gil's route permanently altered my brain chemistry

At first I was like "I know Euren likes being verbally abused but is he even really masochistic if Zane punches him over the head and he didn't moan about it" and that was SIGNIFICANT. Zane came at him from behind and the mask slipped.

So then we get the twitter info of "senpai hasn't verbally abused me in a while. What should I do to get their attention?"

And the answer is that he barges on Jude and he ties him up and dumps him in front of the castle for Lucien to pick up. And Lucien says he'll also give him a good squeeze. And Liam, of all people funny enough, says "but he'll just like it."

William of all people remarking that if Jude was even just a little nicer to him Euren wouldn't bother him so much basically tells me that. William doesn't really have Euren problems and it's obvious why if you know William. There was a whole big bonus story with all of crown going "we've never seen William get angry. Let's try to make him mad." And Jude's like "I ate your fecking strawberries" and nothing phases William.

William's whole thing is that he's literally an evil therapist. he guides people to become truly free. Be their own master. Pursue their desires and dreams. Reach for things you've denied yourself.

Imagine this. Euren hears that William condems criminals, with his self righteusness, so he goes OMG another guy who'll punish me?? And then William is just nice to him. Euren: "I don't like hanging out with this guy."

Do you know how telling that is?? Not just funny. TELLING. TRAGIC EVEN

Telling me that Euren hangs out with Liam, Alfons and Elbert is just telling me that he hates himself. those are the guys who hate themselves to suicidal and self harm degrees. And Alfons who looks after them.

Liam literally says in his sequel trailer that he used to hate the very sound of his heart beating. He hated himself and seeks to erase himself. His ability to turn invisible is a metaphor for that. And it's why he's such a good actor. He is an ACTIVE SUICIDE RISK. His body seeks adrenaline of near death experiences just to keep him going. Alfons helps him keep it in check with both Al's ability and then their dangerous nightime games. It's all to minimize risk actually. He's much safes if he's at least with Alfons and they do somewhat minimal dangerous things regularly rather than try to act normal for a long time and then he has a fit at the worst time. And yeah he did literally almost kill himself in the route didn't he?

Elbert's greed is just a way seeking atonement and forgiveness. I don't remember his route as well but MC i s the one who helps him realise that he'd want to give beautiful things to his parents if he could. He can't cuz they are dead but that greed kept him alive so long. As well as,the self harm…that is the season why his route has a SA warning. Many people don't understand this even players. Tha he was seeking punishment cuz he gates himself.

Alfons looks out for these guys. He just has a soft spot for such people. Alfons himself is described as hedonistic and seeking only his personal amusement but the more you learn about him it's clearer he is not even having a good time or doing a single damn thing for himself. He actually DENIES himself pleasure if anything.."Al would never chose to be someone's one and only" He denies himself deep connections with others because he is aware of the fate of his course's to be completely forgotten. We see exactly how that affected the family of the previous curse bearer after he died. So Alfons goes out of his way to preemptively erase himself. To cause as little damage as possible. To not leave anyone in pain. He can't help being kind like that. At some point Kate starts to see and it's HIM who denies it. He CLAIMS everything he does is for his own amusement but that's a LIE. Like everyone else in Crown, he just wants Kate to get home the least traumatized possible and tries to help her in his own way. And tries to help people with his ability but cannot bring himself to think it's really kind or helpful cuz he isn't actually changing their situation at all. "If reality is too cruel it's better to go mad." This is why the most beautiful thing about his long term relationship with Kate since the route release is that she gives him a reality more blissful than any fantasy could be. And that letting her suck his dick is literally such important character development it had to be in the normal story.

Bruh how am I supposed to transition back to something serious

Euren is a fucked up mix of ALL OF THOSE AND THEN SOME. YOU ADD UP THAT,HE SEEKS PUNISHMENT FROM GUYS LIKE JUDE. Euren is the gift that keeps on giving

He might have an inclination for beautiful things cuz of his curse or he might feel occasionally guilty about how much money he makes so he spends it. Or maybe it also has something to do with work for Libra.

Seeking punishment and rage baiting people

Flirting with you in that same sort of way Alfons makes himself unlikeable and punchable to keep people at arm's length.

I worry about those dangerous night escapades…. but actually yknow what. it's possible it's actually Euren who gave them info on how to manage their "symptoms" like this. After having it from Libra sources. Would explain why Alfons is so "you would do no such thing"

Okay so clearly he does a bunch of shit to get himself degraded and punished cuz he's feeling guilty about something else entirely. Of which he was denied direct punishment.

DENIAL

OF

CATHARSIS OF

PUNISHMENT

THAT'S THE SEA WITCH'S CURSED FATE

The sea witch never gets punished for what you could consider to be evil: leading the little mermaid to pain and tragedy.

But yknow I have gone at length how fact that the prince was kinda an asshat was literally out of her control.

But she does not get punished the way other traditional fairytale villains do. The way a lot of crown members are destined for a cruel or tragic end. William, for example, seeks his tragic end as punishment for the sins he committed. This must look like fucking luxury to Euren.

A witch can only lead you to a tragic end. because she is a witch. not a godmother or fairy.

But then this witch got denied the catharsis of punishment. That in itself, a tragic fate.

It is not improbable that Euren tried to help someone at some point in the past, and it went BAD. It lead them to doom. because that is part of his curse. And he blames himself but then he is also denied the catharsis of direct punishment over that supposed evil.

"It is stupid to get your heart stolen"

Oh Euren….

Ironically??? In other stories evil witches die and get punished because they had evil schemes they wanted to get away with.

HIS JOB DDUDE. He's so good at it by nature… Good at knowing things he avoids the kind of grudges Jude would gather cuz his very cursed karma makes him "get,away with it" AND THEN HE'S NOT ACTUALLY EVRN ENOUGH OF AN,ASSHOLE TO NOT FEEL BAD IF SOMEONE DIES ORVSOMETHING CUZ OFTHE INFO HE GAVE THEM. OH MY GOD SUCH A BABY

This recontextualises both Lucian and Jude's behavior into something…weirdly…caring.

OMG Jude is a DOTING SENPAI!!?? ?? The fact that Alfons feels the need to add "you will do no such thing" when Jude threatens him tell me that either Alfons and the others don't know Euren's real cursed fate or he's surface level assuming that Jude is the one who doesn't know and Jude just hates Euren. But but!! Jude is Observant and he's know him longer. It would be very like Jude to have figured it out but keeps quiet and Jude gives the guy what he needs to scratch that itch. Cuz bruh what's the alternative? let him get so guilty he kills himself?? JUDE ISNT STUPID. He COULD tone it down and not give Euren the degradation he wants but he doesn't.

And it's interesting that Jude has a curse of a character who deals an UNFAIR punishment. Unfairly punishing a child for actions of her parents.

So it's like the curses are by passing each other. Euren cannot be punished for the thing he actually did and feels guilty over but he can,be dealt an "unfair" punishment by someone like Jude.

And that leads me into how I think Libra works. They keep each other in check. Balance.

I don't know SHIT about Lucien's curse fairytale which is all the funnier when you put him next to Euren, of whom I know too much. But he,seemsto be on the same page where he'll deal Euren the punishment he seeks. Perhaps hi,curse makes it his,nature to punish and discipline people. So they cancel each other out.

For Zane's case, I recently read a tumblr post pointing out how Gaston was a bad guy cuz he was surrounded by yes men while the beast had servants who try to correct his behavior and that is,why he eventually changed as a person. I love our Crown family but they are, at their heart, enablers.

And in the wider context of Libra's mission, it seems like they might…use the knowledge of curses to keep each other in check? "For the sake of the many" for the sake of not involving normal people with "free will" no pre determined tragic fate. People like MC. Yeah they MIGHT think the cursed shouldn't get too involved with normal people. Or they might suspect she has a curse but I hope NOT really cuz it was always the point that Kate has free will and she uses it to willingly chose the path of darkness and to chase her suitor. To love him despite any pain or tragic fate it might drag her into.

So they might have a policy of not involving normal people with cursed people. And we have a guy like Roger who wants to find a way to break curses. And then these guys seems to potentially just accept them and use whatever information they can, whatever has been gathered through the years, to minimize cursed damage by making them cancel each other out.

We saw Lucian with two people who killed each other.

If they were two cursed people with some sort of fitting tragic fate, killing each other instead of a normal "innocent" can count as damage control if you fucked on the head in a,certain way.

Because the cursed fates are supposed to be innevitable no matter what you try to do.

Some people seek punishment. Some seek death. Many people live and die their cursed fates without ever knowing they were cursed and BECAUSE they didn't know their tragic fates. Not to mention dragging someone else into it.

And then there's also things like using cursed abilities to get ahead, amass,power, start a war, whatever.