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Their pit stop strategising was excellent this race and Lewis was still ahead in the last lap because he is an excellent driver. Max had fresher tyres and maybe that’s why he managed to get ahead of Lewis.

They definitely wanted to ended that championship with a dramatic finish for sure.

From Lewis cutting the corner to the safety car shenanigans it was always going to be controversial. Controversial enough that even Toto complained about a safety car deployment when they needed to bring a tow truck to hoist Latifi’s car away and manually sweep the track.

The fia definitely bent the rules. They wanted some action in the last lap.

In one situation it was a minor call that still left the other car with 58 laps to race with and in the other is was almost blatantly obvious they wanted one car to pass the other who no time for tyre changes, undercuts, strategy changes.

Yes they constantly blue flag cars, and yes sometimes it is difficult but what’s the phrase “that’s motor sport” if it was easy no one would be invested in it.

And they did blue flag other lapped cars. Why not those 5?

Saying that the fia gave max a win when Lewis was still ahead in the last lap is a bit silly and takes away from how incredible Lewis is as a driver because it’s implied that Lewis was completely helpless against verstappen and was being protected by the lapped cars between himself and verstappen?

2) the safety must come in a lap after all the lapped cars past the first place car, mean they 100% would have ended on a safety car and Lewis would’ve won.

3) Lewis’s tyres were cold (which affects hard tyres more) and hard (objectively slower than Max’s) and 40 laps old (so less grip) compared to Max’s brand new soft tyres. I don’t care how good you are, you can’t brake as well when you’re tyres are that old. That’s just a fact, your back end would slide out and do a Latifi. So there was no way Lewis would’ve won in the scenario that occurred

4) under blue flag, Max would have slowed down to pass the 5 cars in front of him, allowing Lewis to win.

The 2 legal ways to finish the race, would’ve resulted in a Lewis win and winning the championship. The 1 illegal, unsportsmanlike and more importantly UNSAFE way of finishing the race would (and did) result in a Max win.

Saying that the way it ended was correct when multiple people/ drivers/ commentators have called it unsafe is in fact ridiculous.

This isn’t about next years race, this is about this race and how they did everything in the last 5 laps to help Max to victory.

And ending the race on a safety car would have been boring as fuck surely you can agree with that. Redbull (and their fans) would have been just as furious if it had ended in a safety car, saying that it wasn’t needed or that the car could have pitted a lap or two before hand.

I don’t believe they did this to make max win, they just wanted a dramatic finish rather than a safety car one. Unfortunately for Mercedes, Max had the fresh tyres.

The whole season I’ve seen posts saying that the fia favours Lewis and the opposite too. It’s hard to figure out intentions and I believe it wastes time to try. If you surely believe Max was given the race win by the fia so be it. He doesn’t deserve the win.

Does someone who could have prevented this by backing out of a corner but chose to (unwittingly) almost land his car on top another guys head seem like the kind of guy worthy of a title?

I mean, in that situation almost all the other drivers would’ve backed out, but instead he tried to push Lewis wide (because that’s what we’ve come to expect from him- hell the FIA has said you would get points docked if you ended another driver’s race because of what we’ve seen Max do), and resulting in landed on top his halo (god forbid what would’ve happened if the halo wasn’t there)

But nether the less, that’s not what we’re discussing, we’re discussing about the race all I’m saying is that following the FIA rules, it would’ve been a Lewis win. This is a sport, not a drama. We don’t watch it for the manufactured drama by the FIA overlords, we watch it for the drama created by the drivers. We watch it to see who will win. Because it’s a nonfiction sport. Not a fictionally drama. They tried to make it a drama. Don’t you agree? Don’t you agree they meddled with the race and blatantly ignored rules to allow the race to finish how they wanted it to?

That Monza crash was a nasty one, just like the one in Silverstone.

Listen I don’t really want to argue, because I see no point in arguing fan to fan. I just believe Max deserved the title (just as Lewis did) despite what happened in the race. It makes more sense to direct that energy at the fia themselves rather than the drivers themselves or other F1 fans (even tho some of them are nasty as)

And all I’m saying is that the FIA was wrong with that they did and helped Max an incredible amount to actually win the race.

Their pit stop strategising was excellent this race and Lewis was still ahead in the last lap because he is an excellent driver. Max had fresher tyres and maybe that’s why he managed to get ahead of Lewis.

They definitely wanted to ended that championship with a dramatic finish for sure.

From Lewis cutting the corner to the safety car shenanigans it was always going to be controversial. Controversial enough that even Toto complained about a safety car deployment when they needed to bring a tow truck to hoist Latifi’s car away and manually sweep the track.

The fia definitely bent the rules. They wanted some action in the last lap.

In one situation it was a minor call that still left the other car with 58 laps to race with and in the other is was almost blatantly obvious they wanted one car to pass the other who no time for tyre changes, undercuts, strategy changes.

Yes they constantly blue flag cars, and yes sometimes it is difficult but what’s the phrase “that’s motor sport” if it was easy no one would be invested in it.

And they did blue flag other lapped cars. Why not those 5?

Saying that the fia gave max a win when Lewis was still ahead in the last lap is a bit silly and takes away from how incredible Lewis is as a driver because it’s implied that Lewis was completely helpless against verstappen and was being protected by the lapped cars between himself and verstappen?

2) the safety must come in a lap after all the lapped cars past the first place car, mean they 100% would have ended on a safety car and Lewis would’ve won.

3) Lewis’s tyres were cold (which affects hard tyres more) and hard (objectively slower than Max’s) and 40 laps old (so less grip) compared to Max’s brand new soft tyres. I don’t care how good you are, you can’t brake as well when you’re tyres are that old. That’s just a fact, your back end would slide out and do a Latifi. So there was no way Lewis would’ve won in the scenario that occurred

4) under blue flag, Max would have slowed down to pass the 5 cars in front of him, allowing Lewis to win.

The 2 legal ways to finish the race, would’ve resulted in a Lewis win and winning the championship. The 1 illegal, unsportsmanlike and more importantly UNSAFE way of finishing the race would (and did) result in a Max win.

Saying that the way it ended was correct when multiple people/ drivers/ commentators have called it unsafe is in fact ridiculous.

This isn’t about next years race, this is about this race and how they did everything in the last 5 laps to help Max to victory.

And ending the race on a safety car would have been boring as fuck surely you can agree with that. Redbull (and their fans) would have been just as furious if it had ended in a safety car, saying that it wasn’t needed or that the car could have pitted a lap or two before hand.

I don’t believe they did this to make max win, they just wanted a dramatic finish rather than a safety car one. Unfortunately for Mercedes, Max had the fresh tyres.

The whole season I’ve seen posts saying that the fia favours Lewis and the opposite too. It’s hard to figure out intentions and I believe it wastes time to try. If you surely believe Max was given the race win by the fia so be it. He doesn’t deserve the win.

Does someone who could have prevented this by backing out of a corner but chose to (unwittingly) almost land his car on top another guys head seem like the kind of guy worthy of a title?

I mean, in that situation almost all the other drivers would’ve backed out, but instead he tried to push Lewis wide (because that’s what we’ve come to expect from him- hell the FIA has said you would get points docked if you ended another driver’s race because of what we’ve seen Max do), and resulting in landed on top his halo (god forbid what would’ve happened if the halo wasn’t there)

But nether the less, that’s not what we’re discussing, we’re discussing about the race all I’m saying is that following the FIA rules, it would’ve been a Lewis win. This is a sport, not a drama. We don’t watch it for the manufactured drama by the FIA overlords, we watch it for the drama created by the drivers. We watch it to see who will win. Because it’s a nonfiction sport. Not a fictionally drama. They tried to make it a drama. Don’t you agree? Don’t you agree they meddled with the race and blatantly ignored rules to allow the race to finish how they wanted it to?

That Monza crash was a nasty one, just like the one in Silverstone.

Listen I don’t really want to argue, because I see no point in arguing fan to fan. I just believe Max deserved the title (just as Lewis did) despite what happened in the race. It makes more sense to direct that energy at the fia themselves rather than the drivers themselves or other F1 fans (even tho some of them are nasty as)

Their pit stop strategising was excellent this race and Lewis was still ahead in the last lap because he is an excellent driver. Max had fresher tyres and maybe that’s why he managed to get ahead of Lewis.

They definitely wanted to ended that championship with a dramatic finish for sure.

From Lewis cutting the corner to the safety car shenanigans it was always going to be controversial. Controversial enough that even Toto complained about a safety car deployment when they needed to bring a tow truck to hoist Latifi’s car away and manually sweep the track.

The fia definitely bent the rules. They wanted some action in the last lap.

In one situation it was a minor call that still left the other car with 58 laps to race with and in the other is was almost blatantly obvious they wanted one car to pass the other who no time for tyre changes, undercuts, strategy changes.

Yes they constantly blue flag cars, and yes sometimes it is difficult but what’s the phrase “that’s motor sport” if it was easy no one would be invested in it.

And they did blue flag other lapped cars. Why not those 5?

Saying that the fia gave max a win when Lewis was still ahead in the last lap is a bit silly and takes away from how incredible Lewis is as a driver because it’s implied that Lewis was completely helpless against verstappen and was being protected by the lapped cars between himself and verstappen?

2) the safety must come in a lap after all the lapped cars past the first place car, mean they 100% would have ended on a safety car and Lewis would’ve won.

3) Lewis’s tyres were cold (which affects hard tyres more) and hard (objectively slower than Max’s) and 40 laps old (so less grip) compared to Max’s brand new soft tyres. I don’t care how good you are, you can’t brake as well when you’re tyres are that old. That’s just a fact, your back end would slide out and do a Latifi. So there was no way Lewis would’ve won in the scenario that occurred

4) under blue flag, Max would have slowed down to pass the 5 cars in front of him, allowing Lewis to win.

The 2 legal ways to finish the race, would’ve resulted in a Lewis win and winning the championship. The 1 illegal, unsportsmanlike and more importantly UNSAFE way of finishing the race would (and did) result in a Max win.

Saying that the way it ended was correct when multiple people/ drivers/ commentators have called it unsafe is in fact ridiculous.

This isn’t about next years race, this is about this race and how they did everything in the last 5 laps to help Max to victory.

And ending the race on a safety car would have been boring as fuck surely you can agree with that. Redbull (and their fans) would have been just as furious if it had ended in a safety car, saying that it wasn’t needed or that the car could have pitted a lap or two before hand.

I don’t believe they did this to make max win, they just wanted a dramatic finish rather than a safety car one. Unfortunately for Mercedes, Max had the fresh tyres.

The whole season I’ve seen posts saying that the fia favours Lewis and the opposite too. It’s hard to figure out intentions and I believe it wastes time to try. If you surely believe Max was given the race win by the fia so be it. He doesn’t deserve the win.

Their pit stop strategising was excellent this race and Lewis was still ahead in the last lap because he is an excellent driver. Max had fresher tyres and maybe that’s why he managed to get ahead of Lewis.

They definitely wanted to ended that championship with a dramatic finish for sure.

From Lewis cutting the corner to the safety car shenanigans it was always going to be controversial. Controversial enough that even Toto complained about a safety car deployment when they needed to bring a tow truck to hoist Latifi’s car away and manually sweep the track.

The fia definitely bent the rules. They wanted some action in the last lap.

In one situation it was a minor call that still left the other car with 58 laps to race with and in the other is was almost blatantly obvious they wanted one car to pass the other who no time for tyre changes, undercuts, strategy changes.

Yes they constantly blue flag cars, and yes sometimes it is difficult but what’s the phrase “that’s motor sport” if it was easy no one would be invested in it.

And they did blue flag other lapped cars. Why not those 5?

Saying that the fia gave max a win when Lewis was still ahead in the last lap is a bit silly and takes away from how incredible Lewis is as a driver because it’s implied that Lewis was completely helpless against verstappen and was being protected by the lapped cars between himself and verstappen?

Their pit stop strategising was excellent this race and Lewis was still ahead in the last lap because he is an excellent driver. Max had fresher tyres and maybe that’s why he managed to get ahead of Lewis.

They definitely wanted to ended that championship with a dramatic finish for sure.

From Lewis cutting the corner to the safety car shenanigans it was always going to be controversial. Controversial enough that even Toto complained about a safety car deployment when they needed to bring a tow truck to hoist Latifi’s car away and manually sweep the track.

The fia definitely bent the rules. They wanted some action in the last lap.

Their pit stop strategising was excellent this race and Lewis was still ahead in the last lap because he is an excellent driver. Max had fresher tyres and maybe that’s why he managed to get ahead of Lewis.

They definitely wanted to ended that championship with a dramatic finish for sure.