You will never convince me mr its easier to be straight isnt gay. Thats like such an early 2000s closeted/repressed mindset

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You will never convince me mr its easier to be straight isnt gay. Thats like such an early 2000s closeted/repressed mindset

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AFTG fandom is so Kevinphobic
Take a shot everytime u see a kevin day posts full of victim blaming him in the tag. U will die trust me
I find It kind of wild that people somehow think Kevin handled the whole 'Neil is actually Nathaniel' thing badly or in a wrong way, because I honestly cannot see It.
When he finds out, the first thing he does, as soon as he is able to talk to Neil in private, is tell him to RUN, bolt, save his life. They are going to lose the season, yes, It is going to suck, but Neil needs to run before It is too late.
Neil tells him he doesnt want to. Explains his decision to him. And Kevin....respects it. Because there is no good choice for Neil in the moment. He can stay and die or he can run and maybe delay his death in a few years. This is not a easy choice to make and Kevin respects and accepts whatever Neil has decided.
This doesn't mean he likes It or that he is fine with losing Neil. Just means that there is nothing either of them can do about the fact there are way too powerful people who want Neil's head on a silver platter.
Then Neil asks Kevin to not tell Andrew, and Kevin immediately understands why. He says with all the words: "Andrew wouldnt respect your choice"
Because Kevin understands there is no good or safe choice for Neil and he understands the least he can do is allow Neil to autonomy to decide.
Most of all, Kevin keeps Neil's secret. Not because he wants to keep It, but because Neil asked him to. Kevin understands this is the most he can do for Neil in that situation.
He cannot fight the Butcher, much less the Moriyamas (neither can Andrew). He cannot make Neil stop being Nathaniel. He cannot stop the people that are after him
But he can respect Neil's choice and keep his secret. So he does. Even If he knows this will make Andrew mas at him. Because for most of Kevin's life, he had all his choices made for him, because where Kevin comes from, keeping secrets was the most power he could ever have.
It baffles me that there are people who think he has somehow been selfish of done something absurd here.
Kevin Day, emotions, and being a bitch a meta:
We know from Jean's narration* that when it came to Kevin's abuse in the Nest it was often more psychological than physical. He was made to watch Jean's torture at Riko's hand, tend to his wounds, and keep it a secret from the other Ravens. Living his life like this while in constant space / presence of his abuser meant Kevin's ability to shut off his own emotions was one of the few ways he could protect himself.
This also let Kevin in some small way protect Jean as any closeness between them would be seen as a slight against Riko. Why I think Riko breaking Kevin's hand had less to do with Kevin outplaying him but about the two of them learning French behind his back.
Even the "bitchy" side of Kevin is part performance as Jean explains he used it to distract the other Ravens from Jean's trauma & Riko's abuse. It also allowed him to have distance from the other Ravens and their own ways to taunt / tease / harm each other. Their words cannot hurt him because they are so far beneath him they're not worth listening to.

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if we really think about it, the chances that kevin is not a sexual assault survivor seem incredibly small.
even if we only look at kevin's life pre-canon, we know that he grew up in a murder sports cult with extremely toxic views around sex and sexuality.
he was expected to always be in the same room as his obsessive, possessive, abusive adopted brother, riko. riko is shown to take great enjoyment from inflicting sexual violence upon others. kevin was considered riko's possession, his pet, and riko was allowed to inflict whatever violence he saw fit, as long as it didn't hinder kevin's ability to play. kevin also cannot refuse riko.
the coaches, nurses, and other adults in evermore had similar access to the players, and they, too, were allowed to do whatever they wanted as long as it could be explained. jean outright tells us that he witnessed a freshman being killed due to not performing to expectations.
kevin was also raised as a child celebrity and child athlete, both of which are very sexualized, especially in the early 2000s, which is when kevin would have been a teenager. he was expected to perform perfectly in front of the cameras no matter what was done to him behind the scenes.
and then we have what the books and kevin himself tell us. kevin distrusts betsy because 'she's andrew's', kevin says coaches specifically have no honour, kevin is very aware of the prejudices around queer athletes, kevin has a visceral reaction to luther telling andrew he didn't understand normal brotherly love. his conversation with jeremy regarding jean's assault also has hints of this.
so yeah i think it's unrealistic to assume that he was somehow exempt.
Imagine that, instead of secretly dating Thea, Kevin had been dating Jeremy all this time. A long-distance relationship, kept alive through late night phone calls whenever none of the Ravens were around to listen.
Jean discovers the truth when he's sent to California. Kevin trusts no one but his boyfriend to look after him, and Jean is completely thrown off by the revelation. Of course, he knows why he's jealous of Jeremy, he's dating the boy Jean has been pining after for years. However, with every day that passes, that jealousy becomes harder to understand as Jean starts to fall unintentionally for Jeremy too.
Having a crush on a boy who's already taken is difficult enough. Imagine having a crush on two boys who are dating each other.
In the end, it doesn't matter who he likes. There is no place for him between them. Or at least, that's what Jean thinks. What Jean doesn't know is that Kevin and Jeremy have been waiting for the right moment to make a move on him.
Saving this to write a fic later
this feels like a lukewarm take but i really love how it’s implied (if not outright stated, i can’t remember) that kevin was made to be so unlikeable in the eyes of the other ravens because if kevin is the bitchy diva then riko is the likable one. riko can be the reasonable one, can act just as annoyed as the rest of them, roll his eyes and act the victim. and having kevin be the “common enemy” gives them all someone to bond over hating yknow
Literally no bigger AFTG ick than when Kevin is belittled and punished for not being a perfectly agreeable abuse victim after living in hell on earth for 10+ years
Sometimes I remember that at some point during Kevin's last book theres gonna be a point that definitively kills my dream of a kerejean endgame and I feel genuine anguish

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“Oh my god, I can't believe Kevin day fumbled two different situation ships” Kevin Day who surgically removed himself from the people he loved when he realized he was not the better option. Kevin day who even when he's the first option knows he's never the best option. Kevin Day who lets people use him as they learn to love each other and themselves until he has no use anymore and lets them go even as they rip parts of himself away when they leave. Kevin day who is always the first choice and never the last.
I pose to you a deliberately ignorant Kevin instead of oblivious Kevin. A Kevin who learned to ignore others interests in him because acknowledging the attention meant putting them direct danger of Riko’s wrath . A deliberately oblivious Kevin as a coping/protective mechanism. One that takes a while to unlearn.
there were handcuffs attached to Kevin’s bed???? Why aftg citizens sleeping on this wake tf up😭
Kevin having the strength to leave the nest ended up saving everyone’s lives.
People always talk about how Kevin fumbled Jean and Jeremy, but what they dont realize is that Kevin gave Jean up, not because he didnt care, but precisely the opposite
Kevin has never been in a position where he could do anything for Jean beyond patching him up. Then Renée saves Jean, Neil strikes the deal with Ichirou and, for the first time in his life, Kevin has the chance to actually do something good for the one person he cares the most.
And Kevin doesnt believe he can be the best for the Jean. Honestly, I dont really think he believes he can be the best for anyone. I dont think he believes he deserves It either, but that's another conversation entirely.
So he does what he thinks It is best for Jean and sends him away. And Kevin isnt stupid. He knows Jean has a crush on Jeremy and he knows very well there is a high chance something more might come out of both of them being 'partners'.
Still, he sends Jean away. And he does so because he wants Jean to be happy. He hopes this happiness might include him in whatever way Jean would allow It, but if it doesn't, to Kevin It doesn't matter. What matters is that he finally has one chance do It right by Jean and he doesn't want to let the other down again.
Kevin doesn't fumble Jean, he lets Jean go knowing exactly what he is loosing but also knowing he would never be able to live with himself If he passed up on the chance to give Jean the best he could give.
If this meant never having him, If this meant never even trying, then so be it, that was a price Kevin was willing to pay.
You cannot fumble something If you do not believe yourself worthy of even trying to persuit It, If you let It Go

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I don't think we reflect enough on how hard it is to watch someone you care about be brutalised, just stand there and watch, and then pull their pieces back together.
Jean was traumatised doing it for Neil and he barely knew him.
Kevin had do that all the time for Jean. All the time. And we can see in TSC that they have almost a second language when it comes to touch, or checking him over, and how unflinchingly Kevin doesn't even act to Jean puking, or how much of a caretaker he is when it comes to Jean.
But what gets me is that I don't think Jean was allowed to do much of the same in return for Kevin. There is only one mention of Jean being allowed to piece Kevin back together and it is when Riko does his hand, and Kevin uses that to send Jean to get Riko out of the room and then escapes.
Jean never mentions another time he was allowed to take care of Kevin. And we know that even if we believe Riko didn't brutalise Kevin (doubtful) or didn't brutalise Kevin to the same extent (I won't burn you Kevin bc we can't explain that but there's other things to do to you) we do know that Tetsuji did. And has done since Kevin was nine, or even under.
And sure before Jean got there Riko had to be the one right? Or Riko and maybe Josiah Smalls?? (Which is horrifying given Kevin and Jeans reactions to him). But after that, when Jean is there, does Riko just never let him take care of Kevin? Does Riko keep Kevin to himself in those moments? I can't see Riko being a caretaker. I bet he's rough and nasty with it. But he's also possessive. Does Kevin never get any proper care and affection when he is recovering?
Is that one of the reasons he is so, so delicate with Jean?
Does Jean ever hate it? Seeing Kevin be pulled away from him and then not even taken care of? Does he try to make it better later? Or does he chalk it up to they're partners and I'm not?? Jean later reflects that Kevin was always the strong one. He never thought about Kevin not being that. So maybe he didn't think about what Kevin needed after it all, because Kevin was so good at hiding after so many years. Kevin was conditioned with the words "can you play? Yes or no?" And that's all that matters.
Does seeing Kevin broken and drinking himself to death make Jean turn his mind back to all those times Kevin held him after and all those times he couldn't hold Kevin after and it breaks him a little?
you know what? kevin and jean actually are the good ending of orpheus and eurydice.
if kevin had not walked away without looking back, jean would never have made it out of that hell.