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shoutout to everyone dealing with. thhe fucking difficulty

i think there is a productive way to have the conversation that scott was bombarded with too much all at once—emotional and physical instability due to being a werewolf, being thrust into taking upon an alpha position, having to fight other people’s wars as a teenager—and that this impacted his friendship with stiles—a normal human being—without acting like scott purposely sidelined or emotionally abused him like please. please can you look at these characters as the teens thrust into impossible situations that they are and stop acting like they committed irredeemable high treason because their circumstances overwhelmed their capacity to be perfect

It's hard to rewatch "TeenWolf" in adulthood, because I really want to maintain a good attitude towards some characters, but they do everything to spoil it. Guys, Scott is so irresponsible. I mean, you kidnapped Jackson so that he wouldn't kill anyone and instead of watching him, you decide to have fun with Allison in the car? It's a funny fact, but the most severe consequences of this were for Stiles, because his father was unofficially fired and it ruined their relationship.

ikr stiles too like when he had a bunch of random high schoolers beat up scott to teach him control like what if he shifted in response in broad daylight? what if he defended himself with claws and fangs as a freshly turned werewolf teenager and really hurt them? what was stiles thinking? or when he covered up a murder he didn't even commit in season 5 and it ruined he and scott's relationship? teenagers on teen wolf, fork found in kitchen i guess but damn

Oh, honey, I know what you're doing) and I'm very much in agreement with the first half - it was very irresponsible on the part of Stiles and dangerous for others and not only for Scott. BUT you don't compare the whole situation with Donovan in season 5 and the senseless desire to fuck in the car, okay?)

considering the "rewatching teen wolf in adulthood" premise of your post, i'd assume scott's proportionate teenage irresponsibility of wanting to fuck in a car would be considered less irresponsible based on sheer practicality than, say, covering up a murder stiles didn't even actually commit, the consequences of which were much more severe than that of scott (and allison, whose responsibility isn't even discussed here as an equal metric of frustration, but i digress) wanting to have sex with his girlfriend like many teenagers and adults alike get to indulge in, seeing as someone (donavan) was literally dead, and then stiles' dad was almost dead, and scott was actually killed by the same guy that almost killed stiles' dad and who stiles helped cover a separate murder with for the sole purpose of maintaining zero responsibility for what he felt was his own. my bad though

I don't understand why I need to explain that comparing the fifth season with the moment in the car with Jackson is stupid, NOT because I defend Stiles, but because the whole fifth season the whole chain of events is the fault of Theo and the Dread Doctors; you compare damn different situations both in circumstances and in scale. Donovan was an adult problem. Jackson was an adult problem. ALL the villains were the problems of adults. And my post is not a hate towards Scott or anything. Yeah, I still think that fucking in the car when you have the simplest task - watching, is irresponsibility. I have a post where I talked about Stiles' irresponsibility too. Thats was not even that deep, before you of course

"scott is so irresponsible" was your elaboration on what makes rewatching teen wolf as an adult hard. you then proceed to give an example within the text for what's so hard about it. i then gave an example within the text that challenges this elaboration of scott's responsibility being a point of frustration in a more matured rewatch to the point that the rewatch becomes hard in order to point out the discrepancy of understanding applied to each character mentioned in your original statement. your post about season 5 at no point brings up stiles' irresponsibly as a point of frustration that makes a rewatch as an adult hard, but is instead understood as a coherent and sympathetic conflict within the story. i don't understand why a teenager having sex with his girlfriend after she's admitted she wants to plan her future with him at her side that then coincides with the kanima's escape -- which we can reasonably assume they wouldn't have been able to prevent anyway, let alone without one or both of them being hurt, as later in the same season and with more at their disposal than an escort van and two teenagers we observe the kanima making similar escapes on more than one occasion, regardless of how vigilant those attempting to catch it are -- is not equally understandable as a coherent and sympathetic conflict within the story. i don't understand why i have to explain this either.

It's hard to rewatch "TeenWolf" in adulthood, because I really want to maintain a good attitude towards some characters, but they do everything to spoil it. Guys, Scott is so irresponsible. I mean, you kidnapped Jackson so that he wouldn't kill anyone and instead of watching him, you decide to have fun with Allison in the car? It's a funny fact, but the most severe consequences of this were for Stiles, because his father was unofficially fired and it ruined their relationship.

ikr stiles too like when he had a bunch of random high schoolers beat up scott to teach him control like what if he shifted in response in broad daylight? what if he defended himself with claws and fangs as a freshly turned werewolf teenager and really hurt them? what was stiles thinking? or when he covered up a murder he didn't even commit in season 5 and it ruined he and scott's relationship? teenagers on teen wolf, fork found in kitchen i guess but damn

Oh, honey, I know what you're doing) and I'm very much in agreement with the first half - it was very irresponsible on the part of Stiles and dangerous for others and not only for Scott. BUT you don't compare the whole situation with Donovan in season 5 and the senseless desire to fuck in the car, okay?)

considering the "rewatching teen wolf in adulthood" premise of your post, i'd assume scott's proportionate teenage irresponsibility of wanting to fuck in a car would be considered less irresponsible based on sheer practicality than, say, covering up a murder stiles didn't even actually commit, the consequences of which were much more severe than that of scott (and allison, whose responsibility isn't even discussed here as an equal metric of frustration, but i digress) wanting to have sex with his girlfriend like many teenagers and adults alike get to indulge in, seeing as someone (donavan) was literally dead, and then stiles' dad was almost dead, and scott was actually killed by the same guy that almost killed stiles' dad and who stiles helped cover a separate murder with for the sole purpose of maintaining zero responsibility for what he felt was his own. my bad though

I don't understand why I need to explain that comparing the fifth season with the moment in the car with Jackson is stupid, NOT because I defend Stiles, but because the whole fifth season the whole chain of events is the fault of Theo and the Dread Doctors; you compare damn different situations both in circumstances and in scale. Donovan was an adult problem. Jackson was an adult problem. ALL the villains were the problems of adults. And my post is not a hate towards Scott or anything. Yeah, I still think that fucking in the car when you have the simplest task - watching, is irresponsibility. I have a post where I talked about Stiles' irresponsibility too. Thats was not even that deep, before you of course

"scott is so irresponsible" was your elaboration on what makes rewatching teen wolf as an adult hard. you then proceed to give an example within the text for what's so hard about it. i then gave an example within the text that challenges this elaboration of scott's responsibility being a point of frustration in a more matured rewatch to the point that the rewatch becomes hard in order to point out the discrepancy of understanding applied to each character mentioned in your original statement. your post about season 5 at no point brings up stiles' irresponsibly as a point of frustration that makes a rewatch as an adult hard, but is instead understood as a coherent and sympathetic conflict within the story. i don't understand why a teenager having sex with his girlfriend after she's admitted she wants to plan her future with him at her side that then coincides with the kanima's escape -- which we can reasonably assume they wouldn't have been able to prevent anyway, let alone without one or both of them being hurt, as later in the same season and with more at their disposal than an escort van and two teenagers we observe the kanima making similar escapes on more than one occasion, regardless of how vigilant those attempting to catch it are -- is not equally understandable as a coherent and sympathetic conflict within the story. i don't understand why i have to explain this either.

It's hard to rewatch "TeenWolf" in adulthood, because I really want to maintain a good attitude towards some characters, but they do everything to spoil it. Guys, Scott is so irresponsible. I mean, you kidnapped Jackson so that he wouldn't kill anyone and instead of watching him, you decide to have fun with Allison in the car? It's a funny fact, but the most severe consequences of this were for Stiles, because his father was unofficially fired and it ruined their relationship.

ikr stiles too like when he had a bunch of random high schoolers beat up scott to teach him control like what if he shifted in response in broad daylight? what if he defended himself with claws and fangs as a freshly turned werewolf teenager and really hurt them? what was stiles thinking? or when he covered up a murder he didn't even commit in season 5 and it ruined he and scott's relationship? teenagers on teen wolf, fork found in kitchen i guess but damn

Oh, honey, I know what you're doing) and I'm very much in agreement with the first half - it was very irresponsible on the part of Stiles and dangerous for others and not only for Scott. BUT you don't compare the whole situation with Donovan in season 5 and the senseless desire to fuck in the car, okay?)

considering the "rewatching teen wolf in adulthood" premise of your post, i'd assume scott's proportionate teenage irresponsibility of wanting to fuck in a car would be considered less irresponsible based on sheer practicality than, say, covering up a murder stiles didn't even actually commit, the consequences of which were much more severe than that of scott (and allison, whose responsibility isn't even discussed here as an equal metric of frustration, but i digress) wanting to have sex with his girlfriend like many teenagers and adults alike get to indulge in, seeing as someone (donavan) was literally dead, and then stiles' dad was almost dead, and scott was actually killed by the same guy that almost killed stiles' dad and who stiles helped cover a separate murder with for the sole purpose of maintaining zero responsibility for what he felt was his own. my bad though

It's hard to rewatch "TeenWolf" in adulthood, because I really want to maintain a good attitude towards some characters, but they do everything to spoil it. Guys, Scott is so irresponsible. I mean, you kidnapped Jackson so that he wouldn't kill anyone and instead of watching him, you decide to have fun with Allison in the car? It's a funny fact, but the most severe consequences of this were for Stiles, because his father was unofficially fired and it ruined their relationship.

ikr stiles too like when he had a bunch of random high schoolers beat up scott to teach him control like what if he shifted in response in broad daylight? what if he defended himself with claws and fangs as a freshly turned werewolf teenager and really hurt them? what was stiles thinking? or when he covered up a murder he didn't even commit in season 5 and it ruined he and scott's relationship? teenagers on teen wolf, fork found in kitchen i guess but damn

i see your death of the author and raise you: death of the fandom, for when other fans and the content they produce are so unbearably bad that you divorce yourself entirely from the fanbase except for one or two Trusted Mutuals™️

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