At first I was really happy about the month of June cause itâs my birthday on the 4th
But then it hit me
Itâs also pride month.
A month where many people celebrate sinâŚ.
I will continue to preach to the misguided in hopes God will move through their hearts!
Let me get this straight. Iâm not religious, but I was raised by a preacher who taught me that God does not âhateâ homosexuality.
The one verse that says something about homosexuality? âMan shall not lay with manâ? Itâs misinterpreted, Iâve gotten multiple pastors to admit that, itâs supposed to be âman shall not lay with boyâ. Pedophilia, not homosexuality.
That being said, Gods whole point all the time is love. Love thu neighbor. Embrace sinners. Love. Love is love is love. Why would a God that tells us to love, be against love?
I appreciate your religion, and I appreciate your prayers. But they are unnecessary. I am not going to Hell, and I never was. Love is not, and never will be, a sin.
Thank you.
âThe phrase âmen who have sex with menâ (translated âhomosexualsâ in the NASB) is a translation of the Greek word arsenokoitai. Those who object to this translation say that arsenokoitai does not refer to all homosexual relationships but only to those involving abuse, coercion, or unfaithfulness. They say the word does not refer to âloving, faithfulâ same-sex relationships. Arsenokoitai is a compound word: arseno is the word for âa male,â and koitai is the word for âmatâ or âbed.â Put the two halves together, and the word means âa male bedââthat is, a person who makes use of a âmale-only bedâ or a âbed for males.â And, truthfully, thatâs all the information we need to understand the intent of 1 Corinthians 6:9. The word meaning âbedâ carries a sexual connotation in this contextâthe Greek koitai is the source of our English word coitus (âsexual intercourseâ). The conclusion is that the word arsenokoitai is referring to homosexualsâmen who are in bed with other men, engaging in same-gender sexual activity. The notion that some homosexual relationships are accepted is not even hinted at in this passage. The menâs commitment level or the presence of âloveâ is not addressed. The idea that the condemned same-sex activity is linked to economic exploitation or abuse is also a forced reading with no textual basis. Paulâs reference to âhomosexuals,â together with a reference to âeffeminateâ men in the same verse (in the NASB), effectively covers both active and passive homosexual behavior. Godâs Word is not open to personal interpretation in this matter. Homosexuality is wrong; it always has been, and it always will be. â
https://www.gotquestions.org/arsenokoitai.html
Thank you for informing me! See, another problem is, the Bible was written by man. Not by God. Itâs a product of its time. Regardless of meaning, there are many arbitrary rules in the Bible that no longer apply to todayâs society, this being one of them.
Canât eat shrimp.
Canât wear mixed fabrics.
Canât get a divorce.
Just saying, if youâre gonna be nit picky about following the Bibleâs rules, either follow all of them or let people live their lives. You canât just go through the Bible and pick and choose what to follow and what not to follow. That wasnât the disciplines intention.
Love is love.
you canât claim that the Bible is written by man so that means itâs okay to dismiss things you disagree with, cause then by that logic the parts on salvation and Godâs love can also be dismissed and not true because they were âââwritten by manâââ.
also
âLeviticus says not to eat shellfish (Lev. 11:9-12), use mixed seed or fabrics (Lev. 19:19), harvest the corners of fields (Lev. 19:9), and that homosexuality is wrong (Lev. 18:22; 20:13). Â If homosexuality is wrong because Leviticus says so, then shouldnât we also obey the other laws about shellfish, seed, fabrics, and fields because that is in Leviticus as well? Â If not, then why not? Â Why would Christians pick and choose what parts of the Bible to follow?
First of all, not all of Leviticus is written to everyone.  There were abominations that applied only to the Jews such as eating shellfish, rabbit, and pork, etc., which were things that typologically represented purity before the Lord.  We know this because God says, âSpeak to the sons of Israel sayingâŚâ  He gives instructions to the Israelites, not to the rest of the nations.
Here is a list of instances when the occurrence of the phrase âSpeak to the Sons of Israel sayingâŚâ is found in Leviticus, the book under consideration.
Lev. 4:2, atonement for unintentional sins
Lev. 7:23, donât eat fat from ox, sheep, or goat
Lev. 7:29, procedures for peace offering to the Lord
Lev. 11:2, list of animals the Israelites may eat
Lev. 12:2, uncleanness after giving birth
Lev. 23:24, rest on 1st day of 7th month
Lev. 23:34, Feast of Booths on 15th day of 7th month
Lev. 24:15, the one cursing God will bear his sin
So, we can see a host of things that dealt only with Israel.
However, there are abominations that did not apply only to Israel, but to everyone else also. Â Again, letâs look at Leviticus.
Lev. 18:22-30, âYou shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. 23 Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion. 24 Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled 25 âFor the land has become defiled, therefore I have visited its punishment upon it, so the land has spewed out its inhabitants. 26 But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and My judgments, and shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor the alien who sojourns among you 27 (for the men of the land who have been before you have done all these abominations, and the land has become defiled); 28 so that the land may not spew you out, should you defile it, as it has spewed out the nation which has been before you. 29 âFor whoever does any of these abominations, those persons who do so shall be cut off from among their people. 30 âThus you are to keep My charge, that you do not practice any of the abominable customs which have been practiced before you, so as not to defile yourselves with them; I am the Lord your God.ââ
What abominations is Lev. 18:22-30 speaking of? Â Contextually, chapter 17 is about blood atonement procedures, so that is for Israel, not for everyone. Â In Chapter 18 God says to Israel, âYou shall not do what is done in the land of Egypt where you lived, nor are you to do what is done in the land of Canaan where I am bringing you,â (Lev. 18:3). Â So, now instead of it applying only to Israel, God mentions things that are done by Egypt and the land of Canaan. Â What were the things those nations did? Â The chapter contains the following.
Lev. 18:6-18, donât uncover the nakedness of various relatives.
Lev. 18:19, donât have sexual relations with woman on her period
Lev. 18:20, donât have intercourse with your neighborâs wife
Lev. 18:21, donât offer children to Molech
Lev. 18:22, donât lie with a male as with a female
Lev. 18:23 donât have intercourse with animals.
So, we see there are requirements in Leviticus only for the Israelites, and there are lists of abominations spoken of that were for the non-Israelites as well. Â It is in the latter group that homosexuality is listed. Â It is a mistake for people to mix topics intended only for Israel with topics that included the non-Israelites. Â Furthermore, when we see that the New Testament condemns the idea of homosexuality in Romans 1:26-27, we could see the continuity between Old Testament moral law and New Testament moral law.
Three divisions of the Law in Leviticus
A common mistake made by homosexual proponents when discussing the Old Testament, in particular, Leviticus, is the failure to understand the three main divisions of the Law: Â civil, ceremonial, and moral. Â This is important because the civil and ceremonial law are not in effect now, but the moral law is. Â Letâs take a look at these divisions within the book of Leviticus since it is the book under examination.
Civil - Expired with the demise of the Jewish civil government
Ceremonial - Expired with the fulfillment of priestly work of Christ (Matt. 3:15)
Moral - No Expiration because it is based on Godâs character. Â "You shall be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy,â (Lev. 19:2)
Justice practices (Lev. 24:17-23)
Law of property redemption (Lev. 25)
Be just with the poor, (Lev. 19:15)
Do not hate in your heart (Lev. 19:17)
Retain just scales in commerce (Lev. 19:35f)
Robbery, extortion, false witness, and restitution (Lev. 6:1-7)
Various sacrificial offerings for sin (Lev. 1,2,3,4,5,6)
Priestly duties (Lev. 7:1-37)
Laws on animals for food (Lev. 11:1-47)
Cleaning house of leper (Lev. 14:33-57)
Law of Atonement (Lev. 16:1-28;17:1-16)
Regulations for Priests (Lev. 21,22)
Festivals (Lev. 23:1-25)
Do not steal or lie (Lev. 19:11)
Do not oppress your neighbor (Lev. 19:13)
No idolatry (Lev. 26:1-13)
Donât sacrifice children to Molech (Lev. 20:1-5)
Donât commit adultery, incest, bestiality, homosexuality, etc. (Lev. 20:9-21)
You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Lev. 19:18)
Homosexuality is under the moral law category.  In addition, as stated earlier, it is an abomination practiced by all people (Egypt and Canaan), not just the Israelites.  Therefore, we see that the moral aspects of the Law are still in effect, but not the civil or ceremonial.  Again, there were things addressed to Israel only where God said: âspeak to the sons of Israel sayingâŚâ  These things included atonement for unintentional sins, eating habits, uncleanness, feast days, rest days, etc., which do not apply to us today.
Should we also dismiss the commands not to lie, steal, or commit adultery?
If, as some argue, we are not under the Law and therefore we can dismiss Leviticus along with its clear condemnation of homosexuality, then shouldnât we also dismiss Levitical teachings that warn against lying (Lev. 19:11), theft (Lev. 19:13), bearing false witness (Lev. 19:16), hating your fellow man (Lev. 19:17), exacting vengeance (Lev. 19:18), avoiding unjust balances (Lev. 19:36), sacrificing children (Lev. 20:1-5), committing adultery (Lev. 20:10), committing incest (Lev. 20:11-14), and the practice of bestiality (Lev. 20:15-16)? Â Of course not.
Furthermore, if we are to basically dump the book of Leviticus because it is Old Testament law, then why are parts of Leviticus quoted in the New Testament as still being valid?
     LeviticusNew Testament
Lev. 19:2, âSpeak to all the congregation of the sons of Israel and say to them, âYou shall be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy.â
1 Pet. 1:16, âbecause it is written, âYou shall be holy, for I am holy.ââ
Lev. 19:18, ââYou shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the Lord.â
Matt. 22:39, âThe second is like it, âYou shall love your neighbor as yourself.ââ
Lev. 26:12, âI will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.â
2 Cor. 6:16, âOr what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, âI will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.ââ
Are we to dismiss Leviticus along with the idea of being holy, of loving our neighbor, and that God will walk among us in the person of Jesus? Â Of course not. Â To do so by saying we are not under the Law displays deep theological ignorance and exegetical prejudice. There are certainly aspects of Leviticus which are no longer applicable to us today (civil and ceremonial), but there are other parts that still are, as is stated above in the moral aspect of the Law that was intended as admonitions not just against Israel but the other nations as well.
Finally, when we see that the New Testament also condemns homosexuality, it is clear that we cannot just dismiss Leviticus as a whole along with its moral regulations on sexual activity. Â Homosexuality is clearly condemned in Leviticus and its condemnation cannot be dismissed by saying we are no longer under Old Testament Law.â
https://carm.org/leviticus-homosexuality-old-testament-law
@starrtoon You are a champ for this fantastic summary






















