Every time Will Byers was a cutie pie in s5

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Every time Will Byers was a cutie pie in s5

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talking about something i hate to someone who agrees with me: this is awful. not even fit for dogs.
talking about something i hate to someone who enjoys it: I'm sure it's good to people who like it
Do I even need to say it
people get so up in arms over avoiding stereotypical gay couples that they think people who fit those “stereotypes” shouldn’t exist or be represented at all which just circles around to hating visible queer people
elf cleric will with long long locks. he blushes when his paladin tucks it behind his ear and asks mike to help him braid it before battle.

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“i literally NEVER said anything about gender or gender expression the anons are the ones bringing that up”
I thought that’s why people see Will as a quintessential bottom, no?
People say they can’t imagine him being anything else but I’m confused on what that means then
Like most of the reasons folks give seem to revolve around gendered traits - even the post you reblogged brought up passivity, allegedly not liking to take the lead, etc. all while claiming it’s not about gender
which one is it 😭
If people shouldn’t subvert expectations, then doesn’t that mean they should keep them?
And what are expectations if not gendered?
“Vibes”… based on what?
I feel like people forget Will has an edge. Like he was actively flirting with Mike in the field, was he not?
I thought that's why people see Will as a quintessential bottom, no?
ermmmm no? you guys clearly think that since you keep saying it but i never said that. maybe some people have that reason but not universally
Like most of the reasons folks give seem to revolve around gendered traits - even the post you reblogged brought up passivity, allegedly not liking to take the lead, etc. all while claiming it's not about gender
YOU are the one identifying these as gendered traits. the post you are referring to described these neutrally just as characteristics will has. it’s not: will has these traits -> these are feminine traits -> will is feminine -> therefore will is a bottom. it’s that will has certain preferences which lend themselves more to that kind of role. them being considered feminine isn’t a part of the thought process. and what do you mean ‘allegedly’?
people seem to have this attitude that sexual preferences must exist in a vacuum completely separate from all other aspects of their life and personality, but when all we have is their personality and theyre fictional i’m confused where you want people to get their reasoning from? you seem to think it must either be completely neutral and they’re both vers or you have to go based on their personality and then just completely flip it? i’m obviously not the best person to exemplify this, but i know that my sexuality is very tied to my personality and psychology my general preferences in life.
If people shouldn't subvert expectations, then doesn't that mean they should keep them?
And what are expectations if not gendered?
i’m not saying you can’t subvert expectations at all, but there seems to be no rhyme or reason behind doing so. i also am not saying anyone HAS to have the same opinion as me at all. i didn’t say ‘nobody should think will would top’ i just said i don’t know why people think that and i disagree. expectations are often gendered, but in this case i am talking about expectations based mostly on personality. both for will and mike.
"Vibes" … based on what?
well the whole point of vibes is they aren’t really based on anything. but maybe the aspects of his character that chloe mentioned 🤷🏻♀️
I feel like people forget Will has an edge. Like he was actively flirting with Mike in the field, was he not?
now this just makes me laugh. an edge? flirting with someone means you have an edge?? 😭 i don’t think being flirty is strictly non-bottom behaviour at all 😭 it’s like how people will use screenshots of mike being attracted to will as proof he wants will to top him 😭 like attraction and flirting in itself is not a signifier of sexual roles, it kinda has to go both ways…
looking at my inbox and seeing all the asks I forgot to answer from like april… oh
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HOW COULD YOU SAY THIS TO ME? wow. rude. blocked.
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this is the meanest thing someone has ever said to me. gonna go cry you meanie pants.
Ummmmm youre stupid because you think will can’t top? And im better than you. And so on
the only thing will is topping is the ao3 bottom charts

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every time I try to participate in discourse the hate anons always go to my friends who rb the post instead of me. what the hell. I want anon hate too. put ‘em up.
thinking about will’s first time at the beach in california when they moved, i hope for a split second he was happy ngl
yall are so fucking weird about gnc people. a woman wears a suit and she's "conforming to the patriarchy". a man wears a skirt and he's Secretly A Trans Egg. have you considered It's Fabric
You would not believe the things I have heard as a transfem butch.
I once said something along the lines of "why does everyone assume that every gnc cis man is an egg" and was harassed for it and sarcastically told that obviously the treatment of cis men should be our biggest concern and that I didn't know anything about egg culture (I do). You do realize that gnc people are queer too, right? You realize I can concern myself with "smaller" problems, because I love gnc people and am concerned about their well-being? You realize that telling people they must be trans because of their presentation is just as bad as telling someone must be cis for the same reasons?
I'm never going to shut up about how shitty the queer community treats gender non-conforming people, especially gender non-conforming men.
also the treatment of gnc cis men tells me a lot about how you'd treat gnc trans men. like, you think that if a man likes feminine clothing he's secretly a woman? do you know how many people have told me i'm not "actually trans" because i like feminine clothing? stop reinforcing gender norms i am Begging
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it’s funny how b!mikers say it’s problematic to assume will is a bottom bc he’s more feminine and smaller, etc bc that’s actually not the reason why I think will would be a bottom. they’re the ones who assume we associate will’s femininity with his bedroom preferences. so I guess they’re the “misogynistic stereotypers” here? on that note, I think will would bottom because he doesn’t like physical activity at all, is more passive, and prefers mike to take the lead when it comes to physical affection. will’s gncness and his bottomness occupy separate spaces in my mind.
and the same is true for mike. t!mike isn’t about his masculinity, it’s about how he likes to take care of will (through action), be a leader, and every time will initiated physical affection, mike was weird about it. isn’t it a little ironic how all b!mikers also believe in femmike while hating b!will for the same reason? hmm. subversion isn’t revolutionary!

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