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Hi @daboyau! I absolutely LOVE your Rise Hunger Games Au and as I was reading, I wanted to know: what were Raphās games like? He had expressed his trauma of being unable to turn off his humanity in the arena to Donnie which intrigued me. Did something happen in the arena?
Ah!! Hello!!! This was a pleasant surprise to get in my inbox today. :)
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So basically. You know how Raph goes sort of feral when heās left alone? Itās like that in a way, except it really only happens in the arena when heās killing other tributes. So my thought is that he is brutally beating these other kids to death, not really able to control it even though some part of him in the back of his mind is thinking he could just walk away from the fight because the other tribute isnāt a threat anymore, but something just wonāt let him. Then he comes back to himself, covered in the blood of another child, and all those emotions that were stifled when he was in that state come rushing back in and he is absolutely horrified and sickened by what heās done.
so thatās got a lot to do with why he told Donnie to just separate himself and turn the emotions off if he can. He got to experience both sides of the coin, and he wishes so so desperately that he could go back to not feeling anything at all about what he did. It was so much better to just kill without remorse. It only hurt when he felt what heād done.
Iām not sure if this is quite what you were wanting/asking, so if you want any further clarification just let me know!
As a treat, hereās something I wrote two(?!?!) years ago about Raphās game. :)
When his name had been called, and after the initial rush ofĀ shockhorrorgriefpleasenoĀ was over, all Raph could feel was relief that it wasĀ himĀ and not any ofĀ them.Ā When he gathered his brothers together in his arms after the Reaping and held them close, feeling Leoās trembling, hearing Mikeyās weeping, seeing Donnieās blank stare, all he could think over and over and over again wasĀ thank youĀ andĀ I love youĀ andĀ Iām glad it was me and not you.Ā
āTake care of them,ā heād said, hands heavy on their dadās shoulders, more a command than a plea. He had stared back, eyes rimmed with red but cheeks dry. The scars had wrinkled and creased as his face crumpled with the attempt to continue holding back his tears. There was a frightening emptiness to his gaze, eyes unfocusing and focusing again, over and over. Heād seen it before, on days that something would remind pops of his own games and heād end up disappearing for days or locking himself in his bedroom until he could pull himself back together. Raph swallowed down his own tears, the scream that was building in his chest, and dug his fingers into his dadās shoulders until he felt the bones beneath shift and creak. Pops winced and blinked rapidly. Raph met his eyes and held his gaze until he was sure he was back enough to hear his words. āYouĀ haveĀ to be here for them. Promise me you will be, no matter what happens.ā
Pops was shaking, and he raised a hand to rest on Raphās. A tear slid down his cheek, its path jagged and shifting as it got caught in the divots and old gauges on his face. He nodded, and there was a determination in his eyes that eased some of the pressure inside Raphās chest. He pulled him close, wrapped him tight, whispered he loved him, and was secretly glad that it wasnāt popsā year to be the tributesā mentor. Heād be able to stay home with Mikey and Leo and Donnie and April. Heād have their support and theyād have his. It was something good, at least.Ā
The girl from his district was 17. She was a stranger to him, just as he was to her. She seemed to prefer it that way, snubbing every attempt he made to talk to her and refusing to look his way any time they found themselves in the same room. He got the feeling she hated him. He didnāt blame her for it. After all, she was pushed aside over and over, all the interviews and the sponsors focused only on the son of a victor. They were all hoping for a continuation of the legacy of the Capitolās sweetheart.
Maybe thatās why sheād been able to do what she did once they were in the arena. She hadnāt hesitated, even when she had him on his back, helpless and unarmed. The knife had missed his throat by centimeters, digging into the soft ground beside his head. He had whimpered, soft and sad. Her eyes were hard as she stared down at him, panting from the chase and the exertion of their scuffle.Ā
It was only the first night. Heād been hoping that he could get through at least a few days without a confrontation. Heād even dared to hope that he could win like a few lucky others had; by just waiting the games out and hiding himself away until he was the only one left standing. Even though he was the youngest tribute this year, heād made a point of showing off his size and strength during training, hoping desperately that by doing so heād be able to make his theoretical attackers reconsider coming after him since they would know heād have a fighting chance against them. If they hesitated, heād have a chance to run and get through this nightmare in a way he could live with.Ā
The girl from his district didnāt give him a chance to even try.Ā
It shouldnāt have felt like as much of a betrayal as it did.Ā
Raph screamed as he rolled away from another attack. Her eyes shone as she swung the silver knife at him. It glinted in the fake light of the arenaās pre-dawn as she snarled, āHold still! Donāt make this worse than it has to be!ā
āStop!ā Raph cried, scrambling to his feet. She hesitated, fear flashing across her face even though he stayed hunched, trying his best to look small. He was two years younger than her, but almost a full foot taller. āStop.Ā Please.Ā We can work together, or we can just walk away. You donāt have to do this!ā
āIām not gonna die in here,ā she hissed, advancing another step closer. Raph backed away, stumbling over the twisting vines that surrounded them. āIām not gonna let you kill me.ā
āI donāt want to!ā he shouted, and his voice cracked as tears burned in his eyes. She was smiling, but it wasnāt a happy one. It wasnāt even a mean one. She looked like she was going to start crying, too, and the stretch of her lips was all she could do to keep from breaking down.
He didnāt have any weapons. All heād grabbed when he fled the Bloodbath was a half-empty backpack, abandoned on the edge of the Cornucopiaās clearing by someone else. His fingers twitched, closing around empty air as he wracked his brain for something to do. He was taller; he could just knock her down and outrun her, right? A shove or a kick. He was still crouched, still shaky from adrenaline, but if he couldĀ justā
But it was too late. She surged forward before he could do anything, driving her weight into him, and the vines twisting around his ankles kept him from catching his balance. He grunted as he hit the ground, head bouncing off something hard hidden beneath the crawling vines. The knife grazed his arm as she fell on top of him, a line of sharp pain and a hot rush of blood soaking into the surrounding fabric of his bodysuit. His head was spinning, pounding like war-drums where it had hit the ground.Ā
āDonāt do this,ā he whimpered. He was trembling. Tears were running freely down his cheeks. He tasted the salt of them on his tongue, mixing with the taste of blood. āPlease, donāt!ā
āIām sorry,ā she said. āābut your family will be fine without you. Mine wonāt survive without me.ā
Maybe she thought it would garner sympathy; maybe it was meant to be a plea for his forgiveness. Maybe she was just telling the truth. It didnāt matter. None of it mattered, because that was when it clicked that if she succeeded, heād never see his family again.Ā
He would never get to hold Mikeyās hand when heās watching the gathering stormclouds and feeling scared, or sing with him to block out the sound of the thunder.Ā
Donnie would never settle down next to him after days of being caught up in his own thoughts, bubbling over with excitement and plans for an invention heāll never have the resources to build but desperate to share his thoughts anyway.Ā
Leo would never beg him to do his makeup, or to help him sew an outfit heād dreamed up, or come to him to complain when things got hard at school.Ā
If he lost here, heād never see them again. That thought scared him more than dying did; more than killing did.Ā
With a strength and a speed he didnāt know he possessed, Raph surged upwards to grab her hand before she could plunge the knife into his chest. She froze, wide eyed with shock, then wincing with pain as he squeezed until her fingers spasmed and the knife went clattering to the concrete ground, lost amongst the vines.Ā
She cried out in pain as her bones creaked and groaned beneath the strength of his grip. Her voice echoed in the air around them, sending a flock of rainbow speckled birds scattering, their iridescent feathers glittering in the pale light.Ā
Raph didnāt waste any more time. He pulled her down, sending her sprawling, before getting to his own feet.Ā
āYou stupid bastard!ā she spat, clutching at her hand, which had been left twisted and broken.Ā
There were people waiting for him at home. Donnie. Leo. Mikey. April. Pops. The names repeated in his mind, over and over and over again. He had to get back to him. They were all that mattered. That was all his world had become.Ā
Raph snarled, and in one smooth motion he grabbed the side of her head as she made to lunge again and slammed it against the ground. She cried out, clutching at his hand, clawing at the skin in a desperate attempt to get him to release her. Despite the long lines of blood, his grip didnāt loosen.Ā
He repeated the motion. Again.Ā
She flailed, screaming, desperate. She grabbed for his face, fingers searching for an eye socket. Her shook his head, snarled when she kept it up, and bit down.Ā Hard.Ā
Again.
The taste of blood filled his mouth. He bit down harder, teeth grinding against bone. He felt the muscles tear away as she tried to jerk away.
Again.Ā
She gurgled, and her blood was in both their mouths now. It dribbled past her broken teeth and split lips, deep red and pearly white glinting in the dim light. Her eyes were brown. Remind him of April. Pretty, except for the way they were bulging and full of burst blood vessels. She gurgled again, twisted and horrible. There was no medical help in the Arena.Ā
Again.Ā
His stomach hurts. He twists his head. Canāt look.Ā WonātĀ look. He swallows.Ā
Again.
Even if he got up and walked away right now, she wouldnāt recover from this. He could leave. He could pretend his hands were still clean.
He doesnāt stop.
Over and over, even after sheād stopped moving.Ā Ā Blood was slowly seeping into the ground, the faint glow of it seeming almost black despite the silvery glow of the fake dawn that filtered between the towering facades of buildings. The splatters of it across his face and hands were already beginning to cool in the chilly air. Raphās breaths came in quick, heaving gasps.Ā
He dropped her body. It crumpled with a small thunk of flesh on concrete. The vines rustled, creeping slowly over her fingertips.Ā
āHey,ā he croaked. He cleared his throat. Tasted the blood again. āIā¦Iām sorry. I didnāt meanā¦I didnātĀ want toāā
He cut himself off, a low moan escaping unbidden from deep in his throat. His eyes burned, and the blades of the hovercraft above beat in time to his thundering pulse.Ā
(Raph cries through his entire games. The tears started when the girl from district 12 stepped off her pedestal a second too early and was blasted sky high. He cried when he watched the bloodbath in the cornucopia, and he cried when he killed his first and second and fifth and eighth opponents. He cried when he laid their bodies gently to rest, hands folded over their bellies and eyes closed, with whatever he could find nearby draped around them like blankets. He cried when he was announced the winner, blood dripping from every inch of him, and he cried when the victorsā crown was placed upon his brow. The stylists liked him in red. It did look good, and the blood-dark shade of his lapels hid the teardrops as they splashed down upon them.)Ā
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Things from the streams if you missed them! (Couldnāt get the second (third? The last part) to work so this is just the first 8 hr and second 2 hour streamsā content)
Leo and Donnie are canonically born on the same day. Leo is older.
It was briefly mentioned that Kendra and Donnie could end up together (tbh the wording wasnāt super clear so idk)
It was also said later on that there were no planned romantic relationships for the turtles, and that the only romantic relationship was gonna be Big Mama and Splinter. The fate of kendratello is unclear for all the kendratello shippers out there
Big Mamaās motivations are
1) Money
2) Lou Jitsu rawr (Iām not kidding about the rawr he actually growled)
Donnie and Raph cut episode </3
Raph feels more protective of Donnie and Donnie has a whole ass inferiority complex with it AUGHHHH THATS SUCH A GOOD DYNAMIC WHAT COULDāVE BEEN
One of the first ideas for the bad future in the movie was Donnie being dead, and his battle shell hung on the wall.
Donnieās death was supposed to be Leoās fault/ have Leo blame himself
We donāt know Juniorās bio father and theres very little chance we ever will. Not even Ron Corcillo knows </3
Yet again they have confirmed 2 other turtles in the mutation tank with the main four - one Big Mamaās assistant, as seen in the farewell comic
For favourite icecream flavour: mikey mixes them all together, Raph rocky road, and Leo likes pistachio. Donnie would probably not eat ice cream or he would create his own āidealā ice cream.
GIANT PUMPKING LOST EPISODE </33333 :[
Gourd almighty - in which Donnie makes a giant pumpkin. Shenanigans ensue. We already know this.
Casey in the bad future was supposed to be dead RIP queen you wouldāve loved the war </3
Ideas of Junior going around the world and exploring to see what itās like were also mentioned. And him calling Casey mum which is just. So cute. And sad. Oh my god.
Also him randomly destroying shit cos he thinks itās a threat lmaooo
Raph died in the bad future saving somebody :[
Raph was leading the resistance. Leo was responsible for Raphās death and took over after he died :[[[[
Donnie died first. His final words to Raph were āI wish it was youā AUGHHHHHHHHHHH THEYRE KILLING ME. IāM DEAD. I AM DECEASED.
The start of the movie changed so much from the OG because they had to shorten it :[
(extended cut when?)
The section in the movie where they go āwe are..ā āthe teenageā¦ā āmutantā¦ā āninjaā¦ā āturtlesā¦ā āif this isnāt the poster shot someoneās getting firedā THAT SECTION. is and I quote āa Kevin section.ā Peak shit. Jay Jay borded the fight between Krang Raph and Leo <3 everyone say Kevin and Jay Jay :]
Concept art of the future timeline with Leoās broken shell and Donnieās battle shell WITH HIS SOFTSHELL STRETCHED OUT UNDERNEATH. WTAF
In the future is Master Michelangelo and Master Leonardo because they are the teenage mutant ninja turtles
The Krang were on the earth long before humans. There was also something about them being buried under the Brooklyn bridge?
Leo being more cocky in the movie was because they wanted to accommodate to new viewers and show clear character development. Also he just got promoted.
Josh Brenner being a huge germaphobe because a Donnie character trait lolll
OCD Donnie canon apparently??
Brandon Mychel Smith ate food in the recording booth LMAO
He was also a hugger which got translated into mikey. Josh Brenner however, was not, which was also translated into Donnie
Donnie made everyoneās tech in the bad future, mikey trained to be a mystic warrior, raph was the leader, Leo was the āHan Soloā and lost his arm. Mikey was āLukeā the roles switched up after Donnie and raph died :[
Leo is a medic canon?
Leo also canonically wasnt in the Prison Dimension that long. Time didnāt work differently in the prison dimension sorry folks
They could absolutely do another movie <3
Raph being afraid of Mrs Cuddles was done to add characterisation and contribute to that gentler feel <3
Another lost episode with stockboy and Albearto where they team up and stockboy is piloting a mech??? Super nonspecific lol
THEY CALL CASSANDRA CASEY JONES ONE AND HER SON CASEY JUNIOR!!!! CASSANDRA JONES IS THE CONFIRMED CASEY OF ROTTMNT <333333
Raph would still have some Krang in him post invasion
The ooze came from the Krang ship that crashed in the hidden city. The Krang are still influencing everythingggg
The turtles would stan BTS. Iād like to formally apologise for joking theyād be miku stans and making a minicomic </3
EPF if the show continued
ALSO CASEY FOLLOW-UP SERIES THATS MY GIRL. SHE WOULD GO AROUBD THE EARTH AND HUNT KRANGGGGG WITH THE TURTLES
Most of the lost episodes could be done in a post movie season 3 :]
Casey and April wouldāve been friends rip Capril Yuri :,]
Hot soup was an organic catchphrase development. They were trying to come up with random catchphrases for the network loll
Raph was chosen as leader bc previous raph iterations wanted to be leader
If they had another season there would be more Big Mama and hidden city stuff
Also a cut episode of them smuggling someone through the hidden city?
SHELDON VELLA APPEARANCE YAHOO
āGot the rise treatment on tales againā ooof
They planned a space arc with the Krang and the shredder armour playing a larger role!!
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Guys I just want to ask anyone whoās seeing the Digital Circus in theaters to try and keep everything spoiler free for those who canāt, and to be respectful in the theaters to the workers and to the others watching. I just want everyone in the fandom to be spoiler free, and happy with their viewing experience. Thx.