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i have something else unpopular to say about bloodymary [guy standing on soap box image]
In terms of aggression, Grace is significantly more prone to it than Simon. (Well, at least when it comes to the length of their fuses before they blowāAKA how much they will take before flying off the handle)
In Iron Lung we do see Simon angry a lot, but honestly when it comes to his situation heās still, like, disturbingly calm about it (this is bc heās accepted the punishment, but I will elaborate on how heās still weird). He flies off the handle a few times, but theyāre all with good reason.
The first time (I can recall) that he really loses it is when he blasts everyone with radiation, but he does this as a last resort after nobody pays attention to his concerns about there being a monster with him in the blood oceanāActually he does this as his last last resort, since he actually fucks with every button in the sub before walking over to the camera. And immediately after being told what the camera actually is he completely shrinks up, just mumbling ā..i didnāt.. i didnāt knowā¦ā and he obviously feels really bad about it because once Jack comes back to talk to him (after being treated for the radiation) he awkwardly apologizes in the middle of their conversation.
He also yells at Ava when she comes back on the speaker, but thatās after an extremely vivid hallucination where he spoke to another āsurvivorā for god knows how long before realizing this entire person was fake. But, like, heās yelling out of fear thereādesperation, evenābecause now heās scared that sheās not real either.
The only other time (I can recall) that he really flies off the handle is when his sub is being, like, actively attacked by Ellie, and Iād argue thatās not even āflying off the handleā considering how reasonable of a reaction it is to try and fight off a giant monster thatās not only chasing your ship but also telepathically harassing you.
Now, Grace? Ryland Grace? The guy whose life is average as all hell? Called another scientist āa staggering waste of carbonā for simply debating his āall life doesnāt need water to evolveā theory.
When it comes to Rocky? Grace literally rants to a camera about him just invading his personal space, thatās it. When Rocky moves in Grace is so bewildered and frustrated with the process of setting up his xenonite walls, and at that point in time the two of them were pretty much already friends.
I think the reason why everyone leans towards Simon being the more aggressive one is because his anger is taken seriously by the narrative, while Graceās is played for laughs.
But let me just say, Simon is not aggressive, thatās not his first responseāHeās afraid, but then heās brave, we see this with the hallucinations he gets of himself (where heās frozen with fear until he realizes he has to fight this thing off if he wants to be safe). Heās been almost completely stripped of his āflightā option, so thatās whatās forcing him to āfightā. (he still does run like hell as much as he can, though, as seen when he taunts Ellie and then slaps a binder on the control lever to speed away backwards) To me, most of his aggression honestly reflects an animal caught in a trap; He wouldnāt be acting like this if he could just run away.
Grace on the other hand? His first reaction is āfightā. No, heās not beating the shit out of people, but that doesnāt mean heās not fighting. Heās always fighting, and once āfightā doesnāt work, heās absolutely on board with āflightā (as seen once heās literally backed into a corner during his final conversation with Stratt), but thatās never his first reaction.
When theyāre going to send him to space? Heās arguing like hell first, then heās running. When he wakes up on the Hail Mary? Fights Armando, then runs away. When Rocky throws that xenonite map at the Hail Mary? Graceās first thought is to say āshields upā like heās on a sci-fi fighter ship, which implies he was fully ready to start blasting Rockyās ship with lasers if that was the case; And even when being told there are no shields, his next instinct is not to fly the ship away, itās to freeze in his seat as he sits and waits for what he assumed may be a missile to hit his ship.
In conclusion, Simon would not beat the shit out of Grace once they meet, he would instead run like hell. If Simon did, however, ever end up purposely hitting Grace, Grace would either hit back or yell at him.
Grace takes no shit, Simon takes all shit that wonāt get him killed (and he might even take some of that, too). Thank you for coming to another one of my Bloodymary talks, iāve been your host who cannot stand mischaracterization and will never apologize for it.
Coltland Gentry universe, Stratt's sent Ryland off to space (she did NOT know he had a twin and an older brother) and she randomly catches some interview with Colt on tv while she's in prison and her heart just fucking SINKS when he mentions his twin brother being involved with 'cool space science stuff' because the likelihood of a man that looked EXACTLY like the world's sacrificial lamb having a scientist twin was...slim to none. and she's not stupid, she can see the expressions he makes and there's no way it could be anyone else. right down to the nose scrunch when he laughs.
she makes a few calls, Colt finds out what happened to Ryland (in a 'sanitized for the public' way), and then *whoops* Sierra fucking Six is kidnapping her from prison and demanding real answers about his baby brother. Eva Stratt, for the first time, has Regrets.
coming back to this 'cause it's funny, but i think the two of them having a standoff would be so funny- they both just stonewall each other until Court gets tired of it and pulls out a gun, but she just stares at it and back at him like 'sir this is the least of my worries rn' and he's both concerned and absolutely baffled because he was not expecting this and didn't plan for it
Colt, meanwhile, is sobbing on Jody because wtf else can he do??? his baby (by five whole minutes) brother is gone and he can't get him back. he tried getting their uncle Holland to track him down before he found out Ryland was IN SPACE and Holland's drinking heavier than usual once he finds out-
i'm having fun with this can you tell
what other family members should i chuck into this mess
Driver and/or Lars. Like. Imagine both those boys finding out a member of their family is gone forever and they canāt get him back. Thinking about a triplet driver/ryland/colt situation and Lars as a cousin or something. Plus adding in an uncle Holland and maybe another cousin in Sebastian or even Jacob would be both hysterical and devastating. Especially because Jacob, Lars and Sebastian all have (relatively) normal lives that a normal human being could have, whereas the disgraced scientist, government sanctioned (not really) weapon, the broken stuntman, the drunken detective, and the silent secret getaway driver all have weird experiences. Hell Lars still fits in the weirdness because of his delusions. Jacob being a playboy is hilarious personally because that man would HATE Tom Ryder I think, and Sebastian is just very confused about his family and wonders why theyāre all insane lmao
distant cousin Ken that nobody's heard from in fifteen years.
he emerges out of the woodwork one day smelling like plastic and strawberries and he finds out about Grace and the poor boy is starstruck, he doesn't understand the gravity of the situation and goes all starry-eyed like "His new job is SPACE?!!" and he cannot for the life of him figure out why everybody's so sad, who would be sad with a cool job like space??
someone has to sit him down and explain that Grace can't come back and then they have to deal with big sad puppy eyes (it's probably Lars and Driver gently explaining it to him, bless them both, they're the only ones with the patience for his [K]energy) and poor Ken's just beside himself with worry because his little cousin is lost somewhere in space and can't come home now. even if he does have a cool job, that's scary!
Letās gently not tell him that Ryland will die in space, yeah? Thatād crush the poor guy and thatād be sad and also no one would want to deal with mopey Ken. Imagine Ken going to Stratt in prison and like heās not the first one she meets so sheās already dreading ANOTHER Grace relative but she is wholly unprepared for Ken and his hesitation question if how long the trip will take and how long he has to wait to see his favourite cousin and if there was a possible way he could send Ryland something to remember him by? And Stratt can feel tears even if they donāt fall and all her guards are balling and whichever family member escorted him is shaking too because theyāre all wondering the same thing, personally think it should be Driver because he can actually intimidate Stratt to an extent (lovely personal headcanon tbh(Iām crying about it)) and sheās never seen him this emotional and itās getting to her even more and sheās quietly asking her contacts to send a probe to the Hail Mary with messages from his entire family.
And but this point I think Ryland wouldāve woken up and probably just met Rocky when he sees a human probe heading towards him and is highly concerned about what could be on it. And all of these messages from people who he thinks he should know and who all look very similar to him and he, rightfully, and depressingly, comes to the conclusion that he had a family and he still doesnāt know why heās in space but he knows he left people behind and so he makes a log about it to send back to Earth and heās crying and telling them he doesnāt remember his family and heās desperately sorry he canāt be with them. And then he gets all of his memories back after visiting Rockyās ship and makes one last log telling his family goodbye and he loves them and he misses them and he finally remembers them and heās sorry a million times over that he couldnāt stay on earth but he knows what he has to do to save them all and heās crying again and Rocky is silently observing this and quietly gives Ryland more fuel to get him quicker without him knowing which ends up being the reason they make it to Erid before Ryland starves to death and Ryland was only working with the calculations of what Rocky told him and he thinks heās not gonna make it but they do and just in time for him to be stable.
Hey so ānother funny idea. Stastuck. Walk with me here.
Tom, in prison, sees the Hail Mary launch (every tv in the world is only showing it) and sees whoās on board. Sees his ex he never got over. And starts begging the guards to let him have his phone call. He calls Colt. Wtf is Ryland doing going to space on a suicide mission???? Colt, reluctant, tells him Ryland didnāt want to go. Ryder is desperate for a way to make amends with this family and begs Colt for a way to repay SOMEONE for how good Ryland was to him. Colt only asks for an apology for being an uncalled for dick to him and a sincere promise to get better. Ryder readily gives this. Prison has changed him heās had a lot of time to reflect on his action.
Anyway, about a week later a stranger with a familiar face breaks him out and heās got a new lawyer, who suspiciously also has a similar face and doesnāt act like a lawyer at all. They get him into therapy and it turns out drugs and alcohol mixing have had an extremely not good mix with his already undiagnosed issues (havenāt fully watched fall guy get so idk what Iād give him but people tend to go with OCD/Bipolar/something else I canāt remember off the top of my head but reads like historic personality disorder) and so he gets proper medication for his issues and a lot of therapy and a massive support system in the extended fam. He turns out to be really good with Clair and Holly surprisingly. And it spurs him into teaching, also motivated by knowing just how much his Ry loved teaching.
Also Tom is terrified of Rylands entire family (including Colt but heāll never tell him that) and then gets absolutely flabbergasted by Ken when he finally meets this mysterious estranged cousin they donāt talk about much. They hit it off, much to the chagrin of everyone else, they are insufferably corny and both very theatre kids and they let everyone know.
Anyway getting off track
Tom also has a message for Ryland. Itās short and sweet and heās so different to how Ryland remembers him. Heās grown his natural hair out and itās shoulder length and curly and a really nice dark brown. He looks worn and tired but he also looks alive in the way Rylands only ever seen when heās in front of the camera and heās. Heās shining and Ryland thinks heās beautiful like this and his voice is softer and has a quality about it that Ryland himself has from teaching and he wonders what Tom teaches (theatre wouldāve been his guess but he actually teaches English (both literature and language. Idk if thatās a distinction that happens in America but it does here in the uk so imma go with it) he loves seeing the stories the children come up with and how out of the box children approach things they donāt completely understand) and Ryland regrets leaving even more.
Toms message is just him giving Ryland a small life update. Out of prison and in therapy. Medicated. Living a full and good life among Rylands many relatives. His adventures with Ken (ryland loves these idiots and is glad Tom doesnāt feel too outcast by his, frankly, terrifying family) and all about how heās glad that he called Colt instead of, like, Gail or someone and heās so incredibly grateful for the second change Colt gave him, heās very very aware of just how differently that conversation couldāve gone. And he ends the message with just a simple āI love youā but thereās so much more behind it and so much more heād never be able to tell Ryland and heās ugly crying by the end and he just wishes that none of this ever happened.
Tom gets a very lengthy message when the Beatles return and heās both dreading watching it and out of his mind with excitement and he, hesitantly, asks Colt to watch it with him because he doesnāt think heād be able to watch it alone and then bursts into tears seeing Ryland. He hasnāt aged much, if at all in these videos even though Tom knows it wouldāve been about 13ish years since he got sent to space before they reached him and Ry is crying and heās sorry he never got to remember the relationship they had and heās sorry his putting them ALL through grieving him when heās still alive. And. Heās just crying and wishing them the best in the worldās impending cold era and how he wishes he could be with them.
Anyway. Tom demands that Eva send some probes to Erid with stuff for Ry and just photos and stuff from his family and loved ones at least. And Ryland cries at seeing his cousins and niece grow into capable young women makes him so proud and so regretful that he didnāt have enough time with Holly or any time with Clair and he sees Tom with court and Colt and Ken and heās smiling and happy and looking like the world has finally stopped kicking him while heās down and uncle Holland looks so old now and heās glad that alcohol poisoning doesnāt seem to affect him and heās glad heās living to old age and he sees Lars and Casey as till living and they seem happy and he sees Jacob also not looking like the world wants him dead anymore and heās glad because Jacob wasnāt having a good time when he left and he sees Sebastian looking more at ease too and some Fritoās arenāt from Clairs Polaroid, some are from social media and heās glad that Seb finally got to open his beloved jazz club and. Heās crying again and Rocky is asking if theyāre happy tears and Ryland just nods and keeps crying.
Rocky secretly asking the aerospace team if they can send one back to Earth for Graces family and they ask Mary for any recordings that Grace didnāt send back and then it just becomes a fully fledged communication system between the 2 planets and Ryland eventually gets to teach Earth kids again even tho heās old and looks different and is covered in scars no one could guess the origins of and Rocky is also secretly finding a way to slow Graces aging down so he can do more of what he loves
okay i wasn't on board with Starstruck at first because I wanna hit Tom with a brick for what he did to Colt, HOWEVER, you made me cry about it so-
Ryland and Tom get the closure they both needed and they actually wind up becoming friends again thanks to the communication system, it's less awkward than either of them expected it to be and they're both happier for it. Ry feels...bittersweet about being able to keep in contact with all of them, his batshit crazy family included, because the Eridians are absolutely extending his lifespan through some kind of science magic human kibble (ha) and he's getting the pleasurepain of watching them all age;
Colt and Jody have a baby, and he gets to see his twin going grey while their kid grows up through photos and video calls (how advanced is this communication system? who knows, let's pretend it's near-instant back and forth) and Ryland breaks down because the kid wants to be an astronaut like 'uncle Ry' and he absolutely will not tell the kid how much he didn't wanna be an astronaut. what is he, a dream crusher? psh.
Tom and weird cousin Ken are actually surprisingly cute together and he's glad Tom has someone that makes him happy now that he's doing better! Ken gets so excited to talk about his "job" and tries really hard to compare it to Beach--Ryland quietly wonders if maybe Ken got hit on the head a few times but he's happy his cousin and his ex are happy, so he doesn't linger on it too much when they do get to talk.
aaand since i have permanent Bloodymary brain worms i have to include Simon in this-
All in all Ryland is happy about how things are going, but on a day where he's scheduled to call or email Earth he just...doesn't. It takes a few days for an update and Ryland is panicking when he does send out a message, but when he does get the video message sent the entire family is absolutely shocked to see what looks like fucking Markiplier with one arm lingering in the doorway behind him. covered in bandages from neck to waist pretty much, looking wary and suspicious, and the brothers back on Earth are immediately on Big Brother Mode because who is this big angry lump behind you??? where did he come from?? and Ryland has to explain that this dude popped up in a blood-filled submarine in his little chunk of Eridian-made ocean and wowee isn't it cool that he's alive? completely brushing over the teeth on his face and the fact that he's more scar tissue than person ofc.
i think Simon would get along with most of the family honestly, he'd be a little wary of a few of them (Ken in particular, Simon can tell that he's not quite human even through a video and it freaks him out on a primal level. Ken is blissfully unaware.) but over time they all just...become a big interstellar family.
(side note, everyone is surprised when the people Simon ends up getting along with the best are uncle Holland's husband Jackson and Lars's partner Casey. they're quiet and a little broody and they just Get Each Other.)
I fear this may be getting out of hand I feel the itching urge to turn it into an actual fanfic. But I already have like 5 wips and idk if I have the mental fortitude to turn it into a full story.
But
But
But. Imagine. Somehow. Grace manages to get to Earth before they all die if old age and Grace finally gets to meet all his nieces and nephews and the rest of his extended family. I hadnāt even considered pairing Tom with Ken (starbeach? Stardoll? Who knows. New crack ship unlocked and Iāll cry about it when Iām not on a fucking train) but it oddly works. Havenāt watched nice guys yet but I gather from things that, yeah, Jackson is rather similar to probably either court or Casey (driver)
And then the eridians discover new dimensions through Simon as the quiet rapture would be impossible in phm and then they somehow meet Officer K (Blade Runner 2049 (which I also agent watched yet)) and this poor man is just. So confused and like. Itās a cyberpunk future from what I can tell and that poor man is so sad and pathetic and has no idea who these people are and- I might have to stop with spreading the rgcu.
But also throw in the markiplier egos if you wish like. Simon being able to tell Ken isnāt completely human because he reminds him of the vague impression of a weird pink man with a moustache who definitely wasnāt real but might have been and one day Simon asks if Ken knows anyone like that? And Ken goes silent, which, weird, he never shuts up. And drops the bomb that discodoll was canon but somehow, after a massive fight, Wilford willed it out of existence. But. Ken remembers. Because it happened in Barbie land. And then he comes clean that itās pure coincidence that he looks like them because heās not a distant cousin. Heās a living doll. And he too will never age. And they never noticed that he doesnāt look as old as the rest of them. And. And they are so confused and the realisation that other worlds exist kind of breaks all of their brains (eridians and Grace included but not Simon. He already knew) and then Tom gets really upset because by that point theyād been together for probably a number of decades and. I just seem to really like making Tom cry apparently.
I need to stop I think. Making myself cry on public transport is not the way
omg including the Egos would be fun, if i didn't have 15 wips staring down the barrel at me i would jump on this so fast!
Ken does feel a little bad for not telling everybody the truth right away but once everybody's over the shock maybe he can take 'em all on a vacation to Barbieland, Tom gets jealous of Barbie at first 'cause poor Ken still gets puppy eyes around her sometimes but then realizes she wants nothing to do with Ken in that way and he's like "girl you FUMBLED him look at this perfect specimen, your loss" and he gets all huffy and a little of his old personality starts creeping out but it doesn't get too bad. Tom's just a jealous kinda guy and that is HIS living doll tyvm.
which kinda circles me around to Lars bc let's say he goes on the family trip and he sees a Barbie with dark hair like Bianca, he goes a little pink around the ears and maybe he accidentally calls her Bianca instead of Barbie and some small part of him is gets a little closure from that. Barbie-Bianca thinks Lars is very sweet but she doesn't understand why he gets all misty-eyed looking at her alskdfj Casey is utterly unbothered and is way more interested in how the barbie cars drive without engines in them, no jealousy here, as long as his teddy bear is happy he's happy.
the Goose fam that didn't go on the trip is back home and meeting some of the Egos, K is now living in the same universe as the rest of the Goslings and he and Googleplier get along like a house on fire (after GP gets over the worst of his 'destroy all humans' mentality ofc) to everyone's surprise. Yancy and Court were cellmates at one time so they're chill and maybe even...cuddly...do i wanna ship Court and Yancy? maybe.
the possibilities with this HUGE crossover AU are limitless and i am absolutely going to be coming back to this post for fic ideas
Part of my emotion about it is that itās a massive family. I have a massive family myself, excluding my half siblings families, I myself have 13 aunts and uncles and all of them have a t least 1 kid so I just have a massive family myself. But, unlike this one, mine is very splintered and split all over the country and some even live outside the uk.
But yeah. This is a massive au and 15 wips???? Are you ok?? I thought my 5ish was a lot lord help you
This is such a long thread and I will probably start something for it, whether my brain tells me itās a good idea or not. Help us all wips are a special kind of hell
Iām also not all that familiar with marks egos, I was a jack kid personally but Iāve been slowly been working through marks work.
But also that thing with Barbie is hilarious. Tom somewhat reverting back to his old personality because heās a jealous ass is funny as fuck. Colt definitely wouldāve had to go to Barbieland to make sure he didnāt do anything stupid. But also itād be really funny to have the gosfam learn about the attempted patriarchy that Ken himself led and be mortified, Tom more at the outfit than the takeover specifically, and court fighting the urge to just deck him because that was a stupid move. Lars getting emotional about one of the Barbieās looking like Bianca is just. So sad. And Casey just wanting him to be happy, that man doesnāt have a jealous bone in his body. Like at all. And thatās canon. He just wants his loved ones to be happy.
But Iāve also seen the idea that Ryan Gosling still exists. And have a personal headcanon for any media that takes place in any version of our realisty that the actors themselves still exist, because thereās so many unconscious references to media that itād be impossible to tell what life would be like if certain actors never existed. Like yeah RyGos still exists and is a little perturbed by how many look alikes he has. Like. Help that poor man heās going through a weird ass existential crisis several times over. So that bit about the gosfam seeing markiplier behind Ryland the first time is hilarious because mark fishbach (idk how to spell his last name) is definitely still a person and a very influential personality and itās just really funny. Anyway
Help Iāve become attached and need to do something about it soon or Iāll combust. Help
to answer your question, no, i'm not alright, the brain worms are chewing on my frontal lobe like a gummy bear. i need to pare down the wips or i'm gonna go insane, i need to FINISH SOMETHING- but this thread is giving me so many ideas that the wip pile may yet grow larger. i'm in the trenches, send help
though the memes of Markiplier and the literal savior of earth being shipped would be so funny in-universe, i'm scared if i say his name too many times he's gonna appear but god can you imagine. it'd be like a super weird variant of bloodymary and it would be amazing
Coltland Gentry universe, Stratt's sent Ryland off to space (she did NOT know he had a twin and an older brother) and she randomly catches some interview with Colt on tv while she's in prison and her heart just fucking SINKS when he mentions his twin brother being involved with 'cool space science stuff' because the likelihood of a man that looked EXACTLY like the world's sacrificial lamb having a scientist twin was...slim to none. and she's not stupid, she can see the expressions he makes and there's no way it could be anyone else. right down to the nose scrunch when he laughs.
she makes a few calls, Colt finds out what happened to Ryland (in a 'sanitized for the public' way), and then *whoops* Sierra fucking Six is kidnapping her from prison and demanding real answers about his baby brother. Eva Stratt, for the first time, has Regrets.
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