[BOB LAUGHS] ‘it was getting so tense in here for a second.’

[+] bts, lewis pullman with the cast.

bobby (+ the void)

“when was the last time you do a shadow?” — “i’m shy.”

lewis pullman biting his lips.

“He’s very malleable and easily influenced because he hasn’t had a real, strong, reliable source of love in his life. There’s a contrast between being this all-powerful being and then having your greatest weakness and your main Achilles’ heel be your own self.”

“Once we were on set and we were moving from shame room to shame room [in the film’s third act], I realized the power of the symbolism and getting to visualize these labyrinths of anxiety and trauma we subject ourselves to. It really uses the format incredibly intelligently because so much of what we’re talking about takes place in our minds. Wyatt Russell [who plays John Walker] said something brilliant the other day. He said, ‘A lot of Marvel is about the exploration of outer space, and this is the exploration of inner space, of the mind, which is just as limitless as outer space is.’ I thought that was a good way to frame it.”

LEWIS PULLMAN — about his craziest day on set filming thunderbolts*

“That’s scarier than any other part of the process. It’s just so many unnatural elements in that room. I grew up a very anxious kid and not very socially apt in a lot of ways. I was like, If I can do this, I can be a ninja conversationally outside of that. I said yes to everything. I wanted to just do as much as possible, no matter how embarrassing or humiliatingly clownish it was. I was like, It doesn’t matter, because I just need to be able to not treat the camera like a villain and treat it like a friend. There’s so much blackmail material out there of me where I was just trying to figure it out.”

“We wanted to make sure it wasn’t so compartmentalized, that it was always clear that it was one person. It was never this code-switching, or this kind of lily pad–hopping to a completely different person. They are all qualities and parts of one person.”

LEWIS AND DANNY AT THE THUNDERBOLTS* PREMIERE IN LA.

LEWIS PULLMAN PHOTOGRAPHED BY STORM SANTOS.

“I always had this big dream about, ‘How can I use what I learned in my social work studies in film, and tell a story that makes a difference and touches people?’ I think [Thunderbolts*] is the perfect manifestation of that.”

LEWIS PULLMAN photographed by dylan perlot for numéro netherlands.