part of the fandom, because we all know asoiaf is full of weird ships. but it’s always specifically rh@elya stans who suddenly develop this deep obsession with elia’s love life.
over on X recently, the people who started this disgusting ship got completely called out. before all the backlash, they were seriously taking oberyn’s quotes out of context to argue that he was sleeping with his sister. but the second they got dragged for it, they immediately played the victim. they started calling everyone racist just because they claim to be poc, threw a tantrum about how 'the fandom doesn't know how to have fun,' and claimed it was just a harmless headcanon that had nothing to do with them being rh@elya stans. then they tried to deflect by claiming rhaegar and elia are incestuous too just because they’re distant cousins, which is hilarious.
we all know how this fandom operates, especially with their hyper-sexualized view of dorne. today it’s a 'harmless headcanon,' and tomorrow they’ll try to turn it into a serious theory. it’s the exact same script they used years ago when they claimed rhaenys was arthur’s daughter and aegon was aerys’s bastard. but now that they know how the fandom reacts to that, they’re approaching it from the incest angle instead.
it all boils down to their subconscious hatred for a character who did absolutely nothing wrong. their logic is so transparent: since their faves gave birth to a bastard, they desperately need elia to have bastards too. they want to reduce her to a caricature so their favorites' actions and elia's horrific death feel justified. if we started taking quotes out of context the way they do, we could easily claim kevan was sleeping with his niece cersei, or that loras and margaery had something going on. but nobody creates a disgusting ship out of nowhere and tries to pass it off as 'just for fun' unless they have an agenda to alter the narrative and demonize elia. it’s always the jobless rh@elya stans who genuinely believe the entire lore of this universe revolves solely around their favorites.
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