huge fan of how percy, one step away from godhood, decided to win in the most human way possible in tlo. huge fan of how percy's decision to trust in annabeth and hand the dagger to luke is the human way of winning, as opposed to choosing to continue the fight, and how that makes zeus' offer of godhood seem ridiculous after the fact. huge fan of how percy chooses neither mortality (avoiding his demigod life with rachel) nor immortality (seeking glory by defeating luke the traditional way/literally becoming a god) and instead chooses to stay in the weird middle ground of having one foot in both worlds (being a demigod), and how, in doing so, he chooses annabeth (his tether to the mortal world as he bathes in the river styx to gain his near-immortality). which makes it really unfortunate when in hoo, the curse of achilles--
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Percy and Annabeth NEVER FREAKING FOLLOW UP about the botl kiss. Literally in the demigod files, heâs just like âoh yeah my best friend Annabeth Chase.â Boy, she KISSED you! wake up. No wonder Annabeth always looked like she wanted to punch/stab/kill him
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Is it just me or in the s3 trailer does Percy not really look like heâs struggling? Like at the very end yeah, but for the beginning part heâs just casually holding it up??? The sky looks very much like a stage prop he just slipped underneath.
The first few chapters of sea of monsters are DIABOLICAL when you know Annabeth was invisible watching everything.
Percy having a home cooked sentimental breakfast with his mom -> Annabeth wistfully wondering if this is what itâs like to have a family
The Lord of the Flies themed final in which a bunch of seventh graders were allowed to beat each other up unsupervised -> Annabeth thinking maybe mortal school is more like camp than she gave it credit for
Percy getting teased about the picture of her he keeps -> ANNABETH IS RIGHT THERE AND SHE NEVER BRINGS IT UP LATER. She must have been blushing so hard over her crush
Deadly game of dodgeball? -> she doesnât intervene until the literal last second. She isnât rushing in to be the hero, which she craved in tlt. She lets Percy do his thing.
I saw a video comparing how Percy's water powers are represented in a more interesting way in the movies than they ever were in the tv show and predictably people (i.e show glazers) were throwing tantrums in the comments. Their main defense was that the show was following the progression of the books and those awful movies rushed everything.
I'll throw them a bone here and agree with one thing; Percy wasn't exactly spamming his powers throughout pjo, and the stuff he does in the first 3 books are fairly tame compared to what he does later. But i find this argument it really funny because
a) these people are the it's an adaptation, of course there will be changes warriors. And pjotv being an adaptation for the TV medium, they should find a way to portray Percy's powers in a way that's more interesting than, let's say, a single jet of water.
b) nice double standard you have there, buddy. So now you care about book accuracy? How convenient. The show making Percy say Mark of Athena worthy declarations to Annabeth in every episode didn't bother you? Percy giving the other campers a motivational speech before leading them to a battle to defend Camp â which wasn't supposed to happen until book four, by the way â didn't bother you? So they can rush percabeth and Percy's leadership arc but making him seem powerful and cool as he uses his powers is too much for you?
We all know their real problem is budget, time constraints and what the people behind the show choose to prioritize. But it's not about making Percy use his powers more often; the problem is that, when he does, it looks like shit. And i'm no specialist, but I think a little more creativity, an improve in lighting, and better directing could've easily fixed it.
I'll put the comparisons under the cut.
1) water healing Percy
Not much to complain here. You can clearly see what's going on, they zoom in his cuts and show the water healing him as it passes over his wounds.
2) Percy controlling water on purpose for the first time
Show!Percy actively uses his powers for the first time in waterland to save both him and Annabeth from drowning. I can't make a gif look good to save my life but I turned the brightness and saturation up and its still hard to see what's going on. The scene is dark, there are a lot of bubbles in front of his face. We see Percy extending his arm, then the water moves in what seems to be a jet and... Nothing. Cut to black. Percy and Annabeth are now on land, soaked, and she looks at him and asks "Did just pulled me out of there with that water power stuff?" And Percy answers "I don't know." Now WHY would you do that? Your protagonist uses his powers in purpose for the first time and instead of showing us you have the characters talking about it?
Now with movie!Percy, this happens at the museum, when they're battling the Hydra. This scene doesn't exist in the book but again, neither does the golden chair one from the show.
He needs to get the pearl, but the monster cornered him. Now look at what happens: movie!Percy notices the drinking fountain. You can see the idea forming in his mind. He extends his arm, closes his eyes and concentrate. Boom, the water explodes. He moves his hand towards the monster and redirects the water to form a shield. He gets he pearl and run, then the shield fall apart after he's gone.
Now, maybe there's more water than realistically would be inside a drinking fountain, idk. But it looks cool, and, more importantly, you can see what is happening. You can see his concentration when he's calling the water, and you can see that it worked instead of cutting to black. This is very much in line with book!Percy's narration when he's trying to use his power.
3) using his powers in battle
Show!Percy uses it in the fight against Ares on the beach. Despite the coloring being quite dull (thank you, volume stage) you can see what's happening with no trouble. Percy stands there, glowering at Ares as the water surges behind him in a great wave. There's an effect showing some kind of air pocket shielding him from the impact and the wave crashes against Ares.
It's... Fine. It's pretty much what happens in the book. It could have been more interesting of Percy had made some gesture with his arms or hands to guide the wave instead of standing there and they could have dragged the scene a little longer, but it's fine.
But it's not nearly as visually interesting as what happens in the movie. Again, movie!Percy closes his eyes in concentration, again, he extends his hands towards the water source â a water tower. The water circles the rooftop around Percy, then he moves his arms towards Luke and the water follows his movements. We can see Luke struggling, drowning, then Percy opens his arms and the water receeds, forming an arch around him. Hate this movie all you want, but this scene looks cool as fuck.
4) controlling the waves to steer a boat
Show!Percy does this in the Sea of Monsters to escape charybdis. And here comes the lighting problem again. I get that they are in the middle of a storm, but i need to see what's going on. The first time I watched the scene I genuinly couldn't see anything other than show!Percy standing on the deck aura farming. Later, I increased the brightness on my screen and could see the waves moving in front of the ironclad. I really think they should have made Percy's powers more obvious. I liked the acting here, he was clearly struggling for control against the raging sea but maybe they could, I don't know made the ship spin because of charybdis whirlpool and then righting itself for the few seconds Percy managed to shift the current. Maybe show Clarisse missing a few shots with her Canon then suddenly being able to aim because Percy managed to keep the ship on course before everything exploded. I thought of this in 5 minutes, couldn't anyone involved with the show come up with something similar?
Movie! Percy has an easier task because he's not in the Sea of Monsters and we can see better because there's no storm. But again, the movie makes what he's doing much more clear. He's concentrates, the waves start slowly, then increased intensity until the Princess of Andromeda is rocking against a very agitated sea. Plus, him riding that wave to escape? Very cunty of him.
Now, only compared scenes that had a similar context in the movie and the show. That means left out movie!Percy healing Annabeth and making a Trident out of water and show!Percy accidentally attacking Nancy and the supreme lord of the bathroom incident. While I do like the bathroom scene, with the water coming out of the toilet and hitting the campers, I thought the one with Nancy was a bit confusing. At first glance seems more that show!Percy has telekinetic powers than anything related to water.
I already talked about him on the Ironclad, but another scene that was terrible directed was the one with the sirens. I hate this scene for many reasons, but this one has the same problems of the one in waterland. What do you mean your protagonist is using his powers to save his friend from being devoured and you don't show it? I'm not even talking about the lack of bubble, but why, for the love of god, the camera was focusing on his back?
This is awful. There's a fanart showing that scene from another angle and its so much better. Why didn't they show their faces? Why they were only there for 3 seconds before they decided to focus on the bottom of the ocean? The sirens ate a lot of demigods, we know, we get it! We literally watched a demigod get eaten and circe talked about this ad nauseam just a few minutes before. They didn't have to waste like 10 seconds showing us the junk at the bottom when they could have focused on Percy's powers.
Coming back to people's defense of Percy's powers in the show, if in season 1 he made that giant wave, the natural progression for season 2 should be something equally, if not more, impressive. I liked that Percy's mood affected the water in Circe's Island, but other than that they were even less creative with Percy's powers this season.
There were 2 episodes with fight scenes on Princess Andromeda this season. In the first one Percy was literally flanked by a pool on one side and the ocean on the other. He was getting his ass beat by Allison, he could have used his powers. Instead of him tackling Annabeth out of the way and Allison falling over, he could have washed her away with a wave or a jet, something like this:
Same with the fight against Luke... There was no water inside the coffin room, but again, he was on a ship! He could have used his powers to hold Luke back as he ran with the fleece.
But I really think he should have used his powers in the season finale. They were already pulling shit from botl, might as well go all in and have Percy controlling water to drive the monsters back. I talked here about how it makes no sense that they just cut the scene to black after Percy passed out and didn't show us how Camp drove the Titan Army away. A recent interview revealed that the Party Ponies were supposed to show up as reinforcement and were cut for budget reasons. But they could have easily fixed by changing the order of events. Percy could have impaled the fleece with a spear and tell Clarisse "wait for my cue" or something of the sort. Then he could call a massive wave to push the TA back, and after they were outside of the border, Clarisse hit the tree, restoring the barrier and freeing Thalia. Only then, the lightning and Percy passing out.
It might not be a genius idea but it makes more sense to me than having the TA scrambling away from the tree right before the scene cuts to black and we never see how Camp managed to win the battle.
Anyway, this is too long already. Just my two cents in how they could've done Percy's powers without changing the scenes or demanding a much higher budget. They don't need to reinvent the wheel, just make a few adjustments to improve the show.
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POV itâs 2050 and they attempted to adapt the Percy Jackson books again.
And itâs funny. Percy is a little kid who sasses off to the gods, thinks the funniest crap, and is accused of being a terrorist. Annabeth is flawed, chaotic unhinged, and smart. Their friendship is just thatâfriendshipâuntil BotL. The world of the gods is truly magical.
(Movies in the animation style of the spider verse would be a fabulous choice but thatâs besides the point)
Just want to clarify that when I say Iâm sick of remakes/sequels, Iâm referring to live action Disney, Greek mythology retellings, Wuthering Heights, etc and NOT the hunger games
please keep making hunger games sequels/prequels I will devour them
that weird era pjo fandom went through where fanon Percy was this happy-go-lucky-human-golden-retriever-frat-bro becomes even weirder when you realise Percy barely smiled or laughed over the course of five books
smiling: 5 (1 uneasily, 1 under a spell, 1 during Cerebus face-off, 2 for Annabeth)
laughing: 3 (1 nervously, 1 making fun of Annabeth, 1 about Grover)
som:
smiling: 1 (grudging smile for Clarrise)
ttc:
laughing: 1 (the dam debacle)
botl:
smiling: 3 (1 with Calypso, 1 with Nico, 1 for Clarisse and Chris)
lauging: 1 (with Tyson)
tlo:
smiling: 5 (tried for a smile for Nico, 1 for Paul, 1 tried for a confident smile for Chiron, 1 at Hera sending cows at Annabeth, 1 at Bessie)
laughing: 2 (1 crazy laugh during a fight, 1 with Annabeth)
total smiles: 14
total laughs: 7
tlt:
"Your father and Zeus are having their worst quarrel in centuries. They are fighting over something valuable that was stolen. To be precise: a lightning bolt.â I laughed nervously. âA what?â"
"I laughed. âYou? An architect?â"
"I smiled uneasily at the fat lady."
"I picked up the scarf. It shimmered pink, and the perfume was indescribable â rose, or mountain laurel. Something good. I smiled, a little dreamy, and was about to rub the scarf against my cheek when Annabeth ripped it out of my hand and stuffed it in her pocket."
"I thought he was asleep, but he mumbled from the corner, âI was pretty amazing, wasnât I?â Annabeth and I laughed."
"I took the big stick out of my backpack â a bed post Iâd broken off Crustyâs Safari Deluxe floor model. I held it up, and tried to channel happy dog thoughts towards Cerberus â Alpo commercials, cute little puppies, fire hydrants. I tried to smile like I wasnât about to die."
"âReconciliation,â she said. âAthena and Poseidon together.â My face felt a little warm, but I managed a smile. âThanks.â"
"She pursed her lips. âYou wonât try anything stupid during the school year, will you? At least⌠not without sending me an iris-message?â I managed a smile. âI wonât go looking for trouble. I usually donât have to.â"
som:
"I gave [Clarisse] a grudging smile. âWhat?â she demanded. âNothing,â I said. âJust good to be home.â"
ttc:
"I cracked up, and I probably wouldâve kept laughing all day, but then I heard a noise. âMoooo.â The smile melted off my face."
botl:
"[Calypso] would look at me and weâd share a smile"
"I laughed. âYeah. He throws really good rocks. Come on, big guy. Letâs have dinner.â"
"âI smiled. âMaybe itâs okay to still be a kid once in a while,â I tossed [Nico] the statuette."
"And as I watched Clarisse and Chris singing a stupid campfire song together, holding hands in the darkness, where they thought nobody could see them, I had to smile."
tlo:
"I was afraid I knew why Nico was here, but I tried for a smile"
"I couldnât help but smile. Paul was a pretty cool guy, even if he was my English teacher as well as my stepdad."
"That didnât exactly reassure me, but I nodded and tried to give him a confident smile."
"âI tried not to smile. âCows? In San Francisco?â"
"Despite all the serious stuff going on, I had to smile. Two years ago weâd spent a lot of time trying to save the Ophiotaurus from the Titans, and Iâd got kind of fond of him."
"I might have even laughed once or twice â a crazy laugh that scared me as much as it did my enemies."
"Annabeth was laughing, and I couldnât help laughing, too, even though my face was completely red."
Rick Riordan really spent 5 books accidentally writing the best character to ever exist and then spent another 20 trying to convince us he wasnât that great
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I have been listening to the lighting thief musical a lot recently, and it has made me understand what a Percy Jackson adaptation needs to be successful.
Namely, Percy needs to share his inner monologue and itâs as simple as that.
Literally the opening line of TLT musical: âthe gods are real, like the Greek gods, like the ones you learned about but werenât paying attention to you, well they donât pay attention to you eitherâ âĄď¸ right off the bat, this Percy is sarcastic and so done with things
âlook, a strange man in a Hawaiian shirtâ âĄď¸ classic Percy Jackson behavior
Good Kid has a chokehold on me: âI swear that Iâm a good kid, yes Iâm good for nothing at allâ âĄď¸ this song nails Percyâs character in a way neither the movie or show could do
Also the concentration of funny lines per run time in the musical matches the pacing of the books
Percyâs inner monologue is essential for 1) his humor and 2) his self doubt and fears, both of which are essential to his character. The inner monologue is what MAKES the Percy Jackson series what it is, and I think thatâs why the movie and show adaptations have fallen short.
I would place Percy Jackson in the same tier as Harry Potter and the Hunger Games for comparison purposes. Those two adaptations changed a lot of things about the source material too (albeit less) but ultimately the reason their adaptations worked is because the critical success factor for each story was different.
For Harry Potter, Iâd say the critical success factor was nailing the magic of the world, truly transporting you to Hogwarts and making the magic feel real. Bam. The movies did that.
For the Hunger Games, I would say the critical success factor is stirring up questions about morality, capitalism, entertainment, love, violence, innocence, etc. While THG movies changed things, at the end of the day, they brought up addressed those same issues in meaningful ways.
There are plenty of shows that include a character narrating and work that into the story. The two I think of first are Wednesday, where she talks a little bit at the beginning or end of an episode and How I Met Your Mother where the entire show is narrated by Ted. Specifically with HIMYM, the show is shot so creatively that you can tell it is FROM Tedâs perspective. Sometimes he doesnât know what other characters were doing and he admits it. Other times he forgot a girlâs name and he made one up in retrospect. This style of narration would be perfect for adapting Percy Jackson but it keeps things clearly from Percyâs POV and lets him bring in his iconic sarcastic humor to more parts of the story.