Ardent Ardite

animated the thornring scene from deltarune chapter 4 weird route!

eehh am i misunderstanding? im still under the notion that kris doesnt want the weird route to happen and we’re literally forcing their hand… (unless if you’re specifically talking about the perceptions from other characters like dess, which i address later in this response)

there is that one bit of dialogue that suggests kris might have Enjoyed what happened in ch2 weird route but to me it comes off as intrusive thoughts-esque more than anything. and like, assuming this is more so in reference to chapter 4 (since that’s all ive been drawing recently lol) i honestly dont think they did any of That by their own volition. it just doesnt line up with my own reading of kris, at least.

you can have whatever perspective of the weird route you want, but if anything i think i make it especially clear in my work that We are the ones behind this and that kris is pretty miserable the whole time. i decided to pull this from my side twt:

and i would say our motives arent always necessarily incomprehensible. they might be to the characters (or anyone who isnt kris) but at least when it comes to kris, and maybe the knight and gaster and whoever freaking else might be In On All This, a lot of it comes down to just curiosity. we all want to see how bad things can possibly get and see if it will affect the story or ending. gaster would probably understand this, and i think kris would be able to comprehend it even if they’d be ultra super pissed about it

anyway, i unfortunately dont really feel the way you described… i think there’d have to be extremely specific conditions for kris to ever consider doing all that on their own, and the scenario in my head is an AU that involves timeloops so you can imagine how much more complicated things might get. if this ask was spurred on by my recent comic, i thought i made it relatively clear that kris was not all that pleased about what transpired despite the fact that the player isn’t really brought up at all in it. a lot of it is like, kris being able to say “it wasnt really me” doesnt matter anymore, not like it did in chapter 2. so much shit has irreversibly hit the fan that it doesnt matter who did it — it’s done, and noelle is kinda fucked in the head as a result, and kris has to face the consequences of our mess now. dess talks to kris as though everything was voluntary, but that doesn’t mean it actually was; because this dess is basically a pure manifestation of all their guilt, they think they no longer deserved to be comforted by being told “it wasnt really you” and instead ought to be punished in some way for letting it all happen (even though it’s not that simple at all). to be treated as if they were completely responsible. do they Really feel this way? no, they know it was us, of course. but that guilt becomes so strong and illogical that it starts to not matter anymore.