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Overdo text posts, 1/?
Overdo text posts, 1/?
just two insane people validating each other's madness oh my god

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*deep breaths* finally continuing with episode 16 after i've calmed down lmao five minutes in and i'm already pissed 😂
"i never thought of hurting him!"
impact vs. intent gurl what. EVER.
the difference in the discussions about Overdo on twitter and tumbler...
this is why i talk about it here and retweet pretty pictures on twitter
the difference in the discussions about Overdo on twitter and tumbler...
this is why i talk about it here and retweet pretty pictures on twitter
glad we're all in agreement that MRQY (and RSS, but more so MRQY) are both psych ward escapees pretending to be functioning members of society
(may the heavens bless da'ge he is a saint pls dont give up on baby bro 😣)
glad we're all in agreement that MRQY (and RSS, but more so MRQY) are both psych ward escapees pretending to be functioning members of society
(may the heavens bless da'ge he is a saint pls dont give up on baby bro 😣)

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I can't stop thinking about this, because it's not actually that insane. The problem the first time Qingyi went to prison, and why his brother is right to feel guilty, is because both the Murong and Li families rejected Qingyi so publicly that the Huo family didn't think there would be any consequences for abusing him. Which is why that awful Li father was also correct that they weren't protecting Qingyi properly and it was an insult to both of their families.
But now that Qingyi knows his brother will defend him, and Qingyu has defended him in public multiple times, Qingyi's immunity is getting stronger (everyone just lets him kill those grunts in front of the police) but he's also just using it to do more insane things. Before, when he didn't have support, he was more cautious. Well somewhat, because he's always set his own safety at zero.
Qingyu trying to protect Qingyi is totally backfiring. It's like now that he knows he has a seat belt he's ignoring the fact that going 200km an hour is still dangerous, seat belt or not. He's like those asshole scion characters who do whatever they want because they know their father will cover for them, except he's not going to brothels or beating servants, he's trying to help a girl murder people.
@aysekira and I were discussing that the only person in MRQY’s life who loves him unconditionally is his brother but that is not helping ML at all because he’s too damaged and so precisely because he knows his da’ge will always take care of him, he does not glom on to that emotionally.
Because of his horrific childhood, I think ML keeps chasing, keeps being addicted to the need to try to win over the impossible - look at his utter lack of love from three of the four parents and what he got from his adoptive mother - it’s like his modus operandi is keep throwing himself on knives to see if he can win the impossible (love and devotion) if he sacrifices enough. If he does it’s like healing the childhood or something.
He is like one of those men who can only get off if someone beats them but in an emotional version of the same.
And because da’ge’s love is freely offered and easily given, it does not satisfy his need. He relies on it and he loves his brother, but it cannot give him what he craves.
I think he’s even more fucked up than FL because she at least had some sliver of normalcy in her family as a young child. ML basically opened his eyes to abuse and when he got taken at 12, it could very well have been too late even if he did get a loving family instead of what he got (da’ge may have tried but one teen boy is not enough to fix that when the rest is what it is.)
As to the happy ending - I can’t even imagine what that would look like for these two. Like let’s say they survived and ended up together. Then what? I cannot imagine their long term. They are not well, and I don’t think they are capable of healing together but also I think he chases this impossibility, this edge and if and when it’s gone, eventually he will be lost (one of the reasons the early relationship worked was because it was so brief - 3 months is prime honeymoon period.)
Neither of them even wants to escape or change but more than that I just don’t think either is capable of long term happiness.
Yes! To all of it but yeah I don't totally know what a happy ending would even look like, I hope they end it well 🤞 (logically that is, it doesn't need to be happy)
Also, this is a rare drama for me where the ML's undying devotion makes total sense but it's also not presented as swoon-worthy, it's deeply unhealthy and everyone knows that. Qingyi is chasing 3 brief months of happiness that were followed by three year of suffering and he doesn't care. He should care!
Yes!
One of the things I love about this is that the narrative is very clear this relationship is unhealthy and bad, that these people are incredibly fucked up and bad for each other. None of that “showing one thing but trying to convince you it’s a different thing.”
There is a level of horror to it all, tbh because none of this is a demonstration of how much he loves her. It’s all a demonstration of how destroyed he is on a fundamental level.
And the thing is - I am fully on board with believing she loves him as much as it’s possible for her to love another person. But while her manner of loving satisfies the fucked up part of him to a t, it’s very much not the kind of love he needs for healing or living as a functional individual. But the tragic thing is if he got some healthy warm love, he wouldn’t want it or know what to do with it. He can only process love through giving or receiving hurt.
And they both find it much easier to die for each other than to live with each other.
It’s a spiral with no out.
I do think he had a chance 3 years ago when he was with her, invested in his job, and had started healing as we see with him realising devotion exists (the tuberculosis couple who are willing to die for each other) and reaching out to his brother. But then Ren Susu claiming her love was all an act and "dying" broke him again and I don't know if he can come back from that (as a character).
Because now he's cut off forever from the career he loved, he thought his brother abandoned him in prison which messed him up further even though they're reconciled now, and with his obsession girl back... He doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell.
AAAHHHHH I KNEW THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN. of course Qingyu would absolutely hate Susu when he learns the truth, and with good reason too! i'm on HIS SIDE because the way everything's going...i don't even want Qingyi and Susu to end up together.
i understand Susu's actions and the motivation behind it, but that doesn't justify the irreparable damage it's done to Qingyi. she's shown several times that her mission comes before everything else, and after the difficult life Qingyi's lived, i don't want him to end up with someone who claims to love him while also consistently using him and their history for her benefit.
and i totally hate that the Murong brothers might be in conflict because of Susu, not when they just made up 😭 the only person who was always ALWAYS on Qingyi's side....i'm sick yall i do not like this at all.
"For her, you would kill me?" BROTHER QINGYU PLS I BEG FOR UR UNDERSTANDING DONT BE MAAAD 😭💔
(so i was watching ep 16 but i had to stop and write this bc that preview upset me so much omgfjfhdjfjfj)
Qingyu is going to do his best to save his brother from himself 🥺
the killer is Qingyi doesn't even know he needs saving he's gonna resent Qingyu for "coming in between" him and Susu and i only hope da'ge doesnt get tired of being there for him, OR Qingyi will leverage his own life to protect both his brother and Susu....already this is pissing me off i'm holding off on watching eps 16 onwards i need to calm down 😂
Ren Susu: of course I am not in love with him lmao also Ren Susu, bleeding from a bullet wound in the snow and presumably fighting multiple fractures: *reaches out to pick up the flower Murong Qingyi gave to her before she shot herself*
he's also probably a 'lil mad. not that I'm complaining. good god, what a scene.
see what bugs me about this too is that it doesn't matter to Qingyi how badly Susu treats him. he's been beaten, broken, abused, Susu represents the one good thing in his life that he chose, and who also chose him (in the past). he's probably thinking, he'll take what he can get, and he's also holding onto hope that Susu still loves him (she does but that's besides the point). he Will Not Let Go, and Susu knows that too.
Susu, of course, has been equally traumatized. but where Qingyi is resigned to his life, Susu has at least decided on a path that gave her purpose. she's committed to that which says so much about her character, and also the reason why i think she should be the one taking a stand here. either keep Qingyi in her life or cut him off permanently although the fact she chose to marry into the Murong family is already questionable but whatever!
they have a painful lack of self-preservation and self-worth, and staying together is just so destructive to both of them. this relationship is TOXIC as hell 😭

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when she shows up at the hospital and that scene and
Lady, you have just basically threatened him with his bro's well being you are just deepening his (not incorrect) belief that you are an unhinged manipulator who will use and ruin his brother.
By now he thinks she's a sociopath with no feeling for MRQY whatsoever and on facts presented, it's logical.
The rate you are going, he's going to off you himself somewhere where nobody can see.
AAAHHHHH I KNEW THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN. of course Qingyu would absolutely hate Susu when he learns the truth, and with good reason too! i'm on HIS SIDE because the way everything's going...i don't even want Qingyi and Susu to end up together.
i understand Susu's actions and the motivation behind it, but that doesn't justify the irreparable damage it's done to Qingyi. she's shown several times that her mission comes before everything else, and after the difficult life Qingyi's lived, i don't want him to end up with someone who claims to love him while also consistently using him and their history for her benefit.
and i totally hate that the Murong brothers might be in conflict because of Susu, not when they just made up 😭 the only person who was always ALWAYS on Qingyi's side....i'm sick yall i do not like this at all.
"For her, you would kill me?" BROTHER QINGYU PLS I BEG FOR UR UNDERSTANDING DONT BE MAAAD 😭💔
(so i was watching ep 16 but i had to stop and write this bc that preview upset me so much omgfjfhdjfjfj)