About Vincentās attitude in the flashbacks (ch131/132)
I want to address two different things, the first point because it is strange, the second point because I saw a lot of possible misunderstanding. Ā
1) Vincent and foreshadowing
I want to talk about this scene that left me a bit ???ā¦
because nothing particularly important is being said and yet Vincent says something that sounds like a premonition with a rather ominous face and what made me address this is thatĀ itās not the first time.Ā
So, here I am, wondering if the possible regular pattern doesnāt mean something in particular, because we also had a possible foreshadowing moment about the current arc (probably referring to the twinsā conflict itself) from his own mouth in ch107.5ā¦
AndĀ I already made a post on the subject, but in ch131 we had several Evil Nobles showing up on the same day as Vincent asking Diedrich for a favor, namely, to look after his sons should anything happen to him, 3 years before anything actually happened to him, as if he was expecting something to happen to him soon.
ā¦going as far as to add after āYou never knowā:
In case you were wondering, yes I know this sounds crazy and I had never considered something as random as āVincent had small precognitive powersā before this chapter, but I find that this makes for a strange and regular pattern.Ā
And yes, for all we know, itās just Vincent breaking the 4th wall because Yana enjoys writing him like that, but stillā¦
We also know, thanks to ch103, that the Phantomhive family share a special lineage, even if the details are still unknown to this day, aside from the fact that it allows our!Ciel to see Shinigamis when he shouldnāt be able to.Ā
Obviously itās hard to reach any conclusion until we see more flashbacks of Vincent, but itās something to keep in mind in my opinion, just in case itās useful later. x) Ā Ā Ā
This other point focuses solely on ch132 and starts with this scene:
Judging by Vincentās silent glance, I agree with @akumadeenglishās interpretation that he was carefully observing his sonsā reaction and ideas at the time. The big question is, whose words did he appreciate the most?
I know many might think that itās real!Cielās, since he seemed like the perfect heir when our!Ciel was weaker and not supposed to inherit anything, howeverĀ I think ch132 is actually full of hints that Vincent took a real interest in how our!Ciel was thinking.
If you donāt believe me, take a look at the discussion with Frances:
ā¦becauseĀ Vincent initially seemed to be quite out of it as she made her point that the Watchdog duty would be too dangerous for our!Ciel, going as far asĀ to answer pretty dismissively to his sisterā¦
But I personally didnāt read this scene as Vincent just shrugging it off because he didnāt care about his second son dying, or what should happen to the family if his heir died, but rather becauseĀ he simply didnāt agree with Frances on the matter of our!Ciel not being strong enough to take on the Watchdog duty.Ā
The second hint is that he took both his sons with him when he went to inspect the domainā¦
ā¦even though many readers interpreted his words from before as not being very trusting of our!Cielās abilities.
However, if he really didnāt think that our!Ciel could be a good and strong heir, then why did he even take him with him and real!Ciel in the first place? Why didnāt he appear to educate them differently, except maybe when it comes to fighting?
Finally, not everyone might want to call these hints, but this is Vincent in the side story With Father!Ā and ch107.5:
And he doesnāt seem to particularly dislike the fact that our!Ciel is the current Watchdog (in case you were wondering, he never calls himĀ āCielā so we can safely assume he knows which sonās adventures heās reading x)).Ā
I think he actually found our!Cielās words interesting because, compared to the twin, our!Cielās proposition seemed more genuinely good-hearted and thus different from what he might have been expecting from a potential future Watchdog. However, this isnāt really surprising when we know what our!Ciel wanted to do as an adult and why.
Our!Ciel is kinder at heart and appears to be more selfless than his twin brother and I believe Vincent caught on that through our!Cielās answer (āgranting everyoneās wishes sounds difficultā) &Ā that itās what possiblyĀ interestedĀ him.
Because friendly reminder again that Vincent said that Kuroshitsuji (so literally our!Ciel acting as the Watchdog) was āinterestingā and that it was something āthe Undertaker recommendedā, which means that Vincent seems to agree with UT when it comes to our!Ciel:
1 => I donāt know how seriously weāre supposed to take Vincentās words when he speaks about the future (see the examples above), because there is still a possibility that Yana enjoys breaking the 4th wall with using his character.
However, considering we still know nothing about how supernatural the Phantomhive lineage might be, Iām going to keep these examples in mind just in case there is a reason Vincent can foreshadow things.
2 => I donāt think Vincent ever casted off his second child (our!Ciel) as being weak, useless and not making for a good heir because:
he didnāt want to address the subject with Frances
he took our!Ciel along with real!Ciel when he explained what the duties of a lord were
there are hints that he shared UTās opinion on how interesting it is that our!Ciel appears to act and think differently from the rest of his ancestors.
I hope it was understandable, thanks for reading!
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