Every time Will Byers was a cutie pie in s5
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Every time Will Byers was a cutie pie in s5

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why are people saying will byers doesn’t blush and swoon and have hearts in his eyes why are they lying?
certain bylrs will see a character who’s canonically an effeminate gay man, who’s gender nonconformity is extremely important to his character arc, and instead of embracing that they’ll masculinize him until he’s basically an oc they can ship finn wolfhard with.
Yup! Emphasis on the Finn Wolfhard part. They saw Finn be a little androgynous in a photoshoot once when he was 17 and suddenly Mike is fem even though Finn dresses and acts completely different now. Also because of Mike’s fugly bob. Characters and actors are not the same.
If people don’t want to explore Will’s femininity or agree with our femWill hcs, that’s fine! It’s just annoying how hypocritical they can be. They’ll be all up in arms over stereotypical gender roles, then say the weirdest shit about what makes someone masculine. They only hate femininity. If they were at least consistent, maybe I’d respect their opinions more.
what’s masculine desire again? is that where you want to have sex? and feminine desire is…swooning and drawing hearts? right right got it
Will didn’t doodle hearts around Mike’s name he wrote it in BIG BOLD LETTERS and added guns

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every post about #that topic will start "stop feminizing will and reinforcing gender roles" then say some crazy shit like "will masculine because boy make hrny deep art, not girl surface level art about love"
WIP. don't know if I'm gonna finish it though 🫠
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Will absolutely does swoon and blush and hide his face behind his palms and geek out and get all gushy over his crushes
We’ve been going in circles with this conversation for years, but the attitudes surrounding GNC/FemWill frustrate me so much.
Yes, within canon Will doesn’t DRESS particularly feminine. But he is perceived as having feminine TRAITS, especially within the 80s. I think a lot of the confusion here is people not understanding where Will’s homophobic bullying came from. Many gay men who were bullied at a young age weren’t bullied because they showed attraction to boys, but because they were perceived as feminine. Feminine men are seen as gay.
Will is called a “fairy” in s1 which is defined as a derogatory term against effeminate men. This is CANONICAL confirmation that Will is feminine. The insistence that Will is masculine is incorrect and erases a very important piece of Will’s character. He’s GNC. He possesses both feminine and masculine traits, but leans more feminine.
Claiming that Will fans who say he’s feminine are being “stereotypical” and making “the gay one the girl” is ridiculous. We are not the ones saying sensitivity, shyness, and a damsel role are feminine. That’s just factually how society views those traits. We aren’t agreeing with gender norms, we’re explaining how Will fits outside of them. If you have an issue with making a gay character feminine, take it up with the writers who made him that way.
I agree that Will isn’t hyperfem in canon. If we were to keep closest to canon, I think Will would explore gender expression by dabbling in nail polish, maybe a little eyeliner and mascara, and lots of jewelry. But if someone wants to push his exploration even further into dresses, there’s nothing wrong with that. Will wore a purple robe that was akin to a dress. It’s not that far of a stretch to say he would wear dresses considering he already enjoys the way wizard robes look/feel on him.
And all this hullabaloo about “canon” is silly. Mike is canonically straight, yet no one has an issue with making him gay. They only seem to have a problem with fanon when it comes to a feminine gay man. Remember “making the gay one a girl?” Oh so they agree Mike is straight now? Interesting how Mike’s canonical straightness is only believed when it’s time to hate on FemWill. Hm.
Then they’ll say it’s heteronormative to make byler a mascfem relationship because it feminizes Will. How is putting a man in a feminine role heteronormative? How is making two men kiss heteronormative? That’s a misunderstanding of how queer relationships work. Mascfem and butchfemme relationships have always been subversive. In media, most queer ships are two feminine women and two masculine men. If you believe otherwise, you’re just wrong. I wish I lived in your world.
Most of this backlash against “stereotyping” is likely a dislike for people who are visibly queer. Are they stereotypes? Do they set back progress for existing? FemWill antis think they’re above gender norms for insisting that a gay man is super masc, but they’re actually just arguing “let men be masculine.” That’s why these conversations always end up at: “They’re both BOYS! Stop making him a GIRL!” Wearing feminine clothing or having a feminine personality doesn’t make someone a girl. That’s a homophobic and transphobic ideology.
And sexist. Because why is feminine Will ridiculed but not masculine Will? They yell about “stereotypes,” yet turn around and say Will is masculine because he shot a gun and killed some demogorgons. Who’s being stereotypical now? They only take issue with stereotyping femininity because society has negative connotations with it.
Feminine gay men already face enough vitriol from heterosexuals, they don’t need fellow queer people acting like they’re catering to heteronormativity. Notice how that makes no fucking sense? How is something heterosexuals DESPISE heteronormative?
If Will weren’t canonically GNC, maybe this would be a different conversation. Maybe it would be harmful stereotyping. But he’s GNC. He’s feminine. Not in clothing, but the idea of Will finding comfortability in femininity and exploring it outwardly is not a bad thing. In fact, he already has with more jewelry in the finale. Woah? Canon?
There’s nothing wrong with femininity. There’s nothing wrong with gay men who fit outside the norm. If you don’t care to explore this in your fanon, that’s fine, just leave the people who do alone and stop acting like you’re more moral for not caring about feminine gay men.

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oh god the pain is unbearable
I’m so unqualified for this what did I get myself into
Nerd Will Byers is so important to me. Will Byers who listens to LOTR and SW music on repeat while drawing and cares about the little details of the lore and world building in everything he reads and watches. Will Byers who laughs at goofy science jokes and wants the science in sci-fi to make sense. Will Byers who draws ocs while in class and makes them have a whole backstory. Will Byers the film critic since before adolescence. Will Byers who lets himself be freely and openly nerdy and is proud of that part in himself.
Funniest thing about Mike Wheeler is that he had probably the most niche type to ever exist in the history of the world but he was still somehow able to not only find two people that fit this type perfectly but who were also completely obsessed with him. Like deeply, madly, embarrassingly in love with this idiot. And then he still proceeded to fumble both of these people at a degree never seen before.

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