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When asked about the first time she traveled with Epstein, Sjoberg said that they left Palm Beach, Florida, and flew to Atlantic City, New Jersey, for a few hours because of a storm in New York.

Jeffrey said, 'Great, we'll call up Trump and we'll go to'—I don't recall the name of the casino, but—'we'll go to the casino,'" Sjoberg said, according to her testimony.

While in Atlantic City, they went to one of Trump's casinos, according to Sjoberg, who said Giuffre was not allowed into the casino because she was underage.

Later, when asked if she ever massaged Trump, Sjoberg twice responded that she never did.

While Sjoberg denied ever touching Trump, she said that Prince Andrew put his hand on her breast at Epstein's New York City home in 2001.

Remember, context is key when trying to show dirt on someone.

Also, of the people fighting to keep their names private on the future documents, and currently release documents, Trump is not one of them, for he, supposedly, has nothing to hide.

One witness does not clear him when Epstein trafficked a lot more than that. Plus there’s the infamous “great guy, he likes em young,” bit.

This is from 2002, long before Epstein was known to be a sex trafficker, but was actively.

Plus the claim “they would have used it” is idiotic when any sufficient evidence would have destroyed them too.

And Trump was president when the documents being released were sealed. He might know what’s in them, so him being unconcerned about their release doesn’t exonerate him.

Aside from Trump being cleared the rest cleared were not ones implicated in the past, at least to my knowledge, while the rest named were implicated, and of those implicated only Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and the late Stephen Hawking were unredacted on said 900+ documents.

Yes, Epstein trafficked a lot of kids, and of all of them who have given testimonies, none have implicated Trump, for instance in the documents released, none accuse Clinton of improper behavior.

But Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s victims, testified about a trip Clinton made to Epstein’s island — a claim rebutted by former FBI Director Louis Freeh — and another of Epstein’s sex trafficking victims, Johanna Sjoberg, testified that Epstein had told her that Clinton “likes them young.”

Yes, Trump and Epstein were former friends, however that does not implicate Trump, for Johanna Sjoberg, one of Epstein’s victims, who said she was around him from 2001 to 2006, explicitly stated Trump was not a client, and she did not massage or have sex with him.

Remember, this hearing was being held during his Presidency, and the establishment was looking for any reason to remove him from power, her testimony, regardless of who else it implicated, would have been used, because like the current documents, names can and will be redacted.

No, in 2002, Trump told New York;

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Way to mash the testimony against Clinton with Trump's statement about someone's sexual proclivities, he did not say "Great Guy, he likes em young," but again, nice try.

After 2002 we hear nothing about Epstein and Trump, other than the fact Epstein was banned from Mar a Lago in 2004, and then Epstein was arrested in Palm Beach in 2005, after he was accused of paying a 14-year-old girl for sex.

No, the statement that they would have used any dirt on Trump is not idiotic, assuming they can't or won't think to redact documents however, is.

Especially considering every document released so far has been heavily redacted.

It kinda does.

>”you misquoted it”

Yes the actual quote disproves what I said. I knew the “Great guy, likes em young” was a paraphrase, that’s why I gave the original. To show that he does in fact think Epstein was a “great (terrific) guy” and “likes em young (on the younger side)”

In other words, paraphrasing a source involves changing the wording while preserving the original meaning.

See, I just paraphrased myself.

You did not paraphrase the above quote, you chose four words, and summarized it in a way so as to exclude the original meaning.

Yes, while Trump and Epstein were friends, he said he liked him, liking a friend, shocking I know, and yes, he said Epstein enjoys younger women, that however is not Trump saying kids, only that while with Trump, Epstein went after women younger than the norm, the same way Di Caprio does.

Choosing to summarize with the words "Great guy, he likes em young," is a deliberate move, one intended to paint Trump as a guilty party, when the evidence actually points to the contrary.

No I didn’t. And even if that was my plan(it wasn’t), why would I provide the original text? You can seethe all you want, it does not change the fact.

>evidence points to the contrary.

Doesn't matter if you maliciously chose to do this, or it's just happenstance, the reality is this is what you have done, your whinging to the contrary does not change the facts.

When asked about the first time she traveled with Epstein, Sjoberg said that they left Palm Beach, Florida, and flew to Atlantic City, New Jersey, for a few hours because of a storm in New York.

Jeffrey said, 'Great, we'll call up Trump and we'll go to'—I don't recall the name of the casino, but—'we'll go to the casino,'" Sjoberg said, according to her testimony.

While in Atlantic City, they went to one of Trump's casinos, according to Sjoberg, who said Giuffre was not allowed into the casino because she was underage.

Later, when asked if she ever massaged Trump, Sjoberg twice responded that she never did.

While Sjoberg denied ever touching Trump, she said that Prince Andrew put his hand on her breast at Epstein's New York City home in 2001.

Remember, context is key when trying to show dirt on someone.

Also, of the people fighting to keep their names private on the future documents, and currently release documents, Trump is not one of them, for he, supposedly, has nothing to hide.

One witness does not clear him when Epstein trafficked a lot more than that. Plus there’s the infamous “great guy, he likes em young,” bit.

This is from 2002, long before Epstein was known to be a sex trafficker, but was actively.

Plus the claim “they would have used it” is idiotic when any sufficient evidence would have destroyed them too.

And Trump was president when the documents being released were sealed. He might know what’s in them, so him being unconcerned about their release doesn’t exonerate him.

Aside from Trump being cleared the rest cleared were not ones implicated in the past, at least to my knowledge, while the rest named were implicated, and of those implicated only Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and the late Stephen Hawking were unredacted on said 900+ documents.

Yes, Epstein trafficked a lot of kids, and of all of them who have given testimonies, none have implicated Trump, for instance in the documents released, none accuse Clinton of improper behavior.

But Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s victims, testified about a trip Clinton made to Epstein’s island — a claim rebutted by former FBI Director Louis Freeh — and another of Epstein’s sex trafficking victims, Johanna Sjoberg, testified that Epstein had told her that Clinton “likes them young.”

Yes, Trump and Epstein were former friends, however that does not implicate Trump, for Johanna Sjoberg, one of Epstein’s victims, who said she was around him from 2001 to 2006, explicitly stated Trump was not a client, and she did not massage or have sex with him.

Remember, this hearing was being held during his Presidency, and the establishment was looking for any reason to remove him from power, her testimony, regardless of who else it implicated, would have been used, because like the current documents, names can and will be redacted.

No, in 2002, Trump told New York;

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Way to mash the testimony against Clinton with Trump's statement about someone's sexual proclivities, he did not say "Great Guy, he likes em young," but again, nice try.

After 2002 we hear nothing about Epstein and Trump, other than the fact Epstein was banned from Mar a Lago in 2004, and then Epstein was arrested in Palm Beach in 2005, after he was accused of paying a 14-year-old girl for sex.

No, the statement that they would have used any dirt on Trump is not idiotic, assuming they can't or won't think to redact documents however, is.

Especially considering every document released so far has been heavily redacted.

It kinda does.

>”you misquoted it”

Yes the actual quote disproves what I said. I knew the “Great guy, likes em young” was a paraphrase, that’s why I gave the original. To show that he does in fact think Epstein was a “great (terrific) guy” and “likes em young (on the younger side)”

In other words, paraphrasing a source involves changing the wording while preserving the original meaning.

See, I just paraphrased myself.

You did not paraphrase the above quote, you chose four words, and summarized it in a way so as to exclude the original meaning.

Yes, while Trump and Epstein were friends, he said he liked him, liking a friend, shocking I know, and yes, he said Epstein enjoys younger women, that however is not Trump saying kids, only that while with Trump, Epstein went after women younger than the norm, the same way Di Caprio does.

Choosing to summarize with the words "Great guy, he likes em young," is a deliberate move, one intended to paint Trump as a guilty party, when the evidence actually points to the contrary.

No I didn’t. And even if that was my plan(it wasn’t), why would I provide the original text? You can seethe all you want, it does not change the fact.

>evidence points to the contrary.

When asked about the first time she traveled with Epstein, Sjoberg said that they left Palm Beach, Florida, and flew to Atlantic City, New Jersey, for a few hours because of a storm in New York.

Jeffrey said, 'Great, we'll call up Trump and we'll go to'—I don't recall the name of the casino, but—'we'll go to the casino,'" Sjoberg said, according to her testimony.

While in Atlantic City, they went to one of Trump's casinos, according to Sjoberg, who said Giuffre was not allowed into the casino because she was underage.

Later, when asked if she ever massaged Trump, Sjoberg twice responded that she never did.

While Sjoberg denied ever touching Trump, she said that Prince Andrew put his hand on her breast at Epstein's New York City home in 2001.

Remember, context is key when trying to show dirt on someone.

Also, of the people fighting to keep their names private on the future documents, and currently release documents, Trump is not one of them, for he, supposedly, has nothing to hide.

One witness does not clear him when Epstein trafficked a lot more than that. Plus there’s the infamous “great guy, he likes em young,” bit.

This is from 2002, long before Epstein was known to be a sex trafficker, but was actively.

Plus the claim “they would have used it” is idiotic when any sufficient evidence would have destroyed them too.

And Trump was president when the documents being released were sealed. He might know what’s in them, so him being unconcerned about their release doesn’t exonerate him.

Aside from Trump being cleared the rest cleared were not ones implicated in the past, at least to my knowledge, while the rest named were implicated, and of those implicated only Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and the late Stephen Hawking were unredacted on said 900+ documents.

Yes, Epstein trafficked a lot of kids, and of all of them who have given testimonies, none have implicated Trump, for instance in the documents released, none accuse Clinton of improper behavior.

But Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s victims, testified about a trip Clinton made to Epstein’s island — a claim rebutted by former FBI Director Louis Freeh — and another of Epstein’s sex trafficking victims, Johanna Sjoberg, testified that Epstein had told her that Clinton “likes them young.”

Yes, Trump and Epstein were former friends, however that does not implicate Trump, for Johanna Sjoberg, one of Epstein’s victims, who said she was around him from 2001 to 2006, explicitly stated Trump was not a client, and she did not massage or have sex with him.

Remember, this hearing was being held during his Presidency, and the establishment was looking for any reason to remove him from power, her testimony, regardless of who else it implicated, would have been used, because like the current documents, names can and will be redacted.

No, in 2002, Trump told New York;

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Way to mash the testimony against Clinton with Trump's statement about someone's sexual proclivities, he did not say "Great Guy, he likes em young," but again, nice try.

After 2002 we hear nothing about Epstein and Trump, other than the fact Epstein was banned from Mar a Lago in 2004, and then Epstein was arrested in Palm Beach in 2005, after he was accused of paying a 14-year-old girl for sex.

No, the statement that they would have used any dirt on Trump is not idiotic, assuming they can't or won't think to redact documents however, is.

Especially considering every document released so far has been heavily redacted.

It kinda does.

>”you misquoted it”

Yes the actual quote disproves what I said. I knew the “Great guy, likes em young” was a paraphrase, that’s why I gave the original. To show that he does in fact think Epstein was a “great (terrific) guy” and “likes em young (on the younger side)”

When asked about the first time she traveled with Epstein, Sjoberg said that they left Palm Beach, Florida, and flew to Atlantic City, New Jersey, for a few hours because of a storm in New York.

Jeffrey said, 'Great, we'll call up Trump and we'll go to'—I don't recall the name of the casino, but—'we'll go to the casino,'" Sjoberg said, according to her testimony.

While in Atlantic City, they went to one of Trump's casinos, according to Sjoberg, who said Giuffre was not allowed into the casino because she was underage.

Later, when asked if she ever massaged Trump, Sjoberg twice responded that she never did.

While Sjoberg denied ever touching Trump, she said that Prince Andrew put his hand on her breast at Epstein's New York City home in 2001.

Remember, context is key when trying to show dirt on someone.

Also, of the people fighting to keep their names private on the future documents, and currently release documents, Trump is not one of them, for he, supposedly, has nothing to hide.

One witness does not clear him when Epstein trafficked a lot more than that. Plus there’s the infamous “great guy, he likes em young,” bit.

This is from 2002, long before Epstein was known to be a sex trafficker, but was actively.

Plus the claim “they would have used it” is idiotic when any sufficient evidence would have destroyed them too.

And Trump was president when the documents being released were sealed. He might know what’s in them, so him being unconcerned about their release doesn’t exonerate him.

Aside from Trump being cleared the rest cleared were not ones implicated in the past, at least to my knowledge, while the rest named were implicated, and of those implicated only Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and the late Stephen Hawking were unredacted on said 900+ documents.

Yes, Epstein trafficked a lot of kids, and of all of them who have given testimonies, none have implicated Trump, for instance in the documents released, none accuse Clinton of improper behavior.

But Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s victims, testified about a trip Clinton made to Epstein’s island — a claim rebutted by former FBI Director Louis Freeh — and another of Epstein’s sex trafficking victims, Johanna Sjoberg, testified that Epstein had told her that Clinton “likes them young.”

Yes, Trump and Epstein were former friends, however that does not implicate Trump, for Johanna Sjoberg, one of Epstein’s victims, who said she was around him from 2001 to 2006, explicitly stated Trump was not a client, and she did not massage or have sex with him.

Remember, this hearing was being held during his Presidency, and the establishment was looking for any reason to remove him from power, her testimony, regardless of who else it implicated, would have been used, because like the current documents, names can and will be redacted.

No, in 2002, Trump told New York;

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Way to mash the testimony against Clinton with Trump's statement about someone's sexual proclivities, he did not say "Great Guy, he likes em young," but again, nice try.

After 2002 we hear nothing about Epstein and Trump, other than the fact Epstein was banned from Mar a Lago in 2004, and then Epstein was arrested in Palm Beach in 2005, after he was accused of paying a 14-year-old girl for sex.

No, the statement that they would have used any dirt on Trump is not idiotic, assuming they can't or won't think to redact documents however, is.

Especially considering every document released so far has been heavily redacted.

It kinda does.

>”you misquoted it”

When asked about the first time she traveled with Epstein, Sjoberg said that they left Palm Beach, Florida, and flew to Atlantic City, New Jersey, for a few hours because of a storm in New York.

Jeffrey said, 'Great, we'll call up Trump and we'll go to'—I don't recall the name of the casino, but—'we'll go to the casino,'" Sjoberg said, according to her testimony.

While in Atlantic City, they went to one of Trump's casinos, according to Sjoberg, who said Giuffre was not allowed into the casino because she was underage.

Later, when asked if she ever massaged Trump, Sjoberg twice responded that she never did.

While Sjoberg denied ever touching Trump, she said that Prince Andrew put his hand on her breast at Epstein's New York City home in 2001.

Remember, context is key when trying to show dirt on someone.

Also, of the people fighting to keep their names private on the future documents, and currently release documents, Trump is not one of them, for he, supposedly, has nothing to hide.

One witness does not clear him when Epstein trafficked a lot more than that. Plus there’s the infamous “great guy, he likes em young,” bit.

This is from 2002, long before Epstein was known to be a sex trafficker, but was actively.

Plus the claim “they would have used it” is idiotic when any sufficient evidence would have destroyed them too.

And Trump was president when the documents being released were sealed. He might know what’s in them, so him being unconcerned about their release doesn’t exonerate him.

Aside from Trump being cleared the rest cleared were not ones implicated in the past, at least to my knowledge, while the rest named were implicated, and of those implicated only Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and the late Stephen Hawking were unredacted on said 900+ documents.

Yes, Epstein trafficked a lot of kids, and of all of them who have given testimonies, none have implicated Trump, for instance in the documents released, none accuse Clinton of improper behavior.

But Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s victims, testified about a trip Clinton made to Epstein’s island — a claim rebutted by former FBI Director Louis Freeh — and another of Epstein’s sex trafficking victims, Johanna Sjoberg, testified that Epstein had told her that Clinton “likes them young.”

Yes, Trump and Epstein were former friends, however that does not implicate Trump, for Johanna Sjoberg, one of Epstein’s victims, who said she was around him from 2001 to 2006, explicitly stated Trump was not a client, and she did not massage or have sex with him.

Remember, this hearing was being held during his Presidency, and the establishment was looking for any reason to remove him from power, her testimony, regardless of who else it implicated, would have been used, because like the current documents, names can and will be redacted.

No, in 2002, Trump told New York;

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Way to mash the testimony against Clinton with Trump's statement about someone's sexual proclivities, he did not say "Great Guy, he likes em young," but again, nice try.

After 2002 we hear nothing about Epstein and Trump, other than the fact Epstein was banned from Mar a Lago in 2004, and then Epstein was arrested in Palm Beach in 2005, after he was accused of paying a 14-year-old girl for sex.

No, the statement that they would have used any dirt on Trump is not idiotic, assuming they can't or won't think to redact documents however, is.

Especially considering every document released so far has been heavily redacted.

It kinda does.